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== Evidence submission closed for ''DangerousPanda'' arbitration case ==
== Help with Removing Clean Up Tags ==
{{Archive-top|1=Let's leave this here. One can recognize the legitimacy of ArbCom, but there's no human being who can recognize the legitimacy of this decision. Talk about incivility, abuse of power, a failure to investigate even a smidgen of the supposed evidence. However, trials and summary execution ''in absentia'' is the lowest of the low. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 12:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)}}
Hi DP, the evidence submission for the case closed today, the drafting arbitrators are willing to grant a brief extension for you to rebut the evidence which has been submitted if you ask for it in a timely manner. However they intend that the case will progress on schedule. For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 08:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
:Hello DP. It might be in your interest to take the opportunity to respond. The evidence is significant though not open-and-shut. (The best organized summary is perhaps in the page at ]). The most significant thing (to me) is your over-the-top rhetoric in some cases, for instance . Callanecc said that you can provide rebuttal. I assume this means you can make a response at ]. I don't see much chance of progress unless you're willing to make a concession that some things you did weren't a good idea. Why not ask ] what section to respond in. It would be hard to be an admin and not make *any* mistakes. You might also make some promise on how you intend to use your multiple accounts in the future. Thanks, ] (]) 19:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
::I haven't been involved in the case, or even really watching it, but I think it would certainly make sense for you to do what Ed suggests above. No one who has ever seriously considered being an admin, let alone anyone who has ever been one, honestly expects them to be perfect in all of their behavior. I have never gotten the impression that ArbCom tries to necessarily hold all admins to the standard of perfection. I have every reason to believe that any input you offer would be very seriously considered by the arbs and could very easily have a significant impact on their decision. ] (]) 20:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
*Panda, I agree with Ed. ] (]) 06:21, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
::: {{replyto|Drmies}} {{replyto|EdJohnston}} {{replyto|John Carter}} Oh, it has always been my intent to respond. However, even NE Ent - and Worm that Turned - knew that I was going to be away from Misplaced Pages for about a month ''before'' he filed his ArbCom case ... a little difficult to respond when I'm nowhere near a computer. Today's my first day back, and I've found a great number of surprises <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 17:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
**FWIW, I think it would be s shame if ArbCom felt the need for drastic sanctions against you due to the absence of a response and clarification from you. IMO you're too good an admin for the project to lose you. (I believe that even if the Evidence section is closed, you can make your points in the Workshop.) ] (]) 02:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


* Why don't you all leave your thoughts in the Workshop? How many admin actions has DP done? Check the logs and count 'em. What percent of these actions have been criticised in the case? Is that an acceptable error rate? DP, are you so fed up with NE Ent <s>hounding</s> pursuing you that you are too <s>nauseated</s> worn down to respond? Does NE Ent have a history of <s>hounding</s> pursuing other administrators? These are all questions that should be addressed. I want to see both sides of this dispute presented effectively so there can be a fair result. Leaving the accusers to say whatever they like un-refuted is a mistake. ] <sup>]</sup> 04:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
The article page ] was tagged as 'needing cleanup' in February 2011. I have been cleaning up the page, removing biased statements, adding references, and generally fixing grammar and syntax as needed. At this point, I think the 'needing cleanup' designation should be removed, but I'm not sure if there's a process to follow in order to do so. I'd love some guidance on whether there's a process, what that process is, or if I can just go ahead and remove the tag. Thank you! ] (]) 18:22, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
**Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a '''''contributor''''' in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a '''''free-rider''''', using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually '''''improving the encyclopedia;''''' if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.<p>One step towards redirecting them would be to start eliminating some of the large number of places which enable these folks to shirk actual editing in favor of social engineering. Another might be to institute some sort of ''quid pro quo'' whereby participation in those forums is dependent on a certain level of encyclopedia improvement.<p>Certainly, what we should '''''not''''' be doing is rewarding the free-riders' lack of value to the project by taking them seriously when they unnecessarily cause problems for editors who actually contribute to the encyclopedia. When '''''real contributors''''' disagree with other real contributors, '''''those''''' are conflicts which deserve the energy and attention of the community to resolve; when '''''free-riders''''' like NE Ent are in conflict with real contributors, they should not expect to be given the time of day, which just encourages further shirking. ] (]) 05:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
: If it's a commonly-edited page, a brief discussion on the article talkpage would probably help. If you propose the de-tag, and get no replies for 5-7 days, it's probably good to go. However, if discussion does take place, remember that ] is not a vote :-) (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 18:24, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
**:Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("{{tq|they should be gotten rid of}}"), Mr. Big Stuff!? ] (]) 04:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
***Re: "Mr. Big Stuff" Ouch, '''''that''''' hurt. What are you, 10? ] (]) 08:40, 23 December 2014 (UTC)


== Your Arb Case ==
Thanks for your help! Misplaced Pages can be a confusing place for a newcomer. :) ] (]) 22:38, 2 July 2012 (UTC)


