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This was initated by ] regarding content of the ] page.--] (]) 11:50, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
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* {{AN3|d}}: While these edits are reverts and do have intervening edits, those edits are not substantial content edits. There are three edits by {{user|Tom harrison}} doing small formatting fixes that do not affect article content, and one edit from a bot restoring an orphaned ref. The edit warring policy states that ''"a series of consecutive saved revert edits by one user with no intervening edits by another user counts as one revert"'' and while there are intervening edits in this case, they are not content-related and are so minor and that I'm inclined to treat Mystichumwipe's edits as one single revert. I believe this is in line with the intended spirit of the edit warring policy, which is designed to stop a back-and-forth revert war over content. That's not what I see here. --] ] 15:23, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


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== Formatted ==

Hello Mystichumwipe. I made some of your 3RR report. Please check to see if I made any mistakes, or undo my change if you disagree. (There were some redlinks and some URLs presented that were not in the usual diff brackets). Thanks, ] (]) 15:35, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
: Cheers m'dear. :-) I've checked and added a few links. But the main thing is that I see now how it should have been done. So... Thanks. I appreciate your help. --] (]) 05:56, 22 September 2012 (UTC)


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added a note re Sam Pivnik and his changing position re Avey on Pivnik's talk page. It may be reverted but you can find it. I think it may interest you ] (]) 17:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

You have e-mail ] (]) 08:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm told by the Imperial War Museum that the full tape of Avey's interview with Lyn Smith from 2001 is now back online. I haven't tested it out
http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80020527
If it works I will want to add links to the tape in the article. ] (]) 17:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

:: Yeah. Well spotted. Good work. Go for it--] (]) 14:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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Hi there. I have a quite wide circle of interests. But to give you a brief idea, specifically I consider my self more than averagely clued up on Middle-eastern affairs, Shabd Gurus and their related spiritual theology; Radha Swami gurus, their lineages and inter-lineage politics; early Christianity; Hindu/Advaita philosophy, etc.
As I explained before, I have used this name for nearly two decades on various discussion groups related to sufism, Radha Swami or Sant Mat related topics. I therefore think it only fair that people who share my interests know who they are talking with. As you can see I have already contributed to the page on Baba Jaimal Singh the 19th century Beas Radha Swami guru. So I hope you can see from that, that my intention is serious, and I am not here to vandalise or spam. You are correct that I recently changed my user name on Wiki to keep it similar to my previous name. Allow me to explain why. I appreciate that to people who don't know me, my name might be considered offensive or frivolous. That is why I hoped this recent small change would fit your requirements and mine. Viz., that the 'new' name 'mystichumwipe' would now not be considered offensive to those seeing it for the first time (which fits your preference) and that to those who know my previous username on associated discussion groups will know with whom they are discussing and thus my credentials ( which fits my preference).
So therefore may I request you to reconsider and allow the inoffensive 'mystichumwipe'.


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:I am not 100% happy with "Mystichumwipe", but I suppose there's nothing really wrong with it, so I will accept it. Please do go for the name change right away. ] (]) 14:54, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
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In my opinion, your latest comment ("Opening comments by Britmax...") was more effective than some of your previous comments by virtue of being concise and making one point.
The block notice above says "At an administrator's discretion, you may be unblocked for 24 hours to file a request". You have been unblocked now for more than 4 days, and shown no attempt to file a request for user name change. Since the unblock was for this one purpose only, I have reblocked you. ] (]) 18:55, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
:I'd ], he seems not to edit very often and may have just lost interest. Or he could be editing under another name already. ''']]]''' 16:13, 28 October 2010 (UTC)


(And to anyone reading this, no, I did ''not'' just comment on whether the argument itself was or was not good and or valid. The above is good advice for either side of the dispute; if you make a single point clearly and in few words, your argument is more effective than a wall of test is.) --] (]) 21:13, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Hmmm? Curious. I was under the impression that I HAD "filed a request for user name change" along the lines we had agreed.
== March 2014 ==
May I confirm that I am just starting out as an editor and have NOT lost interest.
This is proving harder than anticipated to get going.
I don't understand why my name change didn't go through.
I did what I understood was a "file a request for user name change" to the name 'mystichumwipe'. I did that shortly after your request to do so. Within a day as I recall.
A day or so later I tried to come in and do an edit but saw I was still blocked so I assumed that there is some time dealy from your end. Now I have come in to start contributing only to find I am blocked again.
I'm sorry if this is tedious or irritating or if I seem uninterested but that is not the case. Can we not just do a permanent unblocking and I change the name to what we agreed. Does there need to be a time limit imposed upon that? I have other commitments occasionally that make that an extra hurdle to surmount.
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> Ok. I have followed the instructions and requested a username change. I must have done this incorrectly previously. Hope I did everything properly this time. :-)
:Everything should be good, so you can relax now and get to whatever it is you wanted to work on. ''']]]''' 13:14, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
::{{Done}} by {{user|Xeno}}. ''']]]''' 13:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for your notification regarding 'edit wars'. I'm relatively new to this. I made a bit of a hash of my entry yesterday due to incorrectly inserting 'end code' for references and due to not not using the 'preview' option. Thus My triple edits in one 24 hour period. I explain all this in order to avoid being blocked and to ask for leniency. I've got the hang of it now. I have also started a discussion with the other editor with whom an apparent disagreement exists, which you can see here:
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I have asked both editors to discuss on the discussion board and both have not done so yet despite continuing to delete and undo my contributions to the page.


