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Freemasonry and Rosicrucianism

For what it's worth, the best material I have found on the cross-fertilisation of the two organisations is in David Stevenson's The Origins of Freemasonry, Scotland's Century 1590-1710. A bit vague. What have you found?. Fiddlersmouth (talk) 00:47, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello, @Fiddlersmouth This links; Click me & Click me too direct to certain materials which may be useful to our discussion. Please do discuss with me what you feel about the sources.Celestina007 (talk) 16:24, 15 June 2017 (UTC).

The first article seems to have a problem with facts. Ashmole was initiated in Warrington, the London meeting was much later (I won't bore you with the other stuff, but the facts don't fit the picture). Manly Hall is a known nutter, which is probably unfair. He made a shedload of money out of this rubbish. Meanwhile, we can trace the real development of freemasonry from the Old Charges, the Schaw Statutes, and the actual minutes of Scottish lodges in the 17th century. The telling bit from the first reference is referencing Kings in Coverdale's bible. 2 Chronicles 4 in the same edition actually mentions "Hiram Abif", which he got from Luther's 1535 translation of Huram 'Abi in 2 Chronicles 2 & 4. The hard evidence doesn't have Rosicrucians, although Stevenson mentions them as an influence. He is much stronger on Hermeticists, where it is easier to see a connection. HTH Fiddlersmouth (talk) 01:31, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

@Fiddlersmouth:

Lmao, you said Manly Hall is a known nutter. Umm okay, i think you have a point, the sources at hand may not be proof enough to warrant a Rosicrucian section in the Freemasonry article. i agree.Celestina007 (talk) 20:48, 16 June 2017 (UTC).

A barnstar for you

		The Teamwork Barnstar
		This is for overcoming our earlier differences for the purpose of creating a better encyclopedia. Kudos ma'am. HandsomeBoy (talk) 10:22, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@HandsomeBoy If this isnt incentive enough to continue building the perfect encylopedia despite whatever then i definetely do not know what is. Thank you so much for this, this has given me a reason to smile despite the pain. Thank you Darreg. This Means a lot to me + its my first ever. i do appreciate this very much. Celestina007 (talk) 22:25, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

"Smiles". HandsomeBoy (talk) 21:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Celestina007,
Just checking in. Hope all is well on your end? It's good to see you editing again.  Versace1608  22:12, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@Versace1608 Thanks for asking. I really do appreciate your concern. You are like the all seeing eyes of God nothing passes by without your knowledge. I’m alright though. I won’t lie, Misplaced Pages is a lot like basketball or chemistry, leave it for a month & it would leave you for a year. I have become quite rusty as regards wiki editing. But it is a good thing yourself, Darreg & Mahveotm are holding your own very well. It’s a shame Oluwa2chainz isn’t around anymore. All the same thanks. Cheers Celestina007 (talk)00:48,3-11-2019 (UTC)

Lmao at "You are like the all seeeing eyes of God nothing passes by without your knowledge." Can't stop laughing. I'm glad you are good. I'm sure you will get your groove back once you become active again.  Versace1608  00:08, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Yeah hopefully so. I’m sure when I’m active again I’d re-learn everything. It’s quite funny because i used to know so much rules & policies of this Misplaced Pages environmvet it got to a point some other editor called me out for wiki-lawyering. But it’s all good though. More grease to your elbow Versace.Celestina007 (talk) 01:24,3-11-2019(UTC)

Artists sort

Hello! just a heads up that the artists AfD sort is not for musical artists. See the definition at the top of the sort page. Thank you. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 10:29, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Hey thanks for that ThatMontrealIP I presume you probably made an error in this edit - you removed the WP:DELREASON. If the problem is it was included in a wrong sort list then I’d simply remove it from there, if it is something else please do leave a message for me explaining your rationale because I don’t think I have ever seen a WP:DELREASON removed from the AFD discussion. Without a reason for deletion how would our co-editors make sense of an AFD without a delete reason? Anyways I have removed “artist related discussion sort list” & reverted the edit. Please do reach out to me on this. Cheers. Celestina007 (talk) 17:49, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that was entirely my mistake, and quite a bad one it was! Slip of the mouse, and I did not notice it until you properly reverted it. Thank you for fixing the artists sort item.ThatMontrealIP (talk) 18:04, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

it’s all good ThatMontrealIP do enjoy your weekend. It’s a Friday night. Cheers. Celestina007 (talk) 23:28 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Dear celestina007 Please don’t delete the article of Zaw Myint Oo. I wrote and based on all reliable source from Myanmar Website.He is an artist of Myanmar Singer/Composer and also journalist.I can guarantee all data sources are reliable and authentic.So, please review all refer data and facts the article of Zaw Myint Oo.

You've got mail

I have received your mail & replied you but I don’t think you have seen it. there isn’t any real reason to be worried. Knowing a person is notable & proving their notability are different things. Even I have had difficulties in proving notability of Nigerians who are clearly notable. As for the article you were editing on David Tobiloba Ajayi I honestly couldn’t find any real evidence of him being notable. Celestina007 (talk) 09:59, 27 November 2019 (UTC)

Biography Barnstar

		The Biography Barnstar
		Thanks for your new articles! — Sagotreespirit () 12:37, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

Sagotreespirit thank you so much. I really do appreciate this. Celestina007 (talk) 13:46, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

How Can I Complete The 10 Suggested Edits

Hi Celestina007, you send me a message earlier about Misplaced Pages. I'm quite new here and I'm finding it a little difficult to complete my first ten suggested edits. Please I really need some advice. Vicky Styles 1 (talk) 12:15, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Vicky Styles 1, I received your message earlier but it was wrongly placed. I’ve corrected all that now. As for your question I’d say you have made more than ten edits. From what I can see 12 edits in all. Celestina007 (talk) 14:18, 03 December 2019 (UTC)

Request For Undeleting Michael Nwokolo

Hi Celestia,

I just saw your comment on Micheal Nwokolo and i understand your concerns. I just wanted to point out to you that we all understand the Nigerian armed forces ecosystem. The article is not gossipy and i am trying to ensure we digital footprints to some of our best hands and i'm currently working on more of these kind of personas in the Entertainment, Military and Spiritual industry. Micheal Nwokolo was extensively discussed on Twitter and although some few claim his certificates might not be entirely credible, i have been working on this on my drafts for a while now and i've seen that he, a retired superintendent of police have majority of some of these certificates and his worthy of a mention here.

Although, i have replied you on the talk page and will continue the conversation while highlighting more sources to help prove my works, i want you to be more objective and understand.Saxfreak 14:05, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Saxfreak01, I have not deleted any article. I merely created a deletion discussion page for it because subject of your article is non notable & hasn’t been discussed in reliable sources. Most of your sources on the page aren’t reliable. Before creating an article you should see the WP:GNG guideline. Furthermore what does this comment you made above mean?? “ Micheal Nwokolo was extensively discussed on Twitter ” Twitter is not a Reliable source and it’s not used in this project to prove notability or substantiate notability claims.Celestina007 (talk) 15:24, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of My Article for deletion

Hello

Thanks for your feedback on this, i have provided with the intial information i have about this director whom i followed his movie or other works. please help me or suggest me on what else makes it better page about him — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ananddonepudi (talk • contribs) 16:05, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello Ananddonepudi, Although I myself couldn’t find any reliable sources discussing subject of your article with in-depth, if you can find any and include in the article I’d be more than happy to withdraw the nomination.Celestina007 (talk) 17:03, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello Celestina007

will definitely provide further more , i found some content on wiki but didnt recall those pages again. please give me sometime if you dont mind  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ananddonepudi (talk • contribs) 06:57, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

people with articles in other encyclopedias

It's usually a good idea for subjects from other language regions where there are links in the English WP article to that language's wikipedia, to check that link, at least in the English translation. DGG ( talk ) 19:04, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

DGG You are correct about that.Celestina007 (talk) 19:14, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of My Articles for deletion Karl Reger Martin Reger

Hello Celestina007 Thank you for your feedback. I never thought of publishing an article about them, until I saw some other articles on other Regers Reger. Considering the brevity of these other articles I though I could give it a try. After reading the Conflict of interest page I still do not believe there is any. Yes both articles are about relatives of mine, however, I do not see any conflict of interest, since I am referrring to them in a historical context. The information provided is difficult to source, since it happened in the 1930. The papers are no longer available and the physics books Karl Reger published have long been out of print, hence I did not even mention them. Essentially, you could consider me a primary source, since I have spoken to them myself when they were still alive. I just added the '{{connected contributor}}', will that help? Not sure what else I can do. Koreger (talk) 02:50, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Koreger, It Isn’t advisable to edit or create a page for your relatives as you claimed above & furthermore as you say above if the articles are “difficult to source because it occurred in the 1930’s” then the article should not be on Mainspace as per WP:CRYSTALBALL we need sources to substantiate any claims made on the articles.Celestina007 (talk) 11:21, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Your good works are noted

Hello, I noticed that you're really working tirelessly to keep Misplaced Pages free from Spam, nice one. For an Administrator to easily access all your tagging works, you'll need to set-up Twinkle to always log all your PROD and CSD tags automatically in your own personal PROD log and CSD log respectively. To set it up, head to Twinkle Preferences, scroll down and mark both Keep a log in userspace of all pages you tag for PROD and Keep a log in userspace of all CSD nominations and click Save changes. That's all. Keep on the good work, Misplaced Pages is really proud of you. NNADIGOODLUCK (Talk|Contribs) 16:37, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Nnadigoodluck, Oh man thanks for the kind words, it is really appreciated I’ve also noticed your enviable precocious talents and how you have silently in a gnomish manner assisted me so far Cheers.Celestina007 (talk) 17:40, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

You've got mail

You deleted my page Sam Zuga which was still being written. I was asked by Misplaced Pages to talk to you about this deletion because it said you are the deletion administrator.

Misplaced Pages's guidelines are are an encyclopedia in themselves. They are so lengthy and many times complex. I tried everything I can to go through them before attempting to write my article.

Again, I read that things done in the sandbox are still safe from deletion or any form of interference from Misplaced Pages since they have not been made public. I was also informed in one of your guidelines that so long as I keep making edits to my articles, they are safe from deletion, till I feel my article is ready to get published.

I'm still working on the article and I've not completed it, or submitted it for review, or published it. So I'm actually shocked why it should be deleted.

Hoping to hear from you soon. Charles

Charles Okorobo, First! I’m no administrator & if you were going to post the message here then sending me a private mail wasn’t necessary. The article was not in your sandbox don’t make untrue comments please. it was on Mainspace where I saw it on the new pages feed and requested a G11 speedy deletion for it because it was the most blatant promotional article I had ever seen in my three years of being an editor in this collaborative project. Furthermore if you are related to the subject of your article in any way it isn’t advisable to create an article for them because a WP:COI that would obstruct a WP:NPOV would be established. Celestina007 (talk) 18:46, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Banbouk Music should not be deleted

It has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. This should not be deleted. This is satisfying WP:GNG & WP:BIO @Celestina007: Sourav tiwary (talk) 11:29, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Sourav tiwary, what have I done to you? Why are you bombarding/spamming my talk page? Well in any case if or not that article would be deleted is not up to me but up to the community. See WP:GNG before creating articles in the future. Misplaced Pages is not a WP:PROMO site for people/persons who want more recognition for themselves/careers.Celestina007 (talk) 12:00, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Celestina007

Thank you for creating Frederick Leonard (Nigerian actor).

User:Lapablo, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Keep up the good work.

To reply, leave a comment here and prepend it with {{Re|Lapablo}}. And, don't forget to sign your reply with ~~~~ .

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Lapablo (talk) 19:56, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Lapablo thank you so much. You give me strength to continue even when I’m tired. Keep up the good work also. Celestina007 (talk) 20:02, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

	Happy Holidays
	Hi Celestina007, Thanks for your all contributions and help to this wonderful encyclopaedia, have a great and enjoyable holiday!  Versace1608  12:34, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Happy holidays to you too as well Versace 🎉🎉. Furthermore thank you for your guidiance so far since i began editing in 2016 up until now and also for your tireless contributions towards building a better encyclopedia. Cheers 🍾🍾Celestina007 (talk) 12:43, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Feedback

Hi there and thanks for your email. I'm happy to provide feedback about your work around new page patrolling. I hope you'll understand and be OK with me replying here rather than via email. First you've been quite busy with deletion. Your speedy deletion looks good. Your AfDs probably look good too. However, I would say we're still a couple weeks short of the time I'd expect to see before someone reapplies (at minimum) and a lot of AfDs, especially ones you've nominated which count extra in my book, are still open. Your edit summaries are better though a whole string of "Article Creation" at Destiny_Etiko is still a little short of what I'd hope to see on the whole from our goal. However, that wouldn't really stop me from assigning the permission. In looking at your interactions with new editors I'm still concerned it's a bit on the gruff side. It's very important at NPP not to bite new editors. If you reapplied today I probably wouldn't assign just because it's a little too soon and I still have communication concerns. However that could all change in another 2 or 3 weeks as you've taken the feedback well and done some really good work. I hope that's helpful. Feel free to reply with any questions you might have. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:30, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Barkeep49 Oh my, thanks! I appreciate your feedback. This means a lot to me. There are no questions for now as everything you have said is very straight forward and quite easy to grasp, thanks once again.Celestina007 (talk) 09:55, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Request For Undeleting amin mahmoodi

Hi. Amin_Mahmoodi is an Iranian actor and assistant director. All of his information is in Persian and has been published on sites in Persian.

