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= March 22 = = January 15 =


== Template Categorization Confusion ==
== Qumash ==


So I'm trying to work on categorization tasks; specifically in Category:All uncategorized pages. Lets take for example, Template:Delay safesubst.
Please check my article. ] ] (]) 07:40, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


How am I supposed to correctly categorize this template?
:This does not look to be anywhere near meeting the ]. Also, are you ] in some way?--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:03, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


At first I thought I should just write:
:], if this "humorous information project" is, as you say, not commercial, is it charitable or what? -- ] (]) 08:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


<nowiki>]</nowiki>
== Abusive comment left in edit notes ==


Then I read a bit and now thought, what if I put the category on the /doc page and <nowiki>{{Delay safesubst}}</nowiki> on the main template.
Hi. There's an issue with recent edits to the Cotham School wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Cotham_School&action=history. A user has deleted a paragraph on the page (which isn't the issue) and has left an abusive comment in the edits. You can see that the abusive comment was their main goal because they made the edit, then reverted it, then made it again because they'd made a typo in their original edit comment (fowl > foul).
I don't know who inserted the original paragraph, don't know who deleted it, don't know if it was correct or not. But surely editors aren't allowed to leave derogatory comments on the edit history? ] (]) 09:05, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


:I've seen far worse derogatory comments than that. It's actually pretty mild. It is not uncommon for a user to repeat an edit to leave or correct an edit summary. ] (]) 09:07, 22 March 2024 (UTC) What am I supposed to do for moving both template and their doc pages? Even if I give the doc page a category, Category:All uncategorized pages, still retains the template (item). ] (]) 09:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:@] generally the way templates are categorized is by using {{tl|sandbox other}} on its doc page, like . <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 09:16, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:@] ] show that you have never added an edit summary. Please do so, since these help explain to other editors why you have made an addition or removal. See ]. I agree with 331dot that the edit summaries in question were not worth worrying about. ] (]) 11:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you ] (]) 15:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
: ], please look up the use of ] when you want to ] bracketed categories or template calls, instead of ]. Messing with the spacing between brackets or curlies on links or templates can throw off parsing algorithms that provide ] on the page, for those who have enabled that. Cheers, ] (]) 00:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


== Annoying map in Infobox ==
== Not Referenced Fake Story / Fabricated Characters ? ==


Using "display=title" in "Template-Coord"" displays the coordinates above the wiki article.<br>
The isbn is faked not linking.
In my sandbox of the ] article, no map is shown under "Tambon" in Infobox.<br>
But when I copy this "Yisan" article from my sandbox to the "Yisan" wiki article, a map automatically appears under "Tambon" in Infobox.<br>
The question is how can I stop this annoyance.<br>
SietsL] (]) 12:35, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


:{{ping|SietsL}} the info box uses {{tl|Infobox settlement}}, which includes a mapframe map based on Wikidata by default. Your sandbox is not linked to Wikidata, so no map is produced. You can hide the map by adding "|mapframe = no" as an extra line in the infobox. ] (]) 13:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
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== Close paraphrasing issues ==
Although representations are possible and complimentary.. ] (]) 12:00, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


Hello. I want to expand stub articles on Misplaced Pages without being blocked for copyright violations of close paraphrasing. I have been reading ] and I want to add information from the ] and Texas Escapes magazine into the articles I have created or expanded. I have read the template in that section with the title "Example: close paraphrasing repaired", where it says to bring in other sources and "read source information, preferably taking notes to extract essential points, and write a summary in your own words, thereby producing an acceptable version." Although the Handbook of Texas has "fair use" guidelines, I want to write paragraphs that bring together information from two sources, without maintaining the previous sentence structure or style. How can I go about doing that, or should I not do that at all? I haven't edited on Misplaced Pages much, so I want to get some guidance. Thank you. ] (]) 19:53, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:@] The only ISBN I can see on ] references is 1892515032 which is . Can you clarify what you think is the problem with this? ] (]) 12:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::Apologies, after two clicks the web page of the google book loaded ] (]) 16:55, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


:<small>(had to battle my way through a IP spam army)</small> Essentially, if it's not fair use, than ]; I would suppose, given they have a copyright over the latest edition of their handbook, trying a earlier one (or rather, look for any excerpts out there). <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 23:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
== Misplaced Pages Article Section Heading "Capitalisation" ==
:Although I should note that you were advised last year over this issue. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 23:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::Hello, {{u|Colman2000}}. When I am trying to summarize some pretty complex sources while avoiding close paraphrasing, I use old fashioned techniques like those described in ], and actually use pen and paper, working usually with a ] or maybe with some excess papers from a computer printer that have something irrelevant printed on the back side. As I read the source material for the second or third time, I jot down phases that serve to remind me of the most important points. In general, they may seem vague to other people but are thematic and serve to later remind me of something important. Sometimes, they may be brief and factual like "died NYC 1892 heart attack". They may resemble ] or the briefest summaries of the results of such search terms. Everything I write has a ] function to me. It may make little sense to anyone else, but these phrases are "reminders" to me and me alone of what I believe the most important points are about the content I plan to summarize. When my jottings are done, I then take a break and do something else for an hour or two. Then, I sit down with my rough notes and summarize in full prose what I learned from the sources. Then, I fact check my own writing and also verify that I have truly written in my own words instead of duplicating through memory the work of the original author. I may forget 95% of the wording of the original material but some striking phrase may stick in my mind. If so, I can include that brief content accurately in quotation marks, attributed to the original source. I hope that this helps. ] (]) 08:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


== Edit reverted by viewmont viking ==
Hello! Sorry to bother you guys! I have checked the "frenquently Asked Questions" section, but I can only seem to find the general article on "Capitalisation", i.e. ]


Hello, I am Olliebowen28. I am a new-ish user, and one of my first edits was to the Mankato west high school page. I added the school fight song lyrics and tune to the page. Then, some guy named Viewmont Viking came along and reverted it. The only reason he provided is, "WP is not a webhost." Being a new user, I have no idea what that means. I posted several comments explaining why my edit belongs in wikipedia, and I asked what "WP is not a webhost" means. He never responded to any of my comments, and in desperation for his attention, I reverted his edit of reverting my edit. I put in the description of my edit to look at the talk page comments, and he never looked nor explained. He also posted a few comments on my talk page, linking articles about wikipedia guidelines. None of them applied to my edit. All I ask is that my contribution not be reverted again, or if my contributions did violate some guideline that you explain what guideline was broken and how it can be fixed so that it doesn't.
I need a link that I can quote for an editor's page indicating how section titles in Misplaced Pages articles should be capitalised. I have seen a number of people assert that only the first word of a section title should begin with a capital, i.e. "===Longest connections strategy===", and not ""===Longest Connections Strategy==="". However, I have never been able to pin-point the actual Misplaced Pages policy which states that this rule exists. This "Capitalisation" issue has been raised in a Misplaced Pages article talk forum that I am working on at the moment . I told them I would ask this "help desk" forum for a link to the relevent policy.


Can you please help us? ] (]) 12:10, 22 March 2024 (UTC) Many thanks, ] (]) 22:25, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:], ]. Best,<span id="Usedtobecool:1711109746591:WikipediaFTTCLNHelp_desk" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;''']'''&nbsp;] 12:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)</span>
:@] The easiest way to find such advice in the search system is to prefix your search term with "WP:" so that the system will look in the correct ]. Hence instead of reaching ] in article space you would have reached ] where the advice you needed is located. ] (]) 12:49, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


:Contents in Misplaced Pages articles need to be ] in reliable sources, therefore informations that might not be significant enough to get coverage from reliable sources typically wouldn't be included due to the difficulty in finding sources for them. You should provide citation for the content you added, otherwise other editors would not be able to check its reliability. ] (]) 22:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks for the assistance that both of you have given me. It has been invaluable.] (]) 13:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for your reply. I will try to find a reliable source ] (]) 22:55, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@], the lyrics to the school's fight song might be protected by copyright. But even if they aren't, they're trivia, not something that belongs in an encyclopedia article. ]&nbsp;] 23:15, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Hello, @]. See ]; the implication is that the other user believed that the material you added was not encyclopaedic.
:::Quite apart from that, there is the question of copyright: you may not insert copyright material into a Misplaced Pages article, unless it has been explicitly released or licensed appropriately.
:::One more point: you are ], and you must stop. Irrespective of right and wrong, edit-warring is forbidden. ] (]) 23:16, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::Hello, {{u|OllieBowen28}}, only US song lyrics published over 95 years ago are sure to be in the public domain. My quick Google search shows that Mankato West High School was founded in 1951. If that is accurate, then it is likely that the song lyrics are still copyright protected. Even if they are in the public domain for some reason, most high school song lyrics are banal, routine and predictable. So, unless reliable published sources independent of the high school have commented on the innovative and unique nature of these lyrics, then they do not belong in this encyclopedia. ] (]) 08:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


== fake disambiguation page == == Women's Sports Network ==


Considering creating a draft article for Women's Sports Network, a ] service. For some reason the title is blacklisted. Anyone know the reason why? ] (]) 23:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
] is a fake disambiguation page. If its an article about the name we probably shouldn't be listing everyone with that name, right? Those belong in ] (if they belong anywhere, a link that lists all articles starting with Nancy would make more sense). ] (]) 13:53, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Esolo5002}} Are you sure that's the exact title you tried? Your post here used a normal apostrophe which is allowed but a similar character is disallowed. Compare ] (allowed) and ] (disallowed). ] (]) 23:26, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


==]==
Same problem over at ]. ] (]) 13:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Please help with reference number 9 - "journal" comes up as red. Please repair and Im sorry - I did not do this mistake/citation. I saw the red ink. Thanks ] (]) 23:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


:{{already done}} - There was a missing journal parameter; you're welcome. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 23:26, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:@] I think that both the articles are supposed to be ]s, where each has a section at the top giving some background about the use of the name. ] is a ] and includes lots of topics which are not given names of people, e.g. ] and ], where the name is a surname, not a ]. ] (]) 17:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


= January 16 =
== New Entry for Photographer Susan Wood ==


== copyvio ==
Hello. Susan Wood is a published photographer, about to turn 92. Here's her author page on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B07KPLVCR6/about
There are many more references. Who would be an appropriate person to add her information to wikipedia? Thank you so much. Margery ] (]) 14:34, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
: is a good source. ] (]) 14:46, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
: is another. ] (]) 14:47, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:. ] (]) 14:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:. I believe she meets ]. ] (]) 14:48, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::Hi ] and welcome. You could ask at ]. Before writing an article it is necessary to check that the subject is ], which usually means finding coverage in reliable sources which are independent of the subject. The links above are a good start. ] (]) 14:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:::They have a photographers section too, (],) so you can add her to the list there, and include some of the sources to help out whoever wants to make the page. ]&nbsp;.&nbsp;]&nbsp;. 14:59, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::::There used to be ] but it was deleted. I have asked if it . ] (]) 15:00, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::You are so helpful. Thank you so much. I believe she qualifies as Misplaced Pages:Notable. I will add her to the photographer's list, and add sources. If the draft can be undeleted, that would be great. Then additions/corrections can start to be added. I really appreciate your help! ] (]) 15:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Hi. This is my first time adding anything to Misplaced Pages. I added Susan Wood to the American Photographers section of Women in Red, but it turned blue, not red, so I hope I don't get booted out. Any other tips are so appreciated! ] (]) 15:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::I created the article here ] you are free to expand and improve it. ] (]) 16:24, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::Wonderful!!! Thank you so much!! ] (]) 16:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


Stumbled across this article: ]. Aside from questioning its notability, the article is practically verbatim from a direct primary source with 80% copyvio, here: and and reads like a resume. Is there a template that can be placed on the article stating this or something similar to invite editors to clean-up / re-write the article with secondary sources in their own words? There is already a "BLP sources" at the header. Maybe that's enough? ] (]) 00:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
== Idealogical Bias? ==
:Definitely a copyvio situation. While our article predates the earliest Internet Archive copies of those two sources, the earliest version of our article is a verbatim copy of the musician's website of the time. See https://web.archive.org/web/20040204000620/http://www.michaelhabermann.com/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Michael_Habermann&oldid=24277064 There is no copyright mention on the musician's website so we have to assume it is copyrighted. There are only minor differences between the current article and the initial 2005 version, so in my opinion this is a ] situation. the entire article should be deleted as a copyvio, and recreated with independent sources if warranted. ] (]) 01:51, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
::His current page, https://www.michaelhabermann.com/ is copyrighted 2001, and the ABOUT MICHAEL HABERMANN subpage, https://www.michaelhabermann.com/about/_index.html is unchanged from the version we copied in 2005. ] (]) 01:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Nominated as a copyvio ] at ]. ] (]) 02:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC)


