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''Approximately 3% of editors account for 85% of contributions to the project, according to the statistician, and participation among this group has declined "even more sharply" than the active registered userbase in toto.''

Funny that. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>16:22, 9 September 2011 (UTC).</small><br />

==Unchallengeable take downs?==
Rich,
On the talk page for the proposed ], you mention a takedown that is unchallengeable. While it's possible, I think it's more likely that it's a symptom of our bad communication about it or something (for which I would take responsibility). I don't think we have any that are unchallengeable right now. So, I want to write to ask if there's something I can clarify, or whether I'm missing something on my list? ] (]) 01:14, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

:Yes, the matter has come up a couple of times, both on the ] talk page of the article in question, and in the commentary to a recent (July) . The issue is that there only people who can issue a counter notice are the anonymous editors who originally posted the material. On most websites another person could post the material, wait for a challenge and respond to that. Here, since take-down has been implemented as an office action no one can repost the material without going against the office action (and in fact, even if they did, it would be removed by editors in support of the office action) therefore the material, which is freely published elsewhere, since the DMCA ''was'' challenged and the challenge not responded to, cannot be posted on Misplaced Pages. Effectively this makes Misplaced Pages the most censored forum for this information. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>01:32, 11 September 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
::Interesting. My understanding from the legal team is that a DMCA takedown must be challenged by a party with legal standing, which would mean that it has to be someone who had posted the content. If we were to then suggest or passively allow someone else to post it, we would not be in full compliance. However, I'll confirm that. If that's the case, then we're in compliance with the regulations and others arguably are not. If it's an issue of interpretation, I'll find out why we're not more broad, but since Mr. Godwin structured those originally, I tend to think we're at the broadest level that he (and then Mr Brigham) felt was legally possible. But I'll get an answer and try to report back. Thanks for clarifying. ] (]) 05:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

==Waiting time for Helpful Pixie Bot==
In a recent discussion on this talk page, you agreed to set a waiting time for HPbot, but you didn't set this for IP edits for some unknown reason. This creates siutatuions like where '''7 times in 20 minutes''' you edit the same article while an IP is actively editing it, thereby possibly creating edit conflicts only because the bot won't wait for an hour or so before making its edit.

The same happened e.g. with three bot edits in five minutes.

I also notice that the waiting period for non-IP edits only seems to be about 10 minutes, even though you said that you had increased it to 1 hour. Any reason that you don't actually wait for 1 hour, and for IPs as well? ] (]) 13:34, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
:I did set it to 1 hour but the effectiveness became zero as I predicted. I now have it on twice the previous delay, and effectiveness is about 50% at a guess. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>12:17, 18 October 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
::I unblocked this bot on you gave me. As you have reneged on this I have reblocked the bot. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 12:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
:::I changed it in build 615. That proved ineffective, so I changed it again in build 616. This isn't causing any complaints from the editors who are adding the tags, which is my touchstone, not, with all due respect, what you or Fram might think. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>13:08, 18 October 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
::(ec)What do you mean by "effectiveness"? Are there pages that should get tag-dated but don't, due to the delay? Or do other bots get there before yours (and why is that a problem?)? Or something else? Apart from that, any reason that you can't implement the same delay for IPs, avoiding (from today) four bot edits in seven minutes to the same article? ] (]) 12:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
I would also be interested in the answer to the questions above as it makes no sense to me. I see no compelling reason to unblock this bot considering all the factors (the number of errors it seems to make, and the lack of responsiveness from the operator, the number of complaints on this talk page, ...). Another bot performing the same task seems to receive ] and is doing the job perfectly well.

RE ''This isn't causing any complaints from the editors who are adding the tags'', it was due precisely to complaints/feedback from the bot's "clients" that this delay is being demanded. Your to User:EEng and failure to follow through showed how you respond to your "touchstone".

