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== Usurpation of the account Enkyo ==


Hi, Enkyo2. I saw you tried to rename to and it was declined because the name was already registered to a global account. However, if it passed years since the last edit of the account, the ] of the account is available. It will take about ten days after your request if no response to an email notification returned. You can try and leave it for ten days. ―― ] (]) 08:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


: Thank you for your helpful words. --Enkyo2 13:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


:Hopefully we can clear up the simple.wp account too : ]. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">] <sup>'''(])'''</sup></span> 05:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
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==Welcome back==
* Lowry, Paul Benjamin; Aaron Mosiah Curtis and Michelle Rene Lowry. ''Journal of Business Communication'' (JBC), Vol. 41, No. 1, pp. 66-99, 2004.
Hope all is well. ] (] · ] · ]) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
* Zhang, Xiaoquan (Michael) and Feng Zhu. ''American Economic Review,'' forthcoming
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==Nippon Era's==
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Hi I noticed that you contributed a lot to these articles (your name kept propping up in the talk pages) - do you think those era's should be merged together? I mean the Taika (645–650) Hakuchi (650–654) Shuchō (686–686) Taihō (701–704) Keiun (704–708) Wadō (708–715) periods? ] (]) 16:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks for taking the time to tidy up my additions to John Tilley (diplomat). New user and a bit bewildered.


:It is not clear why you seem to suggest that articles about specific ]s should be merged. For example, each of these articles is an independent subject with explicit and different support cited from more than one ]:
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:For me, the point of your question is not understood. --Enkyo2 12:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
== Neutral notice ==
As an editor with an interest in New York City articles, you are invited to participate in an RfC at . --] (]) 21:35, 25 June 2013 (UTC)


== Re: Moving of "X family" to "X clan" ==
== AFD ==
I have nominated two of your articles for deletion (] and ]). I know you're banned from editing now, but if you wish to participate in the AfD discussions, I will make a request to one of the bigwigs at ArbCom on your behalf. Can't say it will do anything though. After your probationary period is over, I also recommend that you consider deleting most of the idioms that you've added to Misplaced Pages (after copying them to Wiktionary if they're not already in there), according to the recommendations at ]. Things like "learning the hard way", "teachable moment", "square peg in a round hole", etc. belong in a dictionary, not an encyclopedia. ] (]) 08:41, 23 January 2010 (UTC)


Regarding the series of moves your Ansei account made at the start of May, could you be a bit more careful? Most, if not all, of them were/are ''branches'' of Fujiwara/Minamoto/... clans, rather than clans themselves. I've already moved Nijo back, and will work on the others in a bit if you don't wanna do it yourself. Cheers! ] (<small>]]</small>) 13:48, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
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== "Jimmu" and others ==
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That's an exceptionally thorough FU rationale that you wrote for this image! However, because it is from 1748, the author has certainly been dead for more than 70 years. Even if the publisher of the reproduction claims copyright, we can disregard it as an ineligible claim. If you read , you might save yourself some time writing FU rationales in the future... Thanks,]] 17:07, 17 April 2010 (UTC)


Enkyo, why did you ] when you had clearly already seen on the talk page where I had pointed you to the Misplaced Pages style guideline where we ''have'' an established consensus on how to romanize that?? ] (<small>]]</small>) 15:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
== Friendly Suggestion ==


Hi Enkyo,
Tenmei, just a friendly suggestion--ArbCom is now voting on allowing you to resume editing under the guidance of your mentorship committee. I suggest that you stop posting to the Arbcom clarification page now and let them vote without prejudice. Your posts are sometimes rather inflammatory and borderline disrespectful. Just stop posting altogether and let them vote now. Just a suggestion. (] (]) 19:06, 27 April 2010 (UTC))
: I will stop posting altogether. --] (]) 19:10, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


I opened an ANI thread on you. This is not personal, and it's not about content (where I ''think'' I agree with you). It's about your use of language (and images, etc) on talk pages. Very difficult to understand. Maybe someone needs to teach you how to communicate on Misplaced Pages. This seemed the easiest way.
== Arbitration motion regarding ] ==


Cheers!
Resolved by <span class="plainlinks"></span> at ] that:
<blockquote>1) {{User|Tenmei}} may edit Misplaced Pages under the guidance of his self-declared mentors ({{user|Nihonjoe}}, {{user|Kraftlos}}, {{user|Coppertwig}}, {{user|Leujohn}}, {{user|Jmh649}}, {{user|McDoobAU93}}). The period of mentorship will last six months from the date on which this motion passes, although it may be extended with the agreement of Tenmei and one or more mentors. Tenmei is strongly encouraged to seek advice and guidance from his mentors regularly. Should they deem it necessary, Tenmei's mentors may return to the Arbitration Committee for clarification of any editing restrictions or questions with respect to the terms of mentorship. Editors who come into conflict with Tenmei are advised to contact the mentor(s) either publicly or via email.<p>
2) Tenmei is reminded of the remedies from ] that apply to him. Specifically:
:*Tenmei is topic-banned from ] for a period of six months. He is permitted to comment on the talkpage, so long as he does so in a civil fashion. (The six-month period will commence from the date on which this motion passes.)
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] (<small>]]</small>) 14:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
For the Arbitration Committee, ] 15:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
:Hi Enkyo2, I haven't had time to look at this but appears to be the same old; I think you're a great, v.interesting, and v.informative communicator; my advice would be not to get bogged down in discussion with someone who thinks fit to write like this but to move on to one of the tens of thousands of other pages which need your time and learning, ] (]) 21:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
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::Links to related threads are and . --] (]) 13:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)


{{outdent}}I added an inline-note which mirrors . A review of the guideline page history shows that these sentences were drafted by Jpatokal in 2004 and the section was created by Nihonjoe in 2008 . The guideline suggests "Use Google to check popularity if in doubt, and create a redirect from the n version" -- compare the list of Google Books Ngram Viewer results posted by Kusunose .<p>Since 2009, there have been similar notes in the first paragraphs of articles about ], ], ], ] and ] -- compare ]. These spelling notes were each deleted by Hijiri88 with unhelpful edit summaries:
==Congratulations ==
* 14:05, 22 August 2013 . . Emperor Temmu ‎ (''WP:SELFREF, WP:POINT.'')
Hey Tenmei Congratulations you are finally allowed to return to editting. Drop me a note if you have any concerns.] (] · ] · ]) 18:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
* 14:08, 22 August 2013 . . Emperor Kimmei ‎ (''WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.'')
* 14:12, 22 August 2013 . . Emperor Mommu ‎ (''WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.'')
* 14:16, 22 August 2013 . . Empress Gemmei ‎ (''WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.'')
* 14:19, 22 August 2013 . . Emperor Kammu ‎ (''WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.'')
This is moving in the wrong direction. --] (]) 20:09, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
:A review of the edit histories of these articles and most others about the ] reveals a cross-checking system of cited sources. This includes ]'s 1980 translation of ] and ]'s 1979 translation of ] -- compare ]. See JSTOR reviews of Brown's work and Varley's work . --] (]) 12:57, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


== Enkyo '''PLEASE''' be coherent and stop making unrelated rants on talk pages ==
==Reference creater==
Hey Tenmei here is a great tool for creating references. All you need is one piece of info and it formats the rest. More of use for pubmed citations but though you might find it useful ] (] · ] · ]) 03:55, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
::BTW this tool can also be used for the ISBN number of books such as here ] (] · ] · ]) 02:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


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:This is a ] for continuing a pattern which is difficult to parse neatly -- see and . The fact that this is a pretext needs to be made explicit. I can only hope that the mere act of naming it will diminish its power to cause harm. --] (]) 12:50, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
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::Enkyo, please see my for you to respond in this ANI thread. ] ] 21:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


==ANI==
A comment that another made about you has been quoted at ]. Do not worry the editor whose conduct is under discussion is not you. You may want to take part in the discussion.--] (]) 10:01, 7 September 2013 (UTC)


] Hello. There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. <!--Template:ANI-notice--> Thank you.
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:Enkyo, please could I ask that you engage in this discussion at AN/I, rather than suspending editing and waiting until it has been archived? It may be a coincidence that you restarted editing just after the previous thread was archived, bit if so it's an unfortunate one as it gives the appearance of trying to escape scrutiny. Now, if you have resumed editing again could you please join the AN/I discussion? To be honest, I find Hijiri's complaints a little shrill and repetitive, but equally I have to say that I find your communication style opaque and unhelpful. The problem between the two of you is not going to go away if we ignore it. Please join the discussion. ] ] 15:27, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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::Enkyo, I looked at your contribs to see whether you had again ceased editing while the new ANI thread is open and found . I assume it's your response to the ANI thread but I strongly advise against you posting it in this form. As it stands it entirely vindicates Hijiri's point that your communication is verbose to the point of impenetrability. Post it if you will, but expect that it will make your opponent's point for them rather than strengthening your own position. ] ] 21:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
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==Stub templates==
Hi Tenmei !
I saw that you've started adding stub templates to various japanese mathematicians. I don't think that is really a good idea in that form. A single stub template might encourage a reader to contribute, though it often not really required. However this list of stub templates in article probably is more likely to irritate readers (personally I think it looks outright ridiculous).--] (]) 21:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
:The fact of the matter is that a wider than average range of stub tags were added because similar articles already had different tags. Which was best? Which was tangential? Rather than making any guesses, I carefully respected the decision-making of those who originally added these various tags. In adding them to similar article, I simply replicated the decisions others made. As for what it all means in terms of practical consequences, who knows?


== Blocked ==
:It is impossible to know how valuable or useless these kinds of tags might be. If this trivial gesture served to invite or encourage the contributions of a range of editors, good. It seemed a small enough step in a constructive direction.


Per the results of the recent ANI thread about you , I have blocked you from editing for an indefinite period. You may appeal for an unblock (to the community or to Arbcom) if and when you can demonstrate that you have understood what has been wrong about your communicative behaviour, and can make a credible commitment to improve. Until such time, I am afraid the community has run out of patience with you and you must be prevented from editing. ] ] 12:30, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
:You think the tags are too many -- fine. This mild concern is easily resolved.


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Hey Tenmei,


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edit is not always a useful one. I often have a hard time researching/checking books from sources and citations here and, like you, I search with google books. Now I suppose this particular book (Journal of education) is on google books making the deleting of the quote less harmful in this article, but we shouldn't delete "in-article quotes" for the sake of it being hard to find some books so easily. :)
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Anyway, with that edit you also deleted Balbus the Younger :P but it's okay. I'm not a native English speaker so I do not feel extremely strongly about the article, but I found it rather weird you deleted it :P
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The thing I wanted to know was that


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"Most of the questions are infantine and less amusing than the prehistoric ] and his wall: "Is there an elephant in the class-room?"." __________. (1915). ''Journal of education,'' Vol. 37, p. 288; a '''factoid''' that "Balbus built a wall" comes from a Latin exercise book in use in British Empire education around 1900 -- exercises from Latin to English, ''vice versa'' or both with sentences like "''Balbus murum fecit''."
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says '''factoid'''. Did that mean that the phrase "Balbus murum fecit" did not come from the Latin-Enlgish exercisebook? why doesn't it say where it actually comes from since someone on wikipedia thinks of it as a ], I didn't understand that. So I asked on the talkpage, but I see your point when you said "off-topic". The rest looks fine to me now


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Greetings :) ] (]) 16:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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:I regret causing this off-topic problem.


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:In my search for information about the idiomatic expression "]," I encountered a number of things I didn't understand. If something was off-topic, I set it aside. I did not use all the information I discovered. This is normal, is it not?


== Cleanup for old User page ==
:The ] (OED) explained that the expression seems to have been coined in '''1959'''. I also remembered reading an inconsistant sentence in a '''1915''' British journal. Per ], I posted the OED as a cited ]; and I paired it with a linked citation which contradicted the '''1950s''' date. I hoped this would create a foundation for further investigation and clarification.


Hi, Enkyo2! This is to let you know that I have blanked the content from your old User page (]). That page is now a redirect to your current User page (this page), so nobody will ever see the content. But because the old User page is now a redirect, the content was interfering with the Help page for the Japanese language template. So I deleted the content. Is that OK?<br>
:For the purposes of our Misplaced Pages article, the '''1915''' rhetorical question stands on its own -- "Is there an elephant in the class-room?" I was puzzled by the context; and I was vexed that I couldn't understand it. Perhaps I should have left it for someone else to ]? Instead, I reasoned that someone checking my source citations would likely wonder about the off-topic context in which the ] was found. This is reasonable, is it not?
The content is still available in the history page of your old User page (]), so you can view it at any time. And the redirect from your old User page to your new one still works properly, so I think that should be OK. If you have any problem with all of this, you can undo it simply by undoing my edit. Thanks, and thanks for your contributions to Japanese history. -- ] (]) 14:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


== Proposed deletion of Tom L. Humphries ==
:I googled "balbus"; and a short blog-thread suggested helpful theories . In addition, I located the following excerpt from a 1906 book review in the ''New York Times''.
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:* "Some years ago an educator had an idea; instead of requiring his pupils to write about Balbus and Caius, who always "muros aedificabant," he had them translate into Latin stories of Padius, who built the stairs in his new house very steep, because he said he found that for one time he went up them he came down half a dozen times. That idea made even Latin prose composition interesting to the compositors." -- ''New York Times Review of Books.''February 3, '''1906'''.


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:In Google books, I searched for "Balbus murum fecit," and the first "hit" identified the phrase as an ancient paradigm. This led me to conclude that I had encountered one of those phrases which were assumed to be common knowledge. In other words, I guessed that this Latin phrase was considered within the English lexicon of the Victorian era. If 21st century readers like me don't understand the context and signficance, that knowledge-gap is not necessarily significant.
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:I also found a book which mentioned Balbus in the context of an elementary textbook . I leared that James Joyce incorporated references to Balbus in the pages of ''].''


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:As I read it, the noun "factoid" bears no realtionship to the explicit provenance of the phrase. Children in the 19th century learned to write by copying and translating the Latin phrases about the Romans. For example, my guess is that the textbook which was famous around the turn of the century was perhaps this one -- Heatley, Henry Richard and Herbert Napier Kingdon. (1882). Oxford: Oxford University Press.
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§ 21. (a) The Relative is used to avoid repeating a word<br>
(called its Antecedent) already used once.
''Video murum, quern <b>Balbus aedificavit</b>.''
/ see the wall, which Balbus built.
If there were no Relative we should have to say,
''Video murum, et <b>Balbus eum murum aedificavit</b>.''
I see the wall, and Balbus built that wall.
Thus it has also the force of a Conjunction, and serves<br>
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:It is a fact that Balbus and his activities are linked to childhood learning, but anything about what Balbus did or did not do would have been a mere factoid in the absence of other corroborating data.