== Do not see edit button ==
When reading some articles, it is very clear there is an idealogical, most specifically a political, bias. Wiki says that there is no centralized editing, but who has the final say in editing? If I wanted to edit someone else's page to be more 'fair' in its political bias, I imagine someone will come along behind me and reverse my edit, resulting in a never-ending edit war. How is this handled? I believe Wiki pages should be honest and fair in their content so as to not rewrite or spin history. I can cite some examples of the idealogical/political bias if needed. ] (]) 15:09, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:Please cite some examples. We handle this by ] and sometimes requesting ] from the wider ]. Also see ]. ] (]) 15:11, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::i resent the implicit bias inherent in your statement in that it encompasses only this point in space time and utterly omits to encompass other continuities based on alternate physical laws based upon ypotehtical dimensions which may or may not exist. ] (]) 16:03, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:Umm, "edit someone else's page"? One's user page sort of belongs to the associated user, with limits. But article pages don't belong to anyone, so it doesn't mean anything to write "Edit someone else's page". ] (]) 15:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


I do not see an edit button when I log in. Have I been blocked? If so, why? ] (]) 01:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:No-one has "the final say" on any article. Every article is in a sense unfinished, because more relevant information might emerge about its subject; its contents is agreed and if appropriate modified by ongoing processes of applying the ] and reaching ], which can be used to correct any noticed bias.
:You are not blocked. If you were you would not have been able to edit this page. ] (]) 02:00, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:Note, however, that idealogical and political biases are subjective, so people with different worldviews can sincerely disagree about them. Generally, Misplaced Pages strives to present every subject using a ], and aims for ] from ], not '].' {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ] (]) 17:40, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:@]: There are some pages that have certain levels of protection. Did you see a lock icon by the top-right corner of the page? An exception I'm aware of is the main page, which is ], or administrator-only. —]&nbsp;(&nbsp;]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]&nbsp;) 02:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
::wikipedia has a clear bias in favor of the overriding views which arise from the specific set of humans who reside in the world and have empircial data arising from it. ] (]) 16:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:If you can share what pages you were looking at, we could confirm if they are indeed protected which might prevent you from editing. Depending on what device/brower/skin you're using instead of an edit button you might see something like "view source" and if you see that, then there is a very high likelyhood the page you want to edit has been protected, often because of vandalism, and things such as recent political events or global news are often falling into this category. If you want to see something changed on those pages, you can make a ] on the talk page of the article. When you do that, please be specific on you want "X changed to Y" and provide reliable sources to support that change. ]&thinsp;] 15:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:Did you mean "ideological"? ] (]) 17:36, 25 March 2024 (UTC)


== Question related to Speedy deletion criteria ==
== how to make a wiki page for someone? ==


Does ] apply if the disambiguation page has other red links? E.g. there is a ship name index page and there is one ship with an article but another without an article yet(however there is a link to it's ship class's article) ] (]) 03:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm trying to make a wiki page for someone ] (]) 15:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:That does not sound like G14 because it's not an obvious and not-reasonably-debatable case. It sounds like there are at least two entries that have bluelink, even if one is only for an article about a broader topic. Could that broader-topic page specifically mention this specific example, such that this example's red-link be made a redirect to it (and therefore blue)? All that takes is one ref. Are there enough refs available you could write a small stub-article? ] (]) 05:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:See ] ] (]) 15:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::And be aware that it won't be a "wiki page for someone"; arguably, there is no such thing. It will be an encyclopedia article about someone. And if it passes muster as an article here, virtually anybody will be able to come in and edit it. The edits might not be to your liking or to the liking of the subject of the article (supposing that the subject is still with us). But if the edits are relevant and well-supported in reliable sources, there won't be much either of you can do about it. ] (]) 15:06, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


== Regarding ==
== Userpage display title ==


How do I let newcomers know that they can ask me questions like the link? <span style="font-family:monospace; font-weight: bold"> <span style="color:ForestGreen;font-size:1.15em"> ]</span> (<span style="color:#324c80">she/they</span> {{pipe}} ]) </span> 04:10, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello, Will My userpage display title work with Lower case letters? if it works give me an example! thanks ] ] (]) 17:17, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


:@] You sign up as a mentor! See ]. ] (]) 10:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:@] No, I don't think so. I edited your Userpage in the displaytitle part to change it to "Mal Maldive" or "Mal maldive" or "mal maldive" and in each case on preview got an error message saying that this wouldn't work "as it is not equivalent to the actual title". The error message directed me to ]. ] (]) 17:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::Oh! Ok then. {{happy face}} ] (]) 17:32, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|MAL MALDIVE}} It's possible to get the same effect with <code>text-transform: lowercase</code>. This works: <code><nowiki>{{DISPLAYTITLE:<span style="color:#AAA9AD; font-weight:bold; font-family:Brush Script MT;">User:M<span style="text-transform: lowercase;">AL</span> M<span style="text-transform: lowercase;">ALDIVE</span></span>}}</nowiki></code>. Only use it in your own userspace and accept that you may miss pings if users try to type the username on your user page instead of copy-pasting it. ] (]) 17:51, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::::oh ok {{happy face}} ] (]) 18:26, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


== Reference formatting ==
== Citing a radio programme whose URL will only last for a short time ==


I am not an expert on the different ways of laying out references, but the way it is done at the end of ] looks really strange to me. It starts with standard refs, then switches to a form that has reference numbers (to those earlier refs) with page numbers. Is this an acceptable form of referencing, or does it need to be fixed? I will be interested to learn... ] (]) 10:24, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
I need to cite a segment of a BBC World Service programme from 16 Mar 2024, which will only remain available via the Web for another 23 days. The programme is currently available at:


:Hypothesis: It's an attempt to avoid using in-line ] while technically perhaps not mixing reftag/sfn citing. It looks very weird and IMO still goes against at least the spirit of ]. ] (]) 11:00, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172z37rvf2h7m5
::I didn't really feel that the footnote template worked very well but haven't come across the Reference page template until now. I'll revise those on the Karma Paul page. Thanks for flagging it up. ] (]) 11:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:@], do you wish to comment? ] (]) 11:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{ping|Babybrew6}} Ah, that looks so much better now. Much easier to read. Thanks for being so responsive, and thanks {{u|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}}.--] (]) 23:06, 16 January 2025 (UTC)


== Help! Rail-interchange ==
How do I do this?
I want to add a new rail-interchange template for the red line of Namma metro (displayed here ]), but couldn't seem to figure out how others were added. I searched everywhere but could not find anything. ]; 14:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC)


:I think you would do better to ask at ] (which has not so far been created) or perhaps better still to add an ] at ] ] (]) 15:33, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks ] (]) 17:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::That page has not been created because the various documentation subpages just detail region-specific codes for the rail-interchange template, all of these different doc subpages exist to avoid having a massive and hard to navigate documentation page. Also, those links go to ].
::I agree that the best option is to add an edit request to ]. ]] 20:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:::<small>Oops! I thought TT was a standard shortcut for "Template Talk". </small> ] (]) 23:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Ngl, that redirect to Tatar wikipedia caught me off gaurd. Thank you for the responses though, it helped. ]; 03:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


== How to re-enable alerts on new in-links pointing to a given article ==
: {{Ping|Misha Wolf}} Use {{Tl|Cite episode}}. It doesn't matter that the programme will eventually not be available, but you might do better to use the URL https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w172z37rvf2h7m5 -- <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 21:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for that. Is there no way to preserve access to the audio? Do any of the archiving mechanisms enable one to do this?
::Thanks again. ] (]) 22:31, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I've now added the citation at the end of the 5th para of ]. Please could someone tell me whether I got it right. Thanks!
:::PS: I'd still like to use a mechanism which makes the interview remain accessible, if such a mechanism is available. ] (]) 23:27, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::::You can add an archive URL, like https://web.archive.org/web/20240316074330/https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w172z37rvf2h7m5 ] (]) 01:56, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|CodeTalker}} - would that archive preserve the audio recording, or just the HTML page?--] (]) 06:48, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::I think it preserves the audio, but I'm not positive. Comparing the HTML for the original page against the archived copy, I can see that the archive has rewritten some of the HTML and in particular, where the original refers to files on the BBC web site (like javascript files and font files), the archive refers to corresponding files on archive.org, which have presumably been copied from the BBC site. However after a quick scan, I haven't located exactly where the audio file is accessed, either by the original or the archived copy. Given that the archive has copied at least some of the original files linked to the HTML, I would guess that it has copied all of them, but I can't confirm that definitively. ] (]) 07:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Clicking on the Play button of the archived web page at the Wayback Machine seems to result in an endless spinning circle and no sound. :( ] (]) 12:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Trying again, I'm managing to get some short snippets of sound, but the playback soon stops, with the message "This content doesn't seem to be working.". ] (]) 12:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Examining the network requests made when accessing the page, it looks to me like the recording is transferred in multiple pieces which are then put back together for playback. Presumably, the Wayback Machine doesn't know how to handle that. ] 15:34, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Thanks! ] (]) 16:07, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


I received an alert (Bell icon) about a new in-link targeting article FOO that I follow, and clicked in the alert to go to the Foo-linking article. At least, that's what I wanted to do, but in reality, I mistakenly clicked something in the message that caused a message to appear saying "You will no longer be notified about in-links to FOO". How do I undo this? I still want to be notified when editors add links to FOO from other articles. I checked FOO, and I am still a watcher.
== Inclusion of presidents of an organization ==


I searched around, but couldn't find how to undo this. At one point, I landed at ], but that's not it. (A hatnote added to the top of that page linking wherever the right page is would be helpful to other users who encounter this.)
It seems very common to have a listing of presidents or heads in the Misplaced Pages article about an organization. For example, ], ], ], ], ], etc etc. Another user is insisting on a list of presidents that has been in an article for years, despite how common this seems to be. Is this covered by any guideline or manual of style? ] (]) 18:35, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:As always, the first question to ask is to what extent independent WP:RS consider it significant. That's how we determine the merits of including content in general. We don't have guidelines for applying standard practice to every specific question. That would be both unnecessary, and impossible. ] (]) 18:40, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::@] If I felt very strongly about the article in question, I'm sure I could find reliable sources that mention who the president is, but I doubt I could find significant coverage for the list as a whole, for this or almost any other article. It seems odd to me that these lists appear to be almost standard in articles about organizations but can be removed if anyone decides they don't like it. ] (]) 19:41, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I see you have already began discussions on the article talk page. If such discussions can't reach a consensus, you could try some form of ]. What is unlikely to happen though is some sort of general agreement regarding whether articles on organisations must include a list of presidents. Misplaced Pages doesn't work like that, or at least, it isn't supposed to. We are supposed to base decisions regarding what content we include on how sources do it, and not on our own set of arbitrary rules. ] (]) 20:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:You can check ] for various guidance regarding lists although there are many other guidance that may be applicable to the discussion. I suggest not having the discussion in two places at the same time, plus the help desk is not an appropriate place to have content discussions, but rather guidance. Sincerely, <span style="border-radius:8em;padding:0 7px;background:orange">]</span> ] 21:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::@] @] I'm really not trying to have a content discussion here. I thought there might be a manual of style for organizations or something like that. Thanks for your answers. ] (]) 22:19, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


As a corollary, on the analogy of email unsubscribe-confirmed messages that provide a 'Resubscribe' link in case you just made a mistake and never intended to unsubscribe, a small, added, <em><u>Undo alert removal</u></em> link added to the you-will-no-longer-be-notified message that would undo the action would be nice. Where would I propose that? Thanks, ] (]) 20:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
== Redirect ==
:Go to your preferences. On '''Notification''' tab, at bottom under '''Muted pages for page link notifications''', click the '''X''' on the article you have muted to restore notifications, then '''Save'''.{{pb}}When I tested muting a notification for page links, there was a brief pop-up that told me I could manage them in preferences, but it's easy for that to disappear before you read it. ]&nbsp;] 20:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:: {{u|Schazjmd}}, thanks so much for this. I did actually swing by the preferences page and even the notifications tab, but obviously I didn't scroll down far enough. While looking at all the options visible upon first view of that page above the fold—even scrolling down 80% of the page—they are all site-wide options, not page-specific, and I reasoned that this page was wholly about site-wide options, and didn't scroll down that last little bit, so I missed that last part at the very bottom, and clicked away too soon. (That pref page tab might benefit by a small link above the fold, mentioning the possibility of page-specific options at the bottom.) Anyway, I've undone the muting on that page, and in the bargain I discovered two other pages that are muted, much to my surprise and annoyance, and against my preference, as I never even knew alerts were blocked for those. Probably tons of users have pages muted from alerts that they are not even aware of.
:: And yeah, that pop-up is too brief—do you have any idea where should one go to propose a change to the pop-up, maybe to have a longer time-out, a dismiss icon, and an <u>Undo</u> link? Some project here or at ]? If Phab, what project? ] (]) 23:57, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I don't, @], sorry. I agree that it could use some work; if I hadn't been looking for something to tell me where to go, I would have missed it. Interestingly, when I did the test, I found that I had other pages muted as well, although I don't recall ever doing so. ]&nbsp;] 00:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Hello, @]. I would start at ] - the folks there might direct you somewhere else. ] (]) 13:45, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


