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Is a "full stop" necessary at the end of non-sentence captions? We have many differences and variant methods here on the Encyclopedia's ''countless'' articles. Please ping, if you are going to leave a comment. — ] (]) 03:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:no, see ]. {{u|Hamid Hassani}}. '''] <sup>(] • ])</sup>''' 06:55, 7 February 2024 (UTC) |
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::{{ping|Lee Vilenski}} Thank you. — ] (]) 07:47, 7 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Who put this stupid picture? Scrape that away! |
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== Judd Trump hug == |
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], regarding your use of rollback , on my recent addition, with the edit summary "Trivia, this is an encyclopaedia (])": I added this "{{tq|After the match O’Sullivan wrapped his arms around Trump, sharing a tight hug for more than a minute, later revealing that he had been left "sobbing".<ref>{{Cite web |url=https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/snooker/ronnie-osullivan-judd-trump-world-championship-b2070467.html |title=‘What he said blew me away’: Ronnie O’Sullivan lifts lid on Judd Trump hug |first=Harry |last=Latham-Coyle |date=3 May 2022 |website=The Independent}}</ref>}}" This has been covered by a number of ] news sources. It is far from "trivia" and, as far as I know, is quite exceptional in professional snooker generally or in the history of the ]. In fact, it was mentioned, as "a hug which lasted more than a minute", by ] on today's '']'' on ]. It was a vivid demonstration of O'Sullivan's emotional temperament and should be briefly mentioned somewhere. ] (]) 14:39, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:Sorry, but it is plainly trivia. ] applies. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 15:13, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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::Why do you think this detail was "gossip"? Viewing figures ] (]) 15:18, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:::Please read the policy: {{tq|"Not every facet of a celebrity's life... is significant enough to be included in the biography of a person."}} To be significant, this fleeting moment (and it's significance) would need to be being discussed in several years time; right now, it's trivia. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 15:33, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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::::This is hardly "every facet of a celebrity's life". It was a very public display of emotion at a event that had enormous personal significance. ] (]) 15:43, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:::Agree with <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup>. It is clearly contrary to ] and also contrary to ]. Read the content linked to and you will see this to be the case. Ronnie O'Sullivan's notability is as a snooker player not as a professional hugger. ] (]) 15:28, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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::::Trivial indeed. Just because news sources (which have long been going downhill in their journalistic quality) mention it, it doesn't automatically make it a worth inclusion in Misplaced Pages articles. ] (]) 15:31, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::'']'' has "long been going downhill in its journalistic quality"? But there are plenty of others. ] (]) 15:40, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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::::I've read all the "the content linked to", thanks, and I think there is a degree of interpretation to be made. I wasn't actually suggesting that O'Sullivan was a "professional hugger." You might equally (and equally erroneously) argue that ]'s notability is as a tennis player not as a convicted fraudster or that ]'s notability is as a former professional footballer and not as an unstable alcoholic. Sportsmen are not all robots, they do have personalities <small>(with some ], of course).</small> ] (]) 15:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::My comment about 'professional hugger' was tongue in cheek and I was not seriously suggesting you were suggesting O'Sullivan was one. But the point still stands - the content about the hug is trivia and is supported by the interpretation of at least ] and maybe ] by more than one editor as shown above. So is such content that important to you? There's far too much trivia creeping into Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 16:36, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::It's a loss to the article. I'm not responsible for "too much trivia creeping into Misplaced Pages", thanks. ] (]) 16:46, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:::::::No, it really isn't. Additionally, giving the same weight to an insignificant (in the grand scheme of things) hug as is given to each record that he broke or equalled during the championship is ]. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 17:12, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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::::::::It might be better placed in the "Personal life section", except that "Career summary" already contains many details about his mental health and emotional problems. His breaking of records and championship wins are rightly give much more prominence. If that one single sentence is judged too much, it might easily be trimmed down. Currently there is '''no content whatsoever''' on the personal significance of the win to O'Sullivan himself? ] (]) 17:26, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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{{Od}} - seems like a pretty trivial thing, but maybe needs a brief mention. ] is a better place regardless, as the career summary here is supposed to be short in summary style. Best Wishes, '''] <sup>(] • ])</sup>''' 17:54, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:Thank you. A very good idea. ] (]) 18:23, 3 May 2022 (UTC) |
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::Not a good idea at all and contrary to consensus at the moment ] (]) 19:11, 4 May 2022 (UTC) |
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:::The relevant place to discuss is at ], where a separate consensus can be sought. ] (]) 20:10, 4 May 2022 (UTC) |
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Is a "full stop" necessary at the end of non-sentence captions? We have many differences and variant methods here on the Encyclopedia's countless articles. Please ping, if you are going to leave a comment. — Hamid Hassani (talk) 03:06, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
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