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== Cahercommaun ==
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hey @] you reverted my changes and removed credible sources from the page, may I ask why?
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the article's lead says it's "sometimes ''Cahercommane"'' which is as I found the page, but I added a source from Clare Libary: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm
== 360view ==


You removed this.
The website is repeatedly removed and should not be added without discussion. Unfortunately, the website does not add anything to the article. Especially adding it to articles as ] and ] make clear that it is far more website promo then adding something substantial to the website. So please, stop adding the website. And plaese, don't use multiple identities to do this... ] ] 18:11, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


Then the archaeological section is referring to a study from a 1934 excavation without recent developments.
:I added link Brian Boru as to give a sense to the viewers of Brian Boru´s ancient dwelling place. The Féile an Phobail was a virtual tour of the community parade of the event. People are using nearly identical idenities as mine to delete and add spam. 360eire is non commercial website promoting the community and history of the island of Ireland. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:26, 30 December 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::I have looked at several of your links and viewed it. Even with places I know personally (like Kilkee) it noticed that it did not add anything useful to the article. Sorry. For more information: ] ] ] 18:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the adding that information. I notice that it does add to the article of Kilkee, especially the aspect of the Currach races that are held there each summer. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:May I advice you to stop pushing it? And secondly, could you plaese sign your edits on talkpage with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> (four tildes)? Those tildes will automagically be replaced by your name, date and time. ] ] 18:48, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
::I will stop pushing it. If I add any links I will text in discussion page before hand. Thanks ] (]) 18:55, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
:::I am disappointed that you not only keep pushing the site, but also uses sockpuppets for it. I advice you to request a voluntary block of '''''all''' your sockpuppets. I am still working on the report (see the draft: ]). You better ask yourself, because if I file this report you will be in serious trouble. ] ] 07:02, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


Since then, the historian Gibson (professor of anthropology with a Phd in irish chiefdoms) has written an academic dissertation in 1990 identifying this site as the capital of the chiefdom of ''Tulach Commáin'' ("The Mound of Commán" a once locally revered chief, anglicised to Commane).
This person is posting and deleting my posts and using a nearly identical username as me. There must be rules as to usernames. http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Diallin ] (]) 19:24, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
::{{tps}} The best thing you can do is report them at ]. Which I'm guessing that you may have done in the past, and it was unsuccessful (based on their talk page). However there does seem to be a clear pattern and so action may be more likely now. --] (]) 19:39, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


His work is quoted by many scholars, I've added this point again with many sources.
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No worries if this was just an oversight—happy to discuss further if needed!
Will you please explain your reasoning for removing the link repeatedly, and who you suspect of being a sock puppet. So far you have not explained either.--] (]) 09:03, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
:Stil working on it, but here is the explanation: ] ] ] 09:05, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
::I find it offensive that I have been listed as a sockpuppet on the list. Have a look at my history and you will see that I have been on Misplaced Pages with only that name for several years. Please remove me immediately.--] (]) 09:10, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
:::As I said, I am still working on it. Some pollution during processing is evitable. ] ] 09:13, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


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:Outdated source and poor sources. It looks more like wishful thinking then proper sources. Westropp is only reliable for his drawings but beside that he made a lot of mistakes and misconceptions. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 15:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::Yes the information on the current page is outdated as I said it's from a 1934 excavation.
::The links I inserted is the recent research, Gibson also published a book in 2012 on Irish Chiefdoms specifically on this subject. ] (]) 15:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Another source National library of Ireland referred to as Cahercommane
:::: https://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000742581/HierarchyTree?recordID=vtls000742581 ] (]) 15:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Monument Name: Cahercommane
::::https://clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/archaeology/CL010-06403-.htm
::::Your objection to adding credible sources to the page and deleting my redirect link is unfounded Sir ] (]) 15:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Too bad that you keep referring to Westropp. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::You don't seem to grasp that names in Ireland are often referred to by different spellings.
::::::Even historically, chiefdoms to quote gibson were known by a multiplicity of names.
::::::I've lived in this area all my life and it's always been referred to this way.
::::::For example, look at this site: https://www.logainm.ie/en/22342 and scroll down to Historical References there's about 20 different spellings if you look at the different years.
::::::If you're not going to allow credible sources on the page then I will have to escalate the issue. ] (]) 15:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Is that a threat? Or a promise that you start a new excavation soon? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 15:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Ow, and read "Burren archaeology : a tour guide" by historian Hugh Carthy. Worth a read. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 16:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Will check it out.
::::::::No threat. I don't think I'm being unreasonable here, so if we can't agree, other opinions will be needed and I will be opening a case. ] (]) 16:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::objecting to my redirect link.... why? ] (]) 16:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::That is clearly stated in the nomination. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 16:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::I've just explained why you're mistaken. ] (]) 16:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:https://en.wiktionary.org/commane interesting! dictionary describes ''commane'' an alternative form of ''commaun''
:there is no misconception or mistake—except, perhaps, in your stance. ] (]) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:Hi @] check this https://www.logainm.ie/en/35676 1838 there are 13 different spellings for the same spot 🤪 ] (]) 14:59, 11 January 2025 (UTC)


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==Irish people of British (sic) descent==