== Language Addition ==
I am trying to remove the page link redirect for 'verticalscope'. I work for VerticalScope and we are not owned by Torstar. I created a page for VerticalScope and removed the redirect link, but it appears they were undone right away. Can you assist please? ] (]) 18:49, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|Msalernovscope}}, I recommend that you create a ''draft'' for verticalscope; and once you think it's fit for publication, you submot it for review. If a reviewer accepts it, it'll be their job to deal with the redirect you refer to. I also recommend that such a draft should give its readers some idea of what it is that verticalscope sells to its customers. ] (]) 20:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Msalernovscope}} One of your edit summaries says "verticalscope is not part of torstar anymore". please remember that we are as interested in history as current affairs. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 21:04, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::Understood. I'm trying to make sure that people searching for VerticalScope don't end up on the torstar page. It's not currently relevant and is only historically relevant. ] (]) 21:56, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:::To be frank, Misplaced Pages does not care whether people searching for something find only historical relevance. ''If'' VerticalScope meets Misplaced Pages's criteria for ], then there could be an article about it; otherwise the redirect is appropriate.
:::Having said that: if you can find a ] that says that VerticalScope is no longer part of Torstar, you are welcome to make an ] on ] recording that fact, and citing the source. Then at least the target of the redirection will clarify that this is no longer the case. ] (]) 22:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


] ] ]
== how to edit/add info to Alexis M Herman's profile for accuracy. ==
Hey,


I have made several articles over the past 24 hours that are have been available in other languages before I made the English Misplaced Pages page. How do I add the languages to the wiki, so people can select their language?
the ] profile box the article lists Kathryn O. Higgins as Deputy Secretary but omits Dr. Edward B. Montgomery who held the Deputy position 2000-2001. Higgins served 1997-1999 ] (]) 19:28, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
Thanks


] (]) 23:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
: {{Ping|Curtainrriaw}} Do you have a ] for that? If so, ]! I've left some links, to guidance pages, on ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 21:01, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:@], your question has been answered at the Teahouse. Please don't post the same question in multiple places, thanks. ]&nbsp;] 23:53, 16 January 2025 (UTC)


== Cannot see article I wrote. ==
== Article Issue ==


Hey,
Hi, I wanted to ask something. I have an article that I want to upload but when I go to create it, it says that it has been deleted a number of times. The article is just a battle I wanted to add, and it is not anything bad. Shall I upload it anyway or not? ] (]) 19:33, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


I wrote the article ] today and published it. I am now trying to search for it and it won't come up automatically unless I copy/paste the title or if I go to see all results.
:] this would depend on the article in question. An article may have been deleted for reasons unrelated to ]. What article are you trying to create? If you are unsure whether the topic should be included in English Misplaced Pages, you can start it as a ]. ] (] &#8226; ]) 20:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::Hi, I just checked, and it got deleted twice due to ] Can i still try to make an article on it or not? I don't want to get in any trouble. Thanks. ] (]) 20:29, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:::@] Yes, the deletion was because the article was created by a blocked user. However, you are a newcomer and I strongly suggest you begin by improving existing articles first to get to know how things work here. If you are determined to go ahead, please read ] and ]. ] (]) 21:04, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Ok, thanks! ] (]) 22:06, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


This hasn't happened before so i am unsure what is going on.
== Misplaced Pages Simple English vs. Misplaced Pages the 💕 ==


Thanks ] (]) 23:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
For some unknown reason, the Misplaced Pages page I created ended up on '''Misplaced Pages Simple English'''. When I tried making another User Page with a different User ID in '''Misplaced Pages the 💕''', that entry was deleted by the editors. I tried several times but each time it got deleted. Do you think it is because I already have a User Page on '''Misplaced Pages Simple English'''? The content of my page is similar to many other Misplaced Pages pages I have viewed for my academic colleagues. Thank you for your help. ] (]) 20:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Electricsnake247}} ] says: "The second index to consider is the fuzzy auto-complete title search. This index is updated once a day and mirrors what was found in the full-text search index at the time the index was updated. Depending on timing a new page could take two days to be found in the fuzzy title autocomplete." ] (]) 00:00, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


= January 17 =
:@] Your show only the one edit here. I can only conclude that all your other edits have been removed by admins, including some you may have made on the Simple English project. Rules do differ by language version but the principles will be the same. As the messages on your Talk Page states, the expectation for UserPages here is that they will comply with ]. Some latitude may be given for long-term editors. ] (]) 20:59, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::.... P.S. You do appear to exist on , which is not unusual if you have published as an academic. Please ''do not'' try to create an ], for the reasons explained at that link. ] (]) 21:10, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


== I need help... again. ==
:@] Your user page here was deleted because it wasn't appropriate. I suggest you read the ] you have already been pointed to on your talk page. A user page is not an article, and should not be presented as if it is one. If your colleagues have actual Misplaced Pages articles written about them, that is (or should be) because they meet our notability standards, and cite the necessary independent sourcing. ] (]) 21:02, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|MichaelPietrusewskyJr}} ] shows your account only has edits here at the English Misplaced Pages. Maybe ] without "Jr" at the end is another account by you. It has edits at the Simple English Misplaced Pages, creating a page at ]. See ] for their guideline about user pages which has differences from our ]. Edits at the Simple English Misplaced Pages are unlikely to affect the treatment of your edits here. If you are trying to create an autobiography in our encyclopedia and not a user page for your account then see ]. ] (]) 21:25, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


How do I add a file from another Misplaced Pages? ] (]) 00:40, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
==Question about removing false accusations==
{{rf|Misplaced Pages talk:Administrative action review}}


:You mean a existing image from another language of Misplaced Pages? <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 00:42, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
How to delete false accusations against any sexual activity or any remarks. ] (]) 21:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::yes ] (]) 00:53, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::That's what I mean. ] (]) 00:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::::If you link the pic you have in mind, editors here might be able to tell you if it's possible to use that pic on en-WP. ] (]) 07:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:In any case, ] for information on how to add them to a article. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 00:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:The only images that can be displayed on English Misplaced Pages pages are ones that are here on enwiki or are on commons. You cannot display an image here from another language's wikipedia. But (depending on the file's license and how you plan to use it) you might be able to download the file from that other language and then upload it here on enwiki or maybe to commons. ] (]) 05:10, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::I plan to place it on the infobox in an English translation of ]. ] (]) 14:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::You mean ? <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 15:17, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::This pic? If so, when/if your translation is accepted in article space, you can upload it locally on en-WP. If that happens, go to ] and chose "Upload a non-free file". > "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use" > "This is the official cover art of a work." ] (]) 15:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


== Adding City Officials and Job Description ==
:It's hard to answer you clearly, because you do not give any details (though I understand that there may be good reasons for this).
:If there is a problem with an article about you or involving you, please see ].
:If there is information which you think is wrong please open a discussion on the talk page of the relevant article.
:If there is information which you think might be harmful or dangerous to somebody, please email the Oversight team: see ]. ] (]) 22:22, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


I am attempting to add the city's elected Officials Treasurer and Clerk, however I am stumped on to include them. ] (]) 01:17, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
== False accusations ==


:Treasurer and clerk are usually not included in an article about a city due to the relative lack of coverage these positions received. If some notable individual has or had served in one of these roles, you can mention their time in office by adding ] as a module of the existing infobox. ] (]) 06:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Sexual abuse of a minor ! ] (]) 22:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
::This user appears to be a ] centered solely on editing the article for ]. ] (]) 06:27, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


== Copying from GFDL-only Misplaced Pages ==
:See my reply just above.
:Note that my answer is all about material in Misplaced Pages. If your question is not about Misplaced Pages, then we cannot help here. - ] (]) 22:23, 22 March 2024 (UTC)


Copying from GFDL-only sources is prohibited. However, does this extend to Misplaced Pages when it was GFDL-only? In other words, is it prohibited to copy from a pre-2009 Misplaced Pages edit to an article today? If not, why? ]<sub>]<sub>]</sub></sub> (]/]) 04:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
= March 23 =
:Hello, {{u|JJPMaster}}. I think that ] and its references should answer most of your questions. In brief, special arrangements were made in the phase-out of GFDL licensing from Misplaced Pages, and I do not fully understand all those provisions. ] (]) 07:23, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


== Correct value of page= parameter when citing a journal via a compilation of an entire volume ==
== How do I decide when to obey another editor? ==


Hi, apologies if some of my terminology is off, but I'm trying to figure out what the proper way is to cite an article within a journal where the source available online is a compilation of an entire volume of the journal, with its own page numberings. The source in question is at ; the article is on page 456 of volume 14, but presumably the article's page number when issue 28 was distributed on its own was different. There doesn't seem to be any obvious way to distinguish whether the reference is citing the article within the volume as a whole or an individual issue of the volume.
Often an editor tells me to do something, or not to do something, but rarely, if ever, does the person tell me why I have to obey the person. The person doesn't show a badge (e.g. of being an admin) of some kind, or tell me tell me how it's the person's job to supervise me, or a particular page.


I've gone with this for now, but I'm not sure if this is correct: {{code|<nowiki>{{cite journal |last1=Taylor |first1=J.N. |title=Organic Chemicals |journal=World Trade Notes on Chemicals and Allied Products |date=13 July 1940 |volume=14 |issue=28 |page=456 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jdseHwBxG5YC&pg=PA456 |access-date=17 January 2025 |publisher=] |location=Washington, D.C. |language=en}}</nowiki>}}.
Is it whoever has more edits has more authority?


Thank you! ] 17:21, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Do people who answer help requests on my talk page have more authority than a random editor? Are there ranks below admin who also must be obeyed?


:] you should give the page number in the edition that you are using. I may be wrong, but I believe that the page number would have been the same in both versions when the journal was issued in 1940 so that the citation based on an individual issue and based on the bound volume would be the same. ] (]) 17:42, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Sometimes an editor will threaten me vaguely by saying "You might get blocked soon if you continue acting like this." How can I evaluate whether the threat/warning has been pulled out of thin air? ] (]) 06:44, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:
:Usually you can just ask for more information. Don't think of it as "obeying", think of it as listening to a wise colleague who helps you. And be grateful for their help. They are '''not''' your enemy. ] (]) 07:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:Looks more like a newsletter, or something similar, than a peer-reviewed academic or scholarly journal so I would use {{tlx|cite periodical}} (an alias of {{tlx|cite magazine}}) and {{para|periodical}}. As above, cite the source that you consulted; how the individually distributed issue was paginated is irrelevant if you did not consult that issue.
:{{ping|Polar Apposite}} It seems like you might misunderstand how Misplaced Pages is intended to work. Misplaced Pages is fundamentally a collaborative project, so (in theory) nobody has any more say than anybody else about anything. You, and everyone else, are not required to obey any particular people. This is not to say that you can do whatever you like, however – the community may, through ], create ] outlining what is expected of every editor. Administrators do not create these policies on their own, and they are not the only people who are allowed to enforce the policies: everyone can, and many do, through actions like reverting edits (and the community as a whole can, again through consensus, even use measures such as ]). The community simply trusts administrators to have an excellent understanding of the policies, and so grants them the technical ability to enforce those policies through more potent means such as blocks and page protection. With that (hopefully) explained, I think it will be easier to answer your questions:
:—] (]) 18:14, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:*No, nobody has any more authority than anyone else. There are plenty of people with a fairly limited number of edits who really know what they are doing, and likewise there are of course people with a large number of edits who have a poor understanding of policy.
::Thanks to you and ] both for clearing that up. I'll switch it to the periodical template -- I was uncertain between the two. ] 18:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:*No and no, and your assumption that anyone has to obey administrators is also somewhat mistaken – you have to obey policies, not editors.
::: {{u|Jokullmusic}}, agree with both of the above. I would add the following, which may help if you have similar questions in the future. Think about the bottom line, namely, why do we have these citation templates in the first place: it is to ensure ], and in the case of any given citation, it is to answer the question: "How do I get an interested user to the right place so that they can see that the content in the article is backed up by this source?" So whatever you are looking at, tell the user exactly how to get there, including the page number if applicable, but also: if there are multiple ISBN's for hardback, paperback, etc., give them the one for your item; if you are looking at the second edition, then include {{para|edition|2}}; if you are looking at the 2025 publication of an anthology first published in 1940, give them {{para|date|2025}} and the current publisher, location, and page number of that one, and if you wish, optionally add the {{para|orig-date|1st pub. Old_Publisher:1940}} which lets the reader know that the one you found was not the original, and allows them to delve deeper, if they wish. ] (]) 19:59, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:*Such editors will nearly always provide a link to a policy they believe you are violating. If, after reading that page, you agree that you were violating the policy, just stop doing that thing. If you disagree, you should discuss with that editor, <u>''and stop doing that thing in the meantime''</u> (that goes equally even if they don't mention blocks). There are sometimes really good reasons to ] (not frequently, though) – in this case, again, discuss with the other editor(s), and stop in the meantime.
:] (]) 07:25, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Tollens}} Reading their talkpage, it may be wise to advise them to listen to everyone who gives them advice. ] (]) 07:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Of course – I didn't mean to imply otherwise. ] (]) 09:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::::{{u|Polar Apposite}}, you should obey any editor's advice to you when the editor is basing their advice on ]. You should be prepared to defend your edits against criticism based on those same policies and guidelines. Authority on Misplaced Pages derives from demonstrating understanding and knowledge of and participation in Misplaced Pages's broadest purposes. New editors with a narrow focus on a specific controversial topic area often have a difficult time on this website. Generalist editors motivated by the overall goal of improving this neutrally written encyclopedia tend to thrive on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 10:22, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::I'm a generalist editor aren't I? I normally just do copyediting. So why am I getting attacked? ] (]) 17:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::{{ping|Polar Apposite}} You are not getting attacked. People are trying to help you, even it doesn't feel that way. Listen to everyone who gives you advice. the rabbit knows whats up. ] (]) 20:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)


