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== Query ==
== Reorganizing template usage, okay, but did you mean to get political? ==


"A 2012 analysis of data on individual participants in acupuncture studies looked at migraine and tension headaches. The analysis showed that actual acupuncture was more effective than either no acupuncture or simulated acupuncture in reducing headache frequency or severity." See ]. This is a cut and paste from the source.
I don't actually like to watch the insane panics when people get inordinately upset at changes that verge on politics, so I kinda want to ask "did you mean it?". Your of templates had the (unintended?) effect of reordering the traditional/simplified presentations in ]. It was simp/trad, and now is trad/simp, and possibly because you explicitly said to put traditional first (I'm guessing at what "|first=t|" means).


"A 2014 Australian clinical study involving 282 men and women showed that needle and laser acupuncture were modestly better at relieving knee pain from osteoarthritis than no treatment, but not better than simulated (sham) laser acupuncture." This is a cut and paste from the source. See ].
I really wouldn't be surprised if someone starts saying "but it says mainland China first and you have traditional first - you have messed up things!"


According to NCCAM, "results of a systematic review that combined data from 11 clinical trials with more than 1,200 participants suggested that acupuncture (and acupuncture point stimulation) may help with certain symptoms associated with cancer treatments." This is a cut and paste from the article. See ].
I'm not going to check around where else something like this might've happened, because I'm already nervous. Just wondering if you've thought about the (political) side-effects of reorganization? :-( ] (]) 07:05, 24 September 2009 (UTC)


Is it a weight violation to use an that is not a review when there are way better references already in the article or is it ? The TCM page is a different situation when there are not plenty of sources for the drug research section on pseudoscience. ] (]) 02:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
:Sorry, that was my mistake; I didn't mean to add first=t there, it was an unintentional reorganization. In actuality, I'm trying my best to ''avoid'' reorganization.
:In some articles (ie, Taiwan- and Hong Kong-related ones), it's more appropriate to have trad. characters first, and that was reflected in the templates used there (for instance, templates like zh-tscyp or whatever put the traditional first automatically), so when I replaced them I added {{para|first|t}} to make sure they ''wouldn't'' get reorganized. It looks like this time I accidentally included {{para|first|t}} when I shouldn't; seems that {{tlf|zh-tspl}}, which I was replacing, is deceptive (it has t first in its name, but it actually shows simplified first). When I remember AWBing that last night, the pages that transcluded it were a mix of mainland and Taiwan-related topics (there were 50-some ROC baseball players in there, for example), and on several articles I was manually going in and removing the {{para|first|t}} before AWB put it in; must have just missed a few on this article. Thanks for the notice, <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 15:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)


:It's not really clear to me what you're asking, and since you aren't using quotation marks or italics or anything else in this message it's not even clear to me what parts of your message are your comments and what are pasted from articles. Also keep in mind that I'm not familiar with these articles, I only just stumbled across them recently, so I don't have much context for the issues you're raising. If you have a question for me please present it a little more clearly so I don't have to spend time deciphering it. Thanks, <b class="IPA">]</b>&nbsp;(]) 03:01, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
== 95.25.237.61 - IP user's disruption ==


::I edited my previous comment and added the source to make it more clear. You brought up the issue of plag on my talk page with a related article. The text in the quotes are a cut and paste but with the acupuncture article the text is not in quotation marks. Let's start with one question. Is that ]? ] (]) 06:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi, Rjanag, since you're an active admin, please look into the disruptions carried by {{user16|95.25.237.61}}? The IP user has changed the names of Korean athletic players during the Japanese occupation period to Japanese name. As if they were still holding Japanese name and citizenship after the liberation in 1945. The IP user has also added information without sources, but deleted something that he dislikes for his POV in the name of "no citation" and "NPOV". The anon's edits are of course neutral to himself/herself only. I think the person reminds me of some Russian POV pusher or open proxy editor disguising a third person. Your administrative actions or editor's input would be appreciated. ]. Thanks.--] 15:24, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
:Thank you for the input.--] 23:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)