Firstly, I must apologise for adding the category to far too many articles. Once again, my enthusiasm got the better of me. It would have being better if I created articles on the surnames concerned, all of which demonstrate British ancestry (I mean British in both sences - Cymric speakers from Strathclyde/Cumbria/Wales/Cornwall/Isle of Man, and people from the island of Britan). Breathnach, Walsh, Wallace, and related names belong in this broad category. I also included people who bore surnames of French or English surnames, or who had a parent or grandparent who was French or English, in similar categories. Regarding Isabel de Clare, I thought that as she was part-Welsh it would be obvious that she was of British descent. Shall I revert all the articles, or have you already done so? Thanks for your input, and especially your courtesy! Is mise, ] (]) 04:15, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

: Does this - ] - help explain the matter? ] (]) 05:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

::Not really. Several people have been reverting your edits because in most cases there was no clear proof of the British or French descent. ] ] 10:52, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

:::Glad to hear they are reverted, but surely the evidence of the surnames indicates the heart of the matter? I did at least restrain myself to surnames of demonstrable British, Welsh, French and English descent. In the case of the Pearse brothers, their father was English, as was Liam Mellows's father. De Valera's father was of Spanish descent. ] (]) 22:49, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
::::Is not that a bit far fetched? Or would you say the I am a "Dutchman of County of Hainaut descent" because a few of my ancesters came from ]? In this case, ten and eleven generations back... ] ] 23:43, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

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Hi, friend. I take it you're moving forward on an RfC on the question of notability of schools, yes? I'm actually all in favor of this and would like to co-sponsor it and help write the question in such a way that we get a clear '''A Scenario''' or '''B Scenario''' result. Drop me a line if you'd like on my talk page. ] (]) 18:09, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
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Seeing so many Michelin-starred head chef passing by, I am politely panicking by the idea to have to describe them all. The number of restaurants is already about 300, the number of starred head chefs will be at least the double. That idea is too much, even for me.

So the question is, what should be a good cut off point? Only chefs who have earned stars in 10+ years? Only chefs who have earned stars in 5+ years? Something in between? Off course, they have to satisfy ] and have adequate sourcing. That will knock quite a few of the list. Many chefs just wanted to be a chef, not a celebrity.

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:You can choose whatever personal criteria you wish to use to decide what to write about. My suggestion is to write about the notable chefs and restaurants ''you'' care about. If you have passion about the topic, the article will be better. Thank you for improving our coverage of Michelin starred restaurants and chefs. ] ] 08:25, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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Cahercommaun

hey @The Banner you reverted my changes and removed credible sources from the page, may I ask why?

the article's lead says it's "sometimes Cahercommane" which is as I found the page, but I added a source from Clare Libary: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm

You removed this.

Then the archaeological section is referring to a study from a 1934 excavation without recent developments.

Since then, the historian Gibson (professor of anthropology with a Phd in irish chiefdoms) has written an academic dissertation in 1990 identifying this site as the capital of the chiefdom of Tulach Commáin ("The Mound of Commán" a once locally revered chief, anglicised to Commane).

His work is quoted by many scholars, I've added this point again with many sources.

No worries if this was just an oversight—happy to discuss further if needed!

K Kellycrak88 (talk) 13:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Outdated source and poor sources. It looks more like wishful thinking then proper sources. Westropp is only reliable for his drawings but beside that he made a lot of mistakes and misconceptions. The Banner talk 15:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes the information on the current page is outdated as I said it's from a 1934 excavation.
The links I inserted is the recent research, Gibson also published a book in 2012 on Irish Chiefdoms specifically on this subject. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Another source National library of Ireland referred to as Cahercommane
https://catalogue.nli.ie/Collection/vtls000742581/HierarchyTree?recordID=vtls000742581 Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Monument Name: Cahercommane
https://clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/archaeology/CL010-06403-.htm
Your objection to adding credible sources to the page and deleting my redirect link is unfounded Sir Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Too bad that you keep referring to Westropp. The Banner talk 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
You don't seem to grasp that names in Ireland are often referred to by different spellings.
Even historically, chiefdoms to quote gibson were known by a multiplicity of names.
I've lived in this area all my life and it's always been referred to this way.
For example, look at this site: https://www.logainm.ie/en/22342 and scroll down to Historical References there's about 20 different spellings if you look at the different years.
If you're not going to allow credible sources on the page then I will have to escalate the issue. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Is that a threat? Or a promise that you start a new excavation soon? The Banner talk 15:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Ow, and read "Burren archaeology : a tour guide" by historian Hugh Carthy. Worth a read. The Banner talk 16:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Will check it out.
No threat. I don't think I'm being unreasonable here, so if we can't agree, other opinions will be needed and I will be opening a case. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
objecting to my redirect link.... why? Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
That is clearly stated in the nomination. The Banner talk 16:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I've just explained why you're mistaken. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
https://en.wiktionary.org/commane interesting! dictionary describes commane an alternative form of commaun
there is no misconception or mistake—except, perhaps, in your stance. Kellycrak88 (talk) 19:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi @The Banner check this https://www.logainm.ie/en/35676 1838 there are 13 different spellings for the same spot 🤪 Kellycrak88 (talk) 14:59, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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Issue 66, November – December 2024

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