== Assistance with posting a link with a bracket in the URL==
== Missing links? ==
Maybe im just making a mistake, but whenever i attempt to include links such as this: https://californiarevealed.org/search?search_api_fulltext=&f=search_page_series_title:Shades%20of%20Fresno%20Collection in the external links page and add the text afterwards it doesn't fully work. I believe this is because of the brackets in the link itself. Does anyone have a solution so I can include these type of links on Misplaced Pages. Thank you!
] (]) 20:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|NewishIdeas}}, when I switch the search results to show 96 results, the disappears from the url: <nowiki>https://californiarevealed.org/search?search_api_fulltext=&f%5B0%5D=search_page_series_title%3AShades%20of%20Fresno%20Collection&items_per_page=96</nowiki>. ]&nbsp;] 20:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::It hasn't disappeared, it's been encoded to <code>%5B0%5D</code>. See ]. The original page without changing the number of results - if that's important - can be linked . —] 20:25, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::If I am looking at this correctly, it appears you replaced the bracketed zero with %5B0%5D and that fixed the issue? ] (]) 20:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Yes. —] 20:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Thanks a lot I appreciate it! ] (]) 20:53, 17 January 2025 (UTC)


= January 18 =
A recent article about an Indian financial services company, ], was de-ophaned by creating links from dozens of other articles about Indian financial services companies, such as ], ] and ]. These are all shown under "What link here" from Moneyview. But when I look at those other articles, I can't find Moneyview mentioned anywhere. Even viewing their source does not find that anywhere. Before I remove the Orphan tag, I would like to confirm that the links are genuine, but I can't even find them. Please put me out of my misery: what am I missing? ] (]) 07:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:In at least a couple of the "What links here" pages that I looked at, they are listed because they contain the {{tl|Financial technology in India}} template (sometimes aliased as {{tl|FinTech in India}}), which contains a link to MoneyView. ] (]) 07:15, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, {{ping|CodeTalker}} - that makes perfect sense. And I'm a bit embarrassed that I didn't think of it. Is there a way to see what links there explicitly, rather than indirectly through that template?--] (]) 10:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::There is a checkbox "Hide links" on that page, that may help. I'm not sure what it does: (and ] doesn't seem to discuss it). it certainly suppresses all those links from the display, but I don't know if it removes genuine ones as well. ] (]) 10:27, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::::] a Misplaced Pages search for Moneyview gets three hits ], ] and of course Moneyview. ] (]) 10:53, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Good thinking, {{u|TSventon}}, and again I'm a bit embarrassed that I didn't think of it. At least I learned something today!--] (]) 14:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


== Citation numbering ==
== New wikipedia Article creation ==


I added a citation to an existing article, somewhere in the middle. Although the number of the previous citation was something like 18, my added one ended up with 44.
i am new into this and want to create a wikipedia article for one of my friend Dr. Mrs Shailesh Srivastava. Kindly guide me to create the same from start.


I was surprised, assuming everything would automatically renumber. It looks so weird now. Should I have done something to make automatic renumbering happen? ] (]) 02:04, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks & Regards,
:{{ping|Augnablik}} You did right and shouldn't do anything else. Citations can be used multiple times as described at ]. They are automatically numbered by their first appearance. The citations in jump from 18 to 46 but if you click "18" then it says "18. <sup>^ a b c d e</sup>" This means citation 18 is used five times. Each letter is a link to a use. The first use is after citation 17. ] (]) 02:20, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Neelam ] (]) 10:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

:Hello, and welcome to Misplaced Pages.
:I'm afraid there are quite a number of things I need to tell you before directly answering your question.
:First, if you are not Srivastava, you ''must not'' use her name as your account name. All accounts are personal. You do not have to use your real name (I do, but many editors do not) but you must not use somebody else's name. Since you have made only this one edit, the simplest thing is to stop using the account and create a new one for yourself.
:Secondly, creating a new article is one of the most challenging things for an editor to do. {{HD/LTCF}}
:Next, creating an article about somebody you are friends with is regarded as editing with a ]. This is not forbidden, but it does introduce some difficulties, which make the task even harder.
:When you get to the point where you think you are ready to try creating this article, you should read ] as well as the links above. You should start by finding several ] ] which contain ] of her; because if you cannot find such sources, you will know that she does not at present meet Misplaced Pages's criteria for ], and there is no point in trying any further to create an article about her. ] (]) 10:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

== Avoiding an edit war ==

I've flagged a new article for deletion, mostly based on its lack of notability. The author is very unhappy about this and when I added the notability template, they deleted it. I think it needs to be there to show why this article is under consideration for deletion - another editor has also raised the issue - but I feel like if I revert the edit it will only escalate the problem. They've already reported me to ANI and have been commenting quite persistently.

Any advice how to proceed without entering into an endless back and forth? ] (]) 12:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

:Since this is already being discussed at ANI, we don't need to do so here. Edit wars are avoided by not edit warring. ] (]) 13:28, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

::] there is general advice on dealing with disputes at ]. In this case there are discussions at AfD and ANI that may produce some advice. ] (]) 14:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

== Can't find search box ==

Can you help me find the Search Box on the Main Page. It was there yesterday. ] (]) 14:13, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:Click on the magnifying glass near the top right. ] (]) 14:25, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

:The full box disappears when the window is too narrow, leaving the magnifying glass. That's why it changed from day to day. -] (]) 17:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

== Change info when page is blocked ==

Supernatural says there are 6 companion guides but there are 7 9781781161081 ] (]) 15:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

:] is not protected. If you are referring to another article, use its talk page to make an ](click for instructions). ] (]) 15:27, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:From your previous edits, I'm guessing that this is about an article about ], which is indeed ] or an article about one of its seasons. As 331dot says, you can make an edit request. Be sure you can cite a ].
:(Incidentally - I couldn't work out what article you were talking about, and assumed that "Supernatural" was the name of another editor you are having a discussion with. 331dot guessed which article you meant, and I think they guessed wrong. Only by looking at your previous edits did I guess the article I ''think'' you meant. If you want people to help you, why do you make it difficult for them?) ] (]) 15:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

== How does a user know they're blocked? ==

(Sorry, couldn't think where else to ask!)

When a user gets blocked, how do they know – do they get a notification? Does the user interface change somehow, or is there some other visual clue? Or do they just find out when they try to edit (something other than their own talk page) that they can't?

I'm assuming they can still log into their user account normally (and therefore get notifications etc.), even while blocked; or does something change in that respect?

TIA, -- ] (]) 16:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:I am unsure of a full block, but I've ran into a issue with my work IP being blocked as an open proxy before so I can speak from that experience.
:When an edit is attempted while on a blocked IP it pops up a message saying that your IP is blocked, who issued the block and why along with the time remaining on block, and how to possibly correct it.
:] (]) 17:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:You could request a temporary block, find out, come back and tell us {{;)}}<span id="Usedtobecool:1711213552880:WikipediaFTTCLNHelp_desk" class="FTTCmt">—&nbsp;''']'''&nbsp;] 17:05, 23 March 2024 (UTC)</span>
: As far as I can tell you don't get notified until you try to edit something that you can't because of the block. There's ] saying you should get a notification, and its conventional when someone is blocked for the blocking admin to post it to their talk page. ] ] 17:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, all.
::Yeah, the talk page message would be quite an obvious clue (!), assuming of course the user isn't on a device affected by the ] problem.
::@], would you be happy to block me briefly, just so I can see what it's like, as {{u|Usedtobecool}} suggested? (No worries if you'd rather not, though.) -- ] (]) 17:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::: {{ping|DoubleGrazing}} I've blocked you for five minutes. ] ] 17:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks @], appreciated!
::::I didn't get any notification, and nothing else obviously changed either. I remained logged into my account and could navigate around as normal. When I tried to use Twinkle it looked as if it would let me, although no doubt it would have actually refused to make the page edit. Only when I tried to edit a page (I edit via the source) it gave a very obvious message about being blocked, with a big warning sign on it.
::::Now I know. That's one thing off my bucket list! :) Thanks again, -- ] (]) 17:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Well, thanks for sharing.<span id="Usedtobecool:1711215823767:WikipediaFTTCLNHelp_desk" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;''']'''&nbsp;] 17:43, 23 March 2024 (UTC)</span>
::::: {{ec}} One other thing to note: Blocks were in the past subject to ] issues. At one point the only was to communicate at all with an iOS app user was to create an abuse filter that disallowed all of their edits, and the error message was rendered as plaintext (]). I think all of the major issues with the apps and such have been resolved now and it is possible to communicate reasonably. ] ] 17:45, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::Thanks for the extra info, @].
::::::Part of the reason for my question was just idle curiosity. But I've also wondered why some users occasionally think they're blocked, when in fact they're not.
::::::Now I'm off to find an 'I've been blocked' merit badge / user box somewhere... -- ] (]) 17:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Seeing Pppery blocked DoubleGrazing pop on my watchlist certainly got my attention! ] (]) 18:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, they were discussing a matter, and BAM!! Clearly an involved action!<span id="Usedtobecool:1711217476052:WikipediaFTTCLNHelp_desk" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;''']'''&nbsp;] 18:11, 23 March 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::::::::Should we take this to AN, ANI or AARV? ] (]) 18:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::]? -- ] (]) 18:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::In conjunction with the ]. This needs global focus. ] (]) 18:46, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::I don't even bother anymore; ] is far too strong.<span id="Usedtobecool:1711219627627:WikipediaFTTCLNHelp_desk" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;''']'''&nbsp;] 18:47, 23 March 2024 (UTC)</span>
:::::::::::: And I'm not even in that category, although recent events show I clearly belong there. But it would be more pppery-like to nominate it for deletion (I'm just joking here, in truth it's a perfectly reasonable category as user categories go) ] ] 18:49, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ec}}For ''']''': Generally you don't, unless you 1) do something the block prevents you from (In which case you'll see a message like ] or ]), or 2) visit one of several special pages that display blocks, e.g. ] (only for direct account blocks and non-autoblock ip blocks), ] (local blocks only, afaict its search form doesn't find autoblocks unless you enter its #blockid) or ] (afaict doesn't find autoblocks). On some wiki's, including the english Misplaced Pages, there is also 3) via a potentially templated (]) user talkpage notice (only direct, local blocks, not if ] applies). Note that the talkpage notice is optional, LTA socks in particular usally won't get one. {{pb}}Blocks will not prevent you from logging in to Misplaced Pages, ''unless'' you attempt to log into a Wikimedia project where you have not local account yet, if your IP adress is blocked with account creation disabled. {{pb}} For completeness sake, if you account is '']'' on the other hand, you will learn it either 1) when you attempt to log in (it will display ], currently <div style="border:1px solid black;padding:1em 2em">{{int:Centralauth-login-error-locked}}</div>) or 2) when you visit ] or ] (will claim that the account doesn't exist if its actually ]).
::: I personally have been accidentally blocked on other WMF wikis two times. Once I (by coincidence) did not try to edit until another admin noticed the mistaken block and lifted it. The other time I was using AWB on my alt account and triggered an abuse filter that blocked me, which triggered an alert from AWB itself saying the account was blocked and was quite a scary experience (I unblocked the alt account with my main account and continued the AWB run, careful not to trigger than warning again). ] ] 17:37, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

== Page does not appear on Misplaced Pages ==

Hi!
I wrote an entry about 7 months ago, but it does not appear as a Misplaced Pages entry. Why is this and what can I do to expedite the process? ] (]) 17:33, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

:Hi, you only have two edits. One here and one creating your user page ]. That is not a Misplaced Pages article. If you would like to make it such, you should move it to ] and then ]. '''] <sup>(] • ])</sup>''' 17:37, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::You would also need to translate in into English. ] (]) 17:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
::And you would need to add ] to ] covering ''every single fact'' stated in the article, or else remove those facts.
::You would benefit from studying ] and ], which is what you appear to have done. Good luck! {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ] (]) 18:43, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

=== My user page was deleted. ===

I asked a question about a wikipedia entry I had submitted for nomination two days ago. My user profile (] was deleted by an editor (orangemike). The draft I was working was deleted too. Can someone please explain why? ] (]) 21:14, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

:Please see ] above. ] (]) 21:44, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

:If Orangemike (an experienced editor) carried out these deletions, I would have expected him to have explained why to you directly: you can however ask him on his ]. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ] (]) 14:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

== Help with editing/making an article ==

Hello, Wikipedians! I recently turned the redirect ] into an article. However, I have only finished Africa, and request help finishing the rest. ] (]) 18:33, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

:Why would you need this when you could just sort ]? '''] <sup>(] • ])</sup>''' 19:52, 23 March 2024 (UTC)


= March 24 =

== Am I able to upload and use this PMC article's chart? ==

I want to use one of chart to be able to visualize landings, however, I'm unsure if I am able to do so. It states under copyright and license information that, "This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Licence, which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.", however, it also lists above it "Copyright: © 2016 Gonzalez-Pestana A et al." Does this mean I AM able to use the chart, given I cite, or that I am not allowed to because it is under copyright? ] (]) 00:01, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