Mohammadcmpir please always sign after making a comment (for easy identification) the article hasn’t been deleted but it is currently in an AFD.Celestina007 (talk) 09:45, 29 December 2019 (UTC)

Please don't delete Manjiri Yashwant page

Manjiri Yashwantis a popular marathi film actress. Marathi is one of the languages in India, most of the news articles covering her are in local languages that is marathi. She played a significant role in marathi movie Babo, which was one of the super hits in marathi speaking people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rohishaw1999 (talk • contribs) 15:26, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Rohishaw1999 dear colleague I do not possess sovereign command over what gets deleted or what doesn’t get deleted only the community (our co-editors) can decide that at the AFD I opened pertaining to the subject of your article. See WP:GNG & WP:BASIC before creating any article(s) in the future. Celestina007 (talk) 16:16, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Dear editor, local newspapers don't have websites because they can't afford. The subject is a popular actress in marathi cinema. The language marathi is spoken by only in some parts of state Maharastra in India. Please suggest what I need to do. I want to save this article .As per citations are concerned , I can not provide as local newspapers don't have websites. Rohishaw1999 (talk) 06:43, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Rohishaw1999 you can also cite newspapers. Celestina007 (talk) 13:18, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Local newspapers don't own websites. Simply because they cannot afford. They are publishing only printed newspapers. How can such references be given on wiki? Rohishaw1999 (talk) 13:24, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Actress's IMDb entry has been added. Rohishaw1999 (talk) 14:06, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft Checking

Hello, please check draft of my page Draft:Abhishek Kumar Ambar. Swapnil Kaustubh (talk) 09:46, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Swapnil Kaustubh i’d say per formatting & general spelling corrections I’ve done what I can, as I can’t sometimes understand what you may be trying to imply in some sentences in the article. Generally I’d advice you to submit it through an AFC and not move it to mainspace directly as the article is quite promotional and may qualify for a CSD under G11 (unambiguous promotional articles). I’ve tried to clean it up a bit by removing several peacock terms and sentences you used. Lastly, and unfortunately my understanding of the Hindi language is very poor infact non-existent so I cant make sense of the references provided & my google translator isn’t proving helpful today. Do what I’ve advised plus what Nnadigoodluck advised. Celestina007 (talk) 10:49, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice. Last time I made this Article and I used the reliable links as a reference. But article was deleted.Refrences contains reliable material in hindi language but admin did not understand and tagged article in speedy deletation. My all hard work get in the dustbin.

Swapnil Kaustubh (talk) 12:06, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Swapnil Kaustubh haha I haven’t had a good laugh on here in a while. Okay I’m not being insensitive but technically no one’s hard work in this community “gets in the dustbin” you can contact the administrator that deleted your page I’m too busy to actually check who, but contacting he/she is pivotal & your hard work(article) may be moved back to your draft but seeing as you have already created a new one under same title an AFC submission is my best advice for you. I can’t tell for sure if the name of your article has been “salted” If it has it means that title has been protected due to one or more editors creating the same article for a clearly non notable subject. Also generally it isn’t a good idea to create an article for your friend, colleague or even yourself and also if you are to receive a reward or have already received the reward financially(as per part payment) or otherwise in turn to create this article you’re advised to cease and desist from such. Celestina007 (talk) 14:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Bashir mehtaab

Hello, is Bashir Mehtaab fullfil the criteria of wikipedia. Swapnil Kaustubh (talk) 06:54, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Swapnil Kaustubh I’ve gone through the page & i’m not sure I know what your relationship is with the editor or if you have any ill feelings with the editor or subject of his article as such I’d recuse myself from being used as a weapon. Although I should say that other editors have raised concerns that the creator of the page has an obvious WP:COI with several of his articles/subject of his articles. Now, from your own understanding of WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO & WP:POET do you think it fulfills the criteria? If your answer is no then feel free to nominate the article for deletion. To do some good work here it is important to make use of “Twinkle” which can be enabled in your own account. See WP:AFDHOWTO to guide you throughout the process. Furthermore if your thought process is if “Article A created by a different editor is on Misplaced Pages then certainly this Article B which I created on a related subject matter which is almost same as theirs should be on Misplaced Pages also” then that’s a faulty argument I can’t give a blanket statement on. Celestina007 (talk) 17:39, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

NPP?

You should consider applying for New Page Patrol permissions. I think you'd be a great contributor to the process. Thanks for your hard work on WP. buidhe 03:28, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Buidhe haha thanks for the kind words. I would, in the not too distant future i’m proceeding with caution & abiding to the advice proffered to me by our senior colleague Barkeep49. Celestina007 (talk) 11:40, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

Quick question

Hi there Celestina007, I got your message about my article, and I wanted to say thank you for helping me out--I am very new to Misplaced Pages (this was my first article), so I don't really understand how any of this works yet. As such, this probably makes me sound like something of a greenhorn, but I just wanted to ask how to do citations properly here. I put my sources in MLA8 format in the Notes section, but I know that that's the wrong way to do it; how do I add the footnote citations? The internet is not giving me much in the way of explanations. Sorry to bother you, and thanks again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virgilius158 (talk • contribs) 01:32, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Virgilius158 I deal with a whole lot of articles so please could you give me the name of the article in question here? Or a link to it? Celestina007 (talk) 01:37, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

It is titled ‘Parker E. Calkin.’ Thanks for your help. Virgilius158 (talk) 02:38, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Virgilius158 sorry I’m just getting back to you. Citing isn’t all that difficult. I think you should read WP:CITE it should guide you. If you’ve got any other questions I’m always here.Celestina007 (talk) 17:17, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Sunkanmi12

Hello Celestine007, I published an article titled Muslim News Nigeria and I was notified that it's highly promotional. I started working on that part and the next notification I got was that you've deleted it. Please kindly help undo the delete so that I can work on it again. Below are some reference you might want to see.

www.aa.com.tr/en/turkey/nigerian-daily-names-erdogan-muslim-personality-of-2019/1699261

opr.news/s1bb98507200111en_ng

www.middleeastmonitor.com/20200111-erdogan-named-global-muslim-personality-of-the-year-by-nigeria/amp/

iwitness.com.ng/nigerian-daily-names-turkeys-erdogan-as-global-personality-of-the-year-for-second-time/ — Preceding ] comment added by Sunkanmi12 (talk • contribs) 12:14, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Sunkanmi12, I am going ahead to send you a welcome message with relevant policies and guidelines you may need to study before creating any other articles in the future.Celestina007 (talk) 12:51, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

This article has been blacklisted and I can't create any other article with that title Sunkanmi12 (talk) 13:20, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello once again Sunkanmi12, I don’t know if or not it has been protected/salted & not “blacklisted” but if it has been protected, it’s probably for a good reason too! The most common & obvious reason being that it is an article that has been created & deleted more than once & is still being created over & again after repeated deletions. Oh & for the sake of clarity, I did not delete your article. Only sysops can perform such actions.Celestina007 (talk) 13:30, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Olga Kozakova and Olga Kazakova

Hello colleague. You have two Olga Kazakova --Dgeise (talk) 20:50, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Dgeise you don’t have two, Olga Kazakova & Olga Kozakova aren’t the same spelling. Although confusing, they aren’t the same spelling now are they? If you have further questions I’d be more than willing to answer.Celestina007 (talk) 20:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

These are different people. But their names in one letter are similar. If you think so correctly, I do not mind. -Dgeise (talk) 21:00, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Dgeise if you have for example an already existing article titled David James (lets say hypothetically speaking he is an American wrestler) & you intend to create another David James (perharps let’s say this one is an English occultist) since David James already exits as an American wrestler, when creating another David James, who is an English occultist you then differentiate by titling this one David James (English occultist) but lets say hypothetically speaking that this fictional David James who is an English occultist has his name spelled as David Jams of which Misplaced Pages has no article which such title, saying David Jams (English occultist) is not necessary. You can use the “About” function in the article (which I’d go ahead to do for you sometime in the future) But if this is too ambiguous for you to comprehend let me know so I’d re-explain.Celestina007 (talk) 21:14, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done Dgeise Check out both articles now.Celestina007 (talk) 21:35, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

F5pillar revert

The revert isn't any problem to me, but I want to let you understand that Summy Smart that request for it deletion, it shouldn't be done that way, Reasons are:

• You can(ref improve it)
• you can (draft it).

That would be OK. Sorry if you're thinking I'm against your discission or suggestion for the Deletion, and for the Wiki policies, I have already and known that, Thanks. (F5pillar (talk) 14:03, 18 January 2020 (UTC))

F5pillar, LoL what in the name of sweet Jesus Christ are you on about? The said article has long been deleted & you editing an already concluded AFD is very disruptive. So I ask again what are you really on about?Celestina007 (talk) 14:09, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

OK fine, that's what I suggested you could have done since beginning, but since the deletion request have already been done, who am I to question what you decided in that Summy Smart. Anyway, the has already been deleted there's no need of discussion about the the page. (F5pillar (talk) 14:16, 18 January 2020 (UTC))

Hello F5pillar, This comment you made above really disturbs me “who am I to question what you decided”, there isn’t any sovereign custodian of knowledge or any sovereign grand master here as this is a collaborative project & in this community you have every right to query certain actions & voice your own opinions. Commenting in a closed AFD is not proper & it is not a norm in this community. Having said that, in the future feel free to ask me any questions if you are trying to perform an action you are unsure if or not may alter the conventional current flow of this collaborative project even in the slightest manner & I’d be more than willing to assist.Celestina007 (talk) 15:43, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

OK, sorry if its disturb you, is just that you've been in this Organization before me so you're just like master to me. Thats why I said that. And I did not quickly notice that theAFD is closed. (F5pillar (talk) 19:13, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

F5pillar I’m not a master to you & no one in this community including administrators is a master to anyone & in this collaborative project we all are fellow colleagues and are all equal.Celestina007 (talk) 19:40, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

You're to me bcuz the way you interact. (F5pillar (talk) 19:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Re: deletion nomination for Razak Lawal and moving to draftspace of Alfred Akawe Tokula

Thank you for your work on Misplaced Pages. I recently created the article Razak Lawal, solving all the issues it was said to be having when I created it previously, but was speedily deleted. However, you have recently nominated it for deletion with the WP:GNG tag. I have read the general notability guidelines again and Razak Lawal seems to me to pass the test as a young Nigerian businessman. The sources I used for the article were from highly respected publications in Nigeria like The Sun (Nigeria), Punch Nigeria, Vanguard (Nigeria), New Telegraph and Encomium Magazine; and they covered the topic directly and in detail. You may have mistakenly nominated it for deletion. Please find time to review the sources again for your kind reconsideration and help, in improving it. I would also like to know if it is appropriate for me as the creator of the page to post a comment on the deletion page or add more sources to the article. You also moved Alfred Akawe Tokula to draftspace for a similar reason and needing more citations. However, I created the article as a stub to improve the article for the Tor Tiv stool of the Tiv people which are notable in Nigeria. How many more sources may I need to add before submitting it for review? I would have messaged you privately here, but I don't know how that is done. I will need your guidance and assistance here as I intend to spend more time on Misplaced Pages this year; writing as many new articles as time will permit me. Please oblige me. Thank you. Bemmax (talk) 16:10, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant to write this on my talkpage. I think that is more appropriate. I will post it there. Thank you. Bemmax (talk) 16:23, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Bemmax Are you trolling me or something? the article in question was speedy deleted because it was a blatant promotional one & now you have re-created the same article faster than Flash would have & still didn’t do it properly by addressing why it was speedy deleted. Now asides the Promotional tone of the article, none of the sources you provided really discussed subject of our discussion, let alone with in-depth significant coverage as required in WP:GNG. Rather they mention his messy break up with his wife. It seems like the RS that mentions our subject of discussion in passing only do so in regards to his wife and their divorce as she is arguably a notable Nigerian actress which renders the RS useless, trivial & non imperative in this regard. As for Alfred Akawe Tokula I moved it to your draftspace because in this article I see potential notability & moved it so you could add at least 3 solid RS before you submit via AFC or move it straight to Mainspace yourself, whichever one you prefer. This potential notability is not observed in the Razak Lawal article hence I had to carry out my duty by taking it to an AFD. Please Review WP:GNG before creating articles in the future. I’m available to answer any further questions from you. Celestina007 (talk) 15:32, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Keep Adedayo Ojo

Thanks for your diligence on this platform. You're truly a great editor and motivation to me as will learn from your editing skills. However, kindly keep the page as is being worked on to address all the issues raised. Once again thanks for the work that you do here. Gideens (talk) 15:51, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Akgideens No need to worry. It appeared as though it could have been CSD’ed under G4 but an administrator has confirmed it is significantly different from the original one. So for now it is safe but generally I can see another editor has placed a notability tag on it so perharps it may be taken to an AFD where it’s fate shall be decided but no I won’t be the one to AFD it but in the mean time you could try & include pivotal RS that shows true evidence of your article’s subject being notable. Cheers.Celestina007 (talk) 17:10, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Hi dear Celestina, Thank you for having interest in my article for Godspower Oparaugo. I do hope that your professionalism will graciously refine my article. Authoritty (talk) 21:19, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Authoritty, I appreciate the kind gesture, I really do, but I’d be lying to you if I told you that article is a decent one because in actuality it just isn’t & invariably as with most promo articles, the subject of such articles aren’t usually notable & do not scale general notability guidelines so my advice to you is to find reliable sources (which from my own research do not exist) & include in the article. If there are certain guidelines/policies you want to study but do not know where or how to look for them do ensure to let me know & i’d be more than willing to point you to the appropriate direction.Celestina007 (talk) 00:13, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you so much. I am creating the article based on the authorship Godspower Oparaugo has, as something to make him notable, including his foundership of the Initiative for African Citizens (IAC). Authoritty (talk) 08:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Message from 41.215.169.49

I went through and think the article Oduma Essan is not a promotion or in any way against wiki policies...Please move it ! A Wiseman hears one word but understands two!! ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.215.169.49 (talk) 13:23, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

41.215.169.49, A potion from your statement above reads A Wiseman hears one word but understands two!! weird but that used to be my favorite proverb, in other words “Once spoken & twice heard is the wisdom of the wise” But oh well, unfortunately No! capital NO! I can’t remove an AFD tag as it has to run for seven days in which it’s fate would be decided. per general notability guidelines he is not notable as he does not seem to satisfy either WP:GNG, WP:NACTOR & WP:MUSICBIO Furthermore what you said can be interpreted as a threat but I’m acting in good faith here & I believe you do not know the implication of such statements on this collaborative project. Finally using multiple accounts & anonymous IP addresses to remove the AFD template on the article does not save it from being deleted of which I’m quite sure it is going to be. Lastly please if you are to receive money (Nigerian Naira) from Oduma Essan or have already received the money from Oduma Essan, ensure to disclose(tell us) this. Cheers.Celestina007 (talk) 13:43, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

WikiCrush

Hi 6ft+ Amazon,

Keep up the rare works!