To summarise I propose leaving this bot blocked indefinitely as I foresee no end to the problems encountered so far. My patience is fairly well exhausted on this matter and other bots are doing the same work without any problems, so there is no loss to Misplaced Pages. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 13:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
:Except that you treat that other bot differently, since it's editing at 10 minute delay is considered fine and dandy. This is simply prejudice brought about by the slinging of mud, and blocking the bot is bad for the encyclopedia. I addressed EEngs concerns by allowing a much longer delay in his case, as I have done for anyone who has raised the concern. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>21:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
::AnomieBot has a twenty minute delay, not a ten minute delay, and uses the same twenty minute delay for IPs... ] (]) 07:16, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
::: AnomieBOT running alone has a 20-minute delay. I have some experimental code running that automatically adjusts the delay to match (within reason) if Helpful Pixie Bot has been running faster; I did this because, way back when I started running the task, it was proposed that AnomieBOT use the same delay as (then-)SmackBot and Rich kept resetting his bot to just slightly faster. That seems to be what happened here, too, BTW: Rich turned his bot to about 19 minutes, then 18, then 16, then 14, then 10 over the course of 4 days. ]] 12:12, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
::::I didn't know that AnomieBOT was also running at 10 minutes and it doesn't make sense to me that AnomieBOT's delay should be affected by other bot's settings. It's as if you two are competing with each other, for some unknown reason, and I don't see this being helpful to the encyclopedia. This work is completely non-urgent and a delay of 24 hours would seem perfectly adequate to me. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 14:32, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
::::: No competition on my part, just parity. And it lets me know to do . A delay of 24 hours is IMO too long, as on even a moderately active article the bot would never be allowed to edit. ]] 15:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
::::::Of course you would still get to see new templates regardless of which bot edits first, since Helpful Pixie Bot wouldn't know about them either - and you have code I think you said to capture these cases. Interestingly that is one reason I find AnomieBOT frustrating - that it clears certain hard cases, which in my old (AWB based) daily workflow I would see the morning after kicking off a run, enabling me to keep the bot up to date. Another advantage of an AWB daily run was that an actual delay was built in, due to the time it took to build the list and the relatively low editing speed. A third advantage was far less reads of Misplaced Pages. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>22:36, 20 October 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
::::::Sigh. Time to unblock this, since the block was done on the mistaken basis that I had reneged on an undertaking to MSGJ, which even if correct would not be a reason for a block. Blocks are not punitive. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>17:26, 16 November 2011&nbsp;(UTC).</small><br />
:::::::MSGJ. You said you blocked because I reneged on something. If you re-read you will find that I didn't. Please therefore unblock. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>22:59, 22 November 2011&nbsp;(UTC).</small><br />
::::::::I unblocked your bot based on some very specific undertakings which you did indeed renege on. I do not need to re-read the discussion to know this. Based on all that has happened I am not inclined to trust you to run this bot in a responsible manner. As I said earlier my patience is exhausted and I will not be unblocking the bot. If you wish to seek review of this, you may post at the ]. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 09:36, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

If it means anything, I miss good old Smack bot; it was fast and reliable as a nuclear clock. At 22:48 I last laid down some tags @ ] and as of 02:48 the "nicely behaved bot" has not placed dates. I also liked Smack bot because it fixed any irregularities in the article while it was in there. I used to ping Smack bot with the request template just to have it clean up articles. :) So this delay going on made go and look for what happened to your bot and I find this crap. I think they threw the baby out with the bathwater. ] (]) 07:48, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

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==Birds summary==
Ref: ]

There are 3 lists:
* IUCN
* HBW (IBC)
* IOC

These can be used to ref montoypic genera.

Moreover the IUCN website has changed and the refs need updating. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>20:33, 4 December 2011 (UTC).</small><br />

==References to IUCN on bird pages==

See discussion at ] and on WP bird talk page. These links have plagued the WP Birds project for a number of years. I guess that it would need scraping the website. Any thoughts. ] (]) 20:17, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
:See above section: I have the data, Just need to firm up exactly what is needed - maybe some thinking time would be good. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>14:25, 30 November 2011 (UTC).</small><br />

==Two Barnstars for your great work==

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:Thanks! Barnstars are cool. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>21:05, 19 November 2011&nbsp;(UTC).</small><br />


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On the Matter of John Shipp, I'm come to inform you that I will be leaving the article alone from here on out. Although I feel that the article is still questionable, consensus is clearly in your favor for the retention of the article. I tip my hat to you for the work and for being patient with even as I worked to get the article axed; most users are not that polite.
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:Thank you for those kind words. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>13:53, 18 November 2011&nbsp;(UTC).</small><br />


==Signpost and hlist== ==Cheshunt Lock and other notes==
* ] https://www.eternalwall.org.uk/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001fm77
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* Wynde Monah see also
* John Eversely https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/58673/supplement/4/data.pdf https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/the-princess-royal-shakes-hands-with-mr-john-eversley-news-photo/834710966 https://bdaily.co.uk/articles/2008/04/23/enterprising-individuals-get-queens-award https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/business/2211450.best-uk-business-recognised-awards/ https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Award+recognises+John%27s+contribution%3B+in+association+with+RBS.-a0178074996
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* Broken symmetry https://www.acsh.org/news/2022/04/13/clinical-trial-should-probably-wont-close-book-ivermectin-16244
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In your AWB ''again'' added a date template without any intrinsic cause. Please Stop That! ] (]) 15:43, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
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:So if someone were to add a reference with a different date style, that would be a good thing? '']&nbsp;]'', <small>16:28, 26 November 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
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:: Шn my understanding, these templates are first and foremost for the date formats as they are used in the text of the article itself. And even then, and regardless of that, if there is no intrinsic reason for an article to use a certain date format (e.g. an article about an English township should use dmy, and an article about a Canadian province mdy), I don't think incidental usage of a certain type of date format should be used as an indicator. Perhaps if there were five instances, e.g., all in the same date format, that would qualify as more than incidental usage. Has this been discussed somewhere? ] (]) 22:53, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
:::Actually Canadian usage varies even more widely than American (our Canadian colleagues have told us), although there seems to be a surprising consistency in the WP articles. In terms of difference between ref dates and content dates there is a red-herring in that when wee were writing the MoS we did not want to prohibit (preferably uniform) 1999-12-31 date style in references. On a later discussion proposing that all access dates be in that style, at least two otherwise intelligent editors swore blind that they were incapable of understanding dates in that format, until they were explained to them - otherwise I would have backed that proposal to the hilt. In terms of first usage there is no de minimus requirement, and nor should there be one, it would result in (even more) endless squabbling ("yes there were x dmy dates. but only because you converted my x-1 mdy and one ymd"). If there is a good reason to change (which is really only "national ties") it should just be changed with a suitable edit summary. Extensive discussions on date styles will be found in the archive of MoSNUM talk. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>13:13, 27 November 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
:::: So here you are, saying the same thing as I do. So then why did you add a date format when there was no good reason? Pray tell. ] (]) 14:59, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
::::: I'm saying that the reason for accepting different date formats in refs is to allow (DMY, YMD) and (MDY,YMD) not (DMY,MDY) or (MDY,DMY). '']&nbsp;]'', <small>15:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
:::::: I see. But that still doesn't resolve our argument. Should a date format template be added in a case where 1. there is no substantial reason to prefer one date format over the other, and 2. the only practical uniformity is in references, while the article itself does not have any dates? ] (]) 13:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