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I see that I am not alone in thinking that the section I have been contributing to appears biased and not neutral. The whole slant of the article is in my opinion very anti the book it is the subect of. I see you have also now made a comment there without adressing or answering any of my points either. I'm not sure how to remedy this and achieve consensus if people delete contributions without discussion first and won't discuss the issues I have raised but merely raise new unrelated ones of their own.
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Years of experience is fine. I am attempting to follow wiki guidelines as scrupulously as possible and I have been attempting to point out where I see the article as it stands infringes these policies. I have answered all points put to me and asked for clarification of contrary viewpoints but yet these and my own questions/points remain in the main unanswered.
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And the fact remains that others before me have raised the same issues that I am now raising without any adequate response that I can see in the discussion board.
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Therefore it does seem on the face of it that a clear bias is in effect in the editing of this page. Is it possible that that can be addressed please. For example it is now required of me to show where my Prof. Sand addition "mentions" the book '13th Tribe'. Yet we have a negative opinion of the book in the article by Bernard Lewis which does not do so. There does therefore appear to be an inconsistency in application of wiki policy in effect here that I have asked for clarification of and none has yet been forthcoming. In that absence of a reply to that, the perception of bias and a lack of neutrality arises which years of experience editing does not diminish.
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{{unblock reviewed | 1=I request an unblock for the following reasons: 1. I have not created multiple user accounts. I have and use only one. 2. I don't understand how I have breached the terms of my previous unblock? I haven't changed my name? Can you explain. 3. Edit warring: I have attempted to comply with all directions to me regarding editing. I yesterday added NEW qoutes and additions all now with specific references from reliable secondary sources. I can only think that one source was of questionable reliability. So I don't understand this either. I did re-add one previously deleted sentence but now I provided a specific source reference (it didn't have that before so contravened verifiability). I don't actually understand why the new material has been deleted as the aim (as I stated) is to add balance and a Neutral point of view to the article in question. The new material I added was specificly discussing the book in question (as requested), and this time had specific references and sources (as requested). Plus I asked for clarification last night on the discussion page regarding why a previous addition of mine had been deleted. So... even if my blocking remains in force an explanation would be good for the future (I have read the unblock page guide to appealing blocks.) Mystichumwipe (talk) 11:56, 28 January 2011 (UTC) | accept=As you will see from my comment below, I am not entirely happy about what you have done. However, I am willing to assume good faith, and believe that saying "I have not created multiple user accounts" was a mistake, as you may have genuinely forgotten an action you took nearly three months ago, and using that account now may have been a mistake, as you say you use that username elsewhere. I suggest being more careful in future. ] (]) 13:17, 28 January 2011 (UTC)}}


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::Hi soap. This is a mystery to me. I have absolutley no idea '''HOW''' I possibly can use the old username. I just type in four tildas or use the sign icon. Are you saying I have two accounts? I can assure that I have not created a new account with the old name. I can see the one edit (last nights) using the old name but I don't understand how I can possibly have logged in to an old account with the old name. That was blocked and then changed. If I haven't (as I have not) created a new account with that name then that shouldn't even be possible should it? (I mean to log into my current and only account using my old name...?)