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:I wonder, did Balbur become something like an "elephant in the room?" --] (]) 21:32, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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Wow, at first I thought you had it mixed up, but I had not read your explanation well enough. I understand it now :) I will be honest with you, though. The way you put it confused me a bit, but in the end the sources you provided gave me enough to understand what you said. About the R. J. Schork "Latin and Roman culture in Joyce", the Balbus mentioned there (and consequently James Joyce's A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man or just Portrait how Schork calls it) is on a graffito painted by some English schoolboy on a door of a closet. So that is not actual usage of Balbus in schoolbooks, but of course it shows that "Balbus built walls" was used to teach those kids. :)
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Oh yes, the Balbus actually ''is'' the Elder and not the Younger, because of the triumvirs and relation to Caesar. I noticed you already knew that ;)
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About the relation between Balbus and the elephant in the room phrases, I think (I'm not a native English and I don't live in 1915, so I don't know) that the phrase 'elephant in the room' was by the time worn out, but not as much as 'Balbus built walls' (at least from 1882-Gradatim, an easy Latin translation book- to 1915-Journal of education-). The writer of the Journal of education did find Balbus more amusing than the elephant, though.
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///// I've done the research and Chikanobu documented, employing triptychs, the "Korean Disturbance/Uprising"(*1), the First Sino-Japanese War, and the Russo-Japanese War. In other words, there are dated, signed triptychs which is sufficient proof (I hope for anyone), that he documented these wars. An auction house pamphlet, in my mind, is poor documentation - these houses can and do make errors; on-line ones, such as artelino, have been known to make errors as well, and quoting them as sources is not as reliable as reading the date and signature on the actual print.
*1 The Satsuma Rebellion/Boshin War (I prefer to think of it as "The Japanese Civil War") may have been documented first-hand; that and the "Korean Disturbance" may have been documented with single ōbans, as well as triptychs.
I don't know if it's your error as an editor, or a reprinting of the actual entry in Christie's and the entry in Gobrick's, (footnote #'s 4,5,6,8) but Chikanobu's art name was Yōshū Chikanobu, not Yoshu Chikanobu. The "ō" is not the same letter in Japanese as the "o" and the "ū" is a different letter than the "u." Any source that mistakes the two letters is not to be regarded as reliable in any way; if the source cannot spell an artist's name correctly, then any other information that source propounds must be regarded with question. Would you confuse zahler und zähler; would you confuse ano y año? If the dash above the "o" and "u" is not available to the editor, then the simplification of "ou" and "uu" may be employed.
In the near future I'm going to attempt to improvethe English you've employed; it is choppy and lacks coherence. If you wish to discuss my changes in this format I'm quite compfortable with it..
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::::What I'm trying to understand is the concept of "''verifiabilty''."
Is this a writer who states something in a published article/book?
Is this a piece of printed, dated, and signed artwork (which is obviously "published"), such as woodblock prints made during the Meiji era?
If there should be a conflict between the magazine article written in the 21st Century and published in a current magazine/journal versus the woodblock print, which is more "verifiable", or is stating the information seen on the piece of artwork considered "primary research"?] (]) 20:38, 30 July 2010 (UTC)


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I have changed the "formatting information" to a repeating footnote.
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==Treaties on Kashmir ==
Would you be comfortable with:
"He also created works which illustrated the period of domestic unrest which led the ] supporting the shogunate into an uprising against the Emperor which might have delayed Japan's entry into the modern world." rather than:
"He also created works which illustrated the period of domestic unrest which encompassed the ] uprising which tried to delay Japan's entry into the modern world."
I'm afraid nuances of the word ''encompassed'' doesn't provide the meaning I wish to impart. ] (]) 21:14, 1 August 2010 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 00:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Various scholars have written on the Instrument of Accession (Jammu and Kashmir), The Treaty of Lahore (9 March 1846) and the Treaty of Amritsar (16 March 1846). But very little of that text is on wikipedia.
:: I would recommend the removal of footnote #6:^ Gobrich, "Edo to Meiji," Japan Times. March 6, 2009; excerpt, " was originally a samurai vassal of the Tokugawa Shogunate who saw action in the Boshin War (1868-69), which ended the country's feudal system." this is alreaady encompassed in the obituary. Do you feel that another citation by Gobich is required? ] (]) 21:14, 1 August 2010 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:23, 31 July 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::::<b>GENRES</b> What I would like to accomplish (with your help) is to place a copy of http://chikanobu.com/shinrefer.asp #28 just to the right of "bijin-ga" as an example. ] (]) 00:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
:://// It works rather well - thank you. But I would like to place 5 more examples (from 5 different series) across in a row under bijin-ga next to the one I've placed there already, to demonstrate why he was considered a master of this particular genre. Can you tell me how to accomplish this?] (]) 20:34, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
:://// Would appreciate any comment re the current image display format] (]) 18:28, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
::////Re the triptychs: I would be happy to bow to your aesthetic sensibilities, but I think the layout looks far better with only two triptychs per row.] (]) 20:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
:://// What I would like to accomplish in the "genre" section is the placement of differing size thumbnails horizontally adjacent; e.g. placing a triptych (widths=300px heights=150px) next to a oban yoko-e (widths=150px heights=100px) on the same row (rather than vertically - easily done but usig too much space). Can you suggest a method?] (]) 18:42, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you, but I decided to take a different tack to enter/format the different size images.] (]) 07:48, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
:::: I corrected the date (Meiji 8) to 1875 from 1876. Reference "The Kanji Dictionary" by Spahn and Hadamitzky, Tuttle, Boston**Tokyo, 2nd Printing, 2002, pg. 1664 (as well as many other resources). 1868 was 元年 gannen the first year of a reign. For simplicity I subtract 1(one) from the first year and add the number, e.g. Meiji 8 = 1868-1+8=1875.] (]) 00:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
::::: Yes. For your convenience in future -- see ]/] conversion chart associated with succession box at bottom of the page at ]. --] (]) 02:10, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


Maharaja gulab Singh originally worked for the Sikh Empire. But then betrayed the Sikh empire by siding with the East India Company in the Anglo-Sikh War. His name is mentioned in the treaty of Lahore too. He collected Taxes for the East India Company and the money was then given by him to the East India Company.
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Hello Tenmei. I feel honoured by your request. However, I am no Shakespeare, either. :-) From what I take from the comment by the arbcomm member, you have every right to post your view in the RFC/U as you've just done so, so no worries. :-) Regards ] (]) 19:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, I read your outside view, it certainly looks moderate and forward looking and you've done a good job looking at the issue from different sides. Im not the best at copy editing Im afraid, especially when I dont really understand where someones comming from. Despite mostly likeing your view I havent endorsed as I dont agree Teeninvestor should be under any preasure to comply with the "desired outcome" unless he wants to. It might seem to imply that hes admiting hes at fault, and yes while theres been some valid criticism that I hope he takes on board, I dont think the RFC overall has been fair to him. Anyway Im not planning to take much further part in it, lets see what others think. Thanks for the note! ] (]) 20:07, 22 July 2010 (UTC)


The Treaty of Lahore (9 March 1846) and the Treaty of Amritsar (16 March 1846) lapsed under Article 7 of the . The Act was passed by the British Parliament on July 18, 1947 to assent to the creation of the independent states of India and Pakistan. The aforementioned Article 7 provides that, with the lapse of His Majesty’s suzerainty over the Indian states, all treaties, agreements, obligations, grants, usages and sufferance’s will lapse.
==Treaty of Chemulpo==
These works documented the Korean Riots of 1882 leading to the ],
Why was this removed - there are prints signed by Chikanobu in existance documenting this problem .
] (]) 19:01, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


The 7 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh Bahadur (Sikh) was under the control of the East India company when he sign The Treaty of Lahore on 9 March 1846 which gave Jammu and Kashmir and its people to the East India Company.
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Under the British legal system and international law a treaty signed by the 7 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh Bahadur and under duress is not valid. (The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void.)
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We may need to add a section on the impact on the removal of Article 370 of the Indian constitution on The Instrument of Accession too.
Good job, great article. Where did you get the idea, out of curiosity? ] (]) 17:15, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
None of this text is on there.
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Various scholars have written on these treaties, for example Alistair Lamb disputed the validity of the Instrument of Accession in his paper
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Where he writes ''"While the date, and perhaps even the fact, of the accession to India of the State of Jammu & Kashmir in late October 1947 can be questioned, there is no dispute at that time any such accession was presented to the world at large as conditional and provisional. It was not communicated to Pakistan at the outset of the overt Indian intervention in the State of Jammu & Kashmir, nor was it presented in facsimile to the United Nations in early 1948 as part of the initial Indian reference to the Security Council. The 1948 White Paper in which the Government of India set out its formal case in respect to the State of Jammu & Kashmir, does not contain the Instrument of Accession as claimed to have been signed by the Maharajah: instead, it reproduces an unsigned form of Accession such as, it is implied, the Maharajah might have signed. To date no satisfactory original of this Instrument as signed by the Maharajah has been produced: though a highly suspect version, complete with the false date 26 October 1947, has been circulated by the Indian side since the 1960s. On the present evidence it is by no means clear that the Maharaja ever did sign an Instrument of Accession.''
A prime hypothesis is that the available material about subjects unrelated to Japan will have evolved in a way which is identifiably non-Japanese; and the small differences, disjunctions and commonalities will be illuminating in unpredictable ways. My guess is that the number, range and quality of unintended consequences will be expanded and enhanced.


''Indian troops actually began overtly to intervene in the State’s affairs on the morning of 27 October 1947''
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''It is now absolutely clear that the two documents (a) the Instrument of Accession, and (c) the letter to Lord Mountbatten, could not possibly have been signed by the Maharajah of Jammu & Kashmir on 26 October 1947. The earliest possible time and date for their signature would have to be the afternoon of 27 October 1947. During 26 October 1947 the Maharajah of Jammu & Kashmir was travelling by road from Srinagar to Jammu. (The Kashmir State Army divisions and the Kashmiri people had already turned on him and he was on the run and had no authority in the state). His new Prime Minister, M.C. Mahajan, who was negotiating with the Government of India, and the senior Indian official concerned in State matters, V.P. Menon, were still in New Delhi where they remained overnight, and where their presence was noted by many observers. There was no communication of any sort between New Delhi and the travelling Maharajah. Menon and Mahajan set out by air from New Delhi to Jammu at about 10.00 a.m. on 27 October; and the Maharajah learned from them for the first time the result of his Prime Minister’s negotiations in New Delhi in the early afternoon of that day. The key point, of course, as has already been noted above, is that it is now obvious that these documents could only have been signed after the overt Indian intervention in the State of Jammu & Kashmir on 27 October 1947. When the Indian troops arrived at Srinagar air field, that State was still independent. Any agreements favourable to India signed after such intervention cannot escape the charge of having been produced under duress. (The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void.)"''
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Additionally Maharaja was on the run. The prevailing international practice on the recognition of state governments is based on the following three factors: first, the government’s actual control of the territory; second, the government’s enjoyment of the support and obedience of the majority of the population; third, the government’s ability to stake the claim that it has a reasonable expectation of staying in power. The situation on the ground demonstrates that the Maharaja was not in control of the state of Jammu and Kashmir and was fleeing for his life and almost all of Kashmir was under the control of the Kashmiri people and the Kashmiri Army that had rebelled against him. His own troops had turned on him. With regard to the Maharaja’s control over the local population, it is clear that he enjoyed no such control or support. The people of Kashmir had been sold by the East India Company and he charged them high taxes thetefore the Kashmir Muslims, Hindus Pandits and Buddhists hated him. Furthermore, the state’s armed forces were in total disarray after most of the men turned against him and he was running for his life. Finally, it is highly doubtful that the Maharaja could claim that his government had a reasonable chance of staying in power without Indian military intervention. This assumption is substantiated by the Maharaja’s letters.
:::Haha, great. I just noticed that it wasn't created until after ] got a DYK and I was wondering if that had triggered the interest. But I see you have a much broader learning objective and I think that is great. I find, when I am writing papers for school, I can do work on Misplaced Pages that will help me become much more familiar with how the knowledge behind the subject comes together. And in anycase, boldness in new subjects often creates great learning points. Keep it up, and if you need someone to review something, etc. Feel free to contact me, ] (]) 02:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


Many of these treaties apply to Jammu and Kashmir. The is already on Misplaced Pages. It is internationally recognized as a disputed territory under various United United Nations resolutions that are already listed on Misplaced Pages , ,, . There is a lot of documentation on Jammu and Kashmir in the UN already. If you look at the page , it already contains sections on the "Indian view", "Pakistani view", "Chinese view", "Kashmiri views". May be we could do something like that with these treaty pages. The Treaty of Lahore was signed in 9 March 1846 and the Treaty of Amritsar 16 March 1846. They predate the creation of both modern day India and Pakistan. The Treaty of Lahore was signed between the Sikh Empire and the British government. It is an international treaty and comes under international law. ] (]) 11:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Currently the pages on Jammu and Kashmir are very fragmented. Its difficult to navigate through the pages. May be have a page on the treaties that apply to Jammu and Kashmir and link these to actual history events. The reader could then click on a link, obtain a more indepth knowledge of the treaty, its relationship with other treaties and the events surrounding it. Therefore providing them with a more educational understanding of these treaties. There is a lot of literature on these treaties, that we could use for references. There are also multiple parties to these treaties and we could link to them too. Many books and scholarly papers have been published illustrating the details surrounding these treaties. May be also create subsections on these pages illustrating the views of the Government of India, The view of the Government of Pakistan and the view of the Kashmiri Parties, The Government of China, The United Nations, The Sikh Empire and the British Government on these treaties. On Misplaced Pages we have the text on the various treaties but it does not show how these treaties relate to one another. We need show how they relate to one another and the events on the ground. We need to enhance the experience of the reader. ] (]) 14:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hmm about the first one, originally the inline citation for the sentence "''Recently appointed heads of government, namely British Prime Minister David Cameron and Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan, made the G8 and G-20 summits their first diplomatic conferences''" (which was actually cited on the sentence after this sentence) did not exactly mention the Muskoka and Toronto summits as the first "diplomatic conferences" for David Cameron and Naoto Kan after being elected. Instead, I believe the cited source only mentioned their presence at the summits, but not whether it was their first or not. So since the sentence "''Recently appointed heads of government, namely British Prime Minister David Cameron and Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan, made the G8 and G-20 summits their first diplomatic conferences''" did not initially have a citation for itself and for a more clearer verification, I cited another source that mentioned that both the Muskoka and Toronto summits were the first summits for Kan and Cameron.
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And the second one, pretty much same as the first but was done inadvertently. Back in June I slightly misquoted the original statement from the source, so during the GA nomination correction, I had to copy the quote from the source correctly so that both quotes matched word to word. Hope these help and thanks for fixing up the rest of the errors on the article! ] (]) 02:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
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Hi! ] recommended you as an expert on Asian horses. For ] (唐鞍) I am struggling a bit with the meaning or translation of Japanese terms (I don't know anything about horses, which makes it very hard to make sense of it.). Maybe you can help. The terms in question are: 八子, shirigai (尻繋), sashinawa (差縄), aori (障泥), uzu (雲珠), munagai (胸繋), ginmen (銀面). For most of these terms, I have a vague idea of what they are (translations or suggestions nevertheless welcome). The only term which I cannot really make sense of is hassi/hane (八子). (also see ]) Would be great if you could help me. ] (]) 21:27, 13 October 2010 (UTC)


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* ] &mdash; which consists of: saddle, stirrups, halter, reins, girth strap and bit. ''See'' images #2 and #4.
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I don't understand this . Maybe you can explain what problems you have with the 順風相送 reference? ] (]) 00:42, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
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Hello. Certainly there's no disputing the fact that the book is now in the public domain. However, it is less sure that the pictures we have are in the public domain. If they were scans or photographs that just showed the pages ("faithful reproductions of two-dimensional public domain works"), they would surely be ok and could be tagged with {{tl|PD-art}}. But they might not be. ] (which should be {{tl|PD-art}}) is something that clearly is a "faithful reproduction". You may can see a difference between that image and the Ninhon Odai Ichiran ones. So far as fair-use is concerned, there are photographs and scans of the translated book, and the Japanese original, out there on the internet which would surely by {{tl|PD-art}} rather than having to be fair-use. The book could even be photographed in a library, so that a non-free image would be replaceable.
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:Yes, you identify the same problem I encountered when I was uploading similar images. The least controversial choice was to upload under ] guidelines. I can continue to wait patiently while discussions about this subject slowly unfold. --] (]) 21:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