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''' Press, articles, blog posts, videos '''
==Article Feedback Tool newsletter==
* Blogs: (fr) , blog post by ''Le Deuxième Texte'' including SPARQL queries to find female authors with male pseudonyms.
Hey, all! A quick update on how version 5 of the Article Feedback Tool is developing. I'm sending this to both newsletter recipients and regular participants, because I appreciate we've been a bit quiet :).
* Websites :, website by 'Students at the Maastricht Science Programme', includes data visualizations of the prevalence and current treatments of dementia across the world. It utilises data extracted as SPARQL Endpoints from Wikidata.
* Papers
** - This paper proposes an ontology-driven approach to KG construction using LLMs where competency questions guide ontology creation and relation extraction, leveraging Wikidata for semantic consistency. A scalable pipeline minimizes human effort while producing high-quality, interpretable KGs interoperable with Wikidata for knowledge base expansion. By Xiaohan Feng, Xixin Wu & Helen Meng (2024).
** - Proposes a Visual Question Answering (VQA) model that integrates external knowledge from Wikidata to address complex open-domain questions by combining image, question, and knowledge modalities. Evaluated on the VQAv2 dataset, the model outperforms prior state-of-the-art approaches, demonstrating improved reasoning and accuracy (Koshti et al., 2024).
* Videos: (arabic) - Sparql SERVICE clause gives access to additional data such as labels via wikibase:label, interaction with MediaWiki APIs using wikibase:mwapi, and integration of data from subgraphs (such as the main graph and the scholarly articles graph). Integration of data from external SPARQL endpoints such as DBpedia.


''' Tool of the week '''
So, we're just wrapping up the first round of user contributions. A big thank you to everyone who has contributed ideas (a full list of which can be found at the top of the page); thanks almost entirely to contributions by editors, the tool looks totally different to how it did two months ago when we were starting out. Big ideas that have made it in include a comment voting system, courtesy of ], an idea for a more available way of deploying the feedback box, suggested by ], and the eventual integration of both oversight and the existing spam filtering tools into the new version, courtesy of..well, everyone, really :).
* - is a Microsoft Edge browser extension that creates web links for matching inner HTML text based on a regex format of Q\d+ which is the format of a Wikidata Entity ID. ()


''' Other Noteworthy Stuff '''
For now, the devs are building the first prototypes, and all the features specifications have been finalised. That doesn't mean you can't help out, however; we'll have a big pile of shiny prototypes to play around with quite soon. If you're interested in testing those, we'll be unveiling it all at this week's office hours session, which will be held on Friday 2 December at . If you can't make it, just sign up ]. After that, we have a glorious round of testing to undertake; we'll be finding out what form works the best, what wording works the best, and pretty much everything else under the sun. As part of that, we need editors - people who know just what to look for - to review some sample reader comments, and make calls on which ones are useful, which ones are spam, so on and so forth. If that's something you'd be interested in doing, drop an email to okeyes@wikimedia.org.
* - The Technische Informationsbibliothek (TIB) located in Hannover has a research position open for someone interested in the deployment, administration and maintenance of open source knowledge management software such as Mediawiki, Wikibase and OpenRefine as part of the NFDI4Culture partnership within the OSL.
* January 1, 2025, marked Public Domain Day, with hundreds of 1929 films entering the public domain. ] has shared ] to assist in making these films discoverable via ], by adding video files to Wikicommons and Wikidata. Join the effort!


'''Newest ] and ] to review'''
Thanks to everyone for their contributions so far. We're making good headway, and moving forward pretty quickly :). ] (]) 16:41, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
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* Newest General datatypes:
**] (<nowiki>the sum a organisations receives from bequests/legacies in a timeframe</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>taxon item of which this common name refers</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>taxon item of which the taxon name is an exact homonym</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>use as qualifier to indicate how the object's role was named in the credits of its respective work</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>subject is a meeting or session of this organization</nowiki>)
* Newest External identifiers: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ]
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* New General datatypes property proposals to review:
**] (<nowiki>Screenshot of the About Box of the respective software (contains important information such as authors, license, version number and year(s) and is included in almost every software)</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>country specific tax status of organisations like non-profits</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>taxon item of which this item is the taxonomic type</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Propriety of World heritage site : the Type (Cultural, Natural, Mixed)</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>DVD release is restricted to region code</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Number of shading units in a graphics card.</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>identifier of elements of the National archaeological register of Moldova</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>works of art performed, displayed or presented at a given event</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki></nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Maximum beam energy of a particle accelerator</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Crime or other misdeed a person has been accused of, but ''not proven or convicted''</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Amount of money donated to a person or organization</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>The name that this qualifies, the full contents of which are unknown, is known to start with these characters.</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>formal styles of address used for members of the clergy</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>User ID on a2b2.org</nowiki>)
* New External identifier property proposals to review: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ]
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You can comment on ]!
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''' Did you know? '''
There was a question on ] about a template you made. I gave an answer, but you may have more to say. ] (]) 17:26, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
* Query examples:
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* Newest ]: ] aims to list French-language awards and to ensure the mention of a source associated with each award.
* Newest ]: ]
* ]: ] - sled dog race
* ]: ] - Norwegian irregular verb "to pull", "to drag", or "to draw"