Hey DP - It looks like you're going to lose your mop. I wanted to say that regardless whether you have the mop or not, you're still a valued editor. I don't want to see you go over losing a flag. Perhaps you weren't ready for it, perhaps the Arbs got this wrong - in either sense, you're still ''needed'' here. <span style="font-family: MV Boli;">]]</span> 23:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
== ] ==
:Hell, yes. Speaking from experience here, it can be a lot easier to contribute to the encyclopedia in terms of content related matters without the bit than it is with it. Particularly with some of the new school programs and the access to databanks. I just today saw that there is actually going to be a class program related to the religion field beginning next month. Finally. That content, frankly, has been a bloody mess for years, and having some help in it will be wonderful. And the list of other school projects is a lot longer than I had thought. An experienced editor aware of the system can ultimately do a lot in those projects, or, even, just looking at the articles we don't yet have and helping build them.
:Family issues can arise for everyone. Particularly if the family is close. And, honestly, this really is a particularly miserable time of year for anyone to bring anything to ArbCom.
:Take off all the time for the holidays as you feel like. But I sincerely hope that you realize that in a lot of ways, particularly in directly content related matters, you can probably accomplish more without the bit than with it and having to do so many admin things. ] (]) 00:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC)


It's not a requirement. But, would you refrain from using your 'alternate' account, at the case? ] (]) 17:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I almost invariably agree with your closes, but must admit that I am a bit unhappy about this one. I know that there were no "delete" !votes, but none of the "keep" !votes was even remotely based on policy. As far as I can see, DGG's argument boils down to ]. In addition, DGG (whom I respect a lot, but that doesn't mean we always agree) !voted "weak keep", so then a subsequent "Keep, per DGG" sounds not like a very considered !vote to me either. Apart from the journal's homepage, there are zero sources, so there's a serious ] problem, too. I would appreciate if you could give this a second look. Of course, I'll understand if you would come to the same conclusion, but I just want to make sure that you considered all arguments. Thanks! --] (]) 13:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
:Also, signing your replies as "the panda" may confuse editors not "in the know". Like me. ```]<small>]</small> 17:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
: Just like we have to stretch to include musicians from obscure countries even though they have a) poor sourcing, b) no websites, c) numerically poor sales (although perhaps excellent by ratio), I felt the same thing with this journal. I did find a couple of small hits inside a journalism database (but cannot include the links). Besides, DGG has never made an ] argument in his life :-) ! (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 13:13, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
::Guillaume and I have very rarely disagreed on academic journals. A few times, I've been a little more inclusive. What Guillaume saw as ILIKEIT , I intended as an argument based on CULTURALBIAS--both in the sense of the relative bias of our sources with respect to non-Western Europe journals, and their relative bias in the humanities and soft social sciences. BWilkins, I'm glad you saw it that way also, as did SQuinn. Agreed I think all around that this particular journal is borderline, and I consequently said weak keep, not keep. As I use the terms, "weak keep" or "weak delete" mean that "this is my opinion, but I would not think anyone wrong who concluded the opposite, nor will I try very hard to persuade them." I would not have appealed a contrary decision.
::More generally, there is an unresolved question in libraries and I think the academic community generally concerning the criteria for open access journals of this type. There's complete and in fact sometimes rather bitter disagreement about the extent to which academic publication ought to encompass, or even switch, to such journals. Myself, I am undecided. I observe that some of the people I trust least in my subject take extreme positions on the opposite sides, and some but not all of the people I trust most are willing to experiment with them, which leads me to think the journals might on balance be a useful supplement.
::In a situation of this sort, where there really is no accepted outside criterion, it would be difficult for us at Misplaced Pages to adopt one. I have normally !voted delete for these in the sciences, and tended to !vote in other fields on the basis of whether a substantial amount of material has been published. The question of whether to go by cataloged holdings is a difficult one: for a library, it is a small but non-zero cost to add such a journal to the catalog (It takes about 10 or 15 minutes of staff time, plus the ongoing cost of making sure it is still active with a live site). My former university decided we would add them if and only if any of the professionals or faculty asked us to do so for a particular one, a policy I supported. I added a very few--basically the ones in my subject where I would say keep at Misplaced Pages. An earlier argument for adding them all to the catalog is now obsolete: few academics rely only on formal library resources for finding material.
::I therefore think it is premature for us to have a formal discussion on this, but better to go case by case, accepting that we will make errors in both directions. ''']''' (]) 20:06, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
::: Thanks for the insightful comments DGG. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 23:12, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
::::Yes, they are insightful and I can find myself in them to a great extent. I should indeed have said "CULTURALBIAS" instead of "ILIKEIT". Nevertheless, I still disagree, I'm afraid. Cultural bias should be combated by putting in an extra effort to find sources and such and increase coverage. But I think it is wrong to try to correct this bias by abandoning all guidelines and lowering our criteria. I note that Czech sources have not been found, either (and would have been perfectly willing to accept those as evidence of notability). Library holdings have rarely (I cannot actually remember a single case) been an argument in AfD discussions of "classical" journals (i.e., print subscription journals), probably because listing in reputable and selective databases is strongly correlated with whether or not libraries will subscribe to a journal. For OA journals, I think this info is rather meaningless. It was unfortunate that DGGs "weak keep" was interpreted as "keep" by subsequent participants. As for OA journals in general, my position is, I think, basically identical to DGGs: I think the verdict is still out, but am willing to give them a chance. I'm actively involved in several such journals myself: I'm academic editor for ], and associate editor/member of the editorial board of several ] titles. But I fulfill similar roles for "classical" subscription journals (and was editor-in-chief of one until last January). Anyway, it's not that I cannot live with this article being around, it was just that I didn't think this AfD went as it should have. But that happens and WP is not really worse for it and life goes on :-). --] (]) 17:01, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