:::Let me stop you right there. There is no rule saying that if there is other plagiarism (or any other sort of problem) in one article, then it's OK for you to add more. There is no rule saying that if I report one instance of plagiarism (or any other sort of problem) then I have to read the entire article and report every other one. I happened to glance at just that one sentence of the article and its source (that is literally the only source in the article that I opened up and read) and saw that it was obviously plagiarized, so I dealt with it and alerted you to the issue. I am under no obligation to devote myself to scanning the entire article for it, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. If you legitimately don't understand what plagiarism is then I can try to explain it more, but if you're trying to suggest that my notification to you was somehow "wrong" because there are other instances of plagiarism that I didn't report, then you are wasting your time. <b class="IPA">]</b>&nbsp;(]) 13:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
== Daryl Copeland page - Re-Post - No copyright infringement ==


== Nature editorial "Hard to swallow" at ] ==
Hello,


Greetings Rjanag! I've opened a discussion at ] about the use of the Nature editorial. I've concluded my opinion into four points. Would you care to take a look?
You have deleted the page for Daryl Copeland citing copyright infringement.


What's substantially different from the usage of the source at ], is that when the context of the quote is restored, the whole source is solely about TCM, not about acupuncture. A mere "''TCM as mainly pseudoscience, with no logical mechanism of action for the majority of its treatments.''" alone is undue weight, but if we include the rest of the paragraph in the article, it'd say: "''Advocates respond by claiming that researchers are missing aspects of the art, notably'' '''the interactions between different ingredients in traditional therapies.'''". IMHO, it clearly doesn't fit to ].
http://en.wikipedia.org/Daryl_Copeland


I have suggested removing the unfit entries, and finding for better sources. Administrator Kww, however, replied to me that: "'' I would like to suggest that the next time you want to misrepresent the contents of a source, you should refrain from doing so.''". I'd appreciate if you could have a look. Cheers! ] (]) 14:32, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
There is no copyright infringement. Some of the text is the same as Mr. Copeland wrote it. As can be seen on the referenced web page, Mr. Copeland is part of that organization.


:No thanks, I do not wish to continue in the discussions within this topic area. It's like herding cats. <b class="IPA">]</b>&nbsp;(]) 22:41, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
The text appears on several other sites by Mr. Copeland as well. This does not make it copyright infringement.


::Well, I understand you perfectly. Thanks anyway! :-) ] (]) 18:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
What was the rationale to take it down?