:You can use it, as long as you attribute it: it is explicitly licensed under (some form of) the ] licence, which is what Misplaced Pages uses. ] (]) 10:40, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

== 23-24 Tranmere Rovers Season Biggest Home And Away Win==

I’m Trying To Add The Biggest Home And Away Win Onto The 23-24 Tranmere Rovers Misplaced Pages Page But I’ve Never Edited A Misplaced Pages Page So Can You Give Some Advice Please. Thanks. ] (]) 12:47, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

:First, you will need to change your username, as it can't be that of the club(even abbreviated). You may change it at ] or ]. ] (]) 12:50, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

:And, ''please'', stop capitalizing the first letter of every word! '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">] <small>]</small></span>''' 12:57, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:Please see ]. If you can find a ] to cite (and I presume you can}, then you can edit ] to add the result, citing the source (see ]).
:But please note that Misplaced Pages maintains a ]. You may add the result, but you may not describe it as "the biggest home and away win ever" or anything like that, unless you are directly quoting an ] (that you cite). Evaluative expressions like that should never occur in Misplaced Pages's voice. ] (]) 13:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:@]: Hi there! You could also start a discussion on the article's talk page, ]. If you are an employee of TRFC or have any other ], you must disclose that information. You could provide the text you think should be added, along with your independent source, and ask a more experienced Wikipedian to add it for you. You could also try the ] if you like. Happy editing! ] (]) 16:17, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

== Repetitions caused by preceding a quote ==

I have maybe a little silly question, definitely a nit picky one; when I'm quoting someone, if the quote begins with the word that precedes the quote as in 'X felt it was best when "when whatever he felt was best"' should I be deleting the when inside the quote or outside? My instinct says one of them should go, especially per ] but I couldn't find further guidance and I'm not yet confident on my reading of the style guide. ] (]) 14:59, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

:@]: I try to keep as much of the quote as possible, so I'd delete the "when" outside the quote. I don't know if there is any guidance in the ] on this. Happy editing! ] (]) 16:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:@] General advice at ] and the essay ]. ] (]) 16:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

== Guidance for handling spam on talk pages? ==

I undid some obvious spam on the talk page of an article (new section added with external IP address link, weird title mentioning invoices, edit made by unregistered user). I looked at a few of the WP help pages regarding spam and vandalism, and I still can't figure out if there is anything else I was supposed to do to handle it properly, or if just undoing the edit is fine. (The user does not appear to have made any additional edits.) ] (]) 15:12, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:Courtesy link: ]. Seems reasonable to me, put an edit summary would have been nice. Please always link to the page in question so that other editors can see what you've done and answer your question in an informed manner. ] (]) 15:21, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! Sorry, about not including the link, I was just being extra cautious of unintentionally directing anyone to the spam link, since it could be malware. ] (]) 15:25, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:::@] If you notice an IP (or an account) has lots of ongoing spam/vandalism edits then as well as reverting them you can report them at ] to ask an admin for a block. Clearly there is little point if the spam was a one-off. ] (]) 16:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

== What can I do when I don't have editing rights other than creating a topic on the talk page ==

Hi, I recently found what I believe is a mistake in the first figure in the article about lowest common ancestors (https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Lowest_common_ancestor.svg). I strongly believe it was a typo in the dot source code of the graph – the arrows all point in the wrong direction. I wanted to fix it, but I do not have editing rights. I created a topic on the talk page (]) two weeks ago explaining why the graph shows descendants instead of ancestors citing standard literature on the topic. I want to stress that I am sure the author who created the figure knows that as later in the article its correct – I really think this was just a typo. However, it should be fixed to not provide a misleading intuition about the concept.

Until now, nobody reacted, which might be normal but as I am new to this I wanted to ask. Also, is there anything else I could do like ping the author or so?

(Also, I suggested an undirected rooted tree could be an even better first image as it is the case most literature on the topic starts with before generalizing it to DAGs, e.g. directed trees. I do not have a strong opinion on that though.) ] (]) 15:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

:@]: Hi there! I see that ] doesn't exist. What message did you receive when you tried to start a discussion?
:Yes, you could try posting on ] or ], but the user hasn't been active since 2016.
:You could also try posting on ] asking people to read your discussion at ] and ask if someone would be willing to update the image if needed. Hope this helps! ] (]) 16:10, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

== No "move" option in my sandbox ==

I've had my account for over a year, and have made more than four edits.  But for some reason, I still don't see the option to "move" (i.e., publish a new article) from my sandbox.  Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! ] (]) 20:56, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

:You need to have 10 edits, you only have 7. Even if you had enough edits, it is highly recommended that you use the draft submission process to first gain experience in having drafts accepted. I've added the information to allow you to do so. ] (]) 21:00, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! I think I was able to publish a draft for review. Two alerts seem to appear on it though. I appreciate the help! ] (]) 21:22, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I think the alerts are because you moved the draft into main article space when they AFC templates were already there. This is not normal: the idea of AFC is that you wait for a reviewer to look at the draft, and either accept it and move it to article space, or decline or reject it.
:::The alerts are drawing reviewers' attention to the fact that it was entered in the AFC process, but then moved, and so may need review.
:::It would probably be a good idea if somebody (@331dot ?) moved it to Draft space so it can await review in the normal manner. ] (]) 21:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

== Officeholder table ==

Hello, so I wrote this officeholder table, but for some reason, the contents of "altofficeholder" won't show up.

===List of chairmen of the Free German Youth===
{{cot|Long table showing the problem}}
{{Officeholder table start
| showorder = y
| showimage = y
| image_title = Portrait
| officeholder_title = Name
| showtitle = n
| showtermstart = y
| showtermend = y
| showtermlenght = y
| showdefencebranch = n
| showparty = y
| showref = n
| showaltofficeholder = y
| alt_officeholder_title = Second Secretary
}}
|-align="center"
! colspan=8| First Secretary of the Central Council of the Free German Youth<br />{{small|{{lang|de|Erster Sekretär des Zentralrates der Freien Deutschen Jugend}}}}
{{Officeholder table
| order2 = 1
| image = Bundesarchiv Bild 183-V00138, Berlin, Erich Honecker, Rede zur Sonnenwendfeier.jpg
| officeholder = ]
| officeholder_sort = Honecker, Erich
| officeholder_note =
| born_year = 1912
| died_year = 1994
| term_start = 7 March 1946
| term_end = 27 May 1955<br />{{small|(reached age limit)}}
| timeinoffice = {{ayd|1946|03|07|1955|05|27}}
| alt_party = Socialist Unity Party of Germany
| alt_officeholder = ] (1946–1949)<br />] (1954–1957)
}}
{{Officeholder table
| order2 = 2
| image = Bundesarchiv Bild 183-61950-0001, 1. Konferenz junger Arbeiter und Aktivisten zur Verwirklichung des Chemieprogramms.jpg
| officeholder = Karl Namokel
| officeholder_sort = Namokel, Karl
| officeholder_note =
| born_year = 1927
| died_year = 1988
| term_start = 27 May 1955
| term_end = 15 May 1959<br />{{small|(not re-elected)}}
| timeinoffice = {{ayd|1955|05|27|1959|05|15}}
| alt_party = Socialist Unity Party of Germany
| alt_officeholder = ] (1954–1957)
}}
{{Officeholder table
| order2 = 3
| image = Bundesarchiv Bild 183-76453-0001, Horst Schumann.jpg
| officeholder = Horst Schumann
| officeholder_sort = Schumann, Horst
| officeholder_note =
| born_year = 1924
| died_year = 1993
| term_start = 15 May 1959
| term_end = 13 May 1967<br />{{small|(reached age limit)}}
| timeinoffice = {{ayd|1959|05|15|1967|05|13}}
| alt_party = Socialist Unity Party of Germany
| alt_officeholder = Dieter Itzerott (1967–1971)<br />] (1966–1967)
}}
{{Officeholder table
| order2 = 4
| image = Bundesarchiv Bild 183-M0928-0043, Berlin, Günther Jahn im Gespräch (cropped).jpg
| officeholder = ]
| officeholder_sort = Jahn, Günther
| officeholder_note =
| born_year = 1930
| died_year = 2015
| term_start = 13 May 1967
| term_end = 9 January 1974<br />{{small|(reached age limit)}}
| timeinoffice = {{ayd|1967|05|13|1974|01|09}}
| alt_party = Socialist Unity Party of Germany
| alt_officeholder = Dieter Itzerott (1967–1971)<br />] (1971–1976)
}}
{{Officeholder table
| order2 = 5
| image = Bundesarchiv Bild 183-N0110-023, Bogensee, Egon Krenz auf FDJ-Beratung.jpg
| officeholder = ]
| officeholder_sort = Krenz, Egon
| officeholder_note =
| born_year = 1937
| died_year =
| term_start = 9 January 1974
| term_end = 1 December 1983
| timeinoffice = {{ayd|1974|01|09|1983|12|01}}
| alt_party = Socialist Unity Party of Germany
| alt_officeholder = ] (1971–1976)<br />Erich Postler (1976–1980)<br />] (1980–1983)
}}
{{Officeholder table
| order2 = 6
| image = Bundesarchiv Bild 183-1989-1116-028, Berlin, Demonstration für FDJ-Erneuerung.jpg
| officeholder = ]
| officeholder_sort = Aurich, Eberhard
| officeholder_note =
| born_year = 1946
| died_year =
| died =
| term_start = 1 December 1983
| term_end = 24 November 1989<br />{{small|(deposed)}}
| timeinoffice = {{ayd|1983|12|01|1989|11|24}}
| alt_party = Socialist Unity Party of Germany
| alt_officeholder = Volker Voigt
}}
{{Officeholder table
| order2 = 7
| image = Noimage.png
| officeholder = Frank Türkowsky
| officeholder_sort = Türkowsky, Frank
| officeholder_note =
| born_year = 1959
| died_year =
| died =
| term_start = 24 November 1989
| term_end = 28 January 1990<br />{{small|(retired)}}
| timeinoffice = {{ayd|1989|11|24|1990|01|28}}
| alt_party = Socialist Unity Party of Germany
| alt_officeholder =
}}
{{Officeholder table
| order2 = 8
| image = Noimage.png
| officeholder = Birgit Schröder
| officeholder_sort = Schröder, Birgit
| officeholder_note =
| born_year = 1965
| died_year =
| died =
| term_start = 28 January 1990
| term_end = 17 March 1991<br />{{small|(retired)}}
| timeinoffice = {{ayd|1990|01|28|1991|03|17}}
| alt_party = Party of Democratic Socialism (Germany)
| alt_officeholder =
}}
{{Officeholder table end}} ] (]) 21:26, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
{{cob}}

:@Maxwhollymoralground, according to the documentation in ], the parameter is called <code>alt_officeholder</code>. You appear to be using <code>altofficeholder</code>, without the underscore. --] (]) 21:55, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
::@ColinFine Thank you, it now shows, but the infobox is skewed. ] (]) 22:16, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

== Linking to a TV show transcript whose URL is not known ==

In ], I'm referencing episode of the Charlie Rose Show. The show's Web page has a "See Transcript" button for revealing the transcript of the show. I'd like to link to the transcript, in order to reference it, but no URL is shown for the transcript itself. In other words, it seems that one can only access the transcript by clicking on the button on the episode's Web page. Any suggestions? Many thanks! ] (]) 21:36, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

:@]: A stroll through the source code of shows that the transcript is at . However, the transcript page lacks the information that the episode page has (e.g., series name, episode name, date, Jonathan's last name) with no link to the episode page. Therefore, I suggest linking to the episode page. ] (]) 22:02, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ec}} Are you referencing the episode or its transcript? Unless for some reason the transcript contains something you want to use that wasn't said on the show, I think what you're actually referencing is probably the episode and ''not'' the transcript, and therefore I'd say the episode and not just the transcript is what you should be linking to. ] 22:03, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, both. My problem is how to draw the attention of the reader to the content of the episode. I've created this Misplaced Pages article, about a person who has been, and is, playing a significant role in the US Jewish community, with a strong impact on attitudes towards the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians. And then another editor has proposed deletion of the article, on the alleged grounds that the sources used are passing mentions. I think that some of the sources are, indeed, passing mentions and I do intend to get rid of them. Others, though, like the Charlie Rose Show episode are very much not passing mentions and I'm struggling to figure out how to make this clear in the article. I was thinking that if I could directly reference the transcript then any interested reader would see that this is really serious stuff, not some fluff. I'd very much appreciate any advice. Thanks! ] (]) 23:27, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:::@] Have you considered digging for WP:N sources here:? ] (]) 23:48, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
::::That looks very useful. Many thanks! ] (]) 23:53, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm wondering whether it would be appropriate to use "cite episode" for the Charlie Rose Show reference, as "cite episode" accepts a "transcript" parameter, so allowing one to link to both the episode's Web page and to its transcript. I tried doing this but couldn't get it to work. Are there restrictions on targets of "cite episode" references? Thanks ] (]) 12:26, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

== Why was my user page deleted? ==

My user page (User:Schafesd) has vanished and is NOT in the deletion file. I DID search for it. ] (]) 22:09, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|Schafesd}} Your account has never edited your user page, and you have no deleted edits to anything like a userpage. ] (]) 22:18, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:For that matter, no one has ever edited your user page. Would it be the user page of a different account? ] (]) 22:20, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Schafesd}} It's optional to create a user page for an account. You haven't done it. The account works fine without it. ] (]) 22:24, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
:Much thanks to all who replied and so quickly. I thought I had created a user page but must not have. The confusion is my own. Please close this query. ] (]) 22:37, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

= March 25 =

== Request to remove maintenance templates ==

Hi, I would greatly appreciate if someone could please review, and if satisfied, remove the maintenance templates on the following two articles: ] and ]. I believe I have since improved both articles to meet the required standards. ] (]) 00:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

:@]: Hi there! If you've resolved the issues, you may ] and remove the maintenance templates yourself. If someone else disagrees, they can revert your edit(s), and then you can ]. Thanks, and happy editing! ] (]) 03:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks ], will do. ] (]) 03:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:::@] Keep up the good work. You may be interested to read ]: about a word that still appears ten times in ]. ] (]) 12:45, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you ]. ] (]) 23:52, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

== Reverts to bad versions ==

Perhaps someone could take a look at the editing history of ]. A factual error has been restored no less than 25 times, for reasons that have nothing to do with actual content. The page has been repeatedly protected to keep the error in place. Anyone who knows about U.S. politics knows that a pardon would not have been ''requested'' on January 20, 2001. Rather, that seems to be the date it was granted, as it was Clinton's last day in office.