Danidamiobi (talk) 15:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Danidamiobi awnnn thanks for the kind words.Celestina007 (talk) 15:06, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Danidamiobi (talk) 15:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Danidamiobi, REPLIED!

pls save this article Agnel Roman - pls tell what to do

Hey, buddy my article Agnel Roman is deleted, pls help me to publish this article successfully.

Annki777 (talk) 16:12, 2729January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Annki777, although I can’t view the article now or remember why it was deleted initially, I believe it was speedy deleted under G11 (I’m not so sure now) perhaps next time try & create an article with a neutral tone & provide reliable sources substantiating their notability. Furthermore don’t accept any reward from anybody be it financially or otherwise for editing & also if you are too close to the subject of your article, maybe your boss, family member, family friend, office colleague, best friend, & even yourself as doing so would always obstruct a neutral point of view do you have any further question or questions? Celestina007 (talk) 21:18, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

help me to send Draft:Agnel Roman for review and publish

Hello Celestina007, it was deleted for G4, but it was mistake, now the article is in Draft:Agnel Roman. pls check the article and help me to publish the same. Annki777 (talk) 16:06, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@Annki777, if it was deleted under a G4 then it cannot be a mistake. It means you re-created an article that was previously deleted via an AFD. An the said article is very much identical to the one deleted via the AFD. I cannot help you publish it because I can’t view the old article & can’t say for sure if the one in your draftspace is any different from the ones deleted before. Just so you know repeatedly creating an article that keeps getting deleted may lead to salting, something I’m sure nobody wants. Again I’d say this, don’t create articles for your friends, familly members, your spouse, boss, basically anyone you are close to. literally speaking there are other topics you may want to attend to.Celestina007 (talk) 11:38, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007, the re submission was totally different from the past article and that matter is clear now. it is in draft mode right now.pls check the same and help if you can, also i am not creating article for friends, family members, spouse, boss, or anyone close to me. thanks Annki777 (talk) 12:46, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Annki777, alright let me see what I can do about it. I see, now, there’s an AFC affixed to it so you don’t need anybody’s help to publish your article, just submit it for review as indicated. Celestina007 (talk) 11:48, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007, Hey, Celestina i have submitted the article for review after adding some new sources. pls check. thanks Annki777 (talk) 10:36, 04 February 2020 (UTC)

List of Occultists

I hope I am doing this correctly Celestina007.

While I was fixing the link to the wrong "St Cyprian", the associated description did not match the Misplaced Pages article nor the one citation link that would resolve for me. So I assumed "Sorcerer supreme of Antioch..." and "patron saint of dark magic" were vandalisations, and cleared them up. My apologies if I got that wrong. I defer to experience.

regards, LittleValleyGreen — Preceding unsigned comment added by LittleValleyGreen (talk • contribs) 05:39, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

LittleValleyGreen, First off, thanks for taking interest in Occult related articles because it’s not many of us out here these days & having heard your explanation your actions are very much justified but next time checking meticulously to see if the information provided in the article is consistent with the content provided in the source isn’t a bad idea. Celestina007 (talk) 13:36, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Help is needed

hello @celestina007 pls I need you to give me some guidelines in regards to Misplaced Pages content creation and editing. am looking forward to seeing your reply Ecurrywap (talk) 07:37, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

Ecurrywap, Hello, where & how do you require assistance? Celestina007 (talk) 14:34, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail

Now, it's time I declare some things so that I can be helped:

1. This is my first ever article. And I'm not writing it because I know the person, or been influenced by the person. Truthfully, I don't know this person, have not been influenced by this person, until a friend contracted me to write for this person.

2. I write the article in my Sandbox. But when it's time to save it, the only option I'm given is "PUBLISH PAGE". I don't see any option that tells me to save "AS DRAFT". So I choose the "PUBLISH PAGE" option and believe that it's saving as a page inside my Sandbox. For you guys to keep deleting the page is therefore suggesting to my mind that perhaps the page is not being saved and published into my Sandbox--but is actually being published Globally?

I need you to help me be clear on this, and also show me how not to publish an unpublished work, but rather save it as a Draft in my Sandbox.

3. The person I'm writing about didn't go to University. He stopped at Secondary School(what the Americans call High School). This suggests that he has a limited understanding of PROFILE BUILDING and NOTABILITY RESUME. But in Benue State of Nigeria where he comes from, he believes that he has done some things to make history remember him. Thus he asked to be put on Misplaced Pages(irrespective of his limited understanding of Notability).

My question is this---What exactly is the subtle definition of Notability in the Misplaced Pages Mind? If this man that I'm writing about has actually done some things that have helped people in Benue State of Nigeria, should this not qualify as someone to be remembered by the lives he touched? Does notability means that he's contributions should have Global and National impact? And small Community impacts don't matter and don't count as contributions?

I really need you to help me understand all the issues I've raised, and will be glad by the education I'm waiting to receive from you.

Sincere Regards Charles Charles Okorobo (talk) 11:01, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

@Charles Okorobo, I’m not sure I understand why you keep sending me private mails & re-posting it verbatim on my talk page but nonetheless I promise I’d have time later in the day to reply you in detail as per the questions you asked.Celestina007 (talk) 02:01, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

• Comment — This is going to be a very long explanation so please open your eyes wide & read @Charles Okorobo, I promised to answer your questions & now i’d do that to the best of my ability. I would not bother you with all the legalese by posting numerous policies and guidelines but I’d rather explain them to you in their truest forms. Notability in this community is produced from a simple formula which is “in-depth significant coverage in reliable secondary sources independent of the subject” that is basically what determines notability of a subject. Now having said that, even if an article is about a notable entity(of which yours isn’t I’m sorry to say) if it is blatantly promotional like yours it can still be speedy deleted under G11.(Which your draft article Draft:Sam Zuga is going to be if you don’t tone down all the promotional wordings you used throughout the article) If you don’t understand what & what constitutes promo or advert wordings you may wish to contact some ace copy editors like Versace1608 & appeal to them to assist you in this regard & if you don’t even know what a promo article is in the first place I’d say the best example would be any article that resembles yours. But in any case see WP:PROMO, WP:ADVERT, WP:NPOV, WP:FANPOV. Now another major concern I have with this article is your obvious WP:COI with the subject of your article which you unknowingly affirmed/revealed when you asked this questions above. Per our modus operandi; You may not write articles for your friends, family, place of work, your church or your spiritual leader/guru/sadhaguru/pastor/Bishop/G.O of your church & whatever titles this prosperity preachers are calling themselves these days but you get the gist right? Now what is a COI? It basically means in one way or another yourself & the subject of your article are affiliated directly or indirectly. The problem with a WP:COI is it impairs the neutrality / neutral point of view of an article. Furthermore you exhibit a vehement vested interest in this particular article when literally there are infinite things to write about which hints at undisclosed paid editing which is a capital no no in this collaborative project(Misplaced Pages). So if you have received any reward for this article to be published say financially, I’d advice you not to touch/spend a dime & return it to him faster than Flash from Dc comics would. Forgive my humor, I’m goofy like that. So Charles you got anymore questions? I’m happy to answer but ensure you contact Versace1608 to help with the overrall formatting of your article & ask him for help in removing blatant promotional statements in that article & if you really want to help build a better encyclopedia you should contact HandsomeBoy he is our president & a good tutor who organizes classes for Nigerians interested in becoming an asset to the encyclopedia.Celestina007 (talk) 22:16, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007, thanks for tagging me in this thread. I actually read Charles Okorobo's message a few days ago but didn't respond because I'm afraid of being labeled a talk page stalker (this is my horrible attempt at being sarcastic). @Charles Okorobo: Moving forward, please do not agree to create articles for people who are trying to have a Misplaced Pages presence; you can be labeled a WP:COI editor if you do so. Based on your note above, the person you're talking about does philanthropic outreach in his community. While I commend him for his humanitarian efforts, people are not considered notable simply because they help out in their communities. In response to one of your questions, notability is not synonymous with one's contributions having a global impact. People in small communities can be considered notable if they are discussed in reliable sources independent of them. Misplaced Pages prefers online sources but if there are offline sources that show this person passing WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO, then a separate BLP article would be warranted. Next time, if you want to request for an article to be created, follow the steps outlined here. Articles you write yourself can be submitted to AFC for review; if the article meets Misplaced Pages's notability criteria, someone from AFC will approve the article and move it to mainspace. Once you become an auto-confirmed user, you have the option to create articles by placing double brackets (]) around the article's title; since you're new, I wouldn't recommend this option. Like Celestina007 said, feel free to leave me a message on my talk page anytime.  Versace1608  23:11, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for pinging me to this discussion. You and Versace explained everything so well, and there is nothing for to add. I will advise Charles Okorobo to be focused on understanding Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines without any contraction from 3rd parties. That is usually a bad sign with newbies. HandsomeBoy (talk) 15:38, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Re: Deletion of Mikey See

@Brutacular, Hello, sorry I’m just replying you. If you think somewhere out there that there are enough reliable sources to prove the notability of your article’s subject then begin to add them to the article & endeavor not to leave anything to chance because if you aren’t able to provide reliable sources it is unlikely my rationale would change as the subject of your article in my opinion (as of now) does not meet general notability guidelines or satisfy any criterion listed in WP:SINGER. Celestina007 (talk) 14:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Advertisement tag

Hello Celestina! You recently tagged a page I created, Johnny Dang, as an advert. I thought I did a good job at keeping it neutral - I believe the external links are appropriate and the content doesn't strike me as promotional. Do you have any suggestions as to how I can improve the article and avoid this in the future? Mbdfar (talk) 23:48, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Mbdfar, see WP:NPOV. But regardless I’d help you make the necessary copyedits later in the day. Celestina007 (talk) 08:25, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done @Mbdfar, Check your article now & you’d see that I have trimmed it to an encyclopedic standard & all promo words have been removed. Celestina007 (talk) 11:24, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate the help! That certainly clears things up for me - I can see where I went wrong. Thanks! Mbdfar (talk) 18:34, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Mbdfar, I’m glad I could be of assistance. Celestina007 (talk) 19:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Łukasz Szumowski

May I know what exactly is undersourced? There are more sources than there are sentences T Magierowski (talk) 11:07, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

T Magierowski, funny you should ask seeing as the answer to your question is infact in the question you asked. I believe the word under sourced is quite self explanatory. Celestina007 (talk) 11:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Care to elaborate as to what part of the article exactly needs more sources? Each sentence has a source, I have added 2 more to the draft yet both say the same thing as the 1 that was already in there. T Magierowski (talk) 11:17, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

T Magierowski, if you have added two more sources then that’s okay as it is no longer what I’d classify as “under-sourced” However submitting your article via the AFC process isn’t a bad idea but it is not madandatory! You may as well move it back to Main-space yourself as that is your prerogative Celestina007 (talk) 11:27, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I have moved it to the mainspace, and added another source along the way, do I delete the "Articles for creation process" tag? T Magierowski (talk) 11:43, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

T Magierowski, yeah, feel free to. Celestina007 (talk) 11:58, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Message from ZawZawMdy

Dear celestina007 Please don’t delete the article of Zaw Myint Oo. I wrote and based on all reliable source from Myanmar Website.He is an artist of Myanmar Singer/Composer and also journalist.I can guarantee all data sources are reliable and authentic.So, please review all refer data and facts the article of Zaw Myint Oo.