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== Please slow down on ] ==
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While I think that the edits you are making to ] seem okay, you're making so many that it's very hard to keep up. Can you pause for a bit for other editors to review your work? If you don't what may happen is that someone will disagree with an edit you made ten steps back, and then end up reverting a lot of your edits in a row, even though many of them were useful. For such a contentious article, moving slower is better, I think, even on non-contentious issues. We have shown over the past several weeks that even things that seem non-controversial to one editor actually turn out to be a significant problem for others. I believe that a collaborative atmosphere will be increased if you don't make so many edits at the same time. There is no deadline--even though the article has a lot of problems, there's no big loss if some citation or spelling isn't perfect today. Of course, you are welcome to ignore this; I'm just trying to think about how best to improve the editing atmosphere there. ] (]) 03:20, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

== RFC ==

I am ] for ]. Since you are a regular participant of the page in the recent times, it would be appropriate to notify you of the discussion I started. ] (]) 23:20, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

== Senkaku--please stop ==

Please immediately stop adding more information to the dispute section of ]. We very intentionally moved all of the dispute information to ]. The ] article should contain information about the islands themselves--geographical, botanical, etc. It should, in addition, contain a few paragraphs summarizing the dispute--who is involved, what are the arguments in a very very simple short way, and '''that is it'''. At least 4 different editors have said that what is there now is too much, and yet you're adding more and more. You are not only editing against consensus, you are making highly controversial additions on what is clearly a highly contentious article. Please stop--you have to understand you are making a difficult situation much worse by not checking for consensus first before making major changes. ] (]) 07:23, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
:Again, don't feel discouraged by this. Even if the content is too detailed for the ] page, it may still have its place in the ] page. ] (]) 07:46, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

== ]? ==
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Why are you linking articles to the above non-existent article link? ] <sup>]</sup> 21:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
:I'd assume Tenmei has not noticed the ] you started. While I doubt I will care to participate in it, I think it will be fair for him to know some people are deciding whether or not his page should be scrubbed. ] (]) 02:38, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
::Are you referring to me? I didn't start the discussion. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:26, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
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]: This thread begins with a negative assertion, a . It signals a ] filter which rejects all comment. --] (]) 14:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:My question was not rhetorical, nor was it setting you or your answer up to fail. ] <sup>]</sup> 23:53, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

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==Yale University‎==
Hello, I've posted on ] in regards to your concern about purging the list. This has been a regular occurance which has been discussed before on many ] and wikipedia articles in general. The usual MO is to allow a little "bragging" but not to duplicate too much of the list article. If you disagree with a particular removal I can understand that but as it is a lot of lesser-notables had been added over time. ] (]) 14:43, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== Bilater/multilateral in Article: Treaty ==

No offence Tenmei, but the edits you made confuse the matter more for me. The material you added switches between referring to states, parties, and countries. Moreover, even under the analysis presented, it's still wrong by definition to say that a bilateral treaty can have more than two ''parties''. As for whether a treaty between an international organisation and a state outside the organisation is considered bilateral, can you post a link to the actual agreements between Switzerland and the EU on the articles talk page (]); or if not that, a cite; or if not that, the specific name of the treaty. I'm still looking at removing the section and working one or two sentences into other text as any more would be undue weight on the matter, but even shortened, I do want it to be correct. On a more positive note, I hope I can find the Nicolson work in the library. Great to have a reference. In this case a more general, modern replacement might be better in the future, but solid start. ] (]) 20:32, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
:We are on the same page . The unsourced material is now removed; and the three remaining sentences are very short and clear -- see snippet in a 1988 reprint of Nicolson's slim book.<p>When I encounter text like this, my normal editing strategy involves adding innocuous prose which is scrupulously cited; and then I wait to see what happens.<p>In this specific instance, my guess is that the awkward parts of this section had to do with the the ] which was signed in the town of ], in 1985. The provisions of the Schengen treaty were absorbed into ] (EU) ] by the ] in 1999. As you may know, the "Schengen area" officially includes three non-], ], ], ], and ''de facto'' includes three European micro-states, ], ], and ]. Without a specific cited source, this remains no more than an hypothesis. --] (]) 21:35, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

== Duplication ==
===Stop===
] -- Do not post any more diffs on this page.<p> I will not respond.<p>This cannot continue.<p>
This is an impossible-to-follow attack because
* <u>you</u> changed words while I was responding to them -- not good
* <u>you</u> re-ordered the sequence of <u>my</u> diffs -- not good
* <u>you</u> altered the thread in ways which change meaning -- not good
This makes it impossible for <u>me</u> or anyone else to follow the thread of discussion you have shredded.<p>This makes it impossible for an objective observer to parse the development of this thread.
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<big><b>THESE WORDS WERE DELETED</b></big> <br>
Why you copy and paste exactly same thing at eveywhere? duplication. I feel likeit should be removed. Even same sentence at martime boundary page is out of topic. ] (]) 06:24, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

<big><b>THESE WORDS WERE SUBSTITUTED</b></big> <br>
Hey, thanks for your work on the articles about the martime boundary with both korea. I'm especially grateful for the sources you've been able to find and add; they are a valuable resource for anyone doing research on these topics.

<big><b>THIS SUBSTITUTION CREATES DISJUNCTIVE RESPONSE</b></big><br>
:] -- As you must know, there are common elements which link each of the individual articles which deal with the chronology which has unfolded in the Yellow Sea since 1953.<p>It bears repeating for pedagocial emphasis that these articles <u>do</u> have some things in common.<p>I have been re-writing and re-configuring the sentences which mention these common factors. The editing is chiefly concerned with ensuring that the new sentences fit into the flow of several articles which were conceived and drafted by others. At this stage, my primary objectives concern parsing the cohort.<p>In other words, my "]" contribution focuses on these common elements. Others are focused on other parts of a complex narrative.<p>Your question and comment cause me to ask two questions
:* Is there a specific set of sentences which bother you? If so, please share the diff with me so that I can look at it.
:* What article or article especially deserved my immediate attention?
: Thank you for your interest in my recent edits. If there is any part of this response you don't understand, please let me know. I will try to explain again in different words. --] (]) 06:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Please see. ]
:unnecessary duplication of content, '''significant overlap with the topic of another page''', and minimal content that could be covered in or requires the context of a page on a broader topic.
--] (]) 06:51, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
: Thank you for sharing this link; however, there is a significant difference between articles which are unavoidably related and those which are the same. This accounts for the edits I have made, but again, I can only ask for more specificity. If you identify a specific sentence, I will be glad to work with you. --] (]) 06:54, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I wanted to let you know your copy & paste edit significant overlap with the topic of another page.
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For more information, you can read ]
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=== POV word ===
Your POV wording is not discussed yet. Don't revert again. ] (]) 07:02, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
: There is nothing objectively improper or problematic in any of my edits. You seem to have a subjective problem. Discuss this on the talk page as my revert suggested. Whatever your problem might be, this is not the venue for addressing it. --] (]) 07:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
::] -- I see from your contributions that you have been contributing to Misplaced Pages since 2009; and therefore, it is reasonable to ask you to indent your comments so that the sequence of diffs is less confusing.<p>I will not respond to these complaints here because the article talk page is the appropriate place for it. However, I will say that it will take me longer to respond than it took for you to type this bullet list. You will need to allow a more reasonable time frame for responding.<p>As a gesture of good will, I have responded already to one very simple problem. The word "unilateral" is in the text of the ''Time'' article which supports the sentence in which you discovered cause for offense. You can read this article for yourself by clicking on the embedded ] which was always part of the inline citation.<p>The mere fact that you use the short hand letters "POV" proves that you are familiar with the way things work in our Misplaced Pages venue. Good. We are in agreement in the pursuit of neutrally-written prose in all articles, and especially in ones which are topical and controversial. --] (]) 08:11, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

=== Overlapping Topic ===
Your copy & paste style edit is significant overlap with the topic of another page
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In addition, ] page is significant overlap with ] -- ] (]) 07:20, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
:] -- Thank you for this list. I will take a second look at each; and as I re-read the sentences, and I will think of ways to edit them. However, the overlap of topic is not a problem I recognize; rather, these are necessary enhancements of missing aspects of these related articles.<p>IMO, this should be continued on the talk page of each of the articles you have listed above. This will take some time. No one can be expected to address these kinds of issues quickly. I cannot accept the unstated premises which are not explicit, but only implied. --] (]) 07:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I urge that you should better stop overlapping same topic on the many pages. For example, your recent edit at ], ] almost same thing. You can using overlapping topic with <nowiki>"{{main|....}}"</nowiki> tag. it will make it sound much more reasonable and verifiable.
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=== Dispute section of ] ===
] page should be like more academic, geologic. This page is not not history of war. this content already overlapping with ]. If you think dispute section we needed. then what justificable reason? ] (]) 07:11, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
: There is nothing objectively improper or problematic in any of my edits. Without more specific explanation, I can only guess that you have a subjective problem. Discuss this on the talk page as my revert suggested. Whatever your problem might be, this is not the venue for addressing it. --] (]) 07:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

I feel like entire "Disputes" section should be removed.
# Out of topic
# Same section already exist ]
# Only one case is pointless
# the example is not the good case. two conflict is "Inter-Korea" dispute. Not international dispute.
# Editor's own POV Problem. (eg. '''unilaterally''' drawn)
# The editor justified this section. "Many disputes have been resolved through negotiations, '''but not all'''." I feel nonsense. This is not inductive logic. ] (]) 07:47, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

=== Duplicated wording ===
"There is nothing objectively improper or problematic in any of my edits. Without more specific explanation, I can only guess that you have a subjective problem. Discuss this on the talk page as my revert suggested. Whatever your problem might be, this is not the venue for addressing it. --Tenmei (talk) "
:Like your edit style, Why copy and paste '''this''' same sentence at every discuss topic? --] (]) 07:57, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
::The function of repetition is to create ] and ]. I wonder what part of the following is not understood? In this talk page thread, that question is rhetorical; but in the proper talk page venue, the same question is reasonable and appropriate.<p>For emphasis and clarity, I repeat:
::A. There is nothing objectively improper or problematic in any of my edits. If you will allow time to do it, I can and will support, defend or explain each sentence.
::B. Without more specific explanation, I can only guess that you have a subjective problem. You are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
::C. Discuss this on the talk page as my revert suggested. You have an obligation to explain per ]. Please do so.
::D. Whatever your problem might be, this is not the venue for addressing it. The talk pages of the articles you are following have talk pages for just this sort of thing. --] (]) 08:18, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
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] -- Your rapid cascade of diffs come too swiftly.<p>The speed of one new diff after another allows no opportunity to respond.<p>You block meaningful response by posting additional complaints; and this stifles any chance for responding to anything.<p>As I explained again and again, your complaints can be posted on the appropriate talk page, but your gambit is no longer tolerable here.<p>Stop. Your aggressive actions undercut any arguable point you might otherwise seek to make. --] 09:12, 27 November 2010 ] (]) 18:04, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

:You attitude is highly uncivil. You should better focus on content dispute, not personal attack. See ], ]. And, By you request, I will not post at here. ] (]) 09:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

::Hello, I will not interruption your edit. if you want delete this section, do it freely. I think dispute is waste of time. ] (]) 18:11, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
{{outdent}}Tenmei, I've been loosely following this dispute. I understand you have a fascination for your particular type of linguistic style, but even scientific publications written in English do not follow such a convoluted style of communication. You might find it easier to convince others of your position if you express yourself in a clear and concise manner. ] (]) 22:08, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

:My response has two parts
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:: ] -- Yes, "clear and concise" is a conventional ]. As a general rule, the phrase is almost always good advice -- but not in this istance. In small ways, my writing has been modified by this wiki-collaborative writing experience; and I presume you intend your critical comment as a kind of encouragement. Thank you for your good intentions; however ....
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::<u>On the other hand ...</u><br>
::] -- No, your comments are not fair. Your assessment is not justified in this thread.<p>The otherwise all-purpose ] is off-target. This is because the organization of serial complaints was entirely the work of ].<p> In contrast, my diffs are only responsive.{{Col-end}}
:I hope I could have done something which would have converted this into a more profitable investment of time and thought; but what? I don't know.<p>In the immediate press of rapid-fire, sequential diffs, my initial task was simply to respond -- to demonstrate that I was (a) willing and able to acknowledge what ] was posting and (b) willing and able to engage the substance of what was in the jumble of diffs.
:To sum up: ]'s overwhelming diffs allowed no possibility for "clear and consise" analysis nor for crisp prose. --] (]) 22:52, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

== Re: ] ==

It is not difficult to make and upload an alternate version where only 1 to 3 are marked. But I think we don't need to have such one. You see, now the place in this map are numbered in an order of importance, if you want the description more simple, just have 1 to 3 described (or 1 to 6, which includes the 2 large cities ] and ]), and ignore the rest, like the one shown on your right. If someone just want to know what 1-3 are, that'd be fine. If someone want to see more details, he could click on the map and view the details. --] (]) 04:41, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

== Your requests for commentary ==

I noticed you posted ] for commentary on a number of users' talk pages regarding the Senkaku Islands naming issue. My caution is that the selection of users you chose already have a pre-defined opinion on the issue (especially for John Smith's, who had already made clear his position). Since this RfC is about getting opinions of new people, I'd suggest you to instead get the attention of other non-regular users from Project China or Project Japan that you trust to be able to make objective analysis.

At the same time, you'd also want to see if ] applies to RfC's. If so, you may want to avoid doing that. ] (]) 20:24, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

:] -- No, this illustrates a common English idiom &mdash; ].<p>If you review the RfC thread, you will notice that each of the ones I contacted were contributors in one narrow section of . If you re-visit the edit history of , you may notice that the blandly written messages were serially posted in the same chronological order as each of the participants' initial edits. No, there was nothing wrong. This was a good thing to do.<p> Yes, I am aware of ], but this was not canvassing in any sense.<p>What is more relevant is this: You have rightly complained that the RfC comments thus far were too limited, too superficial. You arguably anticipated more engagement and greater dialog; and I had hoped for more, too. In response to your express concerns, I invited added involvement from those who might have been inclined to think that, having already posted one ], there was no need to re-visit any issues which might have been overlooked. <p>Please re-read the carefully drafted message which invited explicitly <u>constructive</u> responses to <u>a question you have identified as an alternate way of expressing a core issue</u>. I invite no specific action other than expanding the scope and quality of discussion. My overview comment is neutrally presented, identifying only the history which underscores this as one crux of disagreement.<p>On further reflection, perhaps you will come to see that this is precisely the kind of timely invitation which enhances our prospects for developing a broader consensus.<p>As an acknowledgement of this misunderstanding, I can do no more than to copy this to the RfC thread. This creates an opportunity for others to help me make better guesses about how this perceived problem might have been avoided. Perhaps there will be suggestions about how I could have written differently --] (]) 22:22, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
:::I haven't accused you of ]. Rather, I was simply reminding you not to be careful about that. I wrote the comment partly because I haven't seen some of the more prominent Senkaku Island editors being invited (i.e. ], ], ], and especially ]). As one might find, their opinions on the matter can be expected to be ''quite different'' to the ones you've invited. ] (]) 00:22, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
::::I take your point. Would it be perceived as a welcome gesture if I were to try to reach out to these formerly-active contributors at ] and ]? If so, I will gladly invest the requisite time. --] (]) 01:30, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
:::::To be honest, I personally don't think it makes a difference--either those people already have the article on their watchlist, or they are no longer interested in the issue (or possibly on temporary or permanent wikibreak). However, I do think it might show a wider sense of "fairness" if those 4 people were also invited (actually, 5--] used to be active on the issue, too). I recommend that Tenmei do it, simply so that way it's not like "I'm inviting my side, you invite your side." I can see why Tenmei didn't previously invite the others; none of them have edited the article or talk page in the past month--I had to go back more than 500 edits in the history to find them (okay, PalaceGuard made an edit about 480 edits ago). Also, note that when I opened the RfC, I posted a message on the talk page of what I think are the relevant Wikiprojects: Japan, China, Taiwan, and East Asia. I think ] was smart to add a note to the talk page for Naming Conventions. If there's any other places (noting, of course, that we can't just go spam some place like the Village Pump), feel free to notify them as well (or ask me to, I don't mind). -- ] 01:57, 1 December 2010
:::::: As a gesture of cooperation &mdash; and because of suggestions made by ] and ], I invested some time in reaching out to a few former-contributors who may still have an interest in ] and the ]. I invited and encouraged further comments from these five:
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::::::However, I note that none have otherwise expressed an interest in the narrowly focused issues of our RfC. --] (]) 07:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

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; Copyright violation

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::I thought I understood; but my understanding apparently needs to be tweaked. When the edit was questioneed, I asked for more information so that I could modify the edit accordingly. Please restore the image so that I can modify it based on what I have struggled to learn in the past two days. --] (]) 02:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:There's no way you can 'modify' the image to make it acceptable to Misplaced Pages. This is why I am saying you appear to have NO understanding of the policy. Any image for which there is a free alternative may not be used on Misplaced Pages. This was an image of a public parade in the US. Images from commercial sources may only be used on Misplaced Pages if the image itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article. All that stuff you keep repeating about the image's market role is nonsense - what it means is that you have to use low res, cropped images, to minimize the chance that people who would otherwise pay for images will just steal them off Misplaced Pages instead. You may not use a non free image in an article unless you can comply with all 10 points of the policy, and understand the guidelines at ] --] (]) 02:38, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

; Advice

You will not be allowed to keep four non-free images in that article, so pick one, and argue to keep that.