Um, huh? My alternate account is for use when I'm not at home - because at home is the only secure place where I trust being logged into that admin account. When I am at work, or elsewhere, I log into my alternate account. I've already been accused of '''choosing''' to not participate in the case, are you therefore suggesting that I refrain from participating ''until I'm back at home''? That seems counterproductive and counterintuitive, now that I'm actually ''available'' with Misplaced Pages actually being ''accessible'' to me! <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
== Personal life of Jennifer Lopez ==
::TBH, I don't quite understand your reasoning. But, I'll just count that as a failing on my part & won't trouble you any further. ] (]) 14:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
*DP, regarding what and how to comment on the proposed decision my suggestion would be that you start a new level two section and comment on each of the proposals piece by piece (may a level 3 section each or however you want to format it) within that level two section. I'll put a discussion box around it so that there won't be threaded discussion within it and you can focus on the commenting on the decision then reply to others in a sub/another section. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
:* Hi DP, similar to Dusti, I hope you continue editing. In fact, I hope you regain your mop in due course. Your involvement with unblock requests will be missed. Kindest, ] (]) 07:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC)


== Happy Holidays! ==
Hey! I noticed that ] was deleted. I just wanted to ask if you can userfy the page inside my userspace? I think that some useful information may be lost on the article and would like to bring it back to the main article. Would you do that? Regards!. —]] 20:14, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
:Wow, are you sure you want to touch that piece of junk ... it's a BLP nightmare, and worthy of a gossip column ... (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 23:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
::Please, i'll revise it. It'll be great if you do that for me. I just want to see if anything is worthy —]] 23:12, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
:::So, would you do that favor for me? :( —]] 03:08, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


Hi DP. I'm a newbie and just learning how to communicate with other Wikipedians. I just want to wish you a happy end-of-year holiday (if you observe it) and thank you for approving my request to reverse my erroneous block. May 2015 be your best year ever! ] (] 05:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC)
== The Spindrift ==


== Seasonal Greets! ==
Dear BWilkins,
This has been quite an experience. At age 74, I'm running out of time, and the remarkable tonnage of W info is exhausting (I would rather spend my time thinking about something a little more material)


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== ] closed ==
: I have just nominated the article for deletion as a non-notable book. You should not be writing article about subjects that you have a conflict of interest: indeed, you agreed to it when you signed up for an account. We spell "theatre" with an "re" and "odour" with a "ur" because we were more purist with the mother English tongue. Americans intentionally chose to distance themselves from the UK spellings after a little party in Boston harbour (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 23:05, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
::Don't forget the ]. Many United Statesians are oblivious to that one but the Canucks seem to remember somehow. :) ] <small>(])</small> 14:38, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
::: Someone told me that we Canucks packed up some beer and backbacon, marched to Washington, burnt down the White House, ran out of beer and came home. Apparently most of that is actually true...(the backbacon part is not true) (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 17:12, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
::::And the Yanks still sing about it at every ball game. Silly Yanks. I just want to know who that guy Jose is that they talk about at the beginning of the song. ] <small>(])</small> 17:15, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
::::: Heh, and for a country that soooo wanted to distance themselves from their Colonial Master, to choose the tune from a British drinking song for their National Anthem was a unique choice ... (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 17:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted:
== Ruderow ==


{{ivmbox|1=1.1) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, {{user|DangerousPanda}} is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a successful ].}}
Courtesy note: I've just left a comment at ], follow your decline of an unblock request. I think that there is some confusion going on. - ] (]) 16:04, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
: Yes, perhaps someone claims to have not understand very clear sanctions ;-) Got the note, cheers (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 17:20, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


For the Arbitration Committee, <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 08:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
== User:Bwilkins/RestrictionsProject ==
: Yeah, let me know when I actually get to participate in said case. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 10:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)


::Merry Christmas! ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 11:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Came across your mention of that potential project on Sarek's talk page. I have a suggestion. Would it be possible to have the block log display relevant editing restrictions as well as blocks? Obviously this would require a change or extension to mediawiki but such might be more workable and more easily identifiable than fully protected user subpages. Just a thought. I completely agree that the current editing restrictions process is haphazard at best. Alternatively, one could use a one second block and utilize the comment field to log the restriction and a permalink to the discussion, though this would not work for lengthy restrictions. <span style="font-size:smaller;font-family:'arial bold',sans-serif;border:1px solid Black;">]]</span> 19:08, 25 June 2012 (UTC)