''' Development '''
: Thanks for doing so. ] (]) 07:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
* The development team is just settling back in after the holidays, so there haven’t been any significant updates yet.


]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at .
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''' Weekly Tasks '''
There is a good question at ]. I couldn't really answer it. If the answer is that such a change could be made, go ahead. I'll update the documentation afterwards. ] (]) 15:52, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
* Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed ].
: Thanks for your input. ] (]) 07:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
* Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme ].
* Govdirectory weekly focus country:
* Summarize your ] in one or two sentences.
* Help ] or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
* ] across Wikimedia projects.
* Help ]
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==Change of venue==
Talk page followers might be interested in ]. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>11:23, 1 December 2011 (UTC).</small><br />


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]
I created {{Tl|Cat use dmy dates}} and {{Tl|Cat use mdy dates}} and applied them to the most obvious categories having to do with ballet companies and dancers (which is all I really care about!)
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">'' Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the<br>week leading up to 2025-01-13. Missed the previous one? See issue ]''</div>
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''' Events '''
They are crude copies of {{Tl|Use dmy dates}} and {{Tl|Use mdy dates}}, merely omitting the ''onlyarticles'' parameter.
* ]:
** The next ] will take place on Wednesday, 17:00 UTC, 15th January 2025 (18:00 Berlin time) in the . The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
** organised by Wikimedia Botswana UG for Wikidata enthusiasts of all levels. Starts 18 Jan 10:00am CAT (UTC+2), registration required.


''' Press, articles, blog posts, videos '''
I don't know whether there is an ''onlycategories'' parameter; but, if there were I would include it.
* Blogs
**]
** ] - The newly published Wikidata module for the Hidden Figures CURE teaches undergraduates to use Wikidata for uncovering and highlighting the contributions of hidden figures in natural history, such as women, people of color, and Indigenous peoples.
** ] - Efforts to improve the representation of UNESCO's Memory of the World (MOW) international register on Wikidata include new articles, enhanced data quality, and training on creating structured data. Key contributions involve updating Misplaced Pages and Wikidata entries, addressing data inconsistencies, and expanding the visibility of MOW inscriptions across languages.
** ] - Introduces the ] for your browser. A project funded by the Arcadia grant through Wikimedia Deutschland and fiscally sponsored by the Dagbani Wikimedians user group.
** (in Catalan). The article discusses how Wikidata is being used to enhance the visibility of public domain works by integrating copyright information and making it easily accessible.
* Videos
**
**
* Presentations: ''Wikibase e Wikidata per lo studio dell'epigrafia greca'' (in Italian, i.e. Wikibase and Wikidata for the study of Greek epigraphy), presentation at SAEG (Advanced Seminar of Greek Epigraphy) IX in Rome, 10 January 2025, by ], ], ] - ]


''' Tool of the week '''
I just made the presence of the templates visible within the categories in which they are present: ''Articles in this category use dmy dates'' (and vice verse).
* - is a roguelike game with Items generated from Wikidata that lets you crawl through the Dungeon of Knowledge in a classic ASCII interface. () ()


''' Other Noteworthy Stuff '''
For the benefit of editors who do things the old-fashioned way, by hand.
* ] has joined the (SCoT) at Wikimedia Deutschland as an intern until the end of June 2025. Welcome Zita!
* (cf. ] and ]) underwent a relevant change of interface on January 10; the way of visualizing clusters in JSON format has changed in comparison with and e.g. http://viaf.org/viaf/102333412/viaf.json doesn't work anymore; this broke most or all Wikidata gadgets using VIAF data; in the absence of official communications from OCLC, developers are trying to understand if the new VIAF interface is stable before changing their gadgets accordingly


