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Template:Infobox video game

Hi Ferret--you think we can get rid of the wiklinks in those parameters, for Designer, Developer, etc? I think they're very distracting, and I don't think it's standard for infoboxes. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

@Drmies: They've been there a long long time, I'd suggest bringing it up on the template talk before doing it. Seems hit or miss. Infoboxes for film and television don't, but Books and Company do have some wikilinked labels. -- ferret (talk) 01:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Discord feedback

I just joined Misplaced Pages's official discord. It has been awesome for me so far :)

But I am curious about who coded WikiAuthBot. The reason is because I think it would be beneficial for the bot to use mw:OAuth as it is a bit more secure. That way, if a user is blocked from Misplaced Pages as well, they can effectively be autobanned from the Discord server as well (until the user is no longer blocked). Aasim 09:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Awesome Aasim and IVORK: It's planned to switch to OAUTH but I'm not sure Ivork has had time to work on it. However, we would not use it to autoban as blocked users sometimes in good faith join to learn about why they were blocked and how to avoid it in the future. -- ferret (talk) 11:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I have been on a fair WikiBreak, but I just submitted for access to use mw:OAuth. Will look into setting this up fully over the next week. https://meta.wikimedia.org/Special:OAuthListConsumers/view/4295fcdb3bcdcde0a6770a58ec8910cf — IVORK _Talk 02:10, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Korean companies established in 2007

A tag has been placed on Category:Korean companies established in 2007 requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.

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Disruptive editing by recently blocked used

The user you recently blocked Skyz7888, continued with their disruptive editing as soon as their block ended. Please look into this, this needs a more permanent solution. Gotitbro (talk) 08:13, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Sources

Hi Ferret

how is it possible to add sources from newspapers dating when internet did not exist ? I have the articles paper based only. Also what about sources from a book that is published but not online? What about sources that are written in magazines that are paper based?

Many thanks Suissrael — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suissrael (talk • contribs) 20:27, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Suissrael: Misplaced Pages:Citing sources covers how to do this, including how to cite both books and newspapers. -- ferret (talk) 20:37, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Ferret : Can I use the following as a source ? http://www.hassia-judaica.de/Lebenswege/Deutsch/Katz_Willy/index.html#seite08.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suissrael (talk • contribs) 21:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Reverted credits on Perfect dark

Hi Ferret,

You reverted my edit of the credits which was previously reverted a couple of days ago.

Martin Hollis has no credits of lead designer on perfect dark.

You can check the full credits list here https://www.mobygames.com/game/perfect-dark

And you can also watch the credits list from the final game here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRdXiUwQjiQ

Let me know if you want to take this to email.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perfickdark (talk • contribs) 16:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

The Moby credits literally list Hollis as Project Leader. -- ferret (talk) 16:56, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

The moby credits are not totally correct. Only the ending credits are correct on that page. For the correct version watch an actual video of the game credits as the game was released from this video of the actual ending of the game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWD3wO7Zzbg Perfickdark (talk) 17:10, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Maybe you should read the article, which has indepth coverage and sourcing of Hollis' involvement in Perfect Dark before he left Rare. -- ferret (talk) 18:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I know what his involvement was - I was on the team, and he was not the lead designer. Just because someone has an article where they talk about what they did / did not do on a game they left 1 year into a 2 and half year development doesn't make them a lead designer - and in actual fact his involvement was team lead during that time, not lead designer. And there was probably a reason why he is not in the official credits list you would have thought? Let me know if you want me to mail you proof of my involvement on the team if you care about this being accurate.

Perfickdark (talk) 18:38, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

And if you want a slightly more accurate version of events there is this http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2020/05/feature_perfect_dark_turns_20_-_the_definitive_story_behind_the_n64_hit_that_outclassed_james_bondPerfickdark (talk) 18:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Niwi3: Just as info, in case there's anything in this you aren't already aware of. -- ferret (talk) 19:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. The problem with Perfect Dark is that its end credits don't specify job roles because its development was a very collaborative effort, so it's difficult to say who did what. MobyGames is not a reliable source, per Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Video games/Sources. In any case, after checking the Nintendo Life source again, I can see that it actually says that Chris Tilston became a lead designer by the end of the development, so it should be safe to include him as a lead designer. Now, I think we should not list Hollis as a director, mainly because Mark Edmonds became the project leader when Hollis left. I will fix that now. --Niwi3 (talk) 21:31, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Drafts

Kindly review Gouri G Kishan and Kartikeya Gummakonda (both drafts) and tell me how to improve them. The article about Kartikeya is in review for several months and is still not reviewed yet.

For Gouri's article I have heavily exapnded the article since it at the beginning it was only one line. Thank you

One question: if the article in a deletion discussion is heavily expanded does the deletion discussion still apply? (I think the process is moving the page to a draft for review) --TamilMirchi

I'm not an AfC member and am not sure why you approached me for this. I do not have time to perform a proper review today. Yes, deletion discussions still apply regardless of expansion. Deletions are based on whether notability guidelines can be met, not the size or state of the article. It is possible that during expansion, you found new sources, which would help with notability and perhaps cause the deletion discussion to result in a keep. -- ferret (talk) 18:18, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Ouya: Reverted 2 edits by Cweiske (talk): Inappropriate ELs, no reliable sourcing (TW)

The first edit was the fix for a broken archive link. You reverted it without looking at it. I specifically split the two changes so that they are independent and can be reverted. Now the external link is broken again. Yay!

Also, why are the links inappropriate? They are the definite sources of the two community servers.

List of Ouya software: Inappropriate EL, spam

The first sentence on the page says "This is a partial list of software for the Ouya gaming console", and I add a link to the *complete* list of OUYA games. Why do you consider this spam? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cweiske (talk • contribs) 18:54, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Because you linked to your own website? And it's an unofficial site used to download archived games that the user may or may not have purchased. We don't link to such sites. -- ferret (talk) 21:58, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

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Crowkid51

Hi Ferret, I am sorry that I disrupt edits from other Misplaced Pages pages as I am new here and I am trying to learn. I will try my best next time to not disrupt edits and I am Sorry Ferret. Crowkid555 (talk) 00:40, 31 May 2020 (UTC)