Hello @ZawZawMdy, I definitely cannot delete your page as conventionally only sysops perform such actions. The deletion or retention of your page would be decided in an AFD. Anyways that aside you really need to come clean and tell the truth only then can I really help you clarify certain things & direct you appropriately. Please answer the following; are you writing about yourself? did the subject of your article contact you to create this page for them? Were you paid to create this article? are you related to the subject of your article in any capacity? Furthermore I’m having a notability problem here, have you by any chance seen WP:GNG before? If not, you may want to study it before creating articles in future. Have you also seen these; WP:AUTO, WP:!HERE, WP:COI & WP:PAID ? If not you may need to see those also. Lest I forget you should always sign your comments in order not to cause confusion. See WP:SIGN. Celestina007 (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Dear Celestina 007!

About this Article, I can sign for that.you are misunderstanding with me and Suject of Article is same. Actually, I am Zaw Zaw staying at Mandalay city ‘s freelance journalist. I can’t understand how ‘s think article name and author name.I can guarantee all reliable facts and data. Zaw Zaw ] (talk) 20:59, 21 April 2020 (UTC)]

ZawZawMdy, okay so apparently you can’t sign nor indent properly but that’s not a major issue anyway, you could always learn that in a minute or less. Moving forward, so both of your names (yours & his own) just happens to bare an uncanny resemblance & that’s just supposed to be a mere coincidence right? that’s pretty convenient if you ask me. Celestina007 (talk) 21:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Celestina007 I'd say it's an even bigger coincidence that they both share the same profession as journalists and that ZawZawMdy also happens to have professional stock photo of the subject on hand. Best, GPL93 (talk) 21:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

GPL93, Ha! good catch! you know what they say; if it quacks like one it most likely is one. @ZawZawMdy care to explain that? Celestina007 (talk) 21:37, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Dear Celestina007 and GPL93,

        I think you ‘re big misunderstanding. I am currently  working at Irrawaddy Media ‘s Journalist Zaw Zaw. You can see my name about Mandalay local News from Irrawaddy News channel.I wrote first Article Subject Zaw Myint Oo Who was journalist during the 2013 SEA Games Time for the first time.Last 5days ago, I heard Rock and Myanmar Culture Mixed Music from FM channel,and then I find the musician from social media platform finally I saw him. I can’t understand how you were thought just only one person.So, come and check Irrawaddy Media Social Platform. You will see my name and my photo.please check that.

Jio Platforms Limited

Hello, I have noticed that you have moved my page to drafts while i was making it. Even though i have tagged it as 'Under Construction'. Well, i have edited the draft section now. Can you please review it? Thank you. Lakshmisreekanth (talk) 23:25, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Lakshmisreekanth, how can you publish a blank page & put an “under construction” tag on it? Like it was literally blank & you affixed an under construction tag on it, who does that? Furthermore, conventionally in this community it is good practice to do all your work in the draftspace or sandbox before moving it to mainspace. I’m not an AFC reviewer so I literally cannot review your article. But you however can submit your article via the WP:AFC process & an AFC reviewer would review the article for you. Celestina007 (talk) 23:33, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I was told to make articles like this by someone here. I'm very sorry, I don't know about that. I thought we can create an article under it. Turns out i was wrong. I do know about sandbox but i am not very experienced here. So i don't know about everything. Anyway thank you for your advice. It was indeed helpful. Lakshmisreekanth (talk) 23:39, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Lakshmisreekanth, Please do tell me right here & now which editor told you so because they obviously lied to you. You however are not mandated to submit your article via an WP:AFC process you yourself can move it back to Mainspace if you have significantly worked on the article & have at least three references in the article. Celestina007 (talk) 23:47, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

AFD reply

Sorry about your glasses Celestina007. Hope you get a new one soon :-)  Versace1608  00:38, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@Versace1608, haha thanks a lot for caring. Funny thing really, I should be getting a new one later in the day. Celestina007 (talk) 00:44, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

That's cool. Are you currently in Lagos? Hope you're staying safe wherever you are.  Versace1608  00:47, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Versace1608, yes! I’m in Lagos, I try my best to stay safe but staying indoors 24/7 even for a recluse like myself is proving nigh-impossible. Aren’t you in Lagos as well? Celestina007 (talk) 02:09, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

No. I live in Maryland, USA. I used to live in Naija between 2002 and 2004.  Versace1608  03:06, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Versace1608, whaaattttt??????? Couldn’t have guessed that correctly. I always imagined you lived somewhere in Lagos Island. It’s good you relocated when you did. Nigeria is currently in a state of anarchy even before the Covid-19 pandemic “reached Nigeria” we had already been living in utter lawlessness but it’s worse now particularly in Lagos, Ogun & Northern Nigeria. For Lagos & Ogun state the reason is; the government ordered a lockdown in both states without providing relief material to residents of both states so armed robbery has now become very much “normal” as it occurs daily now, like literally everyday in Ogun state somebody somewhere is robbing someone with a firearm. As for Lagos state news of armed robbery cases have increased exponentially although not as terrible as Ogun state but I feel with the government proposing an additional two weeks at the end of this current lockdown on the 27th of April, Lagos state might just be as dangerous as Ogun is right now. Only very few us privileged to reside in gated communities feel somewhat safe in Lagos. As for nothern Nigeria, well, same old same old Boko Haram terrorist bombings & kidnappings as usual, nothing new there. It’s dangerous out here in Nigeria it’s a good thing you’re far from this mess. But I’m worried about the mortality rate due to the Coronavirus in America. Please do stay safe & indoors always except in dire situations. Celestina007 (talk) 04:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

It's really sad to hear all of these things still happening in Nigeria. I don't know when corrupt leaders are going to get their act together. It's because of them people are looting and stealing. It's really sad to see the most populous country in Africa still experience these kinds of situations in this day and age. I feel Nigeria needs some kind of revolution before things are going to turn around. In my view, more young people need to be in leadership positions; a country with a young population should not be governed by old men. Nigerians need to put their religious differences aside and become more unified. Tribalism and sexism should also be weakened. Only Nigerian youth can save Nigeria. If people stop selling their votes for bags of rice every election season, these politicians will not always believe they are above the law. They need to start being held accountable for their actions.  Versace1608  09:46, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Versace1608, come look at this; it appears the editor from Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/The Anix (2nd nomination) who was quite upset because I implied they were sockpuppets of someone else were actually involved in Sockpuppetry.Celestina007 (talk) 20:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm not suprised. I'm glad they were blocked.  Versace1608  20:34, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Versace1608, the war against Sockpuppetry, COI editing & undisclosed paid editing even here in Nigeria is a very powerful one & it’s a good thing few honest editors like yourself are still out here to combat such.Celestina007 (talk) 21:23, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Discussion on deletion of Anoop Krishnan page

Hi Celestina007, as per your comment under Articles of Deletion entry for the page Anoop Krishnan, I had added more citations, added relevant images and corrected some content as well. Anoop is a notable actor in the household of Kerala television viewers and is quite popular all over Kerala. I have made the change from actor to television actor to substantiate this. You also mentioned that the award he received is not a notable one. I dont agree with that. Asianet is the #1 channel in Kerala and it belongs to Star Network. The television series Anoop is being part of is rated as the best and highest viewed television show among all the television channels in the state. Hence, when he receives an award for the best on-screen pair in a television award ceremony, its notable and relevant. Hence I request you to re-evaluate your findings and release the deletion lock. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakeshrnath (talk • contribs) 13:57, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Ajay Kapur

Hello Celestina007. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Ajay Kapur, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Far more sources than when it was deleted last time. Needs to go to AfD if you still think it should be deleted. . Thank you. GedUK  09:31, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Ged UK, thanks for the courtesy of giving me a feedback. I placed a G4 because it appeared the article had been deleted via an AFD process but as I am unable to see the previous page I couldn’t tell if or not they resembled each other & went on to carry out my duty regardless but thanks for the clarification I’d revisit the page later in the day & access it generally. Celestina007 (talk) 09:38, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Yeah that's the slight flaw in the system! It's similar to last time, but beefed up a bit. Whether that's enough for AfD I can't say, but it's changed enough to not meet the speedy criterion anymore. GedUK  19:38, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Undelete

Celestina007, An article has been nominated Edmon imseeh To delete. This article is for a real and famous personality and is the first fashion designer in the Palestine region, He participated in international festivals and festivals to choose Miss Arab. I hope to undo the deletion, I will develop the article appropriately. But I hope to undo the deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osps7 (talk • contribs) 22:47, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Celestina007 , I hope to remove the delete template — Preceding unsigned comment added by Osps7 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Osps7, no you may not do that. See WP:AFD. Celestina007 (talk) 19:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

My Recent Article

i added three sources. KoreanDragon (talk) 23:34, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

KoreanDragon, if you have added three sources then you are free to move it back to mainspace. Biographical articles are treated specially & if one is on mainspace without at least one source it most likely would be moved back to draftspce.Celestina007 (talk) 23:39, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Invite to WikiGap Nigeria contest 2020

Hello Celestina007,

Kudos on all the great works you do here and hope you are keeping safe. I want to invite you to participate in the 2 week long WikiGap Online Misplaced Pages contest that started 29 April to 13 May.

This is a contest primarily conceived to bridge the gender gap on Misplaced Pages by creating articles of Nigerian women due to the gender bias that exists; I am contacting you primarily also because when we organize contest like this, we realized that we have many of inexperienced Wikipedians participating while the experienced wikipedians like you are left out or disenfranchised.

We have amazing prices available to be won and the contest is organized as a step beyond our physical training meetup here in Nigeria in partnership with the Swedish Embassy in Nigeria, African Women in the Media, Wiki Women in Red, Wiki in Africa and Wikimedia Sverige

Kindly check the project landing page for more details here

Best regards, Kaizenify (talk) 10:32, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Mongia Taboubi

Hi i added citation for Draft:Mongia Taboubi. coud you verify this draft thanks --MagieRouge (talk) 20:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Jeanie Lambe

Hello Celestina007. I feel Jeanie Lambe needs recognition certainly as a jazz singer as she has recorded a number of LPs, having also worked with Danny Moss as a duet. She was a prolific jazz singer on the UK circuit in the 1960s and 1970s and has also appeared on the BBC's 'Sounds of Jazz' programme broadcast nationally on BBC Radio 1 (Sunday evenings) in the early 1970s which was introduced by Peter Clayton. I accept that she was not a prolific actress as such, merely playing herself. I think perhaps deletion may be a little over the top and have removed the 'actress' information. I suspect the 'actress' citations may have invoked this for deletion. Just wondered what your thoughts were?

WikiProject India 10,000 Challenge

Hello Celestina007. You are invited to join the new WikiProject India 10,000 Challenge, a challenge which aims to see 10,000 improvements, destubs, and creations for Indian articles, covering every state of India and topic. Articles on all related topics are welcome. We need numbers to make this work and do something extraordinary for India on Misplaced Pages! Every 100 articles submitted will be copied into the wider Asian challenge. Sign up on the page if interested and start contributing! If you know someone who might be interested, please invite them by: {{subst:WikiProject India/The 10,000 Challenge Invite|~~~~}} Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:47, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

DRN Volunteer Roll Call - Action Required

There has been no roll call since November 2017 so with that said, it is time to clean up the volunteer list. Please go to the Roll Call list and follow the instructions. If no response is received by May 30, 2020, it will be assumed that you no longer wish to participate and you will be removed as a DRN volunteer. Thank you for your attention to this and for helping Wikipedians in their dispute processes.
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Madagascar Navy

Hi Celestina007,

I hope you are staying safe. I modified the Draft:Madagascar Navy article taking into consideration your remarks.

Kindly note that If you wish you can publish it.

With my best Regards,

Georges —Preceding undated comment added 21:16, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Georges Aoun, Infact i am keeping safe & hope you are too. When I draftified the article (because it had no sources) an option to submit the article via the AFC process was auto generated but apparently you deleted it. Now that you have included sources to the article, if you want to you may by your own self move the article back to mainspace or submit it via the article for creation process whichever one you prefer. Celestina007 (talk) 01:50, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Tanaza Draft Page - Paul Smith 1970

Good morning Celestina007, here is Paul Smith 1970. I'm writing to you regards your last comments on the page that I've written dedicated to Tanaza. I would contest your comment because in the creation of the page I've tried to be more as factual a basis as possible. What it's written on the page is simply what Tanaza is and what is its history, no promotional intent. I have used some reference articles and websites of high-level (such as Facebook Engineering Blog, Sole 24 ore, Yahoo Finance, and also two patents by Google Patents approved by US Government).

It's not a promotional intent to say that a company has won important awards or create partnerships in its sector. It's simply the story. About the chapter of philanthropy, there are multiple examples of companies on Misplaced Pages that talk about their "good deeds". Philanthropy is not a promotional intent for the business itself, but also an opportunity to use the name of the company as a medium to touch public opinion on a certain important topic for society.

This is my explanation to defend what I've written. Please, leave a comment to let me understand what is wrong in this style of writing because honestly, the commercial scope is not present in this article.

If you can, help also with a list of metadata that can help to have not a deletion.

I'm glad to understand and learn these shades between my style of writing and your perception of reading because I've written following all the Misplaced Pages Rules.