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Eight years ago, you were recipient no. ] of Precious, a prize of QAI! --] (]) 06:36, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
:The failure to send you a message regarding the deletion is not my issue; that would have been the responsibility of ], the editor who originally tagged the article for deletion. Normally the editor who tags an article also leaves a message informing the creator.
:As for the copyright issues... well, first of all, whether or not Copeland wrote that text is irrelevant unless ''you'' are Copeland. To be able to post copyrighted text and claim you have the right, you need to prove that you are the person who owns that text; that is generally done by contacting Misplaced Pages's ] e-mail team through ''']'''. That being said, even if you do own the copyright to that text, there are several reasons not to restore the article:
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:#] concerns and ]. If you are Mr. Copeland and hold the copyright to this text, then you are in a conflict of interest. Misplaced Pages guidelines (linked just above) strongly discourage writing articles about yourself, as it will be just about impossible to write from a ]. Also, the article needs to demonstrate why the individual meets ], which text copied from other websites usually does not do.
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== Request for input ==
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I see you have had previous involvement with the editor Hijiri88. I would welcome any input you might see fit to offer at ]. Thank you. ] (]) 18:26, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
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Hi Rjanag. Could you please userfy ] for me? It's been blogged and I'd like to see what's going on. But if it was all copyvio, never mind, about userfying, just let me know. Thanks in advance, ] (] | ]) 05:02, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
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:Userfied to ] for now; it is borderline copyvio (clear plagiarism, but only borderline copyvio), so I'll probably re-delete it after you've had a chance to look at it. Since the blog post is from September 4 and I only deleted it yesterday, I imagine the blog is referring to revision of it, where it was tagged for speedy deletion (and declined) back in July. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 05:08, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
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:: Thanks! To be honest, I don't see the copyvio here. It seems that an effort has been made to change wordings. Notability is questionable, and neither of the cited references establishes notability. One of them is a broken link and the other one is not independent. But if these people have been doing good work for 19 years, I think there's a reasonable chance that someone could find sources somewhere. I'd take it to AfD if I were you, even if only to have the community take responsibility for the deletion rather than shouldering it all yourself. Just a thought. Best regards, ] (] | ]) 05:26, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
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:::Well, the entire text of http://www.raptoreducationgroup.org/What_REGI_Is.cfm is present there; a few words and sentences are added here and there, but the website is copied in its entirety. And, as I always say when performing speedy deletions, an article like this is obvious plagiarism even if it's not certainly copyvio (like I said above, the copyvio here is borderline, and the plagiarism certain). If you think the subject is noteworthy, you're welcome to recreate the article without copyvio, or just as a stub; there's not really any reason for me to take it to AfD now since it's already deleted. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 05:33, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
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As you suggest above, I've recreated the article. ]] 05:11, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
:You think it's not copyvio, and yet it's full of sentences literally copied and pasted from http://www.raptoreducationgroup.org/What_REGI_Is.cfm ? I suggested recreating it ''as a stub'', not recreating it as plagiarism. Like it says on my userpage: you're never going to get me to apologize for deleting plagiarized junk, it's not something we need on Misplaced Pages.
:I see no need to take it to AfD now because I've tried to clean up the copied-and-pasted sentences and I don't really care about the notability concern. But please don't re-create plagiarism in the future. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 13:13, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
:And as for your argument about user retention... maybe you could check the article history before making arguments like this. The article was created ''a year ago'', so the editor has either moved on from now or already learned his lesson. In this case, the editor had been gone for two weeks and was not likely to be back anytime soon, so you can't expect me to 'work with' an absent editor to clean up plagiarism. And are you saying that user retention is ''so'' important we should leave plagiarism in the encyclopedia, just on the gamble that that user ''might'' turn into a productive editor someday (keeping in mind that the vast majority of new accounts here do not become productive)? <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 13:34, 26 September 2009 (UTC)


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:You recent note brings up valid and cogent points of divergence; I may have missed something in seeing these statements in other forums? on the article talk page? If substantial revisions are required then it is customary although under ] not necessary to address those concerns in a preliminary way. FWiW, the plot section of a movie article is, in many cases, an author's vehicle and rarely requires more than a summary. Be assured that it is not disagreement with your edits that was the issue, it was the manner in which the edit comments were used as a rhetorical device, one that was more "stream-of-consciousness" than balanced and constructive. ] (]) 14:18, 26 September 2009 (UTC).
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:::The "Cadillac of the Skies" was the subject of numerous research efforts as to ethonology. Reviewing contemporary sources and every authoritative reference on the P-51 Mustang has led to the conclusion that there is no World War II origin for the word. All this revolves around the dreaded ] and has led to lively discussions with P-51 pilots, museum curators and historians, none of which can provide substantiation for the phrase, while I can point directly to Ballard's use of the literary device. He was crudely trying to assert the industrial iconography of the Cadillac to the equally redoubtable fighter aircraft. I consider it a crude device as the GM Company was indeed involved in war production, but ironically, the Packard Company produced the RR Merlin engine used in the P-51. In Ballard's elaborate "connections to home", Jim wanders a scrapyard in China to discover his father's Packard sedan. Regardless, there is no source that can identify the catchword as wartime in origin. FWiW, the use of the term "Mandarin lettering" was an unfortunate use of the verbatim terminology in the original source document. ] (]) 14:42, 26 September 2009 (UTC).Now, don't over-react on the term, it was what the text used, and after your edit, I retrieved the magazine article and checked the source to see if they had used the word "Mandarin" which it had. Using one word does not imply a copy-viol. FWiW ] (]) 15:04, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
::::The "Cadillac of the Skies" reference has gone the way of the "Billy the Kid/William Bonney" conundrum in that when the legend reads, sounds, looks better than the truth, go with the epic story. I totally embarrassed myself this summer at an air show when the announcer proclaimed the next attraction would be the "Cadillac of the skies", and consequently, a brace of P-51 Mustangs took to the air. I sought him out after the event and asked if he could identify the source of the statement. Not only was he a P-51 Mustang pilot and owner, he was a highly regarded member of the warbird community and basically treated me like the twit I am. He carefully enunciated that he knew that the phrase was from a movie, but who cares, everyone now links it to the P-51, and you know what we old fighter guys think of you know-it-alls? (He didn't actually express the last exchange, but I KNOW he was thinking that!) FWiW, the actual phrase used by Ballard was "Cadillac of air combat" (p. 151) while the screenplay converts that to a number of comments, using the phraseology of "Cadillac of the skies". ] (]) 15:00, 26 September 2009 (UTC).
:::::I have to admit that I am actually enjoying this back-and-forth, as I had placed the edit comment in a kind of snobbish, "so there" kind of way, firmly believing that your original statements were out of the line (which I still believe...) but your recourse to reasoned, articulate discourse has completely disarmed me. As to attribution to a source that I authored, that may be problematic. As a historian (yes, you have to be officially recognized as such in Canada), with nine books and 13 films in my resume, my research on the P-51 Mustang can be traced to a meager two articles for publication and neither dealt with the origins of the type except in a perfunctory way. FWiW ] (]).