Use in Misplaced Pages must be transformative. The guy who took all the little pictures of ] and used them to make a big picture is an example of transformative. Using a copyright photograph in a photography course, to show how the photographer created the image is transformative. Writing a paragraph of text on how the image became the subject of poster campaigns, or how it shows clearly the damage to buildings which was not covered in the official news reports, these are all transformative. The articles into which you insert your images steadfastly refuse to mention the images at all in any way anywhere.

I cannot put this too strongly. You keep saying that your images are the subject of sourced commentary, when they are most definitely not. ''The published image of the man watching the re-broadcast event in the context of a subsequent clash is itself the subject of commentary rather than the event it depicts (which is the original market role)'' suggests that you have understood the more complicated part of the requirement (that it is the image, rather than the event, which is the subject of commentary), but "The subject of sourced commentary" does not just mean that a third party has published the image.

It means that in the article you want to add it to, you have some content IN THE ARTICLE which not only refers to the image, but is derived from a reliable source <u>talking about the image</u>.

Neither (''a) to identify what the DPRK-ROK clash looked like, '''nor''' (b) to assure the readers that they have reached the right article containing description and critical commentary,'' are valid fair use reasons to use a commercial photograph. (b) is not a valid fair use reason for anything except book/album covers, film posters etc.

You may not use copyright images where there is, or are likely to be a free equivalent. Not a free identical image. In some case the equivalent will be text. You may not use images where text will do. The image must say something that text cannot - such as ]. No amount of words can adequately convey the transformation from ]. You have to see it. Your images fail, because they convey virtually nothing about the events you are describing.

In other cases, the answer will be a different image. I'll bet you can get plenty of images of South Koreans looking at tv screens in stations. Why is it so significant that you can see that they are watching a broadcast of old newsreel.

''Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey event, would tarnish or misrepresent its image, or would fail its purpose of identification or commentary '' is meaningless, and boilerplating it into every fair use rationale is not doing you any favours.] (]) 15:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

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;Copyright violation

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I recommend that you do not upload any more images from commercial suppliers. You seem to have no understanding of Misplaced Pages's ], and the use of such images on Misplaced Pages is a copyright violation. --] (]) 02:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
::I thought I understood; but my understanding apparently needs to be tweaked. When the edit was questioneed, I asked for more information so that I could modify the edit accordingly. Please restore the image so that I can modify it based on what I have struggled to learn in the past two days. --] (]) 02:13, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
:There's no way you can 'modify' the image to make it acceptable to Misplaced Pages. This is why I am saying you appear to have NO understanding of the policy. Any image for which there is a free alternative may not be used on Misplaced Pages. This was an image of a public parade in the US. Images from commercial sources may only be used on Misplaced Pages if the image itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article. All that stuff you keep repeating about the image's market role is nonsense - what it means is that you have to use low res, cropped images, to minimize the chance that people who would otherwise pay for images will just steal them off Misplaced Pages instead. You may not use a non free image in an article unless you can comply with all 10 points of the policy, and understand the guidelines at ] --] (]) 02:38, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

;Advice
You will not be allowed to keep four non-free images in that article, so pick one, and argue to keep that.

Use in Misplaced Pages must be transformative. The guy who took all the little pictures of ] and used them to make a big picture is an example of transformative. Using a copyright photograph in a photography course, to show how the photographer created the image is transformative. Writing a paragraph of text on how the image became the subject of poster campaigns, or how it shows clearly the damage to buildings which was not covered in the official news reports, these are all transformative. The articles into which you insert your images steadfastly refuse to mention the images at all in any way anywhere.

I cannot put this too strongly. You keep saying that your images are the subject of sourced commentary, when they are most definitely not. ''The published image of the man watching the re-broadcast event in the context of a subsequent clash is itself the subject of commentary rather than the event it depicts (which is the original market role)'' suggests that you have understood the more complicated part of the requirement (that it is the image, rather than the event, which is the subject of commentary), but "The subject of sourced commentary" does not just mean that a third party has published the image.

It means that in the article you want to add it to, you have some content IN THE ARTICLE which not only refers to the image, but is derived from a reliable source <u>talking about the image</u>.

Neither (''a) to identify what the DPRK-ROK clash looked like, '''nor''' (b) to assure the readers that they have reached the right article containing description and critical commentary,'' are valid fair use reasons to use a commercial photograph. (b) is not a valid fair use reason for anything except book/album covers, film posters etc.

You may not use copyright images where there is, or are likely to be a free equivalent. Not a free identical image. In some case the equivalent will be text. You may not use images where text will do. The image must say something that text cannot - such as ]. No amount of words can adequately convey the transformation from ]. You have to see it. Your images fail, because they convey virtually nothing about the events you are describing.

In other cases, the answer will be a different image. I'll bet you can get plenty of images of South Koreans looking at tv screens in stations. Why is it so significant that you can see that they are watching a broadcast of old newsreel.

''Any substitute that is not a derivative work would fail to convey event, would tarnish or misrepresent its image, or would fail its purpose of identification or commentary '' is meaningless, and boilerplating it into every fair use rationale is not doing you any favours.] (]) 15:47, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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==Talk back IChemE==
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==Advice==
Yes I am good with staying involved to a limited extent. ] (] · ] · ]) 04:01, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
:Thanks. --] (]) 04:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

== Thanks for incorporating my suggestions! ==

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:Thanks for your non-edit war comments! You are applying imagination and intelligence to the article. Only the basic problem is that "The NLL is the NLL and the MDL is the MDL, and never the twain shall meet." Best regards. --] (]) 22:20, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

== Your recent note ==

Holiday activities have kept me from looking into the matter about which you left a note on my talk page. (I'm only checking my watchlist and maybe writing a little for the next week or two.) I try to be of help when I can, and if there's something ongoing after Jan. 3, please remind me. Best wishes for 2011, ] (]) 15:41, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

==Unnecessary move/dab on SS ''Bonnington'' and others==
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I tried to undo your name change but for some reason cannot do it, maybe because the new ] was somehow changed without "move"; can't find it in the move log, too big. All of these name changes you've made are not needed and contrary to WP:MOSNAME, where disambiguation is only used to distinguish between similarly-named items/objects. The "SS" format is standard for steamships in WP:Ships, and is also "most common usage"; there was no need ''at all'' for these moves, and they will also make linking to these items more complicated; please undo them all and bear in mind taht disambiguations are, again, ONLY for situations when there might be two vessels named Bonnington; unlikely that there would be a ''Sicamous'' or ''Moyie'' or ''Minto'', also. Please also, without wishing to be tart about it, consider that developing the content of these articles is ''far'' more important than moving about the deck chairs, as name-moves of this kind are really only about. There is no need to "harmonize" article-name formats of this kind. It's more important to expand the articles; and always keep in mind t he utility of a link/name format. If for one don't want to have to type "(sternwheeler)" and then pipe and retype the actual name afterwards; I really would rather just type "SS Bonnington" and link that.....] (]) 21:58, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

:See
:* 20:08, 27 December 2010 ( | hist) m Sicamous (sternwheeler) ‎ (moved SS Sicamous to Sicamous (sternwheeler): naming consistent with other steamboats in CPR lake and river fleet)
:* 20:28, 27 December 2010 ( | hist) m Bonnington (sternwheeler) ‎ (moved SS Bonnington to Bonnington (sternwheeler): naming consistent with other steamboats in CPR lake and river fleet)
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:No. --] (]) 05:15, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

== Names in Early Historical Context of Senkaku Islands ==

I am unsure as to why you made where you deleted a mention of how the early Japanese text 順風相送 referred the island as "Diaoyu". While I suggested to keep the name usage as neutral as possible, I believe what the island was first called is quite relevant. If you feel the need to add in a Japanese-usage reference, feel free to dig up some legacy European-drawn Asian map that uses Senkaku Islands instead.

I am not going to revert your changes since I don't want to bother with page-long discussion, but this is something for you to think about. ] (]) 02:01, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

== Japanese era names ==

These changes were made, incidentally, in the course of other minor fixes. The change simplified the markup <code><nowiki>]</nowiki></code> to <code><nowiki>] name</nowiki></code>. If this is incorrect, I'm sorry, but it was the original markup that was wrongly piping to a redirect, which I wasn't aware of. I didn't cause the problem, merely brought it to your attention. I will adjust my regexes so that any future conversions will change this link to simply <code><nowiki>]</nowiki></code>. ] (]) 19:21, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
:I'm going through simplifying the <code><nowiki>]</nowiki></code> link, and unlinking <code><nowiki>]</nowiki></code>, along with the odd minor fix here and there; if there are any other small tweaks that could usefully be made at the same time, let me know. ] (]) 22:54, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

==Better source request for File:Ackerman1822.jpg==

Thanks for uploading ''']'''. You provided a source, but it is difficult for other users to examine the ] status of the image because the source is incomplete. Please consider clarifying the ''exact'' source so that the copyright status may be checked more easily. It is best to specify the exact Web page where you found the image, rather than only giving the source domain or the URL of the image file itself. Please update the image description with a URL that will be more helpful to other users in determining the copyright status.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source in a complete manner. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following . If you have any questions please ask them at the ] or me at my talk page. Thank you. ] (]) 16:57, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
:This is exactly what it purports to be -- the title page of a book published in 1822.
:* 1822 -- a description of the Feasts and Ceremonies observed throughout the year at their Court; and of the Ceremonies customary at Marriages and Funerals: to which are subjoined, observations on the legal suicide of the Japanese, remarks on their poetry, an explanation of their mode of reckoning time, particulars respecting the Dosia powder, the preface of a work by Confoutzee on filial piety, &c. &c.'' by M. Titsingh formerly Chief Agent to the Dutch East India Company at Nangasaki. Translated from the French, by ] with coloured plates, faithfully copied from Japanese original designs. London: R. Ackermann. .
:Ackerman is a well-known British publisher in this period.<p>I don't understand this question. I don't understand what is perceived as unclear. --] (]) 17:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
::Tenmei, it's obvious it's a scan of the page - what the book is about is irrelevant. What Sfan wants to know is where you personally got the image from, so that you could upload it. You say it was from NYPL - where on NYPL did you find the image.] (]) 13:26, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:::This title page image does not come from an internet source. --] (]) 14:27, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
::::This could be the cause of the confusion. If you made a scan of the book, then under 'source' you should put "I made this scan myself from a copy of the original 1822 publication" or similar wording. I don't believe anyone can hold a copyright in the original London publication after all this time - it would only still be in copyright if it had not previously been published in the US and what you scanned was a facsimile copy which was published in the US more recently than 1923. You need to take down the NYPL tag if what you scanned was a copy of the original publication, as NYPL would not acquire copyright just by possessing a copy. If what you scanned was a facsimile copy made by NYPL, then you need to say that and give the date of the facsimile copy. ] (]) 14:36, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
:::::Behold I have fixed it. Book published 1822, author died before 1910, PD-old is the template you require. Nobody holds the copyright in it, the photocopy and the scan are both just exact copies of work in the public domain, and are therefore public domain themselves] (]) 02:40, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
::::::Thanks. This is good to know. --] (]) 02:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

==Talkback==
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==SS Princess Alice (1911)==
An issue has been raised at ] about this article, which you created. Maybe you can clear up the confusion? ] (]) 07:30, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

== Template SS - how to dab ==

Hi, re {{diff|South Eastern Railway, UK|prev|407348572|this edit}} - all you needed to do was insert the year 1844 as second parameter, as in {{tlx|SS|Princess Mary|1844|2}}, which displays as {{SS|Princess Mary|1844|2}}. --] (]) 22:17, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

==Many thanks==
Many thanks for your always impressive work. All the best in the new year. --] (] · ] · ]) 23:00, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

... for sorting out and sourcing ].--] (]) 08:04, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

==Thanks, Tenmei! ==
I just wanted to say thank you for the very productive discussion regarding WorldCat Identities/Tanaka Ichimatsu. The revised sentence, acknowledging the nature of the data, and rounded in the manner you have done, IMO, is highly appropriate. As you know, I am very new to editing on WP, and this initial attempt has been a very helpful learning experience. I know you must be busy, but if you have time to look over the current state of the Tanaka Ichimatsu article and let me know your thoughts on my edits, I would really appreciate it. If the opportunity arises, I look forward to working with you in the future. ] (]) 02:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

==Thanks==
For the support and the kind words.] (]) 08:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

===Pt. 2===
Thanks for the all the work you have done. After seeing Kintetsubuffalo's note, I believe we perhaps should both cool it down and talk it over.
I am amazed by the complete lack of ANY reaction on the project's page. I was expecting a lot of discussion.
- ] (]) 07:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

== Thank you ==

Thank you for weighing in on my talkpage, trying to help. Right now I'm too angry and too close to look at this objectively. It feels like an attack on the entire belief system, and it is not the prevailing view by any means. My late Wife was a Miko-san, so it's something I know more than a little about, despite urashima's claim. I believe there's a false dichotomy at play here. It may only recently have been called Shinto, but the basics are the same as the pre-Buddhist fusion, as far as anyone really knows. Anyway I'm in no mood to discuss it with someone like that, not now.

Nice daruma by the way!

I should just take a bath and go to bed. I won't-too much to do yet.