*Hi DangerousPanda, this is just to inform you that I have removed administrator status from your main account and from ] - the latter being in accordance with ]. Now that's out the way, I hope you've been having a decent holiday season and I do wish you the best. ] 12:07, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
== Afanc (Dungeons & Dragons) ==
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**Actually, in response to your rather obviously biased comment , I can honestly say, as someone who has been sympathetic to your situation, that the thing that virtually no one but you can consider legitimate are your rather transparent misrepresentations of fact regarding your own ability to edit and contribute to the discussion in an appropriate way at the appropriate time. Your comments, I regret to say, make it even harder for me to see anyone else ever necessarily trusting you in your statements of opinion again. Unfortunately. ] (]) 16:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Hi Bwiklins,
::: (removed from inside archived area) {{replyto|John Carter}} I cannot fathom that lack of good faith. My family does not do laptops, tablets, etc. I'd scan hotel receipts, train tickets, etc, but that would violate my privacy even more. I did not control the time my in-laws spent here - but, as the man of the house, it was my job to keep them "entertained" as per cultural patriarchy. Since culturally they don't celebrate Christmas, I could not even install outdoor lights, decorate, etc until '''after''' they were gone, so I had t odo that after they left. I had to chauffeur them everywhere, and they wanted to see as much of the country that their daughter/sister had adopted (and Canada is, after all, a big country), plus a whackload of side trips. There was no humanly-possible way for me to be online. Hell, I got to play Farmville for the first time in ages on Christmas Eve (we don't do much Facebook usually, since most of the family don't even have internet yet!) <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 20:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
::So you had no access to WP/chance to reply from the date the case opened (19th Nov) until it closed?! Yet you appear online about 2hrs after the verdict was given to complain about it. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 11:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
::: You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
::::''Intent'' being the key word there. You then played the absentia card. Maybe all the users who thought you were a good editor would have lept to your defence? Oh, wait... ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 10:52, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
* You had supported an indefinite block(when I was the subject), later on you had closed that report with a nice message and you had given me some tips. I still remember that encouragement. You were a very nice admin and your knowledge of policies was amazing. Hope you won't give up. ] (]) 07:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)


I never really knew you, but as a fellow "abusive" ex-admin from another wiki, I'm all too familiar with what you're going through and I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. Best wishes for the future. ]] 09:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
I wanted to ask you about this close. I have no problem with your closing rationale - '''redirect''' was just about the only reasonable way to close that one. However, I noted that the prospect of a '''merge''' was also discussed, and although you deleted the edit history, your closing rationale indicated no prejudice against a merge and even mentioned that it would be "appropriate as part of list of creatures". Unless you have a significant objection to my doing so, I would like to merge information from the article into the list, and wanted to bring this up to you before I do so. ] (]) 19:40, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
: IMHO, as long as it doesn't make the "List of" article overly long, then it's probably ok. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 19:58, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
::Thanks! 's not too cumbersome, is it? ] (]) 23:22, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
::: Seems ok, IMHO. I'd bet my whole day's admin pay that it's fine ;-) = ]''']'''] 21:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


*Hey DP. I have mixed feelings about the decision. It was kind of inevitable, which makes the case look like a show trial. I'm sure the arbs were well-intentioned, but I don't think there was any realistic prospect of it going any other way. I don't think you were the terrible admin you were made out to be by some parties, but admins are vulnerable because the good work goes mostly unnoticed. You made a few bad judgements, and you didn't always handle things as well as you could have, so it's hard to disagree with the ultimate result but it is a shame, and I hope you'll stick around and continue to do good work without the bit. I'm available if you need an admin for something. A belated merry Christmas and happy new year. ] &#124; ] 17:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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*Hi DP, I'm sorry to see that was how it went. ArbCom is a big black box to me, but for what little it's worth, I'm shocked and saddened. ] (]) 20:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
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: Please learn to NOT copy/paste text from one discussion board to another. Please also learn when you have obtained the ''right'' answer, and simply then let it drop (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 09:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


*DP, {{U|HJ Mitchell|Harry}} has hit the nail on the head and I echo all his thoughts entirely. Arbs are generally a good bunch and, if anything, they are often too lenient. When an admin gets called to book however, it's a different ball game and the Committee is under enormous pressure to demonstrate that justice will be done. It's a shame you just happened to be that scapegoat. Take care, --] (]) 23:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
== ] ==
== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article ''']''' is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to ] or whether it should be ].