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As you just have protected the article there, please have a look at the conduct of ], who is wikistalking me. He had never edited this article before, and now he is reverting my edits in an attempt to provoke me. Jacurek and other Polish editors are currently under scrutiny by Arbcom ] for such disruptive behaviour. --&nbsp;]&nbsp;]&nbsp; 20:56, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
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:::::If people like Flroian want to make reverts, they would do well to ''leave edit summaries'' explaining why. That whole back-and-forth could have been avoided if she had taken the five seconds to say what I said in my edit summary. Next time she reverts like that she's blocked. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 22:43, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
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:That restriction only appears to be about civility, not edit warring. And it's from January 2008, so I don't know if it's even still active. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 23:15, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
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:@Fut.Perf.: <s>You are welcome to unblock Matthead if you think it appropriate</s> (Actually, I see you have done so); I have not because, even if this article was not covered by his sanction (keeping in mind that something does not have to be ''geographically within'' Eastern Europe to be an Eastern Europe-related ''topic''), edit warring is still a violation and he knew he was doing it&mdash;plus, if he thinks that the fact that he can make an argument that this article is not part of his sanctions means he's "entitled" to 3 reverts on it, then he's gaming the system anyway. For what it's worth, I also warned Jacurek about edit warring a few days ago. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 13:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
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::Just noticed the front page. :) Why is the traditional ge pictured, and not the simplified one? I think most people who know only very little Chinese would know the simplified character, but not necessarily the traditional one. Is it possible to change it? ] (]) 08:52, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:::The traditional ver is more detailed, while the simplified ''isn't'' detailed at all, roughly just "an arrow pointing up" to most people. I'd prefer the traditional in this case. --<span style="border:1px solid yellow;padding:1px;">]</span> | <small>—] ] ]</small> 10:12, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
:::It can be changed easily, but I went with the traditional to avoid appearing PRC-centric...also, since I personally know simplified (and the article is written in simplified), I figured it would be most balanced to feature the ''other'' style (instead of featuring "my" style). There are also people out there who believe traditional is the "international standard" whereas simplified is "PRC only". Also, as traditional characters go, 個 is probably one of the most recognizable ones for Chinese learners (others that I learned pretty early were 對 and 學). Anyway, I did put together a mock-up a while ago of a main page with both, but I think it looked too crowded:


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是啊,很好笑吧?说我的编辑是],你简直在耻笑中国人的智慧。我对於你这麽说感到遗憾,希望你下次撤回编辑时,不要抱着说笑的心态!--] (]) 15:48, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
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:”中国人的智慧“我的屁。。。你编辑的并不是智慧,那是不需要的额外句子。此外,你的翻译是错的: "the cars in the road" 是没有动词的句子,应该翻成“马路上的车辆“。可是这种例句不需要,那里已经有例子。 <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 16:04, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
*好啦,你很行。我只是多加几个字就要被你冷言冷语,西方人都来这套吗?还有我发觉你们西方人比不上日本人,日本人都会明确告知哪里有问题,该注意什麽。你们是不是该改进?--] (]) 16:30, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
**其实我觉得我第一次看你编辑有点误会,那时以为是不相于的 可是看错了,现在看得到你的编辑还是有关--抱歉。可是,我还觉得不需要,尤其是在小相片下面,没有空间。再说,如果要加什么usage例句,一定要注意翻译是正确的。 <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 16:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
*没关系,我还是会原谅你--] (]) 16:48, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
**谢谢。中文又不是我的母语,所以快地编辑的时候,我会犯错。。。 <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 16:50, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


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I didn't find this kind of page(Notice:it'n not this ]).In Chinese wikipedia,they have it called ].But I didn't still get a right place,so where's article request which most foreign versions have and english don't?
*中文:我没找到这种页面(注意不是这页条目请求)。在中文维基,他们有这个叫最多語言版本的待撰条目。但我还是没有到正确的地方,所以多外语版欠缺英语的条目请求在哪里呢?--] (]) 17:13, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
**是 ] 吗? 那是 有最多链入页的文章。 <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 17:18, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
***oops, 不是那个。我去打听一下: ]. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 17:20, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
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I am sorry if i've made a mistake.in my opinion,if i want to say:There are clouds in the sky,I would say"天空上有一片雲"(in fact, the chinese version is meaning that there is a cloud in the sky at that moment.).the sentence ”天空一片雲” is not a complete sentence at all,in english,it is something just like "the sky(NOUN) clouds(NOUN)."verb and connectionis are absence in this case.moreover,the word"片"is describing the noun"cloud" but no sky.if we want to describe the word "sky".we could definitely use the word"片",but not in this case.that"s just my opinions <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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This is exactly one of the most confused part of chinese usage.The sentence 天空突然一片辽阔 is, in fact,should be wirite as 天空突然'''變得'''一片辽阔, but for better pronouncing reason or in informal case like lyric ,we can leave it out.of course,this is just exceptional case.no matter in daily life, or formal writing,it is better for us to write 天空突然變得一片辽阔. ] (]) 19:06, 3 October 2009 (UTC)


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I didn't pay attention to that blog,sorry.中文:我没注意到那个部落客,抱歉。--] (]) 18:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
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:Yep, Lu is street :). Jie and Dao also mean street, if you come across them; so are words like Xilu, Nanlu, Beilu, and Donglu ("west ___ road", "south ___ road", etc.). The "Grand Bazaar" has several different names, so I'll look around the map and see if I can spot it; if not, I'll ask a Uyghur friend this week.
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:Haven't found Grand Bazaar yet. But People's Square (also mentioned in the article) is in the middle, straight east of Renmin Park. It's Renmin Square (Renmin = People). Other worthwhile things to mark would be Xinjiang University (lower right...hey, I might even be there next summer!) and Urumqi Railway Station (lower left). <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 00:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:You know what, I bet it's the thing labelled "Erdaoqiao Store" (at the bottom of the orange road). If my memory serves me correctly, the Grand Bazaar and Erdaoqiao are two big buildings in roughly the same area. They're both big shopping centers with lots of booths (similar to ] in Beijing) so the label "Erdaoqiao Store" would make sense. But don't quote me on that; I'll ask someone for clarification tomorrow. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 00:55, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:The other things we need to find are Longquan Lu, Daximen and Xiaoximen (literally, "Big West Gate" and "Little West Gate"), and Shanxi Alley. <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 00:58, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
*Would we all prefer "Renmin Park" or "People's Park"? I'm not sure how ] would work here, e.g. the square in commercial Beijing is known as "People's Square", etc. --<span style="border:1px solid yellow;padding:1px;">]</span> | <small>—] ] ]</small> 01:30, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
**I think "People's" is better...road names are a little tougher ("Jiefang Road" or "Liberation Road"? sometimes English translations of the translate-able street names sound funny... I always preferred "Chang'an Jie", for example, over "Avenue of Eternal Peace", or the laughable "Long Peace Street"). <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 01:33, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
:Oh, '''that''' is "People's Square" mentioned in the ariticle. Ah! I was looking for it... or is there yet another one? seems like everything is "people-ing" in China... generally, I think we should pick the names from the main text. ] 01:34, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
::Nah, this People's square should be the correct one... but yep, just about every city has a "People's ___", "Worker's ____", and "Liberation ____". <b class="Unicode">]</b>&nbsp;<small><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub></small> 01:37, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