Paul Smith 1970, “I've written following all the Misplaced Pages Rules” Ehh not quite. Seeing as you just joined 22 hours ago i’d go ahead to leave a list of policies in your talk page you may need to read before creating any new articles also please always sign your comments see WP:SIGN. Celestina007 (talk) 11:18, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Celestina007 Can you explain to me what I have to delete to be "less promotional"? The exact part in which I'm too promotional. I'll delete them immediately. It could be a good occasion for me to understand better for a future update of the article or the creation of new articles, written in perfect way. :Paul Smith 1970

@Paul Smith 1970, in my candid opinion id suggest you allow this to rest & focus on other things. Appearing as a single purpose account for promotional editing only can & would get you blocked. Per the question you asked on what part of your article was promotional in nature I’d say the entirety of the article was promotional see WP:NPOV. Celestina007 (talk) 12:02, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail

Tolu' A Akinyemi Nomination

Dear celestine007 please the article Tolu' A Akinyemi is not to be confused with Tolu Akinyemi even though coincidentally both individuals shared the same country of origin, country of residence and profession, they are in fact two different professionals who have accomplished and excelled in the writing industry, please find the cited links to Amazon, press releases and interviews to further confirm its authenticity. Tolu' A Akinyemi is born Toluwalope Adeola Akinyemi, lives in Newcastle upon tyne, and he has seven books to his name. While Tolu Akinyemi who is mostly known as poetolu lives in London and has published just three books. Further investigation on YouTube, Goodreads and Amazon will further prove the article worthy. Please kindly undo the nomination as soon as all sources have been verified. Thank you and best regards Olatunde Brain (talk) 13:40, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Brain7days, I know, and I made that clear at the WP:DELREASON of the AFD. Tolu' A Akinyemi is the non notable one which is why I nominated it for deletion. I’m not confused thank you. Besides why are you sending me a private mail? Also feel free to explain to me how you have an up close photograph of him as your “own work” if you have a WP:COI with the subject of the article you are advised not to edit the article directly let alone create one without declaring the COI. Celestina007 (talk) 14:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I clearly understand you reason why I created this article, I am a writer and poet myself and I know these men for their contribution in the industry. I realised that Tolu' A Akinyemi has been mistook for Tolu Akinyemi on many grounds which has deprived him of all the recognition he deserves. I have read their books, attended their book launch. Which is why I take it upon myself to create this article. Tolu' A Akinyemi is contributing immensely in the industry, his books have been discussed on virtually all the newspaper and magazine across Nigeria. But unfortunately when people talk about the author they have the picture of his fellow countrymen in their head and that has really dented his nobility. Olatunde Brain (talk) 14:20, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

@Brain7days, That doesn’t seem to be the case here & like I said, I conducted a before search & discovered both poets have similar names, one seemed to be somewhat notable(barely meeting GNG) & one clearly was not, the non notable individual is the one whose article is at the AFD right now, like I already said I am not confused. Furthermore you cleverly avoided the question on how you got the image in the article as your “own work” but I’d assume per your comments above which implies you have attended their supposed “Book Launch” explains that & Lastly per WP:RS, Amazon & Youtube are not not necessarily reliable sources.Celestina007 (talk) 14:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Pardon my persistence but I feel guilty that being a wiki editor and a member of the industry I am in the best position to distinguish between these two young men. I've got authorised pictures of Tolu Akinyemi too. However I just cited a few articles and links from the British Library, University of Hertfordshire Library, Amazon Author Central and Google Books to further strengthen the authenticity of this article. I know what it takes to get one book published how much more seven books trust me this subject is an icon in his league. Olatunde Brain (talk) 16:55, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Brain7days, By saying he is an icon in his league I assume you mean his popular in the literary world but on Misplaced Pages and in the immortal words of Versace1608, popularity is not synonymous with notability. Furthermore your fixation on explaining to me what I already told you I understood right from the jump is getting quite annoying tbh.Celestina007 (talk) 19:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

This article meets the general notability guideline it doesn't deserve to be deleted! Except you want to point out to me that the sources are unverifiable Olatunde Brain (talk) 20:16, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Brain7days, you can not verify information from unreliable sources.Celestina007 (talk) 20:19, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

If the British Library isn't reliable, and the nation newspaper, the guardian newspaper, Amazon,Google books, Goodreads are unreliable source. I might as well need to atteattend your institution of "reliable sources. Olatunde Brain (talk) 20:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Brain7days, Amazon, Goodreads & co aren’t reliable sources & no you don’t need to attend my “institution of reliable sources” infact you don’t need to attend any institution at all, all you need do is become conversant with policies which you clearly have no knowledge on before attempting to create any other articles, I also noticed you created an article about yourself which has been rightfully taken to an AFD by a different editor. For starters you may need to learn how to indent your comments properly then go do some reading of our policies & guidelines before badgering my talk page. You feel me? Now off you go! Celestina007 (talk) 20:31, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Celestina007 you claimed Amazon and co are not reliable sources here you are justifying this and this and this whereas you claimed this this this are not reliable? and then you employed user:versace1608 to back your claims? i see why you listed him among your influencers isn't that meatpuppetry?. Please let's close this discussion because it is over, you simply could not say 'i don't know him' i am not surprise because you even claimed the notable subject barely meets GNG, it is obvious that you probably haven't encounter them or their works. Let this discussion end. Make your decision, your comments are more personal as against WP: APR Close the discussion and let it end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brain7days (talk • contribs) 17:46, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Brain7days: I don't understand why you are citing sources relating to Bobrisky. This discussion is about Akinyemi; why are bringing up Bobrisky? What exactly do you mean by Celestina007 "employed" me to back up her claims? Do you have any evidence to support this statement and your outrageous meat puppetry claim? For your info, I participate in AFDs regularly and always visit Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Nigeria. Just because Celestina007 and I vote similarly doesn't mean we are colluding; this just means we both understand Misplaced Pages's notability notability requirements. Here is my philosophy man: If I come across an article I believe doesn't meet our notability criteria, I do not hesitate to nominate it for deletion. Not every article I nominate for deletion actually gets deleted and if this article doesn't end up getting deleted, I'm fine with the outcome. In regards to the sources you listed here, you need to add them to the article.  Versace1608  18:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Brain7days, sigh, the only reason I bother with you (replying you) is because you remind me of me back when I began editing in 2016, so filled with fire but grossly lacking competency & knowledge of policies and guidelines if it weren’t for that I’d have taken the aspersion of calling me a meatpuppet as a personal attack & taken you to an ANI & request you be blocked effective immediately. Now a source is reliable when they have a reputation for fact checking & possess editorial oversight & you’d see that all three possess the aforementioned qualities. You can talk smack at me all you like but never you involve @Versace1608 in your negative remarks, words can’t even describe his positive works towards building the perfect encyclopedia. You really do owe him an apology. I see potential in you & we need this kind of fire in relatively new Nigerian editors but you have to channel that “fire” into learning basic policies and guidelines first else you risk getting in trouble with an editor other than myself & risk getting yourself blocked. Don’t forget to also always assume good faith & please start by apologizing to Versace1608. Celestina007 (talk) 18:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

:@versace1608 I'm not the type that disrespect pioneers but i find it hard to believe that the article will be deleted on such grounds. I AM SORRY also to :@celestina007 Apologies.

Brain7days, I hope Versace1608 does accept your apology. In-fact he adopts new editors, so if you are here to actually build a better encyclopedia, you may ask him to “adopt you” adopting basically means he becomes your guardian, teaches you, aids you, offers you advice and directs you appropriately until you reach the level of an experienced editor & can stand “on your own”. Say for example if you become his adoptee & you intend to create an article x he may tell you if or not it’s a good idea hence saving you this whole ordeal you have been through. P.S he is the most advanced Nigerian copy-editor. Celestina007 (talk) 19:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Celestina007 honestly one really do need a guardian angel on here. I've been looking for who will adopt me before, that God :@versace1608 is here oo but he has to adopt me outside wiki too o.. Lol, I'm sorry for the initial edit warring no harms intended please

@celestina007 is appears @versace1608 did not adopt me because he did not accept my apologies. Olatunde Brain (talk) 22:02, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Brain7days, not necessarily, @Versace1608, isn’t one to hold grudges plus he is a very busy editor & most importantly if you want him to adopt you, you have to go to his talk page & formally request that he adopts you, I merely suggested it & that doesn’t translate to him auto accepting it because I suggested it. So I like I said go to his talk page & formally request to be adopted. Celestina007 (talk) 22:15, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@celestina007 Noted!, Thank you. Help withdraw this nomination now. Adoption request sent! Olatunde Brain (talk) 22:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

ZayBinSteppin

Yo why did you remove my sons article TTV Octxpes (talk) 19:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

TTV Octxpes, please expatiate further I don’t understand what you are implying. As in I drafitfied an article titled “My sons” or your son in real life created an article that I nominated for deletion/moved to draft? Celestina007 (talk) 20:24, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Well I’m just tryna get his name up like I can’t do that for my Son and when I say Son that doesn’t mean he is my son Actually he is my friends but we call each other Our Son cuz that’s New York Slang TTV Octxpes (talk) 16:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Regardless of whether it is you, your son, or your friend is unimportant. You cannot add non-notable persons to Misplaced Pages; Misplaced Pages is not a self-promotion platform. This is why your content is being removed. Until you/your son/your friend become notable in their own right, i.e receive widespread coverage in media for example, they cannot be added. Please take a read of Advertising guidelines, the Notability guidelines, and guidelines on neutrality. Madbrad200 (talk) 16:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Bobrisky

Please the information of his/her secondary school education is false. Bobrisky did not attend kings college lagos Abokebe (talk) 09:40, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello @Abokebe, most reliable sources give Kings College as her secondary school & this could easily be verified. Keeping in mind that this collaborative project is about verifiability & not truth. However I’d like to hear what you have to say, so if she didn’t attend KC what secondary school did she attend then? Celestina007 (talk) 09:53, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Reliable sources like blogs? The only reliable source is the schoo itself. I am an alumni of the school and i have checked from school records that this fellow did not attend the school at any point in time. I regard wikipedia as a reliable source of information and before now i always thought that info gotten from here is indeed verified from reliabe source and not just heresay or blog gossip.

As for where he schooled, i have no interest or any idea of that.

If you can please share the reliabe sources you mentioned it will be great Abokebe (talk) 10:00, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Abokebe, do this, this & this look like blogs to you? Or didn’t you learn how to tell a reliable source from a blog? Apparently you didn’t! whilst you’re at it feel free to learn how to WP:INDENT properly before leaving asinine comments on my talk page. Anymore questions?Celestina007 (talk) 10:15, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Now you are being very rude by calling my comments asinine. But i'm not surprised because of the quality of your information. Those sites to cited are gossip news outlets not so different from blogs. If you say he attended kings college then what year? What graduating set? You dont have answers to this because they do not exist. Instead of copying and pasting from gossip news, feel free to do some intelligent work and verify this claim from the kings college old boys association.

@Abokebe, I cant keep going back and forth with you, You just posted a phone number & asked me to contact them which I had to delete because it is very much inappropriate to post such on this collaborative project but of course you wouldn’t know that! You lot who watch how to edit Misplaced Pages on YouTube & jump to editing instead of actually taking time to study our policies and guidelines are constituting a great nuisance. You just referred to The Sun (Nigeria) & The Nation Online which are amongst the few Nigerian Reliable sources as “not so different from gossip blogs” if those aren’t asinine comments, what are they? In any case the information that she attended Kings College would remain there for all eternity as verifiable information from reliable sources say so & also cease and desist from calling Bobrisky a “He” , you use “He” for males, Bobrisky is a 27 year old trans-woman & as such you should respect that & her choice of pronouns & forthwith use “she” instead. Didn’t KC teach you Pronouns? Celestina007 (talk) 11:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Your snide remarks tell a lot about your personality. You are a small minded person, you lack knowledge but yet so full of yourself. Very typical of someone with your character. Total waste of my time. Abokebe (talk) 11:48, 21 May 2020 (UTC) This is really not my style. Apologies for the earlier remarks. I have no issues with you or with the personality involved.I just wanted to point out a piece of the article that wasnt factual. But you have maintained that since the source were the websites you mentioned then fine. I guess if i have any alternative reliable source of a contradictory statement then i have to provide it to help the wiki community right?Again, my apologies for my remarks, i only reacted to your snide comments. I have nothing against you. Abokebe (talk) 11:59, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Abokebe, Apology accepted, I encounter harsh & derogatory comments every now & again, they are inevitable. if you have found contradictory information pertaining to the name of her secondary school in reliable sources, then of course the community would be very much interested & would be eager to have a look at the source & it’s information. Celestina007 (talk) 12:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Abokebe: Please refrained from making insults. This is a collaborative space and civility is promoted here. Calling someone "small minded" and saying they are full of themselves can get you blocked from editing. Contrary to what you think, the two newspaper sources mentioned above are not unreliable. Please familiarize yourself with WP:RS. You need to provide a reliable source to support the info you are challenging. We are not obligated to believe you simply because you attended the school.  Versace1608  18:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: DJ Bally

Hello Celestina007. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of DJ Bally, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional. Thank you. creffett (talk) 12:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Black Chamber

Did you even bother to read my answer before you acted. You are acting like you own Misplaced Pages.--Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 14:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Gaarmyvet, okay this made me laugh for a second. When you draftify an article a message is auto generated to the editor who created the article, so at the time you read the message your article had already been moved to draftspace. You replying that auto generated message meant or could have done nothing at that point & I wouldn’t even have seen the message had I not manually check your edit history to confirm what exactly your grievance was. In any case I moved it to draftspace because it had potential to be better than it currently was, however, when you beef it up a bit you can always move it back to main-space. Are we happy now? Celestina007 (talk) 15:04, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

No, "we" are not happy. Why don't you go through Misplaced Pages and draftify every other stub befofre you draftify my five-minute-old effort?--Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 15:08, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Gaarmyvet, look don’t make me look like the bad “guy” here. You do all your work in your draftspace or sandbox & when the article is ready for mainspace you then move it to mainspace. It wouldn’t have been any business of mine if your article was in draftspace or in your sandbox but when I see it on mainspace it becomes my business even if it is 5 seconds old in so far as it is not mainspace worthy, I would do what I would do. A stub on mainspace isn’t necessarily a problem, however a stub with no sources none whatsoever is a problem.Celestina007 (talk) 15:18, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm not trying to make you the bad guy. I'm trying to understand why, when there are more than 180,000 it was so important to draftify mine today.--Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 18:33, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Gaarmyvet, lmao that’s because I accidentally came across it. Why are you acting like I deleted the page when you know you can add at least one reliable source & move it back to Mainspace? Or do you need my help in doing that? Celestina007 (talk) 18:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

I got it.--Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 19:03, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Gaarmyvet, Aha! So I guess we are happy now. If you have further questions I’m always a ping away.Celestina007 (talk) 19:07, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Dakona Machoga

but it is half in english is it'nt? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Film-Crasher20 (talk • contribs) 15:40, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Film-Crasher20, no! It isn’t! you better turn all of that to English as soon as possible.Celestina007 (talk) 15:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

did you read bototm of it?