'''Newest ] and ] to review'''
This discussion began on my talk page, the ] section, ]
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* Newest General datatypes:
**] (<nowiki>the sum a organisations receives from bequests/legacies in a timeframe</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>taxon item of which this common name refers</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>taxon item of which the taxon name is an exact homonym</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>use as qualifier to indicate how the object's role was named in the credits of its respective work</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>subject is a meeting or session of this organization</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>jurisdiction specific tax status of organisations like non-profits</nowiki>)
* Newest External identifiers: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ]
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* New General datatypes property proposals to review:
**] (<nowiki>Screenshot of the About Box of the respective software (contains important information such as authors, license, version number and year(s) and is included in almost every software)</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>taxon item of which this item is the taxonomic type (name-bearing type), e.g. the family for which this genus is the type, the genus for which this species is the type, the taxon for which this type specimen is the type, ect...</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Propriety of World heritage site : the Type (Cultural, Natural, Mixed)</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>DVD release is restricted to region code</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>number of shading units in a graphics processing unit</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>identifier of elements of the National archaeological register of Moldova</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>works of art performed, displayed or presented at a given event</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki></nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Maximum beam energy of a particle accelerator</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Crime or other misdeed a person has been accused of, but ''not proven or convicted''</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Amount of money donated to a person or organization</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>The name that this qualifies, the full contents of which are unknown, is known to start with these characters.</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>formal styles of address used for members of the clergy</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>User ID on a2b2.org</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>headword languge of dictionary</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Height of the entrance above ground level for boarding public transport vehicles.</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>the location code of the location item. Should be used with qualifier property {{Q|P459}} to specify which location code system being used.</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>Identifier for a sportsperson connected to Djurgårdens IF on difhistoria.se (official site)</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>number of texture mapping units in a graphics processing unit</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>number of render output units in a graphics processing unit</nowiki>)
**] (<nowiki>number of ray tracing cores in a graphics processing unit</nowiki>)
* New External identifier property proposals to review: ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ]
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] wrote that he uses a script to tag articles MDY or DMY and could use some help modifying it.


''' Did you know? '''
Rather than expect a script to search up and down the category tree for each article it seemed wiser to do so once and for all, tagging the categories by hand.
* Query examples:
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* Newest ]: ] aims to standardize and enhance Misplaced Pages's coverage of writing systems and related subjects.
* Newest ]: ]
* ]: ] - 1642 painting by Rembrandt
* ]: ] - Rusian noun (dopólnenie) that can mean "addition", "supplement" or an "an object"


''' Development '''
Ohconfucius' script needs to be modified to detect the presence of the ''Cat use dmy dates'' and ''Cat use mdy dates'' templates in any of the categories in which a given article directly resides.
* Wikidata Query Service UI: We fixed a long-standing issue with missing edge labels in graph visualisations (])
* Wikibase REST API: We implemented a ] you can try out.
* EntitySchemas: We’re working on language fallback for the heading on EntitySchema pages (])
* Language codes: We cleaned up language codes in WikibaseLexeme after moving some of them to CLDR (])


]. If you want to help, you can also have a look at .
''NB'' There will be articles that lie in categories that are tagged both ways, ] being a prime example; these ambiguous articles will need to be skipped by the script.


''' Weekly Tasks '''
Ideally the script would put out a list of articles requiring human intevention — but this is far from an ideal world.
* Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed ].
* Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme ].
* Govdirectory weekly focus country: ]
* Summarize your ] in one or two sentences.
* Help ] or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
* ] across Wikimedia projects.
* Help ]
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== Tech News: 2025-03 ==
I would not be asking you, a veteran of the Date Wars, to re-enlist, but hope that this can be done discreetly and so avert future Date Wars.


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You are absolutely right about how unimportant this, date format, is.
Latest ''']''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. ] are available.


'''Weekly highlight'''
Indeed, I'd be happier if there were fewer scipts being run, ideally none, and people would do some real editing for a change! — ] (]) 21:21, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
* The Single User Login system is being updated over the next few months. This is the system which allows users to fill out the login form on one Wikimedia site and get logged in on all others at the same time. It needs to be updated because of the ways that browsers are increasingly restricting cross-domain cookies. To accommodate these restrictions, login and account creation pages will move to a central domain, but it will still appear to the user as if they are on the originating wiki. The updated code will be enabled this week for users on test wikis. This change is planned to roll out to all users during February and March. See ] for more details and a timeline.


'''Updates for editors'''
===thank you ===
* On wikis with ] installed, you can now ] to pages in a given WikiProject by using the <code dir=ltr>inproject:</code> keyword. (These wikis: {{int:project-localized-name-arwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-enwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-enwikivoyage/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-frwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-huwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-newiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-trwiki/en}}{{int:comma-separator/en}}{{int:project-localized-name-zhwiki/en}})
* One new wiki has been created: a {{int:project-localized-name-group-wikipedia}} in ] (])
* ] View all {{formatnum:35}} community-submitted {{PLURAL:35|task|tasks}} that were ]. For example, there was a bug with updating a user's edit-count after making a rollback edit, which is now fixed.


'''Updates for technical contributors'''
Thank you for the advice! — ] (]) 01:30, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
* ] Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. Starting the week of January 13, we will begin rerouting ] from RESTbase to the newer MediaWiki REST API endpoints for all wiki projects. This change was previously available on testwiki and should not affect existing functionality, but active users of the impacted endpoints may raise issues directly to the ] in Phabricator if they arise.
* Toolforge tool maintainers can now share their feedback on Toolforge UI, an initiative to provide a web platform that allows creating and managing Toolforge tools through a graphic interface, in addition to existing command-line workflows. This project aims to streamline active maintainers’ tasks, as well as make registration and deployment processes more accessible for new tool creators. The initiative is still at a very early stage, and the Cloud Services team is in the process of collecting feedback from the Toolforge community to help shape the solution to their needs. ].
* ] For tool and library developers who use the OAuth system: The identity endpoint used for ] and ] returned a JSON object with an integer in its <code>sub</code> field, which was incorrect (the field must always be a string). This has been fixed; the fix will be deployed to Wikimedia wikis on the week of January 13.
* Many wikis currently use ] to render custom footnote markers in Parsoid output. Starting January 20 these rules will be disabled, but the developers ask you to ''not'' clean up your <bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">]</bdi> until February 20 to avoid issues during the migration. Your wikis might experience some small changes to footnote markers in Visual Editor and when using experimental Parsoid read mode, but if there are changes these are expected to bring the rendering in line with the legacy parser output.