Next, take a look at the editing histories of ] and ]. Read the explanations given for these changes: Again, all of those reverts have nothing to do with actual content.

Now look at the editing history of ]. ''published its '''rebuttal''' to the 1980 letter'' suggests that there was something wrong with the letter itself. That was not the case; the problem was the way it was later misrepresented. The ] makes that fairly clear, though a similar pattern of nonsensical reverts has occurred there also. See as to why the other version is better. ] (]) 03:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

== Football (Soccer) Personal Profile ==

Hi, Im writing my first Misplaced Pages article and i practiced in sandbox first, i created the artcile and using the template function added a personal fotball profile, it had such fields in it as Name, Age, Current club, Height, Weight, Clubs, Apperances and Goals...now im wrtiing the article ready for publishing and i want to add the same template, but its not there when i search for it, any suggestions, thanks ] (]) 03:28, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

:@]: Feel free to post here at the Help desk OR at the Teahouse, but please don't ask the same question in both locations at the same time. Thanks! ] (]) 04:32, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

::] is well short of meeting ]. There needs to be significant coverage in reliable secondary sources.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

== Editing an item about the next General Election in the UK ==

I would like to add the Party name "Liberal Democrats" and the name of the candidate, "Mark Argent" to the item on the next General Election on the Huntingdon Constituency Page but I'm not sure how to do this.

The link is:-

]

] (]) 12:42, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

:@] If you navigate to ] and use the source editor you will see how his name is included in the table for the 2019 general election. You can copy the relevant bits to the table above ''provided you can also add a source that ] he will be a candidate.'' ] (]) 14:33, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::Please be aware that until the calling of the election and the submission of the papers they are ''prospective'' parliamentary candidates. ] (]) 16:08, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you very much.
::Will do. ] (]) 16:33, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::The problem I now have is that I can't see a way of adding a line to the table in order to include the details I want to add.
::Although I can see all the other candidates' details there doesn't seem to be an option to add another one. It looks as though I can overwrite their details but I don't want to risk that - though it may be that the fields that are shown are just intended as examples and are actually editable. Would welcome advice on this point. ] (]) 18:20, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::: {{Ping|MalcolmHilton}} See ]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); ]; ]</span> 19:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

:::{{ping|MalcolmHilton}} I assume you're referring to the "Elections in the 2020s" table in the article. The easiest way to add a row, using the source editor, is to (1) click the "edit" link for the table, (2) copy the ''whole'' {{tlc|Election box candidate with party link}} template for one of the existing candidates and paste that where you want the new row to appear, either between the templates for two existing candidates or after the candidates but before {{tlc|Election box majority}}, (3) replace ''each'' field in the template, including the {{para|url}} field for a reference, with corresponding information about the new candidate, and (4) preview your edit to make sure you haven't messed anything up. Then click "Publish changes". ] (]) 00:37, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

==need help, trying to get font typeface tag to work==

i am trying to use this font tag to change type face, and nothing is changing., can anyone please help?

<nowiki><span style="font-family: Consolas;"> </nowiki>

please ping me if you reply. thanks! ] (]) 15:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:@]: Have you tried adding the closing tag <code><nowiki></span></nowiki></code> after your text to be formatted? —]&nbsp;(&nbsp;]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]&nbsp;) 15:38, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::hi. yes, but the opening tag is at the top of the page, and the closing tag is all at the way at the bottom, after all of the section headings. could that be the problem? ] (]) 15:48, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:::It might be. There is a hierarchy of elements in HTML: <code>&lt;span>s</code> are within <code>&lt;p></code> elements, for example; so your span will get closed as soon as the parser meets the end of a higher-level element. HTML allows you to add a <code>style=</code> to almost any element, not just a span. ] (]) 15:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::::ok.. err, lol it's working fine now. maybe I just needed to hit "purge cache"? oopsie. lol thanks! ] (]) 16:00, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::Victor Schmidt fixed it by using div instead 3 minutes before your post. ] (]) 16:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::::::ok thats great. thanks!! ] (]) 18:56, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:@]: What happens if that font is not available on the device a reader is using? It might be better to use the {{tl|mono}} or {{tl|code}} templates. For example, {{code|<nowiki>{{mono|This is in a monospaced font.}}</nowiki>}} produces {{mono|This is in a monospaced font.}} There is alsi a corresponding {{tl|monodiv}} template. <span class="nowrap">] (])</span> 20:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::wow, ok thats very useful. @], @], @], @], could you please point me to the help pages or manual of style, etc, where all of these items would appear?? I'll try to learn all of these methods. thanks! ] (]) 20:35, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:::@]: For various markup templates, see ] and ]. As is often the case, these lists can be quite difficult to follow to find what you are looking for. Asking questions here, as you have discovered, can be productive when solutions prove elusive.
:::On the manual of style, see ], and its excellent advice about ]ing. <span class="nowrap">] (])</span> 20:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
::::excellent advice! and also KISS is a new acronym for me! all i knew of was ] and ]! lol well done! {{smiley}} ] (]) 20:59, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:::::You are free to choose fonts in your own userspace like ]. If a reader doesn't have the font then their browser will select another font they do have. Articles shouldn't set fonts per ]. ] (]) 21:12, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hello can you help me with trying to remove the Notability of this article page, I have already gather many sources but it remains challenging. ] (]) 17:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

:I think you mean "remove the notability tag". There are currently no independent ] in the article that provide significant coverage of this publication.
:Are you associated with this publication? ] (]) 17:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:The only way is to establish that the Flame meets Misplaced Pages's criteria for ] (most student newspapers don't) by showing where several people, wholly unconnected with it, have written at some length about it in ].
:Evaluate every one of your sources against the ]: if a soue doesn't meet all the criteria in that, then it does not contribute to establishing notability. ] (]) 17:41, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

== Is anyone allowed to comment on someone else's post on ANI? ==

I don't think everyone who has responded to my post on the ANI is an administrator. Am I allowed to give my two cents worth there in a thread someone else started? ] (]) 17:43, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

:Yes, there's no requirement to be an admin to respond to ANI posts. <b>]</b><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 17:46, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

== Google summary ==

How do I edit the little summary box that a Google search produces at the top right-hand side of the page of Google answers? ] (]) 17:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:You'll have to ask Google; we don't have diddly-squat to do with that or any other of their features, even when they lean heavily upon us for answers. --] &#124; ] 17:57, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:] Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's ] uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Misplaced Pages" to indicate that particular text was copied from Misplaced Pages. An image and other text before or after the Misplaced Pages excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Misplaced Pages. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines.<!--- Template:HD/GKG ---> See also: ] (]) 19:34, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

== Change Page Title ==

Our organization changed names, but we don't have anyone who can change the title of the wikipedia page that represents our organization. Is there an admin who can help us? ] (]) 19:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

:What typically matters is if the title of an article is ], not necessarily the official or legal name(example, ], not ], his birth name which is a redirect). If you think the new name will be more prominent, you may make a request at ]. ] (]) 19:37, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:Not directly an answer, but please note that a Misplaced Pages article absolutely does not "represent" your organization. It is an encyclopaedia article ''about'' your organization, based on what independent sources say about you, not on what you want to say about you. If something happened that caused a lot of negative media attention about your organization, that would and should be covered in the article. ] (]) 22:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

:Given all this, you you should try to show that the new name has become more common than the old name in multiple reliable sources (i.e., newspapers, etc.. If you can, then add a comment on the article's talk page and point to those sources, and then request a "move", which is what we call the title change. -] (]) 22:11, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
:Hi there! For more information about making a request, see ], or try the ]. Be sure to disclose your involvement with the organization, as it is a ]. Thanks for your interest in improving Misplaced Pages! ] (]) 04:51, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

== Problem regarding archiving a talk page ==

I set ClueBot III to archive ] using the template found on ].
Even though the earliest thread was from 2005 and there's been about 50 since then,it's put most of them on one page. I assume that it's meant to spread them out to more than one, so I'm not sure what's gone wrong. Could someone have a look? ] (]) 23:01, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
: {{re|KaraLG84}} A new archive will start when it reaches the max size. You specified {{tpq|1=maxarchsize=75000}} and the archive is now at 70199, so not quite big enough to start archive page 2. ] (]) 01:06, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

= March 26 =

== My User Sandbox ==

I seem to have renamed or moved (or both) my own User Sandbox, which is not quite what I had in mind.
i.e. ] now redirects to '''User:WendlingCrusader/Vitry-le-Francois - Misplaced Pages''' which is a draft article that still requires work before I submit it.

Meanwhile I have 'lost' my original (empty) sandbox, and cannot begin work on anything else.
Can this ''faux-pas'' be undone in any way?

This came about because frequently when editing one article, I cross-check information from a second article, only to find more editing is required on that second page. This in turn leads me to a third page, which I find has some editing flaws in it too. And so on.

I will try to give a live example;
I looked at the Hawker Hurricane page, and thought there might be accuracy issues regarding which squadrons flew that aircraft type. This in turn took me to a number of RAF squadron pages, including one that clearly needed tidying up, and another that had mis-labelled one of it's pilots. As it happens, that pilot was notable enough to have his own page on Misplaced Pages, and that page also had issues. Suddenly I've got four editing projects on the go at the same time, and sometimes the same source answers questions on more than one of these pages.

What I was attempting was to create multiple sandboxes, allowing me to work on multiple drafts at the same time, giving me time to assemble all the various references & citations, checking & double-checking them, or waiting for a book to be delivered, or some free-time to visit a library. I didn't want to be rushed into hitting the 'publish' button, simply to allow me to start on the next project before I forgot what had attracted my attention in the first place.

But somewhere along the way I goofed up. So is it possible to go back to one original sandbox, without a redirect? Or better still a small selection of sandboxes, each with their own identifier? And is somebody going to suggest that I should only work on one article at a time, and quietly forget all the peripheral issues I invariably stumble across?

] (]) 00:55, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:@]: You should click on the link to your sandbox as provided, which will take you to the destination page. While there, click on the link in {{tq|(Redirected from User:WendlingCrusader/sandbox)}}. Once you're there just edit the page and remove the redirect. —]&nbsp;(&nbsp;]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]&nbsp;) 01:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks for your prompt reply, but I fear it is more complicated than that.
::From my user page, clicking on the sandbox link only takes me to this '''Redirect page'''
::'''https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:WendlingCrusader/sandbox&redirect=no'''
::It is headed '''''User:WendlingCrusader/sandbox''''', but this page is only a stepping stone, not the sandbox itself.
::Obviously when I click on the redirect, this second click now takes me to my revised sandbox, which right now is already populated with draft text for an article. So it takes me <u>two</u> clicks to reach a page that <u>functions</u> as my sandbox, but now has a different address.
::However, if I <u>manually</u> enter the following into my browser, '''https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User:WendlingCrusader/sandbox''', it takes me directly to my sandbox, complete with {{tq|(Redirected from User:WendlingCrusader/sandbox)}} just as you describe. But I just cannot find a way to edit the page and remove the redirect.
::] (]) 03:40, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:::I did it in ]; you have to edit out the <code><nowiki>#REDIRECT</nowiki></code>. The edit links still work on the page. —]&nbsp;(&nbsp;]&nbsp;•&nbsp;]&nbsp;) 04:04, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

== Excess Wikilink query ==

Hello. I have a query about how often a word should be wikilinked in an article. I thought it was once, then not again, but after removing extra links from this article: ] they were all put back in again, with the editor saying they were needed to make the actors' names more searchable. The entire article is virtually blue. Just wanting to check if that is correct? I really enjoy removing excess wikilinks :-) ] (]) 02:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

:], ] says {{tq|Duplicate linking in ] is permissible if it significantly aids the reader. This is most often the case when the list is presenting information that could just as aptly be formatted in a table, and is expected to be parsed for particular bits of data, not read from top to bottom.}}, so I think the other editor is right. I am sure you can find excess wikilinks elsewhere. ] (]) 02:22, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks @] - I'll keep looking for them ] (]) 02:24, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

== Present content ==

hi, I was wondering why, during women's history month, there is no emphasis on articles regarding'WOMEN'S HISTORY'??? How about it? ] (]) 06:30, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

:There is – see ] if you would like to participate. ] (]) 06:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

== List page name? ==

I would like to create an article listing, with prose accompaniment, the compositions of a jazz composer; no big deal, as there's a common naming scheme of "List of compositions by x" for these articles. However, I would like to also include a small section on works ''not'' composed by the subject, but which are worth mentioning (such as ] popularized by them). What should I title the page? "List of compositions ''associated'' with X"? Or keep the normal title because the section would only be a small minority of the list content? ] 06:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

== Creating Personal Biographies on Misplaced Pages: Exploring Feasibility for Individuals without Media Coverage ==

Hello, I'm curious if it's possible for individuals to create their own biography or personal information page on Misplaced Pages. Specifically, if someone, like myself, lacks media coverage but possesses tangible evidence such as certificates, is it acceptable to create such a page? ] (]) 07:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Ahmed Ghazanfar}} Unfortunately not. Misplaced Pages articles are required to demonstrate that there has been significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources – if that isn't the case, the article can't be written. ] (]) 07:16, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not ] ]] 07:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

== How do I upload a non-free image ==
Hi, I've been trying to upload an image in wikimedia with a non-free license in wikitext format which is this; {{tl|Non-free promotional}} OR {{tl|Non-free biog-pic}} (I've tried both for the "license" part of the upload). But it just keeps saying ''"The wikitext you entered doesn't contain a valid license template."'' And then when I tried to get a roundabout at it and added that wikitext and a rationale after it's been uploaded, it automatically gets nominated for a '''''Speedy deletion'''''.