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:I am confident that the recent use of the second account was an accident. I don't see any way that the creation of the account can have been accidental, and since you were able to use it you must have known the password, so it must have been you that created it. However, I can believe that you created the account back in November (for whatever reason), didn't use it, and over the course of nearly three months forgot you had done so. It would then be very easy to quite by accident log in using the same user name you use on other sites and the same password you use on this account, and for all I know on other sites too. Obviously I don't know that it happened like that, but it seems very likely, and I am willing to believe it. You shouldn't have recreated the account, but if you had forgotten you did so, and using it was a mistake, then that's not worth dwelling on, now that the account is blocked. Regarding the reasons given for your block, "breaching the terms of your previous unblock" and "sockpuppetry" both refer to your use of the "bumwipe" account, which I think I have said enough about. As for "edit warring", you have been warned about doing so, and at first it looked as though using the other account was an attempt to continue to do so under a different name, but it now seems very unlikely that this was so. (It would have been a stupid attempt to do so with such a giveaway username, but I have known editors do things just as stupid as that.) ] (]) 14:37, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I think I now see what has happened. I use three computers. One of these automatically logged me in with the old user name and password. You write: ''the account with your old user name should not have existed''. Well, I have only ever created '''one''' account. A question for the future: by logging in with that 'old' name, is that what you call "recreated the account"? Basically I'm just logging in using different computers. To try and remedy this I have checked how to delete the account but see that I cannot. I can only change the name. Which I/we did. So... unless by logging in using bumwipe I am recreating the old account I still don't really understand how I can still log in with the old name... but... as you say I'll just have to be more attentive.--] (]) 16:08, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


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:::Ouch, better explain that on the talk page. I sympathise. Or even better, a null edit? ] (]) 17:34, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
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I have replied on your talkpage.--Mystichumwipe (talk) 08:32, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
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Cheers m'dear. :-) I've checked and added a few links. But the main thing is that I see now how it should have been done. So... Thanks. I appreciate your help. --Mystichumwipe (talk) 05:56, 22 September 2012 (UTC)


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added a note re Sam Pivnik and his changing position re Avey on Pivnik's talk page. It may be reverted but you can find it. I think it may interest you Sceptic1954 (talk) 17:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

You have e-mail Jim1138 (talk) 08:37, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I'm told by the Imperial War Museum that the full tape of Avey's interview with Lyn Smith from 2001 is now back online. I haven't tested it out http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/80020527 If it works I will want to add links to the tape in the article. Sceptic1954 (talk) 17:10, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating copyright policy by copying text or images into Misplaced Pages from another source without evidence of permission, as you did at Edmond Bordeaux Szekely. Please take this opportunity to ensure that you understand our copyright policy and our policies regarding how to use non-free content. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Moneytrees🏝️ 21:07, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Although only one sentence was problematic, this and a previous warning suggest you still don't understand not to copy from sources. Aside from copyright issues, these edits 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 suggest you may have a point of view incompatible with the project. Moneytrees🏝️ 21:14, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

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Request reason:

I have been blocked indefinitely for supposedly infringing copyright rules. I argue that I did not break copyright rules. I instead referenced briefly some factual information and in doing so I did not copy any verbatim text from the source cited. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Edmond_Bordeaux_Szekely&diff=1017451003&oldid=1016504325 The block was not necessary to prevent damage or disruption. The implication that I have some sort of ‘viewpoint’ that is not compatible with the wikipedia project is given vaguely as merely a suggestion. It appears to be a personal opinion not based in any repeated infringement of wiki policy. Mystichumwipe (talk) 12:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

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Well, first of all you did infringe Misplaced Pages's copyright policy. Minor changes in phrasing such as replacing "lectured and published books" with "gave lectures and published books" are not a defence either in law or in terms of Misplaced Pages's copyright policy: copying does not have to be totally "verbatim". However, that is a fairly minor point. Far more significant is the fact that you have made it abundantly clear over a period of a little more than ten years that you are here to promote points of view on certain issues, and that you are willing to use any kind of method to do so, including misrepresenting sources, attempting to portray what you must know are fringe opinions as though they are mainstream views if they happen to support your point of view, and removing material inimicable to the views that you wish to promote. That has indeed been such a major focus of your editing for the whole of the time you have been here that your presence does very much more harm than benefit to the project, and unblocking you would not be beneficial. JBW (talk) 20:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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None of that has anything to do with copyright, which is the reason given for my blocking. Misplaced Pages has rules for editing, none of which you have shown I have broken. Just picking a few contributions from many and expressing a negative opinion of them ironically is itself not in accordance with the principles of Misplaced Pages as I understand them. Is any administrator going to look at this blocking for copyright? Or is it not really about copyright? Mystichumwipe (talk) 10:27, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Fair enough, the rationale given in the block log and in the block notice both give only copyright violation, whereas it is clear, as you must have been aware, from the comment given by Moneytrees in conjunction with the block notice that copyright was not, in fact the only reason, so I have adjusted the block log to reflect the wider range of reasons. JBW (talk) 20:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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