Thanks again, sorry for rambling.--] (]) 14:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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== Put the spade down and stop digging ==
Later, in the Japanese argument section, it says, "A world atlas published in November 1958, by the Map Publishing Company of Beijing, treats the Senkaku Islands as a Japanese territory." This statement does not need a "Japan claims that," because this is a statement of fact. It is fundamentally different from the claim about the Remin Ribao article, which is an interpretive act.
<s><small>It appears you love to '''ENDORSE''' for ]. I should view your ''endorses'' in a different light in the future. ] (]) 03:24, 30 January 2011 http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Japan&diff=prev&oldid=387502817

It seems you are accusing others of being "provocative" after you unjustifiably accused them of edit-warring. I am not exactly sure how these things work. I guess, in your book, a simple apology and acknowledgment of error is a bit too much to ask for. ] (]) 16:48, 30 January 2011</small></s>
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== Talk pages messages ==

Hi Tenmei. Thanks for your messages, but I'm not sure I have time to wade through all that. I'll keep tabs on the articles and contribute when I can, but I think it's best if you just make simple and short points on the article talk pages. You tend to write too much. Thanks. ] (]) 21:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

== Response ==

{{Talkback|HXL49|Warning}} --]], and ] 23:12, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

== Japanese rulers ==

Who are you and why do you constantly put fake citations and cut-and-paste paragraphs for the Japanese rules? I want to know why you think it is appropriate. Thank you. ] (]) 19:51, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

:Yes, responded. --] (]) 21:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
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::::] -- <s>No -- absolutely not. I don't know whether it is more constructive to label this ] as a ] or a ]; but perhaps a label is unnecessary.</s> Perhaps a clear, direct "no" will be a sufficient acknowledgment of another missed opportunity. <small><s>Tenmei 17:20, 17 February 2011</s></small>
::::The collapsed excerpt from the MOFA Q&A webpage illustrates the ]-problem at "B"-above. In response to Q4, four bullets identify selected illustrative examples: a letter, a newspaper article and two atlas maps published 30 years apart. Yes, we agree when you acknowledge that a published map In contrast, nothing can be construed as verifying this: . This very, very carefully considered, narrow, ]-based and ]-based objection is not a ] -- not ], not ]. --] (]) 21:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
::::*<u>Question</u>: Why is the map construed as a fact? In other words, why is the article construed as non-fact?
::::::Context: On the MOFA webpage, the atlas maps and the ''Rinmin Ribao'' article are bullets of conceptually similar illustrative examples. These which are offered for an express purpose -- to rebut a Chinese argument. This focuses attention on the dubious difference or distinction which ]'s rewrite presumes.
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This wrongfully legitimizes and encourages the so-called "''fraudulent translation''" and "''obviously wrong''" tactics and strategy of ].<p> Mirroring the pattern of ]'s reasoning in October, this is -- to imply or "advance a position not advanced by the sources".

::::Mirroring again: Unless you have a reliable sources that states that the these bullet items are dissimilar or unless you have a reliable source which states that the ''People's Daily'' article is opinion, then this is a seemingly trivial compromise which harms Misplaced Pages and our ] project.


::::::FACT: Despite countless requests for ] to provide support for assertions, none have been forthcoming.
::::::FACT: Despite no ] + ] cooperation, ]'s<u> extreme ] generosity</u> informed a salutary willingness to proceed as if ]'s unsupported ] were equivalent to conventionally verified.
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# Proposal A> "Some sources, such as researcher X and the Japanese government, claim that a 1953 Remin Ribao article indicated that... (ref ref ref); however, source Y says that that interpretation is a mistranslation of the original text, which actually meant...(ref)." Or, in other words, what I'm trying to say is that I believe Bobthefish2 that the Chinese was mistranslated, but I'm loathe to abandon WP:V just based on AGF-ing him. Qwyrxian 01:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
* Proposal B> "Japanese and sources point to a People's Daily article which said that 'Ryukyu Islands consist of 7 groups of islands including the Senkaku Islands', based upon which they inferred that Senkaku islands was the part of Japanese territory". Ohconfucius 02:36, 8 February 2011
* Proposal C> "What I am advocating is that the Senkaku Islands dispute article should contain one sentence, no more, no less, that acknowledges that the Japanese government uses the article to advocate its position, without advocating that the argument is valid or invalid." Nlu 20:50, 10 February 2011
* Proposal D> The Japanese government and numerous Japanese researchers have claimed that a 1953 article in "The People's Daily", a daily newspaper which is the organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China (CPC) stated that the Senkaku Islands were a part of Japan. This argument was made on the grounds that the article listed the Senkaku Islands as a constituent of the Ryukyu Islands and that the Ryukyu Islands is the same as the Okinawa Prefecture of Japan. Bobthefish2 05:16, 11 February 2011
* Proposal E> Right, well I would propose that we start at the beginning. First we need to say that an article was published in the People's Daily in 1953 (maybe being as specific as to say 8 January 1953), criticising the US occupation of the Ryuku Islands. The issue is what comes after that .... If it was stated that the Senkakus were part of the Ryukus, then it's not so much implied as acknowledged that they were Japanese. It's not like China was claiming the Ryuku Islands. John Smith's (talk) 20:22, 15 February 2011 (UTC) -->

== Need Help on ] page ==

Tenmei,

I have started to add some new information to the entry, from the official website of the 2011 G-20 summit in France. Also, added a couple of the attendees confirmed to attend summit. However, I have left some information out and need your help to edit some of it in and help me edit out some information that may not be true in the entry. Thanks ] (]) 22:04, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

== Opportunity to comment on ] ==

There is a discussion starting up at ], that may be of interest to you. The subject is technically a page move discussion, but the purpose of the discussion is to decide where ] should redirect. Until earlier today, ] redirected to ], but during this discussion, it is redirecting to ]. Your comments and suggestions are welcome.

Thanks for your help. ] (]) 22:38, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

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== RFC on Bobthefish2's misbehaviour ==

Hello ], how's it going? It appears that ] has filed a complaint of misbehaviour on ]. Since I am under the impression that you have much to complain about this pesky Chinese editor as well, your opinion on this is going to be very helpful to our friend ] cause. ] (]) 19:15, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

== ] locked ==

Hi ],

How are things going? It appears that both ] and ] are now ] due to edit-warring. Since we have so far not found a way to conduct collaborative editing, do you have any advice as to how to fix address this problem? I notice that ] was an active participant in both edit-wars and had been the primary cause of ] being locked on a previous occasion in October 2010. Do you think you can gently converse with him on how his aggressive behaviour can be detrimental to the editorial process of Misplaced Pages? After all, the two of you share the same native language and appear to exchange e-mails.

Thanks. ] (]) 20:55, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

== Foreign relations of Japan ==

I consider your re-adding of a blatant POV pushing section, coupled with your prior comment on the talk page that strongly implies you edited this information on ] because the SI articles are locked, to be very strong evidence that you may be incapable of following ], and are seeking to use Misplaced Pages as a ] to support your own person POV. I reverted your edits for a very clear, very obvious reason; it was your responsibility to then go to the article talk page and discuss that problem (]), not simply revert without explanation. I strongly encourage you to undo your re-addition of that information and discuss on the talk page.

Furthermore, your continued refusal to provide talk page comments that can easily and simply be understood by other editors, despite having been told numerous times that such behavior is hurting collaboration, is a form of disruptive editing. This is particularly problematic when other editors like myself have asked you for simple requests, and you have refused. This, coupled with your refusal to enter mediation, make me question whether it is possible for you to edit collaboratively.

I'm about 2 cm away from filing an RFC/U on your behavior. Out of due deference to the fact that I believe you have the ability to contribute positively, I am asking one final time for your behavior to change. I'm asking that you edit, on both article and talk pages, in a way that is both NPOV and collaboratively. Please demonstrate to me that you are able and willing to do so, so that I do not need to take such a drastic step. ] (]) 02:19, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

::] -- NO, your words are acknowledged. Threats are unwelcome. <p>Characteristically, your opinion is bolstered by neither research nor citations.<p> In contrast, this table has both -- including the explicit links to the MOFA webpage which identifies an approach to foreign relations which you feign not to understand -- see "Image" column. You reject wholesale as a strategy. Since you demonstrate that you are either unable or unwilling to ask questions about this, your judgement becomes dubious. You are welcome to express an opinion about what you believe is appropriate or relevant in this article or any article, but it is only that -- your opinion.<p>In the context your judgment and words have created across a span of months, this is an unreasonable step in the wrong direction. --] (]) 02:15, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
{{outdent}}] -- The POV I support is ] + ] as a threshold. Each specific edit supports ] -- not anything else. No single edit can be characterized as non-neutral. The only POV my individual and cumulative edits express is in support of academic credibility for our ]. For you to imply otherwise is unseemly. It is undeserved. --] (]) 02:32, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

:That's a clear enough answer for me. Have you actually read ], by the way? It's a common mistake that people make that every thing that can be verified must go into articles; what ] actually says, though, is that unverified information can't be in articles. It does not at all imply that verification is sufficient for inclusion. Furthermore, ] is only one of many different policies, of which ] is the other.
:I will, of course, inform you once the RFCU is filed. It may take awhile, though, because I've never had to file one before. ] (]) 02:37, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

::] -- YOU are going to complain about this table as proof of NPOV? Really? Think again. This is not a good step in a constructive direction. The fact of the matter is that you have allowed yourself to become a ]; and for what? You have lost the objectivity with which you started, and that is a problem which remained unaddressed. It is unaffected by anything I do or write. --] (]) 02:47, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

:::Let's calm down. By the way, ], it appears the RfC on Remin Ribao has some pretty mixed opinions. Since I am no longer that interested in the issue, I'd say we should try to wrap that up quickly instead of dragging this on. One thing I'd like you to do, however, is to reply to the latest responses to the thread... specifically, and .
:::Even though both ] and ] are locked due to edit-warring, there's little reason to drag matters. ] (]) 03:23, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
::::Can I assume a lack of response as conceding? ] (]) 20:36, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

== WP Japan in the ''Signpost'' ==

"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Japan for a ''Signpost'' article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, ''']'''. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -] (]) 04:05, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

== Collaborative Editing ==

It appears you have withdrawn from the discussion on the Remin Ribao article topic. At this stage, it has become more apparent than ever that the original content associated with the article is malformed. Editors from the NPOV board supported this notion. Since you refused to reply or concede, my impression is that you are attempting to filibuster the discussion. This is not a good editorial practice and certainly not good for our continual collaborative editing.

Your writing style is also presenting a serious communication issue. By now a fair number of editors have expressed a similar view and consider posts you wrote to be difficult to follow. If you are ], then you may want to consider to stick with the Japanese Misplaced Pages instead. ] (]) 01:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

== RFC/U ==

I have filed ] on you. You can see the RFC/U at ]. At this point, you don't really need to do anything until the RFC/U is certified by at least one other user. If the RFC/U is not properly certified within at least 48 hours, it will be deleted. If it is certified, your next best step is to take a look at ], which has guidance about how to respond to such an RFC/U.

I sincerely hope that you will understand after you look at the page that it is not an attempt to invoke disciplinary procedures against you. In fact, per ], RFC/U ''cannot'' "Impose/enforce involuntary sanctions, blocks, bans, or binding disciplinary measures". Rather, this is a chance (if certified) for the wider community to look at your editing behavior, and give feedback on ways that said behavior may not be meeting community guidelines. I am not disrespecting your contributions, nor trying to attack you; rather, I want you to see how, possibly in general but at least with respect to Senkaku Islands issues, your editing behavior on articles and talk page behavior is detrimental to our ability to edit collaboratively. Obviously, you are likely to disagree with my assessment, and are welcome to explain why in the Response section provided for you. Furthermore, it may turn out that the community also disagrees with my assessment; we shall have to wait and see.

I am going to notify other editors who have interacted with us on ] and ] (along with a few who have become indirectly involved). I believe that this is appropriate per the rules set out in ]. If there is someone that I miss, feel free to inform them as well. ] (]) 06:13, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

:FYI as of a few hours ago the RFC is closed. There does not seem to be any basis for any type of voluntary agreement and interest has clearly faded. Hopefully this has been a learning experience for all involved and similar issues can be avoided in the future. ] (]) 01:58, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
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== Gaman goes German ==

Hi from a Nikkei/Sansei-expat in Germany. I am translating the Gaman article into German. It is my first Wiki article. It is changing faster than I can translate! ;-) I will try to run after your changes faster... --] (]) 14:01, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

== archive? ==

]This talk page is becoming '''very long'''. Please consider ]. <!-- Template:Utverylong --> ] (]) 01:59, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
No -- this troubled me in August, but I didn't know how to respond constructively. I still don't know what to do in situations like these, but silence is not a good option.

In fact, Phoenix7777 did provide specific citations here. No counterargument nor other reference source citations were was presented. Phoenix7777 only encounterd contradiction and derogatory comments about his contributions to this article.

For there to be a dispute, it appears that it is only necessary to disagree or to be disagreeable.

In the attempt to be fair-minded, it is perverse that Boneyard90 validates and endorses the kinds of provocative editing Misplaced Pages doesn't need. In contrast, Boneyard90 casually devalues the time and care which were invested by Phoenix7777.

This is a trivial example of a recurring problem. It illustrates the kind of small mistake with consequences that develop cumulatively.

Bottom line: I was driven away from this article. I couldn't believe that uchiwa was controversial, but there you have it.--Tenmei (talk) 20:48, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

== Huh? ==
I don't understand your comment, "In the context my diff creates..." on my talk page. Maybe the wrong person? -- ] (]) 19:39, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

== Formal mediation has been requested ==
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: Please could you review the above request and the newly specified issues to be mediated, and then indicate whether you would agree or disagree to participate in mediation? Thank you. For the Mediation Committee, ]<small> <nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 21:15, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

== Edits on ] and ] major economies ==

Someone named Chafis is editing the G8 and G-20 major economies articles that made it look too plain. I don't know if you agree, but he has gotten rid of all the flag icons on both articles. I wanted to let you know about this because he is not explaining why he/she wants it the way it is now. In fact, I had a little edit warring with this person, but he/she won't give up. Perhaps you can clarify both articles' prose and outlook. Thanks. ] (]) 04:09, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

== BRICS e G7 ==

Was removed the flags of the page, BRICS and G7. Why not take the flags of the G8 and G20??? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:15, 1 May 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
: Please review .<p>This is a short and specific explanation which may help you understand ].

:''Esta é uma tradução automática - Inglês para Português. As bandeiras são justificadas nas tabelas do G8 e do G20, porque eles são úteis para navegação.

:''As bandeiras não podem ser justificadas na tabela BRICS, devido ao número reduzido de países.'' --] (]) 17:34, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

== Senkaku Islands and verbosity ==

This message is sent in my capacity as a third-party observer to ], and ''not'' in my official capacity as a member of the Mediation Committee. I see that you are listed as a party to this request for mediation, and have already began to post lengthy messages that are hard to understand. In my experience, you unfailingly resort to that method of communication, and I am therefore very concerned that your participation in that mediation case, should the request be accepted, will be detrimental. This is an especially frustrating situation, because I am quite sure that you always participate in good faith; your comments are simply too long-winded to follow! I wonder if you have any thoughts on that concern? Kind regards, ]<small> <nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 11:25, 4 May 2011 (UTC)`

:] -- No, this was not a "comment." These were additional issues which are implicit, but unstated in the "primary" formulation. Without these explicitly stated issues, the premises of negotiation are skewed ways which undercut all reasonable hope for a constructive outcome.<p>My response to your inopportune edit is the following:
::A. "Verbose" -- no. AGK, be specific. Which individual words offend your perception of "concise"?
::B. AGK, in deleting, your burden is to identify <u>which specific words are perceived as the "verbose" ones</u>? And you need to explain why?
::C. These are each indispensable issues which resist being marginalized, not because of my words but because of the talk page threads which have evolved across a span of months.
::D. AGK, in deleting, your burden is to identify <u>which specific issues are perceived as the dispensible ones</u>? And you need to explain why?
:These are among ] by closely attending to the unanticipated failures of ] across the arc of strategic talk page interventions. The function of a mediator is primarily discovered in the process of refocusing attention on relevant issues -- emphasizing some and glossing over others. From a wiki-conventional perspective, ] rarely put a foot wrong, but his investment was ineffective nonetheless. Why? <p>"Why" is non-trivial within the array of issues mediation must encompass.