The article will be discussed at ] until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
I would like to know if I'm acting out in ] on the article. I removed several empty sections on the article per ] as they give no purpose at the moment. However, ] reverted it today in a edit summary of "How can it be irrelevant if the season is less than 2 weeks away?" I had asked him to go on the talk page so all the other editors can discuss if the information should be used at this time, though he ignored. Best, ]] ] 17:54, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:The only thing I don't understand is if you wanted to talk about it then why would you delete it? Couldn't you have waited until we talked about it? ] (]) 18:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
::It's against ], I should have went to the talk page first knowing how you and I don't really see eye-to-eye. But we had this discussion ] and I thought you would understand since we had reached a consensus. My two cents, its just empty sections that gives 0.99% of encyclopedic information so why keep it? It will be needed once the season officially starts. Best, ]] ] 18:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
::: Empty section? Delete on sight for something that hasn't even started yet. Especially if this was already discussed ''last'' year. Seriously you two, smarten up both of you. Have some common sense. Now take this discussion back to the article talkpage ]''']'''] 18:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


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== User ==


== Re creating page ==
Hi, I like your new signature! Do you think this is FishingKing? The signature is the same as well with all of the 'Fighting vandals' combined into it. It wouldn't go past me if it was......--] (]) 20:51, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
: I actually said on his talkpage that he ''is'' FishingKing ("monarch of anglers"...with a wikilink to his previous account). I won't tell you how easy it was to find the ]. I verified with a CU that "very likely same; agent string matches, geographic match" = ]''']'''] 20:54, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


I am musician from india,kerala.I created my wikipedia page years back.that deleted.Why it deleted ? i need to re create it now.what should i do ? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
=== Unblock on hold ===


:I'd ] and re-create it. DPanda doesn't come around much now, he's busy washing his ]. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 19:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
There is an unblock request at ]. You blocked, and suggested the account is a sockpuppet of FishingKing. Having previously encountered FishingKing sockpuppets, I was immediately struck by the fact that Xplane-maniac's writing of English seems to be different from that of FishingKing's. I also can't see any obvious evidence of sockpuppetry in the editing history, and the only page they have both edited is ]. Also, Xplane-maniac has not edited any page in common with the sockpuppet SovietMonster. Can you let me know what the evidence is, so that I can meaningfully assess the unblock request? ] (]) 20:56, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
:Due to your ] you should NOT create or directly edit any article or content about yourself. If you think that you meet ], you can ] -- ] 19:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
: See above. Also, look at one of the earliest versions of Xplane's user page, and compare it to Fish's = ]''']'''] 20:57, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


== Stub barnstar userbox ==
::I filed an SPI on FK last week. We had the old ] story. ;)--] (]) 21:00, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
::: ] = ]''']'''] 21:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)


Hi DangerousPanda. I very much appreciate the ]. You're only missing one that I want to display; the Stub Barnstar. Any chance you can make that one? I'd be happy to provide a review of something or help you with some project in return for making it. Let me know. Cheers. ] (]) 11:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
::::What I based my decline on was the timing (the account was created shortly after FishingKing "retired"), the apparent familiarity with using Misplaced Pages, and the extremely similar signature (how many new users know how to modify their signature in the first place?). Now that I'm on my main account, I'll take a peek with checkuser to confirm. ] <sup>(]/]/])</sup> 00:25, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


== Sorry ==
:::::Very {{likely}} as far as CU goes - also, he's exclusively using proxies and mobile connections, probably in an attempt to avoid detection (note that he asked for checkuser on his talk page). What he fails to realize is that both are still placing him firmly in the same geographic area. ] <sup>(]/]/])</sup> 00:30, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


Montreal, Mar 15. 2015
Thanks. Both the above comments and my own further investigations have persuaded me that this is indeed a sockpuppet account. ] (]) 08:15, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


Hi
== Undelete Metaxas ==


I'm sorry I never apologized for my off-the-cuff remarks a few years back when the page i tried to make for Joaquin Lievano was taken down.
Actually, I'm sorry if I deleted anything. Are you sure I even did? Just responded to notification. Never touched anything on restored page. So, to answer your question: no I am not a dick, not trying, or even wanting, to be one. I do want Metaxas article deleted unless it is not just advertising, recognises that M is not a reliable source on Bonhoeffer, and that WP is written from a neutral point of view. I am bringing this forward. Also bringing forward complaint about harassment (your last message) and the administrator who simply checked "done" without recognising the fact that the major complaint against the M article was advertising/non-neutral point of view, as substantiated by M Talk. All the best. Will see you in AFD. ] (]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added 00:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I'm doing so now.
== Requested move of ] ==


Cheers
There is currently a discussion on moving the article ] to ]. You are being notified since you participated in a previous discussion on this topic. Please join the discussion ] if you are interested. ] (]) 02:24, 27 June 2012 (UTC)


Nick (Nicholas Robinson, a.k.a. tonbo0422) <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
== Block evasion at SPI ==


== ] ==
Hello Bwilkins, you may want to review ] since you blocked the master. Cheers,<br/><span style="text-shadow:#294 0.1em 0.1em 0.3em; class=texhtml">]</span> 18:34, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
: Too obvious! Comment left; thanks for the heads up (]''']''']) 09:26, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


Hey, remember that ] for {{user5|Jimmy McDaniels}}? He's back as {{user5|104.12.136.213}} and violating the ban. ] (]) 02:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
== Second Account ==