'''Meetings and events'''
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* The next meeting in the series of ] will take place on ] and ]. The topic of this call is defining the priorities in tool investment for Commons. Contributors from all wikis, especially users who are maintaining tools for Commons, are welcome to attend.


''''']''' prepared by ] and posted by ]&nbsp;• ]&nbsp;• ]&nbsp;• ]&nbsp;• ]&nbsp;• ].''
Could you please elaborate on your answer in this ]. It seems it is interpreted differently by me and ]. Thanks. — ] ] 08:19, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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<bdi lang="en" dir="ltr">]</bdi> 01:40, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
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== January music ==
] explicitly gives &lt;blockquote> as an example of how to format a block quote. There is no reason to replace this with {{tl|Block quote}}, as that template is only useful when the additional parameters are used. In particular this edit is a violation of your editing restriction. &mdash;&nbsp;Carl <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 12:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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:Agree in general with the above, but in this case Rich actually fixed the quote because it was not closed properly. I have now refixed it. &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>(]&nbsp;·&nbsp;])</small> 12:54, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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Happy new year 2025! Today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. -- ] (]) 20:54, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


== ''The Signpost'': 15 January 2025 ==
==Substitution checking==

Please see the two sections I posted about this subject on ] and ] (one right after the other). I compare Ambox with Fix, asking a few questions and making a few suggestions. ] (]) 20:26, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
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:Thanks! '']&nbsp;]'', <small>21:52, 3 December 2011 (UTC).</small><br />


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Hi Rich. I just wondered if the original creation of the article for the American TV series '']'' (which is fine as it is and I edited it recently as well) had a kind of flaw in its creation. It ''seems'' that the original article was created by an editor called "frappeinc" (]) which happens to be the production company for the show and owned by ] in NYC: . That was the only contribution by that user. Was it a COI originally? Bests. --- (Bob) ] (]) 16:31, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
:I would say so. Unless it's a copyvio there's nothing we need to do about it now. '']&nbsp;]'', <small>18:09, 4 December 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
::Right. Thanks for having a look, Rich. Bests. --- (Bob) ] (]) 22:36, 4 December 2011 (UTC)


== Assistance with Misplaced Pages Page Creation ==
==Governing hierarchy and structure of WP==


Hello Rich Farmbrough,
Hi Rich: You commented earlier upon to the page ] outlining the formal structure of WP. Since your comments, a number of further changes have been suggested and implemented. Could you take another look at this proposal and comment further? Thanks for your assistance. ] (]) 20:38, 4 December 2011 (UTC)


I came across your contributions on Misplaced Pages and was wondering if you might be able to help. I am interested in creating a Misplaced Pages page for '''Start.me''', a bookmark manager that has been covered in . I want to ensure it meets Misplaced Pages's '''notability and neutrality guidelines'''. Would you be willing to provide guidance or review a draft? Any advice would be much appreciated.
==OK, here's the pi-jaw==


Best regards,
I let that discussion at ] run itself into the ground, in the benighted hope that you would stop making the edits that are driving people mad. However, it appears that like everyone ele who runs bots (remember I'm on a committee with Xeno and Coren) you are an anal retentive with OCD on the autism spectrum. Or at the very least, you can't figure why what you do is annoying people. So it falls to me, ] the ] to remind you that
{{quotation|1=regardless of the editing method (i.e. manual, semi-automatic, or automatic; from any account), ] is indefinitely prohibited from making cosmetic changes to wikicode that have no effect on the rendered page (excepting those changes that are built-in to stock AWB or those that have demonstrable consensus or BAG approval). This includes but is not limited to: changing templates to template redirects, changing template redirects to templates (see ] for AWB stock changes on this item, with the understanding that bypassing template redirects will only be done when there is a substantive edit being done), changing the spacing around headers and ordered lists (except to make an aberration consistent with the rest of the page), and changing the capitalization of templates. Furthermore, prior to orphaning/emptying and deleting categories or templates, the appropriate processes (WP:CFD/WP:TFD) should be engaged. Sanction imposed per , to be enforced by escalating blocks}}
Now you're an intelligent man, and it shouldn't come to this. So I want you to take all the code out of whatever instrument of the Devil it is that you use, that does things like and changes <nowiki><references/> to {{reflist}}</nowiki>, and switch cases the first letter of template names, and stuff like that. Because the next time that someone tells me that you have done it again, I will block you in the following sequence - 24hrs (in case you thought I wasn't serious), 1 week, 1 month, 1 year. And that would not be a good thing. ] (]) 21:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)