:In this context, "verbose" is both a ] and a ]. Please re-consider from another perspective; but first try to take your sense of confusion out of the mix, and also remove me and my words. Summarizing the re-framed dispute in terms of a odd American idiomatic expression: ].

:''Compare'' . ]. --] (]) 14:57, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

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:* In our mediation process, the adverse consequences of some problems can be mitigated by identifying them up front. --] (]) 15:30, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

::* Sub-issue #1, <b>]</b>. This ] is the subject of overlapping interests which infuse every aspect of this subject, as is highlighted in the excerpt at right.
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::* Sub-issue #2, <b>Looking backward</b>. This ] <u>is</u> a battleground. It is counter-productive to pretend that it is not.
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::* Sub-issue #3, <b>Looking forward</b>. A structural premise of mediation is that all necessary parties have agreed to participate; however, the ''scope of "primary issues" which frame this case'' must also encompass future contributors who have not yet caused us to ]. This ] is likely to attract the participation of editors whose ] perspective will skew our ] process in unhelpful ways.
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::* Sub-issue #4, <b>] vs. ]</b>. Our conventional processes for discerning the threshold requirements for inclusion in Misplaced Pages -- our ], policies and procedures -- are not irrelevant or dispensable in talk page threads nor in this negotiation venue.
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::* Sub-issue #5, <b>]</b>. The perception of is unhelpful because it is a self-fulfilling prophesy; and it is uninformative.
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::The "verbose" part is ALL of it. There's no need to write all that crap. How many people have commented now on your atrocious writing style? It's about time you come to realize that the problem with your writing is YOU, not your audience. ] (]) 09:54, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

::See ] --] (]) 16:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

::: I have re-read your first e-mail, and read your second e-mail and your response here. From them, I gather that your general argument is that User:Qwyrxian is in some way misrepresenting ''something''—but I do not know what. I have a Master's degree and am educated to a level that probably exceeds a majority of my countrymen, so I have the ability to comprehend most arguments. But I genuinely cannot compute a worrying volume of what you write. At this point, I am recusing from acting as the representative of the Mediation Committee in relation to the request for mediation in question, because at best my inability to understand you would be obstructive, and at worst my simple annoyance at your style of writing would annoy me so much as to impact on my judgment. I don't know whether this difficulty with reading your language is something I share with other editors of this project, because I have never discussed you with another person, but I ''have'' interacted with you in the past and there is clearly an issue ''somewhere'' here.<p>As I said previously, I have no doubt that you continue to act in good faith, but this is as it is. Finally, I do not look to pass you off as an obstructive or problematic influence. I simply cannot get past this difficulty I have with communicating with you! ''damnant quod non intellegunt'', perhaps? Regards, ]<small> <nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 22:10, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

::::No comments on Tenmei's style of editing, but I want to clarify that I did not open the mediation, nor was I the one who chose the terms of discussion. I did express an opinion about that on the article talk page, but was not the one to finally formulate it. ] (]) 00:14, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

{{outdent}}]'s speculation about ] was indiscreet. IMO, it was both unexpected and potentially provocative.<p>Let's be clear, it is no secret that ] provided more than one ] across the span of months which preceded ]. Are there any who doubt that I paid close attention? Are there those who failed to recognize that ] sought to function as an informal mediator? His role has been pivotal.
*Yes, I did mention ] specifically in this thread. There was no disrespect implied, but there was an acknowledgment of unanswered questions. The nearest antecedent for the pronoun which begins the ] paragraph is "<u>specific issues</u> ... perceived as the dispensable ones". I wrote:
::These are among lessons learned the hard way by closely attending to the unanticipated failures of ] across the arc of strategic talk page interventions. The function of a mediator is primarily discovered in the process of refocusing attention on relevant issues -- emphasizing some and glossing over others. From a wiki-conventional perspective, ] rarely put a foot wrong, but his investment was ineffective nonetheless. Why?
:My tentative answer to this rhetorical question is encompassed within the ambits of which have been made explicit.
*Yes, I did mention ] in an email sent to ]. The reference to ]'s strategic interventions is not inconsistent with what I have argued in many other contexts. I wrote:
::"... t is demonstrable that ] too often "flinched" and too often "capitulated" in talk page threads ... but I don't understand more than this. I could not have done as well as he did ...."
:As above, my tentative plan-of-action is to confirm in explicit words.

This is continued at --] (]) 16:50, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

: You have referred to my earlier good-faith comment as ''potentially provocative'', but the majority of my projectspace work on the English Misplaced Pages relates to dispute-resolution—and, most tellingly, as the co-ordinator of a Committee that provides formal mediation for content disputes. That is both woefully inaccurate and grossly insulting. Do consider my earlier impression of you as a verbose but a distinctly well-intentioned and constructive editor as very much withdrawn. This comment is the last that I will participate in this conversation. ]<small> <nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 21:53, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

===Process of reasoning together===
::] -- Please re-consider your feelings of indignation.
::] -- Your reasons for indignation appear to arise because you dislike the word "".
::* In fact, verb "" has a specific meaning.
::*In fact, ] did post a comment on my talk page in response to yours.
::*In fact, your diff did "provoke" ]'s perceived need to write.
::*In fact, your diff did "provoke" me to make guesses about what to do next; and your words forced me to develop a hypothesis about whether non-response was arguably worse than responding.
::*In fact, my measured words introduced a label -- "provocative" -- which re-directed attention towards explicit consequences.
::*In fact, my carefully-chosen words addressed a problem-which-didn't-need-to-be-a-problem.
::*In fact, you did "provoke" a problem-which-didn't-need-to-be-a-problem when you wrote:
:::"I have re-read your first e-mail, and read your second e-mail and your response here. From them, I gather that your general argument is that User:Qwyrxian is in some way misrepresenting ''something''—but I do not know what."
::] -- You and you alone focused attention on some kind of unspecified who-knows-what with ] in a spotlight. Your words created a unique focal point; and your feelings of indignation are unjustified in relation to something you alone contrived.

::<u>Apology</u>: ] -- I can readily apologise for my inadvertent role in this misunderstanding, but your failure to address the substance of my words still remains outside the ambit of my responsibilities. Constructive issues seem to have fallen by the wayside.
::<u>Restatement</u>: ] -- It is modestly accurate to describe your words as "indiscreet" and "unexpected" and "provocative." If you can, I hope you will please set aside your feelings of resentment. They serve no one's best interests, nor do they further the purposes of our ] project.
::<u>Bottom line</u>: ] -- You asked a question, and I provided a thoughtful answer. That e-mail reply included evidence of research. This was proof of (a) a multi-step process and (b) an investment of time and thought which preceded the drafting of sentences. Your first e-mail reply rejected my words wholesale without addressing any specifics. You will recall that I then invited you to read my words again, to consider the content of my paragraphs and the elements of my reasoning. Instead, your focus was turned toward something other than the substance of my words and the process of reasoning together. --] (]) 17:13, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:<s>]</s>. No response at all might have been justified, but it would not have been constructive. Silence would not be forward looking.
:This comment is a re-start, a first step in a process of engagement. At a minimum, it is fair to describe my comments as neither "]" nor "]." --] (]) 14:51, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

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== ] ==

Hi, Tenmei. You changed my edit from "officially" to "also known as". However it is arguably "officially" because my reference is an official document from the US Department of State. That's said, it is a minor issue and I don't mind at all. After my brief research on the treaty, I am surprised that the treaty was negotiated between US and China. Please see the following sources.
*{{cite book|title=The Korean struggle for International identity in the foreground of the Shufeldt Negotiation, 1866-1882 |first= Woong Joe|last= Kang |publisher= University Press of America| year=2005 |isbn= 0761831207|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=hRAPN6SZqKUC&pg=PA136&dq=%22chin+hong+chi%22&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22chin%20hong%20chi%22&f=false|page=136}}
*{{cite book |url=http://books.google.com/books?id=XB4UYXNQK1wC&pg=PA459&dq=%22Ma+Jianzhong%22OR+%22Ma+Chien-Chung%22+treaty+korea&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=false|title=The land of scholars: two thousand years of Korean Confucianism|first= Jae-un |last=Kang|publisher= Homa & Sekey Books|year= 2006 |isbn= 1931907307|page=459}}
*{{cite book|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=Pn8SDywYRssC&pg=PA186&dq=treaty+1882&hl=en#v=onepage&q=treaty%201882&f=false|title= The diplomacy of involvement: American economic expansion across the Pacific, 1784-1900 |first= David M. |last=Pletcher |publisher= University of Missouri Press|year= 2001 |isbn= 0826213154}}
*{{cite book|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=jxZuyE8UvF8C&pg=PA42&dq=1882+ma+jianzhong&hl=en#v=onepage&q=1882%20ma%20jianzhong&f=false|title=The resurgence of East Asia: 500, 150 and 50 year perspectives|first1= Giovanni |last1=Arrighi|first2= Takeshi|last2= Hamashita|first3= Mark |last3=Selden |publisher= Routledge|year= 2003 |isbn= 0415316375}}
*{{cite web|url=http://www.instrok.org/instrok/resources/Draft%20and%20Final%20Versions.pdf|title=The 1882 US and Korea Treaty: Draft and Final Versions}}
*{{cite journal|url=http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/journal_of_korean_studies/v001/1.1.walter.pdf|title= The Korean Special Mission to the United States of America in 1883}}
―― ] (]) 10:04, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

:As an initial response, please notice that I have edited the article by adding (a) a Korean drafted-text excerpt which verifies the first sentence; (b) one blandly-worded sentence in the "background" section; and (c) all the source citations you provide above. A more extended comment will have to wait til later. I have another commitment which cannot be delayed. Please bear with me. --] (]) 16:02, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

== Continued use of the ] triangle ==

(crossposted) I'm almost out of good faith assumptions regarding your "] triangle" edits (as I shall call them). If you cannot find a different way to rephrase your comments without always bringing up the ] triangle whenever you are trying to make a ], I will ask for the community to step in and ban you from using the triangle in your disputes. Your continuous reminders to other editors to follow the triangle are bordering on disruptive and exhibit ]. Please don't do it again. &ndash; ]<sup><b>]</b></sup> 01:24, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
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== Empress Iwa-no hime merged into Princess Iwa ==

I have merged the text from ] into ]. Both short pages appear to describe the same person. The pages ] and ] now redirect to Princess Iwa. ] (]) 04:10, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

== Please stop commenting on me ==

Please stop commenting on my motives (as you did when you claimed I was being impatient) and please stop commenting on my overall effectiveness (by claiming I have squandered my credibility). You may not have noticed, but I have stopped commenting on your style of talk page editing, despite my belief that it is actively harmful to discussions on Misplaced Pages. I would ask that you have the courtesy not to engage in what are not quite attacks but are clearly intended to cast disrepute on me as a person. ] (]) 22:00, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

:FACT: Your personal integrity is sufficiently well established that it is entirely beyond my ability -- nor anyone else's ability -- to affect your earned reputation. In other words, I cannot cast disrepute. --] (]) 22:39, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
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== Collapsed content ==

Hello, I just wanted to thank you for labelling the collapsed portions of the mediation case; it does make it clearer what's going on! <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">] <font size="-2">] | ])</font></span> 22:48, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

The current discussion is now taking place at ]; the page you edited, ], is now a closed archive. See the current page for details. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">] <font size="-2">] | ])</font></span> 16:02, 4 June 2011 (UTC)


== ] ==

Can you clarify what you mean by "this proposed poll topic is unhelpful"? Do you mean STSC's section summary? (In which case please see the rules of the poll about not responding to sections unless you support them.) Note that ] is not a policy or guideline. Given the contentious nature of this dispute, it's important that you back up statements like "settled wiki-consensus rejects any scheme which provides a blanket exclusion of Google-derived data" with solid evidence.

Also, as an unrelated matter, it would behoove you to stop wiki-linking common terms like ] and ] in your posts. It's insulting, frankly...as if you expect that your audience needs to have these terms defined. I understand this may just be your personal style, but as several people have complained about it, you would do well to find another way to express yourself. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">] <font size="-2">] | ])</font></span> 21:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
:Yes, among the ] is that I need to expect that my colleagues in this mediation exercise will not define these terms in ways which are congruent with the linked pages.<p>You perceive insult where none is intended; but there we have it.<p>IMO, it would be constructive for you to join me in encouraging the establishment of "shared vocabulary", especially with the words you mention: ] and ] plus one word which is a corollary -- ]. Indeed, I had the impression that this is one of your mediation strategies, is it not?--] (]) 22:09, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
::Re: : you struck out the off topic comments, which is great, but then you questioned my decision of what constitutes off topic material, which is explicitly forbidden under the revised rules of the mediation. If you have a complaint about the way the mediation is being handled, it '''must''' be sent by email or in a user talk page post. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype, Book Antiqua, Palatino, serif;" color="#BBAED0">] <font size="-2">] | ])</font></span> 00:35, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
:::I have no complaint about handling -- my focus of attention is on the "primary issue" as was <u>explicitly defined</u> before I agreed to participate.
::::
:::] destroyed the foundation of collaboration; and i cannot comply with what I do not understand, e.g.,
::::"... you questioned my decision of what constitutes off topic material, which is explicitly forbidden under the revised rules of the mediation."
:::Without adequate explanation, this is impossible. -] (]) 16:58, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

== Primary issues of mediation ==

I have been following your recent comments on the mediation with interest. You cite the mediation guide (which, by the by, I wrote), and seem to imply that you do not think the Mediation Committee has correctly framed the issues at dispute. We should resolve your grievance now, rather than later. Please state briefly what in your view the mediation is about; what content of the article has been disputed? I was not aware until now that there was a problem with the issues as they are currently framed.

On another note, your recent remarks have been better written; kudos is due for that. I'm not sure if you saw my response to you on Feezo's talk page, but I think there is some useful advice for you there. YMMV. ]<small> <nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 00:29, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

{{outdent}}AGK -- What part of ] is hard to grasp? <p>What part of my writing makes it hard to conceptualize ]? This phrase is a straightforward derivation from sports that use goalposts, such as football. <p><s>As you know, the figurative use of "moving the goalposts" alludes to the perceived unfairness in changing the goal one is trying to achieve after the process one is engaged in has already started.</s> --] (]) 23:35, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

{{collapse top|Concern about ]|}}
No -- There is no so-called "grievance."<p>The term ] underscores your conceptual marginalization. There is no substantive response which is not devalued '']'' in your diff. That said, it is a step in the right direction when you acknowledge "now, ''rather than later''".<p>It is more precise to recognize that the fulcrum is ''rather than later''. Feezo's ] (] or ]) was timely identified and .<p>Like ], I will continue to re-iterate that these must be the mediator's priorities:
{{quote box|style=margin-left: 10em|quote=<big>] (MBO) is a process of participative goal setting and decision making.<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; <u>MBO framework = what we need</u></big></br>
* More awareness of a growing issue that is poisoning the very essence of collaborative editing that makes Misplaced Pages possible: real-world factions that vie for control over articles, turning them into polemical battlegrounds where surface civility is used to cover bias, tendentiousness and even harassment. The mediator needs to take a strong stance against that sort of "polite disruption" and those who use our rules of civility as weapons, recognize that , not vested, and investigate beyond surface behavior issues.

* Less timidity in addressing issues related to contents (POV warring, tag teams, academic dishonesty). The mediator should be more active at curtailing content disputes. Academic integrity should become a priority; unlike "simple" incivility, the damage caused by editors misquoting, plagiarizing and editorializing destroys the credibility of our encyclopedia.