Film-Crasher20, I did & that cant even constitute 3% English use let alone “half” using the word “half” is a stretch.Celestina007 (talk) 15:48, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

If Ananya can read it, you can read it. Don't be a guda habena in Manajyala and Oriya! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Film-Crasher20 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Film-Crasher20, can’t say I understand what you just told me not to be, but I bet it’s something derogatory. Anyways some other fine editor has nominated your article for a speedy deletion.Celestina007 (talk) 15:55, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

User Block

Hi @Celestina007, in lieu of the ongoing AfD at Lil5ive, Oyasoyas has continued to remove the AfD notice from the article after their fourth warning. Do you think this is block-worthy? xRENEGADEx 23:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@xRENEGADEx, If they persist after several warnings then yes. I’m sure they aren’t familiar with policy so I’d go ahead to issue out a few warnings & if they continue i’d be forced to take appropriate tough actions. Oh! It appears @Mz7 already blocked them. Celestina007 (talk) 23:29, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007, well I guess that is resolved then... xRENEGADEx 23:39, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@xRENEGADEx, it is indeed their block came following this SPI I filed:Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Peter OKH. Celestina007 (talk) 23:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Paul Vicknair you deleted

Source https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1343759/ Rhkyley5 (talk) 15:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

@Rhkyley5, no I did not delete it. Check here >>> Draft:Paul Vicknair. I merely moved it back to draftspace so you could add more sources to the article before submitting it via the WP:AFC process or moving it back to mainspace.Celestina007 (talk) 15:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Empower Work

Please don't delete the page. Do you have recommendations on how to make it less promotional? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfoakbay (talk • contribs) 18:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Sfoakbay, I don't. Celestina007 (talk) 22:16, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I've used Crisis Text Line and Save the Children as templates. Don't think it differs too much from those. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sfoakbay (talk • contribs) 04:34, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Alex Okoroji

Hello Celestina007. You recently tagged a page I edited, Alex Okoroji, it was tagged for speedy deletion citing CSD G11. And I declined the speedy deletion. I also noticed you who put up a notice requesting permanent protection from creation under the name. Why? This article has been created only once since 2016. Just once.

If a subject is notable and the content could plausibly be replaced with text written from a neutral point of view, this is preferable to deletion. Note: Any article that describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion. So, I'm confused as to why the sudden decision to delete, instead of fixing the issues with it. 

She clearly passes WP:ENTERTAINER, WP:NACTOR, WP:AUTHOR, WP:CREATIVE

• She has had significant roles in multiple films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.
• Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to the field of entertainment in Nigeria.
• She has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series).
• She also has significant coverage. "Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material.

You left me a message on my talk page about using Misplaced Pages for Promotional Purposes. Truth is I'm still learning the ropes here. I thought I did a good job at keeping my edits neutral - and the content doesn't strike me as promotional.

Do you have any suggestions as to how I can improve the article and avoid this in the future, as I hope to contribute to more varied articles? Joykodiri (talk) 08:40, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Joykodiri, Although the article has now been speedy deleted. I should address a few things, the first is; you as a non-admin cannot “decline” a CSD tag, you can only contest it. Second is, seeing as “you are still learning the ropes” you may want to look at a couple of our fundamental policies and guidelines before attempting to create any new articles let alone re-create the Alex Okoroji article. I am going ahead to leave a couple of those policies on your talk page. Finally, if I have seemed tough on you, that wasn’t my intention. If you do have any further questions I’m always a ping away. Celestina007 (talk) 19:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Question

Hi, why did you revert my message to . If you two have some sort of dispute I am not really interested in getting involved. Other than that, take care.BabbaQ (talk) 20:50, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

@BabbaQ, hello. my device currently suffered a major malfunction yesterday & the day before as it got submerged in liquid. My apologies, that was totally due to the device malfunction. Furthermore @ToBeFree, thank you for the ping. This malfunction has totally ruined my week & occured at the worst time, seeing as the malfunction coincidentally occurred almost immediately my NPP examination commenced. Celestina007 (talk) 13:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Omg, I am so sorry. Too touchy. Hope you forgive me as well. Take care.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

I should have just asked you what happened before doing anything else. I feel a bit bad now :)BabbaQ (talk) 13:27, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

BabbaQ, It’s okay dear colleague. All is well. Celestina007 (talk) 13:31, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

UCC Holding marked for deletion

Hi there. You've marked the page I created today for UCC Holding for deletion due to it being 'unambiguously promotional'. I have contested this as I disagree with your assessment - it is all externally cited/sourced and I took care to present the information in a neutral informative tone. But I would be interested to know what led you to this judgement? It is my first article so eager to learn / see it from your point of view. Abjectcat (talk) 14:24, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

@Abjectcat, if it’s your first article then see WP:YFA, WP:CORP, WP:NPOV, WP:N, WP:PROMO & WP:GNG. Celestina007 (talk) 14:29, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I had already read many of these before starting on the article but have re-read. I would be interested to know what specific elements you found to be unambiguously promotional and grounds for deletion under G11, given it states "any article that describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion" Abjectcat (talk) 12:51, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

Abjectcat, I’ve gone ahead to remove the CSD tag but nonetheless endeavor to make copyedits on the article. Celestina007 (talk) 21:21, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Contesting speedy deletion of Ismaila Isa Funtua

Hi, I created the Ismaila Isa Funtua article and just noticed you deleted the article due to alleged copyright infringements. This is incorrect, because I actually edited the article several times. I've checked my contributions and can't quite find when exactly I created the article (sometime in March/April I presume). It seems to me that the two online blogs you referenced actually copied from the article. It'd be great if you can assist. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zerzuran (talk • contribs) 02:02, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Zerzuran, I can’t, as I can’t make sense of anything you have said so far. Plus it appears the page has now been deleted. Celestina007 (talk) 02:47, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

An Indian actor writer draft

Hi, Celestina007 as per information at WP:AFC/RBS, I would like to draw your attention to Draft:Anuj Tikku which you might be interested to review. Thank you. ~ Amkgp ✉ 05:52, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Amkgp, fine. I’d look into it. It doesn’t seem like the editor has submitted it for review though. Okay! I’ve started reviewing it. Celestina007 (talk) 05:55, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Tessa9624 about updating Kenneth Okolie page

Hello, You write me about updating Kenneth Okolie page without reliable source. The section was about an award . I added a source who is Kenneth Okolie official Instagram Page. So i'm going to put that link here and i will let you check by yourself before reposting the section. https://www.instagram.com/p/B2UTT-ihQAR/ Thank you for your feedback — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tessa9624 (talk • contribs) 18:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Tessa9624, quit using his Instagram as a reliable source to substantiate his awards won. Celestina007 (talk) 10:52, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your information. Is this source is better ? https://www.tinff.net/?pgid=k0dxpo1k-7617c3e4-c30a-4772-98c1-ca26c0c14a10 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tessa9624 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Tessa9624, nope! It isn’t. You know what, I’d find a source for you & include it in the article later on so that you focus on other things. Celestina007 (talk) 18:23, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

My Article Wasif Boutros Ghali moved to draftspace

Hi, thanks for your interest in the Foreign Ministers of Egypt. I added the only significant English-language citation to the draft:Wasif Boutros Ghali page. I'm working to improve the comprehensive list of Minister_of_Foreign_Affairs_(Egypt). Please move this draft into a normal page as soon as you can. Will Hanley (talk) 20:52, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

@Will Hanley, I’m not sure I’m interested in anything pertaining to Egypt, at least for now, but I drafitied your article because it was unsourced hence not suited for mainspace. If you have added some reliable sources to the article then you may submit it via the afc process or just move it back to mainspace by yourself. Do you understand? Celestina007 (talk) 21:01, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Answer

Hi, I'm referring to your comment on the modifications I made on Sergio Vieira de Mello page. I'm one of his son and that page is constantly vandalised with false information. When I try to re-establish the truth moderators treaten to block me... What can i do?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huayna 65 (talk • contribs) 15:35, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Huayna 65: you must stop edit warring. That will get you blocked NO MATTER how right you might be. You also must stop editing the article because of your COI and only use the article's talk/discussion page. (When you get more experience here, there are certain conditions under which a COI person can carefully edit an article.) Discuss the issues without attacking other editors. If you can convince them you are right, then they can make the changes you desire. You will have to back up your arguments with reliable sources. -- Valjean (talk) 15:50, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007: @Valjean: Thank you for your explanation but let me now explain: Ms Carolina Larriera keeps pretending being the spouse of Sergio Vieira de Mello, which is a lie. Sergio Vieira de Mello was married to Annie Vieira de Mello, who was the sole and only official spouse he had. Now you might have rules in Misplaced Pages, I understand that, but that shouldn't let people spreading false information. I'm ready to provide you with more information and official documents but in private (pls let me know how). Similarly, the paragraph on Centro Sergio Vieira de Mello shouldn't be allowed as this entity has no legal basis and is infringing a protected name, a legal procedure is ongoing. Again I'm willing to provide you with proofs in private. Thank you in advance for your understanding and kind help.

Suggestion

Hey Celestina, I saw that your talk page is not being archived and after some time it might get flooded with messages so you might want to check out Lowercase sigmabot III which is a bot that archives talk pages. Antila ✉ 06:41, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

@Antila, I kinda like it this way. Strange yeah? Celestina007 (talk) 12:42, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

notability criteria

Hello Celestina007, please provide notability criteria for Draft:Sujith_Bhakthan

@RoboShutter, see WP:GNG. Celestina007 (talk) 18:22, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Celestina007 reliable sources are available , see the reference of Draft:Sujith_Bhakthan

@RoboShutter, no those aren’t reliable sources, see WP:RS & always sign your posts for clarity sake. Celestina007 (talk) 18:32, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007 there are not Self-published sources , there are news & medias in india& kerala.Please check onGoogle.@Celestina007 Please give example of reliable sources

@RoboShutter, since you haven’t bothered to read the links I’ve been providing you then I wouldn’t bother responding to you forthwith at least until you start to read them start by learning how to sign, once again see WP:SIGN, then proceed to WP:GNG. If you bothered to read WP:RS like I asked you to, you wouldn’t be asking me to give you examples of reliable sources as you would have seen how to identify them there. Celestina007 (talk) 19:12, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Request on 13:58:42, 16 June 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Mikeemesser

• Mikeemesser (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:RAG Austria AG (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Celestina007, if I understood correctly we failed to argue sufficiently, that RAG AG is a noteworthy company outside of Austria. Could I ask for your support on this matter? What kind of evidence would be sufficient? Scientific articles for example?

Concerning the "Coatrack" I understand the the article might be too long. Will it be enough if we strip it to the core about the company itself or do you feel something essential is missing?

If the article on RAG AG is finally approved I am planning on two more articles concerning RAG's two main scientific projects, "Underground Sun Storage (USS)" and "Underground Sun Conversion (USC)" which are briefly mentioned in the article.

Thank you very much for your support! Mikeemesser (talk) 13:58, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Mikeemesser (talk) 13:58, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

@Mikeemesser, sorry for the late reply. The article in question doesn’t meet WP:CORP. Celestina007 (talk) 18:30, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Bans Geet, Dropped out of the draft and sent it to the lead article.

I was just going to add government sources immediately. You finished it.