== ] ==
Due to the large number ] I've been doing over the last few months, I'm considering creating an alternative account on Maintenance grounds per ]. Just wanted to get the opinion from a few administrators before proceeding, the last thing I want to happen is to be blocked. If you post a reply on your thoughts regarding the issue ] I would really appreciate it. Thanks &#9733;&#9734; ]&#9734;&#9733; 00:16, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
I have added you to this page since you haven't edited for a few months. If you ever return, remove your name from the list. ] (] / ]) 18:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
:Thanks for the advice & the name suggestions quite like the DuckIsJelly but sticking with the PeanutButter one. &#9733;&#9734; ]&#9734;&#9733; 11:09, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


== proliferation of the conflict == == Crimson Alberta Ferretti dress of Uma Thurman ==


Please userfy the talk page. I have added an additional three sources as of 2013 consensus has changed and these dress are notable per ]. Is it okay for me to restore without discussion given these changes or do you prefer DRV? ] <sup>]</sup> <sup>]</sup> 21:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
after hijacking the dhimmitude article user estlandia is now adding the discrimination bar to another article, . another user from the dhimmitude conflict, shrigley, is also involved . this pov-pushing and hounding is beginning to out of hand.--<small><span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;background:blue;">]</span></small> 00:23, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


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==Belated thanks==
Please restore into my user space. Sorry for confusion. The discussion in the AFD page was helpful, but I was away. ] (]) 15:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi,
: {{done}} ] (]''']''']) 09:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
I know it is late, but I never thanked you for your support on the aftermath of ] and
]. ] (]) 14:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


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Bruskom(User) is making vandalism on the article. Greater Armenia and Turkish Kurdistan shares same area historically. I dont know the aim of the users but this users doesn't want to be known this information. Also Encyclopædia Britannica informations are always removed by this users without any reason. Please, stop the vandalizm ] (]) 00:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC)


* Greater Armenia - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=-cBSdyVTYxbs8M%3A
== Calvin999 ==
* Kurdistan - https://www.google.com.tr/search?q=greater+armenia&biw=1920&bih=947&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio986KyNLJAhVBWxQKHQgxC0MQ_AUIBigB#tbm=isch&q=cia+kurdistan&imgrc=gSas0O3Q96I2hM%3A
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== Official page / website ==
Avanu asked me to look at this and I had a question. As to the fact that he shouldn't be trying to edit by proxy, I completely agree with that, a blocked editor shouldn't be editing, even by proxy. I also understand why that isn't obvious to the average editor but it looks like he stopped after he was warned, which is good. I see where you say that the talk page is only to be used for requesting unblocks, but I would strongly disagree, via WP:BLOCKING "''A blocked user can continue to access Misplaced Pages, but is unable to edit any page, except (in most cases) their own user talk page.''" without any stated limitations, which has been my experience here for many years. I'm assuming you agree with that and were just understating the use for some reason. I saw his last comment just before the block but didn't see anything I would normally associate with being talk page blockworthy there. Maybe there is something I'm missing? I don't have any background with the editor, so just have to go on what I see on the surface, compared to what I understand is the policy. ] - ] ] 21:22, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
: ] (]''']''']) 23:56, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
::Yeah, Calvin999/Aaron sucks at appealing blocks. You ever think this non-bureaucracy is a bit bureaucratic? Happy 1st. -- ] (]) 00:14, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
::: The intent of a block is to protect the project and prevent repeat offenders. Are you convinced that Calvin won't re-offend? I'm not even sure he knows why he was blocked yet. (]''']''']) 09:15, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
::::I wasn't questioning the original block, just the talk page, as I hear a buffet of different opinions on when it is and isn't appropriate to block the talk page. I have my own opinions and they are probably somewhat different than yours, but I think that the lack of clarity in the policy is the issue. I've seen this issue come up often enough that I'm wondering if an RfC might be in the future. I can follow any policy that the community agrees to, even if I disagree with it, but it would be nice if it that one element was spelled out more clearly. ] - ] ] 18:22, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
::::: Well, we've always used ] as a measuring stick regarding talkpage locks. (]''']''']) 19:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::That seems to reinforce my belief that the talk page can be used for more than just unblock requests. "Abuse" (via WP:BLOCK) is in the eye of the beholder and I can allow for differences there, but I have to admit that when someone says "the talk page is for unblock requests only", that is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me, as I don't see anywhere it is limited to such. I'm funny that way. I want people blocked that need it, but I want to go the extra mile to be fair as well. ] - ] ] 21:09, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::: When his answers are all that he did nothing wrong, and his "friends" start piling on to say the same thing, it becomes admin abuse. Indeed, it would have actually been best to full-protect the entire page considering. If you had been privy to the e-mail exchange I had with Calvin/Aaron, you would have seen more of the same - and additional proof that the talkpage lock was quite justified (]''']''']) 14:14, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
::::::::Ah, email. It doesn't require a lot of imagination to get to that point then. I trust your word on this, and hopefully you take no offense for my asking as it looked a little thin on the surface. ] - ] ] 18:12, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