* Increased transparency in the mediation process is needed. The mediator must explain decision-making in better detail, including reasons and justification. It is important that the participants in mediation <u>and</u> the wider community understand why the mediator decides to intervene -- or not to intervene, because this suggests a way to approach similar problems in other contexts.
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In addition, please note:
:* <u>Incorrect</u>. You write "seem to imply that you do not think the Mediation Committee has correctly framed the issues at dispute." I was unaware that the Mediation Committee does anything other than passively accept what the participants have explicitly agreed, which is parsed below to emphasise the subject and its modifying prepositional phrases<p>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </nowiki>''' discussing whether or not the title represents a neutral point of view.] <p>These 20+ words represent the framing as agreed to by the participants; and these words state explicitly what the participants assert the mediation is about. From the outset, both before I expressly agreed to mediation and at the same time as I added my signature + , I made <u>ex</u>plicit some of the <u>im</u>plicit factors which affect our unique ] exercise.

:* <u>Incorrect</u>. You write "I was not aware until now that there was a problem with the issues as they are currently framed." This sentence is a "polite fiction." This is ] in the context established by your participation in this thread: . Can this misjudgment be clarified by using words which are explained at ]?
:# <u>Devalued/Invalidated</u>: Phoenix7777 exhibited admirable </nowiki> "a willingness to engage"] when he wrote the following:
:# <u>Devalued/Invalidated</u>. I demonstrated "honesty" ... and "a willingness to engage" in the following carefully drafted sections:
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In conclusion, I adopt the words of Phoenix7777 as if they were my own: --] (]) 16:23, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
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:AGK -- what part of this is unclear?
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:<s>What do you want me to try to explain this in different words?</s><p>Qwyrxian explains it succinctly , "I actually liked the way Feezo was working before--''collapse and <b>ignore</b>'' (and, even, moving stuff to archive/sub-pages)." <p><s>Qwyrxian is seemingly comfortable with the sound of one hand clapping, but it</s> This marginalizes the shared understanding which was <s>expressly endorsed</s> underscored when each of us agreed to mediation and endorsed "issues to be mediated" . --] (]) 20:27, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

:: Strike what I said about your method of interacting having improved; I can't make heads or tails of what you've said here. I kind of gather that you don't think the issue is "what should the title of the article be?", but I don't know what you think it should be. If your next reply is difficult to understand, I shall not be wasting me time trying to understand it; you '''must''' work on how you write, because I am far from the only person who struggles to understand you. ]<small> <nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 11:17, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

===]===
Please note that the "]" sub-heading comes from clicking on the term "imperative" in the original of the paragraph excerpted below.

Please reconsider these words from ]:
:"Talking to other parties is not a formality; it's an ] to the smooth running of any community. Not discussing will make people less sympathetic to your position and may prevent you from effectively using later stages in dispute resolution. In contrast, sustained discussion and serious ] between the parties, even if not immediately (or even remotely) successful, shows that you are trying to find a solution."
In this context, perhaps my efforts become less easy to denigrate. --] (]) 20:18, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

:::AGK -- Until you strike out the following, don't post anything at all on my talk page:
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:::These paired dependent clauses are counter-productive precisely because they are likely to persuade others to adopt the same or similar tactics.
:::* <u>As a leader in ]</u>, these words are ] to continuing discussions.
:::*<u>As a prominent figure in our project</u>, your words are destructive to ].
:::Regardless of your good intent, this harm is expansive and dangerous because your words arguably validate such marginalizing tactics in a broad array of articles (including ones in which I have no role). --] (]) 17:56, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
::::AGK -- After the harmful words are struck out, please acknowledge one question: What part of the box below is unclear?
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::::AGK -- The disjunction in the box above marginalizes the shared understanding which was ] when each of us agreed to mediation and endorsed "issues to be mediated" . Our problems metastacizsed because of ] and ] which began and . --] (]) 19:22, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

::::: I do not understand why you have put a question to me when you have also asked me to not make any more substantial comments unless I strike part of my own comment. If you hope to compel me to redact my comment to a form that you find more agreeable, you are misguided, because I will simply permit you to continue participating unhelpfully in a mediation that as I understand it you have no interest in—the inevitable result of which can only be the escalation of the entire dispute to binding dispute resolution. When you are ready to have a meaningful discussion, please let me know (directly, because I am no longer watching this page). I genuinely do want to follow this subject through with you, especially because I have begun (finally, and after much teasing out of your meaning from the above writing) to understand your basic point. Respectfully, ]<small> <nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 20:27, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
{{Outdent}}Only 19 words need to be struck out.
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This is an opinion anyone else may freely express -- but not AGK -- and the reasons why AGK has made himself a special case are explicit above. There is no form of words that is more agreeable. The marriage of the writer and the substance of these words is irreducible. --] (]) 20:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
:I adopt the words of ] as if they were my own words: --] (]) 16:49, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
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== Chikanobu ==

I'd appreciate if you would please review, answer, and discuss the comments I've made about the 'Arts of Asia' magazine reference and the lack of evidence relating to "prints" by Chikanobu of the Russo-Japanese War. I will be making changes shortly to the latter and don't wish to begin a discussion after the fact.] (]) 15:33, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
:Please restate using other words. I don't yet understand what you are asking me to do. At , I don't really know <s>where or</s> how to begin to respond constructively?<p>Regardless, the high quality and current state of development in this article makes it ripe for commentary by a wider spectrum of reviewers. My perspective is only one among many.<p>Perhaps this is a good time for ] to be recognized as a ]? Perhaps it should be promoted as ]? --] (]) 16:02, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

== Motor ships and steam ships ==
In the article ] you a paragraph that I think is quite confusing. Do you really mean that ships with diesel engines are called "steamers"? I'll mark the paragraph, but you might want to clarify. --] (]) 09:22, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

== Genbō ==

You beat me in writing the ] article, thanks! In ] I noticed that neither ] (]) nor ] (]) have an article, even though they are pretty important for Nara period Japan. If you are interested and have the time, I'd be very happy if you changed that. (If not, that's fine as well.) ] (]) 10:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

:Small steps in a constructive direction:
:* <s>]</s> <big>≈</big> ]<big>≈</big> ]
:* ] <big>=</big> ]?
:* ] <big>=</big> ]
:I will probably tweak these a bit more in the coming week. --] (]) 19:41, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

::Great, thanks a lot! As for "Dazaifu", I meant the local government in the Asuka to Kamakura period responsible for Kyushu. There is a little bit about it in ], but since the Dazaifu government is not really related to the modern ], it should get its own article. Feel free to chose a name which you think is best (does not have to be "Dazaifu (local government)"). I did not read it in detail, but I believe that what I mean is in ]. ] (]) 21:08, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

== Fujiwara no Hirotsugu ==

Thanks for the addition to my sandbox. My French is not that good, let alone old French, but still better than kanbun. ] and will then start writing the actual rebellion part of the article. All other sources I have are very good about the events leading to the rebellion, but when it comes to the rebellion itself, they don't say much more than that Hirotsugu was defeated. That's why I am so much after the Shoku Nihongi. ] (]) 21:05, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:The ]/]/] translation of '']'' is the earliest history of its type to be published in the West. In specific, this means that this book represented the first opportunity for Western readers to learn about historical events in 740 in Japan; and at the same time, the narrative provides a glimpse of early ] historiography.
::''Aside'': Did you know that the "annals of the emperors of Japan" was edited and revised by Japanese historians for dissemination within a multi-generational readership of Tokugawa bureaucrats? In other words, there is a very practical purpose which underlies the prose and the editing -- which is much like our Misplaced Pages project, don't you think?
:In principle, I like the idea of incorporating this "first impression" within our internet wiki-project. At first, the seeming incongruity struck me as odd, and maybe a little bit funny; but across the span of the past few years, I discovered that the 17th century text marries quite well with our 21st century purposes -- especially in contexts like the bullets of a tentative timeline in your sandbox. --] (]) 22:35, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
:::Very interesting. I like the first impression idea. Honestly I hadn't heard about the Nihon Ōdai Ichiran until your edits. Thanks for directing me to it. ] (]) 23:06, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
Do you happen to know how exact/reliable the dates (i.e. months+days) given by the Shoku Nihongi are? There is some discussion on it on pages 109-110 in , but I was wondering whether they are trustworthy enough to mention in the bulk of the article. Currently I put the dates in a ] linked to the main part of the text. As a followup question, for an entry in the Shoku Nihongi with a given date, does it mean that the event happened at that date or does it mean that the information about that event had reached the court in Nara on that day? ] (]) 11:04, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
:Some questions are unanswerable. My best response is to defer to your good judgment. --] (]) 17:42, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
{{outdent}} Hi, hopefully an answerable question... (:-))
: Let's agree that not all questions are answerable in July 2011? Your words inspire a great many thoughts; but for now, the most important point I want to get across is that my interest in specific dates is limited. As a general rule, I defer to your judgment on such matters; but if I have anything constructive to offer, I will try to do what I can. --] (]) 18:42, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

{{outdent}}...since I noticed that you did many edits to ]. I ] and noticed that several Fujiwara (e.g. Fusasaki, Maro, Umakai) had the title "Sanghi" (="Sangi"?) apparently around the same time. ] tells me that the translation is "Director of palace affairs" which I assume is a position held by a single individual at any time. How could all three have that position at the same time? Could Sangi also have a more general meaning of counselor (i.e member of the Daijo-kan? ] (]) 16:24, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
]'' -- stone at ] ]]
:Thank you for your comments and questions. Is this an example of growing pebbles into boulders?
:My guess is that the office of '']'' was held sequentially, e.g.,
:# ] held the office of ''Sangi'' until he died in 737 ''(] 9, 4th month'')<ref group="hirotsugu" name="titsingh69">Titsingh, Isaac. (1834). {{Google books|18oNAAAAIAAJ|''Annales des empereurs du japon,'' p. 69.|page=69}}</ref>
:# ] held the office of ''Sangi'' until he died in 737 ''(Tenpyō 9, 7th month'')<ref group="hirotsugu" name="titsingh69"/>
:# ] held the office of ''Sangi'' until he died in 737 ''(Tenpyō 9, 8th month'')<ref group="hirotsugu" name="titsingh69"/>
:In other words, my interpretation of this text leads me to believe that Maro filled the role of ''Sangi'' for three months only. Umaki was Sangi for one month only. In the absence of other data, this much is consistent with ]. In principle, even though it is adduced as verifiable, we still leave open the possibility that this may not be the "truth".<p>Your guess may be correct. There may have been an overlap or there may have been more than one Sangi when Fusasaki died. This is arguably plausible. <p>Stepping back a bit: what we do know is that the hierarchy anticipated that three of the {{nihongo|]|大納言|Dainagon}} would serve at one time. Titsingh writes that there were commonly three ''Dainagon'',<ref group="hirotsugu" name="titsingh426">Titsingh, {{Google books|18oNAAAAIAAJ|p. 426.|page=426}}</ref> and Papinot writes that there were sometimes more. Because of what we know about signficant ''Daijō-kan'' offices like the ''Daingaon'', it is a good guess that there might have been more than one ''Sangi'' at one time -- perhaps including the difficult year of ''Tenpyō'' 9.<p>Also, we also know that rank and function were not always consistent.<ref group="hirotsugu">, </ref> For example, Titsingh writes that when ] ] is near death in 737 ('' Tenpyō 9, 8th month''), the Emperor elevates him to first rank first class equal to that of the ].<ref group="hirotsugu" name="titsingh69"/> <p>When further data is adduced, we may be able to confirm or modify our verified, but still tentative conclusions, yes? Does this make sense to you? Does my reasoning mirror yours? --] (]) 18:42, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
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::See new article ].<p>Also, please take note -- my edit at ]. --] (]) 19:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for this comprehensive and well thought out reply. I think you might be right that all they held that position for only a short time or that there was some overlap. ] (]) 22:30, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

== Tōhoku region ==
I suggest you talk a little more and delete a little less: ] ] (]) 06:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
:We have no conflict. My contributions to the subject of the ] only supplements the framework you established, e.g., compare ] and note that Michinoku has been added to the ].<p>Nothing has been deleted. In fact, on closer inspection, it becomes clear that this is a good example of ].
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:1. Hanihara, Kazuro. ''Japan Review'', 1990, 1:37 (PDF p. 3).
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:2. Itakura, Katsutaka. ''Science Reports of Tohoku University,'' Vol. 32, Issue: 2 (December 1982), pp. 71-87.
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:3. Pacific Island Travel, + Kim, Yung-Hee. (1994). {{Google books|SFlSLX-nCeEC|''Songs to Make the Dust Dance: the 'Ryōjin hishō' of Twelfth-century Japan,'' p. 129|page=129}}
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:If you believe that what is written about Michinoku in the Tohoku article needs to be fuller than my edit , fine. I defer to your good judgment. --] (]) 10:48, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

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== SI dispute ==

I mean this in the nicest possible way...but you're only talking to yourself on ]. Everyone has basically already indicated, directly or indirectly, that they are not going to try to figure out what you're writing when you include so many quotes, links, and abstract philosophical ideas. Lvhis and Bobthefish2 are never going to respond to your questions, most likely because they don't even understand them. I barely understand them myself. I mean, you can keep adding more and more stuff, but you should know that it's not going to get you/us anywhere. And you should know that their failure to respond isn't going to be held against them--it's going to be held against you, because you're not writing in a way that other editor's can grasp. Again, only a friendly reminder/notice...but I think that your enthusiasm could be better channeled if you actually want to effect change with your words. Let me draw an analogy: when I write for Misplaced Pages, I write so that a broad, general audience can at least grasp the fundamentals of what I'm saying, because I know that my audience doesn't necessarily have any specific, technical knowledge. When I write papers I for my professional work, though, I use all sorts of "jargon" and references, I refer to "important people" (and expect my readers know who they are), and I use a much more complex grammatical style. That's because my professional audience does have the background necessary to cope with that style of writing--they demand it, in fact. So when you're writing on the talk page, think about who your audience is. You can be saying the most correct, true, and profound things in the world, but if you're not conveying that message in a way that your audience understands, then ultimately, the communicative act was unsuccessful. ] (]) 15:13, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

:;Yes and no<br>
:Yes -- I take your point. I do understand why and how you are correct; but I also understand how and why your reasoning is invalidated by what predictably happens next.

:No -- your comments and argument are harmful to the long-term prospects for our wiki-project. Your analysis is anti-Misplaced Pages because it undermines ]

:You have encouraged this rhetorical gambit -- a knee-jerk rejection regardless of what I write or how I write it. You are simply wrong -- regardless of the theoretical reasoning which underpins the belief that your analysis "should" be valid. In practice, your diffs and those of John Smith's, Phoenix7777, Oda Mari and others are rejected with the same broad-stroke generalities.<p>In the specific context of the edit history you and I have followed closely and carefully, the biggest problem is not me or my writing. The more significant trouble-maker is you; and this has been an ]. Frankly, your argument succeeds in perverting the ] process. This diff achieves a counter-intuitive result; and a similar process has unfolded as a consequence of the others diffs which precede this one. Perversely, your words wrongly encourage and elevate:
:* ] as a low-cost, easy, <u>Qywrxian-endorsed strategy</u>
:* ] as a low-cost, easy, <u>Qywrxian-endorsed strategy</u>
:* ] as a low-cost, easy, <u>Qywrxian-endorsed strategy</u>
:This is bad, pernicious, insidious; and simultaneously, you wrongly discourage and devalue:
:* ]
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:Worse still, you encourage and seem to endorse strategies of "strategic" ]. This is unwanted, but there we have it. In addition, the edit histories of other articles show the metastasis of harm.