I have added the source and that is the government source. I am able to add the source of each part. Please do this and get him out of the draft. Sir, you know and I am new, I take some time to add the source, but I do add it. You can see my articles.Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 18:07, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Arun singh Yaduvanshi, first off I’m a “she” secondly, I’m not sure I understand what you are saying but i suspect I draftified your article, no? But in any case you can’t move an article to mainspace with 0 sources you should at least add one but adding at least three isn’t a bad idea. As adding only one source can be classified as “under sourced” and your article may still be moved back to draft space especially when it’s a biographical article. So when you have done so(added the sources) you can by yourself move the article back to mainspace. If you need further clarification do let me know. Celestina007 (talk) 18:28, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Oh! I have added many sources with government sources. You can see . It is a popular folk song of Chhattisgarh state, sources have also been added for this. See Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 18:48, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Arun singh Yaduvanshi, oh it’s a song? Like I said do feel free to move it back to mainspace now you have included sources. Celestina007 (talk) 18:50, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it is a folk song of the Chhattisgarh state of India which is sung by the Yadav dynasty, it is believed to be descended from Lord Krishna. When he used to go to the forest to graze the cow. He used to make bamboo instruments for his entertainment which slowly took the form of folklore. I am trying to add more sources to it. Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 19:02, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Bhaukaal, Review

I have added many sources for the subject of this article. I think that would be enough. Will be added if more sources are required. So review. Send it to the main article. Thank you. Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 19:40, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

@Arun singh Yaduvanshi, Hello, in the same manner you usually move other articles to mainspace when you create them, the same principle applies generally. Do you have any more issues you need clarifications on? If yes, I’m always a ping away. Celestina007 (talk) 21:39, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Bhaukal Review. Arun singh Yaduvanshi (talk) 06:39, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Tanaza

Hi there,

Just want to let you know that this article has been re-created by Paul Smith 1970, despite your previous interaction with the user advising them not to re-create the page. (I am not tagging this as G4 myself though, as I was not a participant to the previous AfD, so I can't be 100% sure the current article is substantially the same as the deleted version). Defer to your judgment for the User and the page. --Dps04 (talk) 04:19, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Dps04, thanks for the notification I’d see what I can do from here. Celestina007 (talk) 12:53, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007 I've seriously tried to correct the article deleting all the possible references to advertising or promotional content (also if before there were no references of that type). Seriously, I have very confused: if the article has not promotional intent, WHY it is important who writes the article. I know the rule of Misplaced Pages, I have read all of those. I'm also ready to add all the paid advisory or what Misplaced Pages staff requires, but honestly, I don't understand this obstinacy against this article if the reason is only WHO writes the article. And I don't admit to being one person paid to do that or part of the company. For example, if an employer describes COCA-COLA COMPANY and he/she respects exactly the rule of Misplaced Pages of correct writing style and impartiality, what matters if he/she is the employer.

I'm ready to delete other parts of the article or modify them exactly as you desire, but please don't give me an ironic answer like always. I know that you can decide to answer what you want, but what I ask you is to help me to publish the article in a proper way.

I also understand that the behavior can let to think that I'm trying to publish at any cost and this element is not a good thing for Misplaced Pages. Tanaza is not a marginal company in the IT sector: Cisco, Netgear, TPlink, OpenMesh, Comfast, Mikrotik, Linksys. The company has lots of references in the international press. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Smith 1970 (talk • contribs) 07:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Dps04, thanks for the notification, they have been rightfully blocked for being a promo single purpose account. Celestina007 (talk) 20:22, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Draft:List of Young Israel Synagogues

Hi Celestina007. I saw that you moved my new article to draftspace due a lack of references.I plan to make a table, listing each synagogue's name, location, rabbi, and website. Is it enough to just write the synagogues' website to count as a reference, or due I have to actually put it in as a reference with the "<>ref<>"? Charlie Smith FDTB (talk) 21:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Charlie Smith FDTB, seeing as it is a list article a single source should be enough but next time please be careful not to move to mainspace any unsourced article. Celestina007 (talk) 21:09, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Charlie Smith FDTB (talk) 21:11, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

@Charlie Smith FDTB, Anyday! Anytime! I’m always here to assist anyone within my capacity. Celestina007 (talk) 21:54, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Moosa Zameer

Hi, Please move the article again to draft. I think I was editing and saved it again. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leesaaisath (talk • contribs) 00:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

It was moved to draft because it appeared to be a biographical article with 0 sources, now you have added 2 I don’t see any reason why I should move it to draft again. Apparently it’s okay. Celestina007 (talk) 00:49, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Deletion

Hi, i have created a deletion page for Fatih Doğan can you add your comment? Baran Ahmet (talk) 09:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

@Baran Ahmet, Aha! lest I forget, now that the AFD is apparently closed. Please keep in mind that canvassing isn’t proper nor allowed here, that is, notifying people who are clearly to !vote in your favour about ongoing AFD’s. Thanks for your time. Celestina007 (talk) 16:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Your advice

Last week, I started a draft article on Subject-Verb Agreement in English (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Draft:Subject-Verb_Agreement_in_English#Always_Plural) on finding no site completely explaining the topic. Today, it has been declined and someone has suggested merging it with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/Agreement_(linguistics). I did so but it looks sort of out-of-place here. As a member of Wikiproject English, what do you think about it? Shubhrajit Sadhukhan (talk) 11:22, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Hey! Johnson28.7 (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Need Help Making Article Better

Hello, Celestina007. You recently nominated my article on Marko Danial for deletion, and I was curious as to why? I have worked on this page for a while, and I believe everything is done correctly this time. Any advice on how we can save it so it does not get deleted? I have taken your suggestion and edited the article. Please let me know. Update: a user seems to have removed your deletion nomination, can you please check this. Johnson28.7 (talk)

@Johnson28.7, start by seeing WP:YFA & as for that thing you did where you created a different account to remove the speedy delete tag on the article, please don’t you ever try such again. That is sockpuppetry & would get you indefinitely blocked.Celestina007 (talk) 09:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Hey Celestin007. I apologize that it seems to be that I have created a different account to remove the speedy delete tag, however, I did not. I understand how serious that is, and I have been trying to learn Misplaced Pages's guidelines for a few months now. That is why I asked for what I can do to make the article better. Please let me know if there is anything that we can do in regards to this article. :) Johnson28.7 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Like I said just go through WP:YFA. Read WP:GNG also. Furthermore please do not engage in sockpuppetry. An account pops up 7 hours ago & goes straight to remove the speedy delete tag placed on article you created is very much suspicious to put it mildly. I don’t want you to be blocked that’s why I’m not reporting that but please don’t do such in the future. If you have any other questions in future I’m always here to assist. Celestina007 (talk) 18:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Wagakukodansho

Hi Celestina007. I noticed you moved my (short) article about Wagakukodansho to a draftspace (I understand an history institute of Edo era may interest only a handful people...). Anyway, I had started to include a couple more references, that should definitely clarify its notoriety, and I wanted to include more info including some translation of the Japanese wikipedia version (and more, there are a couple sources not in the Japanese wiki). I submitted once for review and it says I need to wait up to 6 weeks. Can I still improve the article in the mean time though? Also, I had crossed linked with the Japanese wiki article, so I guess that is gone, too?Tensaibuta (talk) 22:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Recreation of Charles Okpaleke

Greetings, if you notice, I thanked you on the talk page. In the short time I have spent on wikipedia, I have learnt a lot from reading your comments on talk pages and articles. I also have seen the great work you have been doing. I saw your reason here I will like to recreate the page Charles Okpaleke having researched and got some reliable sources. I just watched his film on Netflix and searched him on wiki only to find out he has no wiki page. Charles Okpaleke produced the movie LIVING IN BONDAGE: BREAKING FREE which happened the be the highest grossing film in Nigeria in 2019. It also has won the biggest awards on the African continent. How can you help me to create this page? I will be excited to create it because he is one of the most searched celebrities in Africa. Thank you again for all the works you have been doing. MarkCarey911 (talk) 00:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@MarkCarey911, Right here I warned an editor named @Njemeh to quit re-creating the Charles Okpaleke article which had been deleted more than 4 times see:(first deletion) (second deletion)(third deletion)& (fourth deletion) He eventually 'Ghosted' & Just like you, he had an obsession with anything related to that movie & the director (Charles Okpaleke). I would let you know right now that there’s sufficient reason for me to believe you are the same person as that editor. I gave you the benefit of doubt the first time when you created the Swanky JKA article despite your flimsy arguments as can be seen in our convo here & what happens next? You begin to create articles for non notable organizations like this one. Conventional & typical tail signs of an Undisclosed paid editor / COI editor. I’m going ahead to ping everyone you pinged pertaining to the re-creation of this article just so they are aware of the situation of things. Pinging Tone, DGG, CactusWriter, & Mazca. Celestina007 (talk) 01:35, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007: There is nothing wrong with an ambitious user trying to create articles on wikipedia, if there is something wrong with that then I would gladly leave wikipedia for you. I do not understand why there is so much anger amongst people here. I took interest in wikipedia during the global lockdown caused by Covid19, because I finally found time to do something I love since I had stopped going to work. Prior to this time I had NEVER created on wikipedia, but here you are always accusing me of wrongdoings when you do not even know me. Except there is something you feel I did to you personally, let me know. But believe it or not, I am not the so called editor you mentioned, if he was paid to do that, it is actually non of my business. I am not paid, I only have a passion for the industry. I have done a lot of work, cleaning up some of the articles related to the Nigerian film industry on wikipedia. Okay, with all that I mentioned about the topic, is it not qualified to be on wikipedia? But did you mention anything about that? No! Why? Because I am the one saying it. You obviously have something against me. I always come to you because I feel you are very understanding and you know that this is a platform for us to use to get people informed and I saw you as someone I can learn from but see what you do. Again, I made a list of over twenty successful Nigerian films that do not have articles on wikipedia, so that I can create them. But how can I enjoy my time here if I keep getting accused wrongly? If I was paid, why won't I state it? I didn't even know it had been created before, I had written the article and gathered the sources only for me to find that it had been created and deleted. I guess this is just not worth the fight, it is not a do or die affair. God bless you MarkCarey911 (talk) 02:37, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@MarkCarey911, Amen! Guilt tripping won’t work here. Like I told you before no editor here was born last night. How did you know to ping all the right admins who had deleted the page in the past? Seeing that as of now you hadn’t made any prior efforts (with this account) to create the Charkes Okpaleke article at least your edit history doesn’t show that! (no attempt to draft the article) (no attempt to create it via sandbox) nothing whatsoever to show “oh! he indeed was trying to create the page when he discovered it had been deleted multiple times” So the only way you could have automatically known the article had been deleted numerous times in the past & also know the right admins to ping without making any efforts to create the article (with the current account you are operating) is if you are the same person operating the Njemeh account. Honestly I don’t think you are a honest editor I asked you here how you obtained the image on the Swanky JKA article & you said it was a “by chance meeting” I said fine. You say you are primary focused on Nollywood related articles but after “successfully” creating an article on a borderline notable individual you go straight to creating an article for Draft:Patricia (company) (a non notable organization) not affiliated in any which way to Nollywood, now that my friend is the M/O of Undisclosed Paid Editors. The undisclosed paid editing ring amongst Nigerian editors is at its worst almost like it was in 2017 & we can’t afford any more bad faith editors. Quit bullshitting me. Thank you! Celestina007 (talk) 02:43, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007: Oh com'on, this hatred is becoming too apparent. Your statement "So the only way you could have automatically known the article had been deleted numerous times in the past & also know the right admins to ping without making any efforts to create the article (with the current account you are operating) is if you are the same person operating the Njemeh account." is wrong because on the first page while starting to recreate an article it says "A page with this title has previously been moved or deleted." and lists all the users that deleted it in the past. I was not in this in 2017 and I maintain that i have never been paid. Will I lose anything if I am paid and I disclose it? I do not think it is right to keep accusing me of being the same editor as Njmeh. And I did not take money and not disclose. I know there is no way I can convince you, so I guess I have to start creating articles that are not linked to humans. That way I won't be accused of undisclosed payment. But why are you avoiding to talk about the notability of the subject? Is it about me? Please I think you should watch me after now, and I will send you every article I intend to create so you advice me. About Patricia (company), it was just an attempt to do a draft of an article that has been deleted before. Sadly, I chose the wrong one. I guess it was just because I listened to the testimony of the founder about the growth of his company. Please can I have your email address? I really need you to put me through on some things. Unfortunately, people don't really try to help here. MarkCarey911 (talk) 10:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

@MarkCarey911, deny it all you want but I have other evidence & per WP:BEANS I won’t say any further. “But why are you avoiding to talk about the notability of the subject?” if an article has been deleted 6 times it does tell you how non notable the subject of that article is, no? Please don’t ping me again this is all vapid. Don’t “send” any articles through/to me, rather use the WP:AFC. Celestina007 (talk) 12:58, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Yup, enough said here, WP:AFC is the proper way to proceed. --Tone 16:57, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Need help for this article!

Hello, Celestina I am Adnan User:Article Baker I recently made this article Ajit Arora but however it was tagged with deletion template, this guy maybe had the general notability, you can search on any search engine and see the results, help me if possible how to improve this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArticleBaker (talk • contribs) 16:30, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

George Kuntu Blankson Article

Hi, Could you kindly help move article George Kuntu Blankson out of draft? I've updated the article by adding some references. Hope they surfice for a start. Thanks PS: The article is for a Wikiproject competition. I hope this can be done soon so I can sign validly by the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naa2Darkoa (talk • contribs) 22:43, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Naa2Darkoa, I mostly likely drafified the article because it was unsourced or under-sourced, if you have added a few reliable sources to the article you may as well by yourself move it back to mainspace. Celestina007 (talk) 00:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Celestina007, Tried to move it out but have not much experience with it. Ended up with a message which says the draft might be approved in 6weeks. Anyway you can help with speedy request? Don't know how to do any of that. Thanks

PS: The no reference problem resulted because I left it to another editor on the article when we experienced an editiors clash. Competition:). Apparently the other editor had also left it to meNaa2Darkoa (talk) 00:37, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Naa2Darkoa, okay I think I understand your problem now. Let me see what can I do about your predicament. Okay, from what I can see you have no problems, you submitted your draft work for review & it’s currently on the queue & would be attended to by an AFC reviewer, I am an AFC reviewer but since you have asked me specifically to review it, I unfortunately wouldn’t because I don’t do review on request except on dire or exceptional circumstances, I’m really sorry I can’t be of help at the moment. I hope you understand. Celestina007 (talk) 00:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Found the sources

Dear Celestina007,

I managed to get the sources from radio websites on 106.2 FM and 107.0 FM pages.