You have messaged me about the changes I made to some pages as official pages / website of some indian celebrities with the reason "I didn't edit links nor is it my website. The website belongs to Shammi Kapoor who heads the kapoor family. The added links were back to his site which represents the entire family site. The links were added on the pages of the family members of the website."
== Irvi Hyka ==


I have authentication letters from all the four celebrities who have assignment me as their technical person to handle their websites and social media. I need to make this immediate changes as soon as possible. Please revert of how to do it and how can I send you those authorisation letters on a non-public forum. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Yesterday Irvi Hyka restored content that I had previously removed . He was then reverted by another user , and today an IP reverted back to Irvi Hyka's version . The IP is in fact Irvi Hyka editing unlogged, as can be seen from its contribs . ] is arguably Irvi Hyka's favorite article and the 80.78 IP reverts another IP editor that had previously reverted one of Irvi Hyka's edits . In both cases there are two reverts within 24 hours, thus he is editing unlogged so as to get around the 1RR restriction. ] (]) 19:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
: Evidence is overly-compelling. Thanks, and sorry to have to deal with it that way (]''']''']) 09:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)


== Official page / website ==
== Nomination of ] for deletion ==


The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:41, 20 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)</span></small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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:{{u|Thefinalmiracle}}, DangerousPanda left Misplaced Pages two years ago. Could I be of any help to you? ]] 15:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
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Ok, wrong version, but -- is this the appropriate reward for refusing to discuss and editwarring? Since the IP won't discuss it and thinks we are saying horrible things about his family, and made those 'formal cease and desist' edits, it seems wrong in all sorts of ways to leave a version with OR, use of raw data, etc. as our official version for a month. ] (]) 20:58, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
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:Ooops, I'm an idiot, thought it was full protection. I should have known you wouldn't do that. ] (]) 21:10, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
] has closed. The ] include:
:: Nice self-] there :-) I think I also reverted to a pre-IP version (or at least the most recent one) ... which again was likely the ]. But, as you noted ... you ''can'' fix it :-) (]''']''']) 21:22, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
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Dear B, I would have gone to Kudpung but he's away most of the week. This is about this thread here: which you commented on. Anyway, five days later, Tru commented on my talkpage; I copied it back onto his, in the relevant section. I had written out my reply and, before posting it, was checking random contributions of his (to get a fuller pic of his Eng Lang abilities) when I came across this essay he'd done, right after commenting to me: . I think it can be seen Kudpung and I were only trying to help the bloke.... Anyway, I replied with what I'd written before seeing this, and then just added a little PS letting him know I've seen the little epistle. Am seriously cross and rather hurt, really. May I leave it with you to decide if anything ought to be done? ta, ] (]) 14:51, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
is happening in Montreal, during 9–13 August. If you plan to attend, or give a talk, ]!
: Well, we can only help people as much as we can. In the long run, ]. Although I agree with TPM that we need ''some'' patience, there's a limit. What's best in a cooperative project is that if they edit something with some actually useful info yet ''really'' f-up the grammer - '''don't revert''', ''fix''. That way the editor's key point is included, we just tidy it up a little. I am a little taken aback by his belief that this is a US-English-centric project: most of my writing is in Canadian English :-) However, it's his ''impression'' and he's allowed to ''feel'' that - our role is to gently prove him wrong and bring him along on the journey (]''']''']) 16:09, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
:: I have made a mistake. I would have thought that ] and "Writings that violate one or more Misplaced Pages policies, such as spam, '''personal attacks''', copyright violations, or what Misplaced Pages is not" would apply. Even a cursory glance of this user's contributions shows more than a grammar problem : ] (deliberately inserting false info in a sports score) for example. I should not have bothered, because it must be your involvement in that thread that is inhibiting your willingness to do anything but offer absurd platitudes. Tis funny how you were onto this guy last week but now he's a special snowflake allowed to spread his ''impressions'' where and how he pleases. ] (]) 17:42, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
::: You come here and I provide an honest answer, now you're saying I'm giving ''platitudes''? My pholosophy of this project is ]. If you want to SHOW me valid, proven violations of ] in his essay, then show it to me now and I'll deal with it. I see no copyvios, nothing that violates even ]. Again, show me violations ... (]''']''']) 17:57, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