:We have already learned the hard way that this is unworkable:
:* <u>Looking backwards</u>. Your comments about my writing served only to validate and encourage others to emulate your model. In other words, you encouraged non-responsive tactics which derogate and trivialise the diffs of others. This does not help to minimize difficulties, hurdles or stumbling blocks which affect hopes for success of mediation.
:* <u>Looking forward</u>. Your comments about my writing do not lead us towards engagement which focuses on the content of ] and ]. This does not help jump-start negotiations or other dialogue which is an irreducible part of mediation. This does not provide an alternate model for others to emulate.

:In other words, your gesture is misconstrued as an endorsement of tactics which marginalize.

:In this instance, your analysis may derive from parsing the relevant factors in ways which are like your critical mis-appraisal of ]?

:This is not a ]; but the fact of the matter is that your good intentions have not matched up with the consequences of your words. This is unwanted and unplanned; but again, there we have it.

:I don't know how to explain in a way that you will understand, accept and incorporate in your future editing ... but in due course, we will succeed in reaching common ground because we share that hortatory goal. --] (]) 16:39, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

::In view of the reasoning expressed in your edit , will you join me in asking Feezo to mediate the persisting disagreement we have about the harm you caused with your contributions at ]? --] (]) 16:46, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

:::Then maybe an example is needed. Everything you just wrote? I have scanned it, but I am not going to read it in detail. I'm not going to spend the next 30 minutes going through those links and trying to figure out what you're saying. My quick scan tells me you think I'm acting in bad faith and wrongly attacking your writing, looking only at the surface level. The problem is, going beyond the surface level is simply too difficult, too much work. I simply do not have time to slog my way through that. This is the same thing others have told you at the article talk pages; it's the same thing Magog the Ogre told you on xyr talk page; it's the same thing Arbcom told you back in 2008. You place too heavy a burden on others in your writing, and, as a result, I think your very sincere concerns and probably very useful points are being lost. You don't have to follow any of this, but don't be surprised when people simply stop listening. ] (]) 23:57, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

{{outdent}}I learned a new phrase today -- "obstinate lack of interest." Your sentences illustrate it:
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If I understand correctly, you explicitly reject and discourage the use of each of the following links in my writing:
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I have mentioned you in a thread on WP:ANI, so if you would like to contribute there you can find it under the title "AFDs not being properly considered due to assumption of bad faith".—Ryulong (琉竜) 01:44, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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Usurpation of the account Enkyo

Hi, Enkyo2. I saw you tried to rename to Enkyo and it was declined because the name was already registered to a global account. However, if it passed years since the last edit of the account, the usurpation of the account is available. It will take about ten days after your request if no response to an email notification returned. You can try and leave it for ten days. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 08:52, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful words. --Enkyo2 13:06, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Hopefully we can clear up the simple.wp account too : simple:User talk:Griffinofwales#Ongamenet and Enkyo. John Vandenberg 05:15, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hope all is well. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 04:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Nippon Era's

Hi I noticed that you contributed a lot to these articles (your name kept propping up in the talk pages) - do you think those era's should be merged together? I mean the Taika (645–650) Hakuchi (650–654) Shuchō (686–686) Taihō (701–704) Keiun (704–708) Wadō (708–715) periods? NarSakSasLee (talk) 16:35, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

It is not clear why you seem to suggest that articles about specific Japanese era names should be merged. For example, each of these articles is an independent subject with explicit and different support cited from more than one reliable source:
For me, the point of your question is not understood. --Enkyo2 12:38, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Neutral notice

As an editor with an interest in New York City articles, you are invited to participate in an RfC at The Dakota. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:35, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Re: Moving of "X family" to "X clan"

Regarding the series of moves your Ansei account made at the start of May, could you be a bit more careful? Most, if not all, of them were/are branches of Fujiwara/Minamoto/... clans, rather than clans themselves. I've already moved Nijo back, and will work on the others in a bit if you don't wanna do it yourself. Cheers! Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 13:48, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

"Jimmu" and others

Enkyo, why did you violate WP:SELFREF when you had clearly already seen on the talk page where I had pointed you to the Misplaced Pages style guideline where we have an established consensus on how to romanize that?? Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 15:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Enkyo,

I opened an ANI thread on you. This is not personal, and it's not about content (where I think I agree with you). It's about your use of language (and images, etc) on talk pages. Very difficult to understand. Maybe someone needs to teach you how to communicate on Misplaced Pages. This seemed the easiest way.

Cheers!

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 14:09, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi Enkyo2, I haven't had time to look at this but appears to be the same old; I think you're a great, v.interesting, and v.informative communicator; my advice would be not to get bogged down in discussion with someone who thinks fit to write like this but to move on to one of the tens of thousands of other pages which need your time and learning, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 21:37, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Links to related threads are here and here. --Enkyo2 (talk) 13:16, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

I added an inline-note here which mirrors WP:MOS-JA#Syllabic "n". A review of the guideline page history shows that these sentences were drafted by Jpatokal in 2004 here and the section was created by Nihonjoe in 2008 here. The guideline suggests "Use Google to check popularity if in doubt, and create a redirect from the n version" -- compare the list of Google Books Ngram Viewer results posted by Kusunose here.

Since 2009, there have been similar notes in the first paragraphs of articles about Emperor Temmu, Emperor Kimmei, Emperor Mommu, Empress Gemmei and Emperor Kammu -- compare Talk:Emperor Temmu#Tenmu vs Temmu. These spelling notes were each deleted by Hijiri88 with unhelpful edit summaries:

  • 14:05, 22 August 2013 diff . . Emperor Temmu ‎ (WP:SELFREF, WP:POINT.)
  • 14:08, 22 August 2013 diff . . Emperor Kimmei ‎ (WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.)
  • 14:12, 22 August 2013 diff . . Emperor Mommu ‎ (WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.)
  • 14:16, 22 August 2013 diff . . Empress Gemmei ‎ (WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.)
  • 14:19, 22 August 2013 diff . . Emperor Kammu ‎ (WP:SELFREF; WP:POINT.)

This is moving in the wrong direction. --Enkyo2 (talk) 20:09, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

A review of the edit histories of these articles and most others about the Japanese emperors reveals a cross-checking system of cited sources. This includes Delmer Brown's 1980 translation of Gukanshō and H. Paul Varley's 1979 translation of Jinnō Shōtōki -- compare List of Emperors of Japan#Notes. See JSTOR reviews of Brown's work here and Varley's work here. --Enkyo2 (talk) 12:57, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Enkyo PLEASE be coherent and stop making unrelated rants on talk pages

Information icon Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 12:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

The work just keeps right on rolling along
This is a pretext for continuing a pattern which is difficult to parse neatly -- see here and here. The fact that this is a pretext needs to be made explicit. I can only hope that the mere act of naming it will diminish its power to cause harm. --Enkyo2 (talk) 12:50, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Enkyo, please see my request for you to respond in this ANI thread. Kim Dent-Brown 21:38, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

ANI

A comment that another made about you has been quoted at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Canada-based_IP_user_posting_problematically_in_hundreds_of_RMs. Do not worry the editor whose conduct is under discussion is not you. You may want to take part in the discussion.--Toddy1 (talk) 10:01, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

Information icon Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

Enkyo, please could I ask that you engage in this discussion at AN/I, rather than suspending editing and waiting until it has been archived? It may be a coincidence that you restarted editing just after the previous thread was archived, bit if so it's an unfortunate one as it gives the appearance of trying to escape scrutiny. Now, if you have resumed editing again could you please join the AN/I discussion? To be honest, I find Hijiri's complaints a little shrill and repetitive, but equally I have to say that I find your communication style opaque and unhelpful. The problem between the two of you is not going to go away if we ignore it. Please join the discussion. Kim Dent-Brown 15:27, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Enkyo, I looked at your contribs to see whether you had again ceased editing while the new ANI thread is open and found this. I assume it's your response to the ANI thread but I strongly advise against you posting it in this form. As it stands it entirely vindicates Hijiri's point that your communication is verbose to the point of impenetrability. Post it if you will, but expect that it will make your opponent's point for them rather than strengthening your own position. Kim Dent-Brown 21:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, Enkyo2! This is to let you know that I have blanked the content from your old User page (User:Ansei). That page is now a redirect to your current User page (this page), so nobody will ever see the content. But because the old User page is now a redirect, the content was interfering with the Help page for the Japanese language template. So I deleted the content. Is that OK?
The content is still available in the history page of your old User page (User:Ansei), so you can view it at any time. And the redirect from your old User page to your new one still works properly, so I think that should be OK. If you have any problem with all of this, you can undo it simply by undoing my edit. Thanks, and thanks for your contributions to Japanese history. -- Margin1522 (talk) 14:32, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

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Treaties on Kashmir

Various scholars have written on the Instrument of Accession (Jammu and Kashmir), The Treaty of Lahore (9 March 1846) and the Treaty of Amritsar (16 March 1846). But very little of that text is on wikipedia.

Maharaja gulab Singh originally worked for the Sikh Empire. But then betrayed the Sikh empire by siding with the East India Company in the Anglo-Sikh War. His name is mentioned in the treaty of Lahore too. He collected Taxes for the East India Company and the money was then given by him to the East India Company.

The Treaty of Lahore (9 March 1846) and the Treaty of Amritsar (16 March 1846) lapsed under Article 7 of the Independence Act 1947. The Act was passed by the British Parliament on July 18, 1947 to assent to the creation of the independent states of India and Pakistan. The aforementioned Article 7 provides that, with the lapse of His Majesty’s suzerainty over the Indian states, all treaties, agreements, obligations, grants, usages and sufferance’s will lapse.

The 7 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh Bahadur (Sikh) was under the control of the East India company when he sign The Treaty of Lahore on 9 March 1846 which gave Jammu and Kashmir and its people to the East India Company.

Under the British legal system and international law a treaty signed by the 7 year old Maharaja Duleep Singh Bahadur and under duress is not valid. (The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void.)

We may need to add a section on the impact on the removal of Article 370 of the Indian constitution on The Instrument of Accession too. None of this text is on there.

Various scholars have written on these treaties, for example Alistair Lamb disputed the validity of the Instrument of Accession in his paper Myth of Indian Claim to JAMMU & KASHMIR –– A REAPPRAISAL'

Where he writes "While the date, and perhaps even the fact, of the accession to India of the State of Jammu & Kashmir in late October 1947 can be questioned, there is no dispute at that time any such accession was presented to the world at large as conditional and provisional. It was not communicated to Pakistan at the outset of the overt Indian intervention in the State of Jammu & Kashmir, nor was it presented in facsimile to the United Nations in early 1948 as part of the initial Indian reference to the Security Council. The 1948 White Paper in which the Government of India set out its formal case in respect to the State of Jammu & Kashmir, does not contain the Instrument of Accession as claimed to have been signed by the Maharajah: instead, it reproduces an unsigned form of Accession such as, it is implied, the Maharajah might have signed. To date no satisfactory original of this Instrument as signed by the Maharajah has been produced: though a highly suspect version, complete with the false date 26 October 1947, has been circulated by the Indian side since the 1960s. On the present evidence it is by no means clear that the Maharaja ever did sign an Instrument of Accession.

Indian troops actually began overtly to intervene in the State’s affairs on the morning of 27 October 1947

It is now absolutely clear that the two documents (a) the Instrument of Accession, and (c) the letter to Lord Mountbatten, could not possibly have been signed by the Maharajah of Jammu & Kashmir on 26 October 1947. The earliest possible time and date for their signature would have to be the afternoon of 27 October 1947. During 26 October 1947 the Maharajah of Jammu & Kashmir was travelling by road from Srinagar to Jammu. (The Kashmir State Army divisions and the Kashmiri people had already turned on him and he was on the run and had no authority in the state). His new Prime Minister, M.C. Mahajan, who was negotiating with the Government of India, and the senior Indian official concerned in State matters, V.P. Menon, were still in New Delhi where they remained overnight, and where their presence was noted by many observers. There was no communication of any sort between New Delhi and the travelling Maharajah. Menon and Mahajan set out by air from New Delhi to Jammu at about 10.00 a.m. on 27 October; and the Maharajah learned from them for the first time the result of his Prime Minister’s negotiations in New Delhi in the early afternoon of that day. The key point, of course, as has already been noted above, is that it is now obvious that these documents could only have been signed after the overt Indian intervention in the State of Jammu & Kashmir on 27 October 1947. When the Indian troops arrived at Srinagar air field, that State was still independent. Any agreements favourable to India signed after such intervention cannot escape the charge of having been produced under duress. (The International Court of Justice has stated that there "can be little doubt, as is implied in the Charter of the United Nations and recognized in Article 52 of the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, that under contemporary international law an agreement concluded under the threat or use of force is void.)"

Additionally Maharaja was on the run. The prevailing international practice on the recognition of state governments is based on the following three factors: first, the government’s actual control of the territory; second, the government’s enjoyment of the support and obedience of the majority of the population; third, the government’s ability to stake the claim that it has a reasonable expectation of staying in power. The situation on the ground demonstrates that the Maharaja was not in control of the state of Jammu and Kashmir and was fleeing for his life and almost all of Kashmir was under the control of the Kashmiri people and the Kashmiri Army that had rebelled against him. His own troops had turned on him. With regard to the Maharaja’s control over the local population, it is clear that he enjoyed no such control or support. The people of Kashmir had been sold by the East India Company and he charged them high taxes thetefore the Kashmir Muslims, Hindus Pandits and Buddhists hated him. Furthermore, the state’s armed forces were in total disarray after most of the men turned against him and he was running for his life. Finally, it is highly doubtful that the Maharaja could claim that his government had a reasonable chance of staying in power without Indian military intervention. This assumption is substantiated by the Maharaja’s letters.

Many of these treaties apply to Jammu and Kashmir. The Kashmir conflict is already on Misplaced Pages. It is internationally recognized as a disputed territory under various United United Nations resolutions that are already listed on Misplaced Pages Nations Security Council Resolution 47, Nations Security Council Resolution 39,mediation of the Kashmir dispute, Nations Commission for India and Pakistan. There is a lot of documentation on Jammu and Kashmir in the UN archives already. If you look at the page Kashmir conflict, it already contains sections on the "Indian view", "Pakistani view", "Chinese view", "Kashmiri views". May be we could do something like that with these treaty pages. The Treaty of Lahore was signed in 9 March 1846 and the Treaty of Amritsar 16 March 1846. They predate the creation of both modern day India and Pakistan. The Treaty of Lahore was signed between the Sikh Empire and the British government. It is an international treaty and comes under international law. Johnleeds1 (talk) 11:36, 19 May 2020 (UTC)


Currently the pages on Jammu and Kashmir are very fragmented. Its difficult to navigate through the pages. May be have a page on the treaties that apply to Jammu and Kashmir and link these to actual history events. The reader could then click on a link, obtain a more indepth knowledge of the treaty, its relationship with other treaties and the events surrounding it. Therefore providing them with a more educational understanding of these treaties. There is a lot of literature on these treaties, that we could use for references. There are also multiple parties to these treaties and we could link to them too. Many books and scholarly papers have been published illustrating the details surrounding these treaties. May be also create subsections on these pages illustrating the views of the Government of India, The view of the Government of Pakistan and the view of the Kashmiri Parties, The Government of China, The United Nations, The Sikh Empire and the British Government on these treaties. On Misplaced Pages we have the text on the various treaties but it does not show how these treaties relate to one another. We need show how they relate to one another and the events on the ground. We need to enhance the experience of the reader. Johnleeds1 (talk) 14:54, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

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