Thank you.

GoAheadFan95 (talk) 12:24, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

@GoAheadFan95, Good job! Now you can move the article yourself back to mainspace.Celestina007 (talk) 12:31, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Notice

I came across a page that doesn't meet general notability guidelines, Miraboi, the sources and all is not indepth, I want to know if some pages are special, or you just choose which you want to delete. Amosflash (talk) 16:08, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Amosflash, I agree that it looks suspicious at first glance. But why don’t you yourself nominate it for deletion? Why are you telling me? Be bold! Be productive! If you think it doesn’t satisfy our general notability criteria then do the needful. I’d also take a closer look at the article myself later because it definitely looks suspicious. Celestina007 (talk) 18:41, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Oluwaseyi Olufemi Emmanuel Good catch

I saw the author had moved it to main space. What a poor article, good catch. I think they became overwhelmed with thinking it was ready!

We differ in approach. Yours is as valid as mine with CSD. I'd have redraftified it. If CSD fails (unlikely but always possible) might I suggest that approach as a second shot rather than the more long winded AfD? Fiddle Faddle 07:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Timtrent, of course, works for me. Celestina007 (talk) 07:13, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

I've tried to help the author on his talk page. Because it's an autobiography (0.99 probability) I doubt it will make much difference, but just maybe we'll turn him into thinking differently together. Fiddle Faddle 07:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Timtrent, they clearly haven’t bothered to read basic policies pertaining to notability & presume anyone can upload anything to Misplaced Pages(use it for self promotion) like they do on LinkedIn, oh well! they are in for a big surprise. Celestina007 (talk) 08:53, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

I don't disagree at all. Time will tell. Fiddle Faddle 10:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Seems he drew too much attention to himself. Ah well. Fiddle Faddle 11:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion dispute

Hi, you nominated for speedy deletion the article on Atisuto that I have created. The reason for your deletion was "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion", but instead of giving me the opportunity to re-edit and remove any alleged promotional content, you used a procedure that is too tough. Next time, try being more constructive than suspicious - I know it was my first article, but I have read the guidelines mentioned in Your first article and thought the article looks pretty good. Ta,jhk (talk) 13:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ta,jhk, I’m sorry but you may not use Misplaced Pages for blatant promotional purposes such as you did. I don’t think anyone ever gets it right with their first article. See WP:CSD, WP:PROMO & WP:GNG.Celestina007 (talk) 22:44, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ta,jhk, the Atisuto article is speedy deleted yesterday & you recreate it today. It’s no surprise it has been nominated for deletion by a different editor. Creating & recreating a particular article that has been deleted severally would get it locked. Just thought to let you know that. Celestina007 (talk) 11:15, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

But I disagree with the reason for the deletion. It's not promotional (I didn't get money from them and I don't even know them), and I think they're notable enough to have a Misplaced Pages page (they're actually influencing the music scene in Israel, and many reliable and well-known online sources mention them). So how can we solve this dispute? --Ta,jhk (talk) 11:28, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

By the way, that's true that I've recreated the article again. However, it's not the same as the original version that you claimed is promotional, because I made substantial changes to it. --Ta,jhk (talk) 11:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Page draft

Hello,

I created the page SS Minotaure and you made it a draft. I'm fine with this as it didn't have sources, but I would appreciate you letting me know how long this is going to take. In the mean time I will update the page.

- La Transatlantique (Maurice) — Preceding unsigned comment added by La Transatlantique (talk • contribs) 20:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@La Transatlantique, If you add sources to the article you may by yourself move it back to Mainspace or create it via the WP:AFC process whichever one pleases you.Celestina007 (talk) 07:39, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	A small token of appreciation for your work. - Harsh (talk) 23:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Harsh 2580, thank you so much. This means a lot to me. Celestina007 (talk) 23:23, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Ariel Weil

Hello Celestina007, You just moved a one liner new page to draft, which was a right decision, but as I found it to be reliable enough to be in the main space, and I am also re editing the whole draft, I thinbk moving it to the mainspace will be right, thus after I edit it shall I move it to the mainspace directly? Dtt1 09:13, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Dtt1, of course you can, although I’d say via the WP:AFC is the proper way but it’s your prerogative to pick either. See WP:BAREURL & WP:CITE, correct your citing format & proceed to submit via AFC or move it back to mainspace.Celestina007 (talk) 10:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Moving Broda Shaggi to Draftspace

Hi Celestina,

Good work you're doing. I must say you gone a long way, i'm considering moving Broda Shaggi to mainspace so it can be developed there and pass through proper review as its probably in violation of WP:PAID. I have also gone through discussion on SPI case and your reasoning is correct. Let me know. Cheers. Lapablo (talk) 11:07, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Lapablo, Thanks-a-million! I don’t even have a problem with the Broda Shaggi article. It is definitely UPE but seems decent all the same. I’m not sure how I feel about anyone moving the article back to draftspace seeing as it would affect the ongoing SPI, but all the same feel free to, I’d just restructure the SPI.Celestina007 (talk) 11:15, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007:, I will let it go through the SPI and after then we can know what to do. Cheers. Lapablo (talk) 11:22, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Lapablo, Brilliant! I’d ping you when the spi closes. Hopefully it doesn’t stall. Celestina007 (talk) 11:29, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@Lapablo, Tony declined a CheckUser. Do you still want to move it to draftspace? Safe to say you may go ahead. Celestina007 (talk) 04:22, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Baie du Petit Pokemouche (local service district) moved to draftspace

I've never created an article before. I threw this stub together because somebody keeps redirecting to an unrelated entry with a word in common in its name. I was hoping somebody else would come along and expand the article. I certainly have enough items already on my to-do list.

I've seen other stubs that seemed to have the same lack of information. I guess I missed something. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 22:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

AFL1-3603

It's a STUB. I marked it as a STUB so others could add the citations. Did you see what it's about? A VERY FAMOUS MUSICIAN whose very important early album has no WP article. Please undo what you did. Thanks. Gagitsel (talk) 00:50, 10 July 2020 (UTC) This is why I hate contributing to Misplaced Pages - people who tear things down rather than build them up. Gagitsel (talk) 00:53, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

you can’t put out articles, stub or not without including a single source/reference in it. Thank you.Celestina007 (talk) 05:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Gagitsel: If you want people to create a "STUB so others could add the citations" you can do that in WP:DRAFTSPACE and maybe call attention of other editors to it. Any article in mainspace is required to have references and citations. Lapablo (talk) 11:07, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Never mind - have a nice day. I'm done trying to contribute to WP. Bye. Gagitsel (talk) 13:56, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

By the way, I once created a WP article for a well-known Italian progrock band, including plenty of references. It was immediately deleted, no voting or anything. I asked the guy why he deleted it - It didn't sound like the name of a real band he said.Gagitsel (talk) 14:01, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Message by Adedayoj

Hi Celestine, Pls can you help me more anout my article my reviwed on "Alesh Sanni". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adedayoj (talk • contribs) 06:02, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@Adedayoj, On the draft: Draft:Alesh Ola Sanni, the actor doesn’t seem to satisfy either WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Are you the subject of the article or is he a friend or colleague of yours? Celestina007 (talk) 08:08, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Wagakukodansho

Hi Celestina. I spent the last couple days properly sourcing / rewriting the Wagakukodansho article you (I guess rightly) put in draftspace, I guess I can say it's probably even more sourced than the original Japanese article (and someone helped a bit it seems...). As it's one of the key educational institutes in late Edo period and it crosses the path of several other related articles, I am thinking of putting it back to mainspace. I am thinking of enriching a bit everything related to that (I know it's quite niche, but there are a couple other articles out there related to that topic and the contents on the English Misplaced Pages about that are overall quite poor when not wrong). Furthermore there is quite a bit of work to do around the redirects due to the many English potential spellings of the place. Contact me if it's an issue Tensaibuta (talk) 13:59, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Move Request

Hello Celestina, I will need a little assistance from you. I want to move Aiteo Cup to Aiteo Cup (women) and make the existing Aiteo Cup redirect or replace Federation Cup (Nigeria football). I am more particular about the women competition as the Nigerian Women's Cup makes little sense as it is just a description for what the competition is about, but not really a recognized name in itself. And since there is a men's competition of the same name, it is important to include "(women)" I don't think this should be controversial as I am responsible for most of the move history on both pages, in fact I was the one that moved it to "Aiteo Cup" some years ago. Just look at it, and tell me what you think. HandsomeBoy (talk) 14:15, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

@HandsomeBoy, Hello Darreg, I don’t think a dab page might be necessary seeing as the Aiteo Cup for men has no article of its own. If it does (which I’m unsure of) then a dab would definitely be recquired but if not, then a dab page might not be necessary. Furthermore the Nigerian Women's Cup which you say the title makes little sense (which is true) already redirects to Aiteo Cup(which is pretty much title specific and not vague) or president am I missing anything intricate here? Celestina007 (talk) 16:47, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your response, I have manually fixed it. Not best practices, but did the job. HandsomeBoy (talk) 22:40, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Mohana (Vidhan Sabha constituency)

Thanks for your message. I had forgotten to cite references. Now I have added them. Actually this article will need more additions but they will come later. Some research is needed for them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.35.33.223 (talk) 20:15, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

You've got mail

Celestina007

Hi, please i desperately need your help i saw your comment on the page i tried to create, please note that the page is not about promoting any individual or anyone it is the biography of a Gospel Musician. please help me so that this page be on wikipedia as maany people would want to know more about his biography.. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julie Conteh (talk • contribs) 04:01, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Julie Conteh, No. you didn’t “see” my comment. You “deleted” my comment & removed from the Draft:Israel Rocklyn draft article the fact that I “rejected” it following your re-submission after Girth Summit “declined” it, as well as you removing a CSD G11 tag I placed on it. From the aforementioned actions You do not “desperately” need my help. You “desperately” want the article of a client on Misplaced Pages space & correct me if I am wrong but aren’t you (by creating this new account) evading a block? Seeing as you were blocked with your previous account? Celestina007 (talk) 04:31, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

you have made a mistake by wanting to delete the page because the page is strictly for information purposes and its content will be added by other people as time goes by. because this article is for a Gospel Musician Israel Rocklyn and it is his Biography am sure other people will be able to edit it more please approve my draft please we really want his biography here as he has blessed so many lives and impacted so many people. i have included all the references that are needed and the once i have access to, am sure other people will be all to that and edit as time goes on because it is strictly for information purposes thank you Madam. God Bless you for your hard work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julie Conteh (talk • contribs) 04:27, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

@Celestina007

please madam i am new here and i dont know all the rules, i joined yesterday, Mr. Summit review the article, i received a message that my account is blocked because of the name i used which was my Ministry's name so wikipedia said i should either create a new account that was what i did ma.... i can assure you that this page is not about promoting anyone and its not for a client ma... please help me, am sorry for any miss understanding, even the things i tried to delete was not intentional ma.. please help, i have made all the references and citation that are required. please help me.. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julie Conteh (talk • contribs) 04:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

I need your help ma

Celestina007 please perdon me and let this stay her i can assure you and give you my word that this page has not to do with promotion i swear to God Almighty. please allow i beg you ma. i promise you am going to add more content and i know other people will add more content to this too please. this is the page ma https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Israel_Rocklyn

@Julie Conteh, thou shall not swear. I’m not sure how to help you, this is probably the third time you are recreating this article this week. I can’t “allow” it because WP:GNG, WG:PROMO, & other relevant policy do not allow me to “allow” it. If Misplaced Pages was a platform where people just “allowed” any type of article you wouldn’t be so vehemently recreating this article on here despite multiple deletions. The prestige & integrity of this encyclopedia is what I fight for. Thank you. You may try uploading his biography on this platform here I hear it’s always open season over there. Celestina007 (talk) 08:30, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Celestina007

Celestina007 okay can you plesae create the article for me, let me send you all the necessary info. because i dont know what to do again.. the article i have created is even better and got more information than some of the articles you have allowed on Misplaced Pages...... this sounds unfair really.... what can you say about Michaeal Jackson is his page not promoting him? this is unfair .

Celestina007

Celestina007 did i tell you the article is for promo or what...... the way your treat people is unacceptable i took my time to do this and now you are here telling me something you think..... i will find you and make sure you suffer for this if my page is deleted you will pay dearly.. mark my word, am from africa and you dear not joke with me... i will show you what Africa Juju really is.. mark my word... i already have your picture

@Julie Conteh, threatning me with Juju? African witchcraft? Hahahahaha. Now I’ve to officially report this comedic Bullshit threat. I’m tearing up from the excessive laughter. I really did have a very good laugh though. It’s a shame I have to report this. Per normal protocol. Celestina007 (talk) 09:06, 12 July 2020 (UTC)