Stefan ] (]) 14:43, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
:With all due respect, which it seems is virtually none, you are way out of order. That is not pi-jaw, it is an out and out personal attack, coupled with an amount of stupidity that exceeds anything I would expect from a sitting arbitrator. In the attempt by people, some of whom almost certainly actually are suffering from some of the conditions you accuse me of, and of which you clearly are in almost complete ignorance, to have me hauled before the august committee upon which you sit, you accused me, without any evidence, ''from the bench'' of a number of malfeasences. In addition you stuck your hand up at ANI as willing to enforce, showing that you had completely missed the question that was being asked and had not read or understood what was going on. Nor were you capable of noticing that, in the tangent that the hijiacked thread became, new accusations that were completely wrong (I.E. factually wrong) were being thrown around like confetti.
:I must say this is a disappointment, after the way you handled the question of the ethnic make up of Gibraltar, I had conceived that you were competent. That estimation began to evaporate rapidly when you made your unseemly comments in ArbCom and your subsequent folly has rather inverted it.
:'']&nbsp;]'', <small>21:51, 4 December 2011 (UTC).</small><br />
::Do you want your rattle back yet? I waited out the AN report in the hope that you would be more intelligent than a certain other editor whose case I have shortly to go and write up, and would actually be able to stop pissing people off by making piddling edits that achieve no purpose that the community can fathom. I tried to be lighthearted because I know you actually edit articles as well, so you do speak a language other than Python. But no. For some reason, every chap with a bot has to make a blamed nuisance of themselves, like cycle couriers whizzing about the pavement and periodically mowing down pedestrians who don't get out of the way fast enough. Explain to me what was the point of anything in this edit other than moving the Lennon and McCartney wikilink from pointing to a redirect to pointing to the current title, which does have some limited use, I'll grant you. Convince me it serves some useful purpose. ] (]) 23:11, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #661

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-01-06. Missed the previous one? See issue #660

Discussions

Upcoming events

  • Workshop: Lexicography and linguistic sustainability - Mirandese documentation using Wikidata This Portuguese-language workshop takes place Thursday 16 January, 10:00 - 17:00, Room 208, 206 at the Faculty of Letters of the University of Porto.
  • Please submit your proposals for the Data Reuse Days online event until January 12th. See current proposals on the talk page and here's some ideas to inspire you: presentations/demos of tools using Wikidata's data (10mins Lightning Talk presentations), discussions and presentations connecting Wikidata editors with reusers and/or explanations and demos on how to use a specific part of the technical infrastructure to reuse Wikidata's data (APIs, dumps, etc.).
  • Talk to the Search Platform / Query Service Team --January 8, 2025. The Search Platform Team holds monthly meetings to discuss anything related to Wikimedia search, Wikidata Query Service (WDQS), Wikimedia Commons Query Service (WCQS), etc.! Time: 16:00-17:00 UTC / 08:00 PDT / 11:00 EDT / 17:00 CET
  • The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, 17:00 UTC, 15th January 2025 (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
  • Wiki Workshop 2025 Announcement and Call for Papers. Submission deadline: March 9, 2025 (23:59 AoE)

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

  • Blogs: (fr) female authors with male pseudonyms, blog post by Le Deuxième Texte including SPARQL queries to find female authors with male pseudonyms.
  • Websites :Global Dementia and Risk Factors, website by 'Students at the Maastricht Science Programme', includes data visualizations of the prevalence and current treatments of dementia across the world. It utilises data extracted as SPARQL Endpoints from Wikidata.
  • Papers
    • Ontology-grounded Automatic Knowledge Graph Construction by LLM under Wikidata schema - This paper proposes an ontology-driven approach to KG construction using LLMs where competency questions guide ontology creation and relation extraction, leveraging Wikidata for semantic consistency. A scalable pipeline minimizes human effort while producing high-quality, interpretable KGs interoperable with Wikidata for knowledge base expansion. By Xiaohan Feng, Xixin Wu & Helen Meng (2024).
    • Knowledge Incorporated Image Question Answering Using Wikidata Repository - Proposes a Visual Question Answering (VQA) model that integrates external knowledge from Wikidata to address complex open-domain questions by combining image, question, and knowledge modalities. Evaluated on the VQAv2 dataset, the model outperforms prior state-of-the-art approaches, demonstrating improved reasoning and accuracy (Koshti et al., 2024).
  • Videos: (arabic) Part 6: SPARQL Demo Session: connecting external services - Sparql SERVICE clause gives access to additional data such as labels via wikibase:label, interaction with MediaWiki APIs using wikibase:mwapi, and integration of data from subgraphs (such as the main graph and the scholarly articles graph). Integration of data from external SPARQL endpoints such as DBpedia.

Tool of the week

  • Wikidata Entity Linker - is a Microsoft Edge browser extension that creates web links for matching inner HTML text based on a regex format of Q\d+ which is the format of a Wikidata Entity ID. (email)

Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • Vacancy: Research Software Engineer / Wikibase-Expert - The Technische Informationsbibliothek (TIB) located in Hannover has a research position open for someone interested in the deployment, administration and maintenance of open source knowledge management software such as Mediawiki, Wikibase and OpenRefine as part of the NFDI4Culture partnership within the OSL.
  • January 1, 2025, marked Public Domain Day, with hundreds of 1929 films entering the public domain. Sandra has shared helpful notes to assist in making these films discoverable via WikiFlix, by adding video files to Wikicommons and Wikidata. Join the effort!