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"A 2012 analysis of data on individual participants in acupuncture studies looked at migraine and tension headaches. The analysis showed that actual acupuncture was more effective than either no acupuncture or simulated acupuncture in reducing headache frequency or severity." See Acupuncture#Headaches and migraines. This is a cut and paste from the source.

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According to NCCAM, "results of a systematic review that combined data from 11 clinical trials with more than 1,200 participants suggested that acupuncture (and acupuncture point stimulation) may help with certain symptoms associated with cancer treatments." This is a cut and paste from the article. See Acupuncture#Cancer-related conditions.

Is it a weight violation to use an article that is not a review when there are way better references already in the article or is it plagiarism? The TCM page is a different situation when there are not plenty of sources for the drug research section on pseudoscience. QuackGuru (talk) 02:12, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

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I edited my previous comment and added the source to make it more clear. You brought up the issue of plag on my talk page with a related article. The text in the quotes are a cut and paste but with the acupuncture article the text is not in quotation marks. Let's start with one question. Is that WP:PLAG? QuackGuru (talk) 06:29, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Let me stop you right there. There is no rule saying that if there is other plagiarism (or any other sort of problem) in one article, then it's OK for you to add more. There is no rule saying that if I report one instance of plagiarism (or any other sort of problem) then I have to read the entire article and report every other one. I happened to glance at just that one sentence of the article and its source (that is literally the only source in the article that I opened up and read) and saw that it was obviously plagiarized, so I dealt with it and alerted you to the issue. I am under no obligation to devote myself to scanning the entire article for it, so I'm not sure what you're trying to get at here. If you legitimately don't understand what plagiarism is then I can try to explain it more, but if you're trying to suggest that my notification to you was somehow "wrong" because there are other instances of plagiarism that I didn't report, then you are wasting your time. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:10, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Nature editorial "Hard to swallow" at acupuncture

Greetings Rjanag! I've opened a discussion at Talk:Acupuncture#Citation_out_of_context about the use of the Nature editorial. I've concluded my opinion into four points. Would you care to take a look?

What's substantially different from the usage of the source at Traditional Chinese Medicine, is that when the context of the quote is restored, the whole source is solely about TCM, not about acupuncture. A mere "TCM as mainly pseudoscience, with no logical mechanism of action for the majority of its treatments." alone is undue weight, but if we include the rest of the paragraph in the article, it'd say: "Advocates respond by claiming that researchers are missing aspects of the art, notably the interactions between different ingredients in traditional therapies.". IMHO, it clearly doesn't fit to Acupuncture.

I have suggested removing the unfit entries, and finding for better sources. Administrator Kww, however, replied to me that: " I would like to suggest that the next time you want to misrepresent the contents of a source, you should refrain from doing so.". I'd appreciate if you could have a look. Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 14:32, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

No thanks, I do not wish to continue in the discussions within this topic area. It's like herding cats. rʨanaɢ (talk) 22:41, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Well, I understand you perfectly. Thanks anyway! :-) Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 18:18, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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