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| I'm sorry to be suddenly disagreeing with you, but I do feel that there is a place for qualifications of controversial concepts and assertions. Thus, when I originally had the word "channelled" in quotes in the Jane Roberts article, I think the quotes were needed. Here is the sentence: | |||
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| :"Purported" was also addressed by the ArbCom. But I took that whole sentence out because it doesn't seem to be mentioned again in the article, and we're supposed to be summarizing the article. | |||
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| From the perspective of someone who believes in channelling, I still think that for an encyclopedia to state it as a fact without some kind of qualification is very poor form for an encyclopedia. I'm most concerned that the encyclopedia maintain the same objective and professional standards that other encyclopedias do. | |||
| Despite the arbitration, the word "purported" has its uses. I think the point of the arbitration was to get the skeptics to stop dropping the word before every noun they didn't like. | |||
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| Okay, I just found a spot for that sentence at the bottom of the article.--] 03:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| == Ganzfeld experiment == | |||
| Re your edit to the PK article intro, the Ganzfeld experiment is 100% telepathy/rv related isn't it? The article there even calls it the "Gansfeld telepathy experiment." I don't see the connection to PK. The RNG lab experiments I think are the lab evidence for PK (controversial though they may be) and the more famous outside-of-lab evidence are the spontaneous and metal phenomena cases. I'd like to ask you reconsider your edit. Thanks. ] 18:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :You're right! Total brain fart (I reverted it). Although in defense, there is a lot of talk that psychokinesis and telepathy et al are actually the same thing. Still, the spontaneous stuff is not convincing, at least in the current scientific culture, and I think they might put more emphasis on RNG data. Don't you think? –––''']''' <sub>(] Ψ ])</sub> 19:37, 11 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I took your excellent link and used it as a reference, revising the intro line in question at PK. There is a lot of published documentation on spontaneous PK; in the past sometimes called poltergeist cases. ] 14:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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