Newest properties and property proposals to review

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Development

  • The development team is just settling back in after the holidays, so there haven’t been any significant updates yet.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

Weekly Tasks

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Wikidata weekly summary #662

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata in the
week leading up to 2025-01-13. Missed the previous one? See issue #661

Events

  • Upcoming events:
    • The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, 17:00 UTC, 15th January 2025 (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
    • Join the Wikidata Training Event 2025 organised by Wikimedia Botswana UG for Wikidata enthusiasts of all levels. Starts 18 Jan 10:00am CAT (UTC+2), registration required.

Press, articles, blog posts, videos

Tool of the week

  • Dungeon Of Knowledge - is a roguelike game with Items generated from Wikidata that lets you crawl through the Dungeon of Knowledge in a classic ASCII interface. (toot) (blog)

Other Noteworthy Stuff

  • Zita Ursula Zage has joined the Software Communication team (SCoT) at Wikimedia Deutschland as an intern until the end of June 2025. Welcome Zita!
  • VIAF (cf. Q54919 and P214) underwent a relevant change of interface on January 10; the way of visualizing clusters in JSON format has changed in comparison with present OCLC documentation and e.g. http://viaf.org/viaf/102333412/viaf.json doesn't work anymore; this broke most or all Wikidata gadgets using VIAF data; in the absence of official communications from OCLC, developers are trying to understand if the new VIAF interface is stable before changing their gadgets accordingly

Newest properties and property proposals to review

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Did you know?

Development

  • Wikidata Query Service UI: We fixed a long-standing issue with missing edge labels in graph visualisations (phab:T317702)
  • Wikibase REST API: We implemented a proof of concept for a search endpoint you can try out.
  • EntitySchemas: We’re working on language fallback for the heading on EntitySchema pages (phab:T228423)
  • Language codes: We cleaned up language codes in WikibaseLexeme after moving some of them to CLDR (phab:T352922)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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Tech News: 2025-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Weekly highlight

  • The Single User Login system is being updated over the next few months. This is the system which allows users to fill out the login form on one Wikimedia site and get logged in on all others at the same time. It needs to be updated because of the ways that browsers are increasingly restricting cross-domain cookies. To accommodate these restrictions, login and account creation pages will move to a central domain, but it will still appear to the user as if they are on the originating wiki. The updated code will be enabled this week for users on test wikis. This change is planned to roll out to all users during February and March. See the SUL3 project page for more details and a timeline.

Updates for editors

  • On wikis with PageAssessments installed, you can now filter search results to pages in a given WikiProject by using the inproject: keyword. (These wikis: Arabic Misplaced Pages, English Misplaced Pages, English Wikivoyage, French Misplaced Pages, Hungarian Misplaced Pages, Nepali Misplaced Pages, Turkish Misplaced Pages, Chinese Misplaced Pages)
  • One new wiki has been created: a Misplaced Pages in Tigre (w:tig:)
  • Recurrent item View all 35 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, there was a bug with updating a user's edit-count after making a rollback edit, which is now fixed.

Updates for technical contributors

  • Advanced item Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. Starting the week of January 13, we will begin rerouting some page content endpoints from RESTbase to the newer MediaWiki REST API endpoints for all wiki projects. This change was previously available on testwiki and should not affect existing functionality, but active users of the impacted endpoints may raise issues directly to the MediaWiki Interfaces Team in Phabricator if they arise.
  • Toolforge tool maintainers can now share their feedback on Toolforge UI, an initiative to provide a web platform that allows creating and managing Toolforge tools through a graphic interface, in addition to existing command-line workflows. This project aims to streamline active maintainers’ tasks, as well as make registration and deployment processes more accessible for new tool creators. The initiative is still at a very early stage, and the Cloud Services team is in the process of collecting feedback from the Toolforge community to help shape the solution to their needs. Read more and share your thoughts about Toolforge UI.
  • Advanced item For tool and library developers who use the OAuth system: The identity endpoint used for OAuth 1 and OAuth 2 returned a JSON object with an integer in its sub field, which was incorrect (the field must always be a string). This has been fixed; the fix will be deployed to Wikimedia wikis on the week of January 13.
  • Many wikis currently use Cite CSS to render custom footnote markers in Parsoid output. Starting January 20 these rules will be disabled, but the developers ask you to not clean up your MediaWiki:Common.css until February 20 to avoid issues during the migration. Your wikis might experience some small changes to footnote markers in Visual Editor and when using experimental Parsoid read mode, but if there are changes these are expected to bring the rendering in line with the legacy parser output.

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Assistance with Misplaced Pages Page Creation

Hello Rich Farmbrough,

I came across your contributions on Misplaced Pages and was wondering if you might be able to help. I am interested in creating a Misplaced Pages page for Start.me, a bookmark manager that has been covered in independent sources. I want to ensure it meets Misplaced Pages's notability and neutrality guidelines. Would you be willing to provide guidance or review a draft? Any advice would be much appreciated.

Best regards,

Stefan Stefanstartme (talk) 14:43, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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