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== Direct Impingement vs Internal Piston == |
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impingement" multiple times, but does also call out this general misconception in one section. Is there any opposition to fixing the incorrect terminology? The operating mechanism is more correctly called "internal piston." ] (]) 18:46, 31 August 2023 (UTC) |
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I just removed a repetitive citation from a bullet point list, since it's all the same source and left the one at the end of the sentence introducing the bullet points. This seems a lot cleaner, but I can't find a wiki style guide saying how to deal with violet point citations. Anyone know what the convention is? ] (]) 22:36, 17 September 2023 (UTC) |
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I’m a bit bewildered about the lemma. There’s many distinguishing particularities between the two, beginning with unmatched prevalence (100M vs. a mere 8kk) and development philosophies, regarding caliber and ballistic profiles, etc., and even more eminently, concerning rather recent perspectives, i.e. the AK still happily been deployed around the globe, with the M-16 mostly replaced by civilian and ordinance derivatives. Sure, you can always compare two assault rifles, but both layman and specialist ought to perceive incomparable features of these unrelated makes. And of course the article is far too substantial to be contested, yet still, I find the comparison of those models, to at least some degree, questionable. -- ]<sup>]</sup> 20:56, 15 August 2021 (UTC) |
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== Why does is the STG44 on this page instead of the SKS? == |
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== STG seems to be given way too much importance in this article == |
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The AK was developed as an SMG and so the STG had relatively minor influence on it, especially given their wildly different mechanics and the M-16 was introduced in the 60's after pretty much everyone else had come up with an assault rifle, so it was a couple of generations removed from the STG being the shiniest AR on the block. Given that the STG wasn't nearly as influential on the AKM or the M16 as it was on say the G3, I really struggle to see why half the article comparing the two is about it. ] (]) 11:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC) |
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The M14 was the rifle the USA army used before they started using the M16, and this is not the case with the STG44 and the AK WHYYYYYYYY!!!!!1??????? |
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The article incorrectly refers to the mechanism for the M16 platform as "direct
impingement" multiple times, but does also call out this general misconception in one section. Is there any opposition to fixing the incorrect terminology? The operating mechanism is more correctly called "internal piston." Jasavina (talk) 18:46, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
I just removed a repetitive citation from a bullet point list, since it's all the same source and left the one at the end of the sentence introducing the bullet points. This seems a lot cleaner, but I can't find a wiki style guide saying how to deal with violet point citations. Anyone know what the convention is? Jasavina (talk) 22:36, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
The AK was developed as an SMG and so the STG had relatively minor influence on it, especially given their wildly different mechanics and the M-16 was introduced in the 60's after pretty much everyone else had come up with an assault rifle, so it was a couple of generations removed from the STG being the shiniest AR on the block. Given that the STG wasn't nearly as influential on the AKM or the M16 as it was on say the G3, I really struggle to see why half the article comparing the two is about it. HamNCheeseSandwich (talk) 11:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)