So the question is, How do I upload the non-free image for use in an article? Also, yes, I have checked that the image is adequate ] (]) 07:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

: {{small|Replaced transcluded templates with template links. ] (]) 07:32, 26 March 2024 (UTC)}}
:Did you do it via "Upload a non-free file" at ]? And what image for what article? ] (]) 07:47, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::No I uploaded it at "Upload Wizard" directly, isn't that where images are supposed to be uploaded?. The article was ] ] (]) 07:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Turniner}} It appears this relates to ] for the article ]. Wikimedia Commons never allows non-free media files – you were probably looking to upload it here, which you can do via the ]. In this case, it appears you should not do so, however: ] lists {{tq|Pictures of people still alive, groups still active, and buildings still standing; provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image. This includes non-free promotional images.}} under the "Unacceptable use" section. ] (]) 07:49, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

:{{ping|Tollens}} ''provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image. This includes non-free promotional images.}} under the "Unacceptable use" section.'' No, there aren't any free images at all, that's why I was trying to upload one so that the article's infobox has the image of the subject, Which was Kyoya ] (]) 07:54, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::That isn't what that says, though. It specifically says "taking a new free picture" – if someone was to take a new free picture it would indeed serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the image you uploaded at Commons. ] (]) 08:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:::Except that's not the case, cuz there's NONE. Now how do I upload a non-free image for use, I already have the rationale ] (]) 08:08, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::::I understand that there are none. That does not change the fact that somebody could photograph this person in the future and release the image under a free license. Images can be uploaded using the ], but again, do not upload that image. If you do it will be tagged for speedy deletion. ] (]) 08:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::In short, no non-free pics of living people. Unless they are in jail for the foreseeable future or something like that. If you want, you can try to contact him and suggest he "donates" a pic on Commons. It has to be done right though. ] (]) 08:28, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:::This reminds me of the endless debates for years at ] that basically said that North Korea was a hermit kingdom and that no freely licensed or public domain photos of the North Korean leader could possibly be taken, and so a non-free image was an acceptable exception to the rules. And then along came the summit meetings between Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump in 2018, documented by several US government photographers, whose work was immediately in the public domain. That uncontested fact obliterated the earlier arguments. Try to fully think through your argument first. ] (]) 09:07, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
::::Sure, but the jail-thing still happens, like ]. ] (]) 09:45, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

==]==
Please fix up the ] link I added on the first line of this article - it should have a "little-dots" -type line underneath it I think. Thanks ] (]) 08:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}. I used this: <nowiki>{{circa|1800}}</nowiki>, which renders as {{circa|1800}}. ] (]) 08:58, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

== Use of the invisdible to others ==

Hello,

how can I use the translation tool without other people seeing what I have translated?

Kind regards ] (]) 09:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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    January 15

    Template Categorization Confusion

    So I'm trying to work on categorization tasks; specifically in Category:All uncategorized pages. Lets take for example, Template:Delay safesubst.

    How am I supposed to correctly categorize this template?

    At first I thought I should just write:

    ]

    Then I read a bit and now thought, what if I put the category on the /doc page and {{Delay safesubst}} on the main template.

    What am I supposed to do for moving both template and their doc pages? Even if I give the doc page a category, Category:All uncategorized pages, still retains the template (item). Bondishloka (talk) 09:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Bondishloka generally the way templates are categorized is by using {{sandbox other}} on its doc page, like this. ''']''' (talkcontribs) 09:16, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
    Thank you Bondishloka (talk) 15:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
    Bondishloka, please look up the use of nowiki when you want to mention bracketed categories or template calls, instead of using them. Messing with the spacing between brackets or curlies on links or templates can throw off parsing algorithms that provide syntax highlighting on the page, for those who have enabled that. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 00:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Annoying map in Infobox

    Using "display=title" in "Template-Coord"" displays the coordinates above the wiki article.
    In my sandbox of the Yisan article, no map is shown under "Tambon" in Infobox.
    But when I copy this "Yisan" article from my sandbox to the "Yisan" wiki article, a map automatically appears under "Tambon" in Infobox.
    The question is how can I stop this annoyance.
    SietsLSietsL (talk) 12:35, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

    @SietsL: the info box uses {{Infobox settlement}}, which includes a mapframe map based on Wikidata by default. Your sandbox is not linked to Wikidata, so no map is produced. You can hide the map by adding "|mapframe = no" as an extra line in the infobox. TSventon (talk) 13:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

    Close paraphrasing issues

    Hello. I want to expand stub articles on Misplaced Pages without being blocked for copyright violations of close paraphrasing. I have been reading Misplaced Pages:Close paraphrasing#How to write acceptable content and I want to add information from the Handbook of Texas and Texas Escapes magazine into the articles I have created or expanded. I have read the template in that section with the title "Example: close paraphrasing repaired", where it says to bring in other sources and "read source information, preferably taking notes to extract essential points, and write a summary in your own words, thereby producing an acceptable version." Although the Handbook of Texas has "fair use" guidelines, I want to write paragraphs that bring together information from two sources, without maintaining the previous sentence structure or style. How can I go about doing that, or should I not do that at all? I haven't edited on Misplaced Pages much, so I want to get some guidance. Thank you. Colman2000 (talk) 19:53, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

    (had to battle my way through a IP spam army) Essentially, if it's not fair use, than see that it's still possible; I would suppose, given they have a copyright over the latest edition of their handbook, trying a earlier one (or rather, look for any excerpts out there). 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 23:01, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
    Although I should note that you were advised last year over this issue. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 23:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hello, Colman2000. When I am trying to summarize some pretty complex sources while avoiding close paraphrasing, I use old fashioned techniques like those described in Outline (list), and actually use pen and paper, working usually with a yellow legal pad or maybe with some excess papers from a computer printer that have something irrelevant printed on the back side. As I read the source material for the second or third time, I jot down phases that serve to remind me of the most important points. In general, they may seem vague to other people but are thematic and serve to later remind me of something important. Sometimes, they may be brief and factual like "died NYC 1892 heart attack". They may resemble internet search terms or the briefest summaries of the results of such search terms. Everything I write has a mnemonic function to me. It may make little sense to anyone else, but these phrases are "reminders" to me and me alone of what I believe the most important points are about the content I plan to summarize. When my jottings are done, I then take a break and do something else for an hour or two. Then, I sit down with my rough notes and summarize in full prose what I learned from the sources. Then, I fact check my own writing and also verify that I have truly written in my own words instead of duplicating through memory the work of the original author. I may forget 95% of the wording of the original material but some striking phrase may stick in my mind. If so, I can include that brief content accurately in quotation marks, attributed to the original source. I hope that this helps. Cullen328 (talk) 08:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Edit reverted by viewmont viking

    Hello, I am Olliebowen28. I am a new-ish user, and one of my first edits was to the Mankato west high school page. I added the school fight song lyrics and tune to the page. Then, some guy named Viewmont Viking came along and reverted it. The only reason he provided is, "WP is not a webhost." Being a new user, I have no idea what that means. I posted several comments explaining why my edit belongs in wikipedia, and I asked what "WP is not a webhost" means. He never responded to any of my comments, and in desperation for his attention, I reverted his edit of reverting my edit. I put in the description of my edit to look at the talk page comments, and he never looked nor explained. He also posted a few comments on my talk page, linking articles about wikipedia guidelines. None of them applied to my edit. All I ask is that my contribution not be reverted again, or if my contributions did violate some guideline that you explain what guideline was broken and how it can be fixed so that it doesn't.

    Many thanks, OllieBowen28 (talk) 22:25, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

    Contents in Misplaced Pages articles need to be Verifiable in reliable sources, therefore informations that might not be significant enough to get coverage from reliable sources typically wouldn't be included due to the difficulty in finding sources for them. You should provide citation for the content you added, otherwise other editors would not be able to check its reliability. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 22:40, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
    Thank you for your reply. I will try to find a reliable source OllieBowen28 (talk) 22:55, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
    @OllieBowen28, the lyrics to the school's fight song might be protected by copyright. But even if they aren't, they're trivia, not something that belongs in an encyclopedia article. Schazjmd (talk) 23:15, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hello, @OllieBowen28. See WP:NOTWEBHOST; the implication is that the other user believed that the material you added was not encyclopaedic.
    Quite apart from that, there is the question of copyright: you may not insert copyright material into a Misplaced Pages article, unless it has been explicitly released or licensed appropriately.
    One more point: you are edit-warring, and you must stop. Irrespective of right and wrong, edit-warring is forbidden. ColinFine (talk) 23:16, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hello, OllieBowen28, only US song lyrics published over 95 years ago are sure to be in the public domain. My quick Google search shows that Mankato West High School was founded in 1951. If that is accurate, then it is likely that the song lyrics are still copyright protected. Even if they are in the public domain for some reason, most high school song lyrics are banal, routine and predictable. So, unless reliable published sources independent of the high school have commented on the innovative and unique nature of these lyrics, then they do not belong in this encyclopedia. Cullen328 (talk) 08:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Women's Sports Network

    Considering creating a draft article for Women's Sports Network, a free ad-supported streaming television service. For some reason the title is blacklisted. Anyone know the reason why? Esolo5002 (talk) 23:08, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Esolo5002: Are you sure that's the exact title you tried? Your post here used a normal apostrophe which is allowed but a similar character is disallowed. Compare Draft:Women's Sports Network (allowed) and Draft:Women’s Sports Network (disallowed). PrimeHunter (talk) 23:26, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

    James Middleton

    Please help with reference number 9 - "journal" comes up as red. Please repair and Im sorry - I did not do this mistake/citation. I saw the red ink. Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 23:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

     Already done - There was a missing journal parameter; you're welcome. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 23:26, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

    January 16

    copyvio

    Stumbled across this article: Michael Habermann. Aside from questioning its notability, the article is practically verbatim from a direct primary source with 80% copyvio, here: and and reads like a resume. Is there a template that can be placed on the article stating this or something similar to invite editors to clean-up / re-write the article with secondary sources in their own words? There is already a "BLP sources" at the header. Maybe that's enough? Maineartists (talk) 00:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    Definitely a copyvio situation. While our article predates the earliest Internet Archive copies of those two sources, the earliest version of our article is a verbatim copy of the musician's website of the time. See https://web.archive.org/web/20040204000620/http://www.michaelhabermann.com/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Michael_Habermann&oldid=24277064 There is no copyright mention on the musician's website so we have to assume it is copyrighted. There are only minor differences between the current article and the initial 2005 version, so in my opinion this is a WP:TNT situation. the entire article should be deleted as a copyvio, and recreated with independent sources if warranted. Meters (talk) 01:51, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    His current page, https://www.michaelhabermann.com/ is copyrighted 2001, and the ABOUT MICHAEL HABERMANN subpage, https://www.michaelhabermann.com/about/_index.html is unchanged from the version we copied in 2005. Meters (talk) 01:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    Nominated as a copyvio WP:TNT at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Michael Habermann. Meters (talk) 02:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    Do not see edit button

    I do not see an edit button when I log in. Have I been blocked? If so, why? Davidhhelman (talk) 01:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    You are not blocked. If you were you would not have been able to edit this page. Meters (talk) 02:00, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Davidhhelman: There are some pages that have certain levels of protection. Did you see a lock icon by the top-right corner of the page? An exception I'm aware of is the main page, which is fully protected, or administrator-only. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    If you can share what pages you were looking at, we could confirm if they are indeed protected which might prevent you from editing. Depending on what device/brower/skin you're using instead of an edit button you might see something like "view source" and if you see that, then there is a very high likelyhood the page you want to edit has been protected, often because of vandalism, and things such as recent political events or global news are often falling into this category. If you want to see something changed on those pages, you can make a WP:EDITREQUEST on the talk page of the article. When you do that, please be specific on you want "X changed to Y" and provide reliable sources to support that change. TiggerJay(talk) 15:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    Question related to Speedy deletion criteria

    Does CSD G-14 apply if the disambiguation page has other red links? E.g. there is a ship name index page and there is one ship with an article but another without an article yet(however there is a link to it's ship class's article) Thehistorianisaac (talk) 03:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    That does not sound like G14 because it's not an obvious and not-reasonably-debatable case. It sounds like there are at least two entries that have bluelink, even if one is only for an article about a broader topic. Could that broader-topic page specifically mention this specific example, such that this example's red-link be made a redirect to it (and therefore blue)? All that takes is one ref. Are there enough refs available you could write a small stub-article? DMacks (talk) 05:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    Regarding this

    How do I let newcomers know that they can ask me questions like the link? TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:10, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    @TheTechie You sign up as a mentor! See Misplaced Pages:Growth Team features/Mentor list. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    Reference formatting

    I am not an expert on the different ways of laying out references, but the way it is done at the end of Karma Paul looks really strange to me. It starts with standard refs, then switches to a form that has reference numbers (to those earlier refs) with page numbers. Is this an acceptable form of referencing, or does it need to be fixed? I will be interested to learn... Gronk Oz (talk) 10:24, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    Hypothesis: It's an attempt to avoid using in-line Template:Reference page while technically perhaps not mixing reftag/sfn citing. It looks very weird and IMO still goes against at least the spirit of WP:REFVAR. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:00, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    I didn't really feel that the footnote template worked very well but haven't come across the Reference page template until now. I'll revise those on the Karma Paul page. Thanks for flagging it up. Babybrew6 (talk) 11:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Babybrew6, do you wish to comment? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:47, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Babybrew6: Ah, that looks so much better now. Much easier to read. Thanks for being so responsive, and thanks Gråbergs Gråa Sång.--Gronk Oz (talk) 23:06, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    Help! Rail-interchange

    I want to add a new rail-interchange template for the red line of Namma metro (displayed here Template:Rail-interchange/doc/IN), but couldn't seem to figure out how others were added. I searched everywhere but could not find anything. Footy2000♡; 14:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    I think you would do better to ask at TT:Rail-interchange/IN (which has not so far been created) or perhaps better still to add an edit request at TT:Rail-interchange ColinFine (talk) 15:33, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    That page has not been created because the various documentation subpages just detail region-specific codes for the rail-interchange template, all of these different doc subpages exist to avoid having a massive and hard to navigate documentation page. Also, those links go to Tatar Misplaced Pages.
    I agree that the best option is to add an edit request to Template talk:Rail-interchange. Reconrabbit 20:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    Oops! I thought TT was a standard shortcut for "Template Talk". ColinFine (talk) 23:18, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    Ngl, that redirect to Tatar wikipedia caught me off gaurd. Thank you for the responses though, it helped. Footy2000♡; 03:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    How to re-enable alerts on new in-links pointing to a given article

    I received an alert (Bell icon) about a new in-link targeting article FOO that I follow, and clicked in the alert to go to the Foo-linking article. At least, that's what I wanted to do, but in reality, I mistakenly clicked something in the message that caused a message to appear saying "You will no longer be notified about in-links to FOO". How do I undo this? I still want to be notified when editors add links to FOO from other articles. I checked FOO, and I am still a watcher.

    I searched around, but couldn't find how to undo this. At one point, I landed at Misplaced Pages:Article alerts, but that's not it. (A hatnote added to the top of that page linking wherever the right page is would be helpful to other users who encounter this.)

    As a corollary, on the analogy of email unsubscribe-confirmed messages that provide a 'Resubscribe' link in case you just made a mistake and never intended to unsubscribe, a small, added, Undo alert removal link added to the you-will-no-longer-be-notified message that would undo the action would be nice. Where would I propose that? Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    Go to your preferences. On Notification tab, at bottom under Muted pages for page link notifications, click the X on the article you have muted to restore notifications, then Save.When I tested muting a notification for page links, there was a brief pop-up that told me I could manage them in preferences, but it's easy for that to disappear before you read it. Schazjmd (talk) 20:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    Schazjmd, thanks so much for this. I did actually swing by the preferences page and even the notifications tab, but obviously I didn't scroll down far enough. While looking at all the options visible upon first view of that page above the fold—even scrolling down 80% of the page—they are all site-wide options, not page-specific, and I reasoned that this page was wholly about site-wide options, and didn't scroll down that last little bit, so I missed that last part at the very bottom, and clicked away too soon. (That pref page tab might benefit by a small link above the fold, mentioning the possibility of page-specific options at the bottom.) Anyway, I've undone the muting on that page, and in the bargain I discovered two other pages that are muted, much to my surprise and annoyance, and against my preference, as I never even knew alerts were blocked for those. Probably tons of users have pages muted from alerts that they are not even aware of.
    And yeah, that pop-up is too brief—do you have any idea where should one go to propose a change to the pop-up, maybe to have a longer time-out, a dismiss icon, and an Undo link? Some project here or at mw:? If Phab, what project? Mathglot (talk) 23:57, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
    I don't, @Mathglot, sorry. I agree that it could use some work; if I hadn't been looking for something to tell me where to go, I would have missed it. Interestingly, when I did the test, I found that I had other pages muted as well, although I don't recall ever doing so. Schazjmd (talk) 00:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hello, @Mathglot. I would start at WP:VPT - the folks there might direct you somewhere else. ColinFine (talk) 13:45, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Language Addition

    Adieu Vinyle La rebelle : Les aventures de la jeune George Sand Neea River Hey,

    I have made several articles over the past 24 hours that are have been available in other languages before I made the English Misplaced Pages page. How do I add the languages to the wiki, so people can select their language? Thanks

    Electricsnake247 (talk) 23:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Electricsnake247, your question has been answered at the Teahouse. Please don't post the same question in multiple places, thanks. Schazjmd (talk) 23:53, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    Cannot see article I wrote.

    Hey,

    I wrote the article La rebelle : Les aventures de la jeune George Sand today and published it. I am now trying to search for it and it won't come up automatically unless I copy/paste the title or if I go to see all results.

    This hasn't happened before so i am unsure what is going on.

    Thanks Electricsnake247 (talk) 23:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Electricsnake247: mw:Help:CirrusSearch#How frequently is the search index updated? says: "The second index to consider is the fuzzy auto-complete title search. This index is updated once a day and mirrors what was found in the full-text search index at the time the index was updated. Depending on timing a new page could take two days to be found in the fuzzy title autocomplete." PrimeHunter (talk) 00:00, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    January 17

    I need help... again.

    How do I add a file from another Misplaced Pages? User332224 (talk) 00:40, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    You mean a existing image from another language of Misplaced Pages? 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 00:42, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    yes User332224 (talk) 00:53, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    That's what I mean. User332224 (talk) 00:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    If you link the pic you have in mind, editors here might be able to tell you if it's possible to use that pic on en-WP. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    In any case, see this for information on how to add them to a article. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 00:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    The only images that can be displayed on English Misplaced Pages pages are ones that are here on enwiki or are on commons. You cannot display an image here from another language's wikipedia. But (depending on the file's license and how you plan to use it) you might be able to download the file from that other language and then upload it here on enwiki or maybe to commons. DMacks (talk) 05:10, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    I plan to place it on the infobox in an English translation of a page on the Portuguese wikipedia. User332224 (talk) 14:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    You mean this? 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 15:17, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    This pic? If so, when/if your translation is accepted in article space, you can upload it locally on en-WP. If that happens, go to the File upload wizard and chose "Upload a non-free file". > "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use" > "This is the official cover art of a work." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Adding City Officials and Job Description

    I am attempting to add the city's elected Officials Treasurer and Clerk, however I am stumped on to include them. DeanLJones (talk) 01:17, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Treasurer and clerk are usually not included in an article about a city due to the relative lack of coverage these positions received. If some notable individual has or had served in one of these roles, you can mention their time in office by adding Template:Infobox officeholder as a module of the existing infobox. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 06:05, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    This user appears to be a WP:SPA centered solely on editing the article for Compton, California. Sarsenet (talk) 06:27, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Copying from GFDL-only Misplaced Pages

    Copying from GFDL-only sources is prohibited. However, does this extend to Misplaced Pages when it was GFDL-only? In other words, is it prohibited to copy from a pre-2009 Misplaced Pages edit to an article today? If not, why? JJPMaster (she/they) 04:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Hello, JJPMaster. I think that GNU Free Documentation License and its references should answer most of your questions. In brief, special arrangements were made in the phase-out of GFDL licensing from Misplaced Pages, and I do not fully understand all those provisions. Cullen328 (talk) 07:23, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Correct value of page= parameter when citing a journal via a compilation of an entire volume

    Hi, apologies if some of my terminology is off, but I'm trying to figure out what the proper way is to cite an article within a journal where the source available online is a compilation of an entire volume of the journal, with its own page numberings. The source in question is at this link; the article is on page 456 of volume 14, but presumably the article's page number when issue 28 was distributed on its own was different. There doesn't seem to be any obvious way to distinguish whether the reference is citing the article within the volume as a whole or an individual issue of the volume.

    I've gone with this for now, but I'm not sure if this is correct: {{cite journal |last1=Taylor |first1=J.N. |title=Organic Chemicals |journal=World Trade Notes on Chemicals and Allied Products |date=13 July 1940 |volume=14 |issue=28 |page=456 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=jdseHwBxG5YC&pg=PA456 |access-date=17 January 2025 |publisher=] |location=Washington, D.C. |language=en}}.

    Thank you! Jokullmusic 17:21, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Jokullmusic you should give the page number in the edition that you are using. I may be wrong, but I believe that the page number would have been the same in both versions when the journal was issued in 1940 so that the citation based on an individual issue and based on the bound volume would be the same. TSventon (talk) 17:42, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    Looks more like a newsletter, or something similar, than a peer-reviewed academic or scholarly journal so I would use {{cite periodical}} (an alias of {{cite magazine}}) and |periodical=. As above, cite the source that you consulted; how the individually distributed issue was paginated is irrelevant if you did not consult that issue.
    Trappist the monk (talk) 18:14, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    Thanks to you and User:TSventon both for clearing that up. I'll switch it to the periodical template -- I was uncertain between the two. Jokullmusic 18:30, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    Jokullmusic, agree with both of the above. I would add the following, which may help if you have similar questions in the future. Think about the bottom line, namely, why do we have these citation templates in the first place: it is to ensure verifiability, and in the case of any given citation, it is to answer the question: "How do I get an interested user to the right place so that they can see that the content in the article is backed up by this source?" So whatever you are looking at, tell the user exactly how to get there, including the page number if applicable, but also: if there are multiple ISBN's for hardback, paperback, etc., give them the one for your item; if you are looking at the second edition, then include |edition=2; if you are looking at the 2025 publication of an anthology first published in 1940, give them |date=2025 and the current publisher, location, and page number of that one, and if you wish, optionally add the |orig-date=1st pub. Old_Publisher:1940 which lets the reader know that the one you found was not the original, and allows them to delve deeper, if they wish. Mathglot (talk) 19:59, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    Assistance with posting a link with a bracket in the URL

    Maybe im just making a mistake, but whenever i attempt to include links such as this: https://californiarevealed.org/search?search_api_fulltext=&f=search_page_series_title:Shades%20of%20Fresno%20Collection in the external links page and add the text afterwards it doesn't fully work. I believe this is because of the brackets in the link itself. Does anyone have a solution so I can include these type of links on Misplaced Pages. Thank you! NewishIdeas (talk) 20:04, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    @NewishIdeas:, when I switch the search results to show 96 results, the disappears from the url: https://californiarevealed.org/search?search_api_fulltext=&f%5B0%5D=search_page_series_title%3AShades%20of%20Fresno%20Collection&items_per_page=96. Schazjmd (talk) 20:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    It hasn't disappeared, it's been encoded to %5B0%5D. See Help:URL#Fixing links with unsupported characters. The original page without changing the number of results - if that's important - can be linked like this. —Cryptic 20:25, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    If I am looking at this correctly, it appears you replaced the bracketed zero with %5B0%5D and that fixed the issue? NewishIdeas (talk) 20:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    Yes. —Cryptic 20:41, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
    Thanks a lot I appreciate it! NewishIdeas (talk) 20:53, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

    January 18

    Citation numbering

    I added a citation to an existing article, somewhere in the middle. Although the number of the previous citation was something like 18, my added one ended up with 44.

    I was surprised, assuming everything would automatically renumber. It looks so weird now. Should I have done something to make automatic renumbering happen? Augnablik (talk) 02:04, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Augnablik: You did right and shouldn't do anything else. Citations can be used multiple times as described at WP:REFNAME. They are automatically numbered by their first appearance. The citations in jump from 18 to 46 but if you click "18" then it says "18. " This means citation 18 is used five times. Each letter is a link to a use. The first use is after citation 17. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:20, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
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