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Bwilkins, I gather this remark is an attempt at humour. Well it is not amusing. That section was introduced by me, I was reporting an editor for unilaterally moving ]. There is no mention of ] and the 1RR anywhere in that piece, only ARBMAC cropping up here and there. I did not click the link because its main space appearance coupled with the scenario whereby I was seeking disciplinary measures against an antagonist editor meant that this was something remote from my interests. When I visit those pages, I scan down the list at what has been said and I either post a new comment or I head off. My actions were not impugned in that thread and therefore there was no requirement for me to open every link, furthermore, you were addressing two other users when you introduced the part. For what it is worth, yes I did have a quick look at ARBMAC but this is not something that sticks in one's mind. And when you do remember it, what do you think of? Macedonia - because it forms a part of the title. I know the conditions of that policy now and that is what matters, but your insistence that I am being untruthful in that I knew all about ARBMAC and its far-reaching implications as well as the 1RR also mentioned on the talk page is wholly unfounded. All you have gleaned is the occasional thread in which I was involved which alluded to a policy I violated via its hidden backstreets and dark alleys. Now imagine a scenario with you in my position, it would be like searching for a needle in a haystack. Some users edit heavily on one or two topics. I edit largely on affairs close to the Balkans (subjects relating to former Yugoslavia and Bulgaria) but I have made contributions on 9,000 articles. I take interest in some sport, comedies, music, linguistics, international affairs away from the region; so I am not a ''Kosovo-only'' editor, it has dominated the past few days but if you look at the history of the articles and my own editing past, you'll see there are huge gaps whereby I haven't visited an ARBMAC-infested article for months at the time. '''Please''' demonstrate good faith as an admin and realise that an editor is not necessarily deceitful just because he has brushed past something. Perhaps I should have known better, it doesn't mean that in stealth I really did. The main concern is, '''I now know''' about the full scenario and I know how to handle things in future. ] ('''Евлекис''') (]) 17:48, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
: Not a joke. As you read in the most recent ANI report about you, awareness of the 1RR restriction is ''assumed'' when you were involved in similar situation. You were involved. You must have read the rest of the discussion regarding ARBMAC warnings. You're one of those who ''got one'' without needing to have it formally placed on your page (]''']''']) 17:59, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
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:::Yes I know that '''now'''. But I don't get the fuss, I never used the unawareness as part of a defence; I admitted my actions, and yes, when something is implemented, it can be ''presumed'' that relevant people know it. Whatever happens, can this now be an end to it. ] ('''Евлекис''') (]) 18:03, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
:::: No, you ''did'' use it: on ANI you said ''"I maintain that I was unaware and I have produced irrefutable evidence to support this - that being that no message of 1RR appears when you click "edit", only a message that the page is protected"''. You certainly have no need for a banner on an article to tell you that it is within the confines of Kosovo-related articles, broadly construed. That is purely a deceptive statement. (]''']''']) 19:44, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
:::::::I stated it because it was the truth, but I never said "let me off because I didn't know" - that's what I meant by not using it as a serious tool for defence. The thread was long and towards the later posts I accepted wrongdoing and that a block is possible, I was however warned and my name was added to the ARBMAC Hall of Fame and that was the outcome. Anyhow there is no point continuing this topic. I can't change people's thoughts and if you believe I was being dishonest then I am unable to change that. ] ('''Евлекис''') (]) 20:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)


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Hello. Could you please take a look again at 3RR, Doktorbuk, bearing in mind the discussion he started at ], where he has stated that he plans to go to ] and remove redlinks to MPs - undoing hours of my work? Please help me. ] (]) 18:02, 7 July 2012 (UTC) Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.<!-- Template:afd-notice --> ] (]) 17:18, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
: makes it look like he's restoring them ... is there an issue, you you're just afraid there ''may'' be one? (]''']''']) 19:25, 7 July 2012 (UTC)


== A barnstar for you! ==
He deleted these entries well '''after''' he'd agree with you not to do so (see ]), I'm glad he's thought better of it and restored them. I do feel there is still an ongoing problem - please see my user talk page and see if you agree. If not, then that's great, I'm taking it too personally becuase I've put in so many hours of work. But I do feel I need support to ensure he doesn't keep reverting me, jusging by his comments and attitude on my talk page. ] (]) 19:36, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
: Both EdJohnston and I have engaged him on his talkpage ... there should be no more issues (]''']''']) 19:37, 7 July 2012 (UTC)


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Thanks for your prompt response, hopefully he will respond soon. Best wishes, ] (]) 19:54, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
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|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Hi, In 2012 you tried to help me understand how Misplaced Pages works when I wanted to add a page for someone I felt was misrepresented in the Misplaced Pages pages. I've been away due to illness for sometime, but coming back I still wasn't clear. I have reviewed the notes you made for me at that time and also have had support from the WP community. I am going to keep adding pages when I can now, as am working with people who need the help (COI clearly declared!). I just wanted to say thank you for your patience and to let you know I appreciated the time you took to try to explain. I have only created one article so far, and it has needed help but the next one I have a better understanding I think, even though I think I may have moved it not reading the words tools for reviewers:) So sorry about that. But thanks again for your help. ] (]) 21:52, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
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== About ] ==
I'm afraid the issues have continued, although the user has looked for consensus, he has reverted my edits again without finding consensus. He is now deleting all redlinks to pre-18th century MPs. Can you please look over ]? Best wishes, ] (]) 08:24, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


How was there consensus for deletion? There was:
Since this was given a result, Doktorbuk has reverted my edits on ], ], ] and ]. These have been reverted (for now) by User:Avanu, and discussion has continued at my Talk page. Can you help? I have no intention of restoring my edits if he continues to edit war, not to create more red links to MPs, but I'm very frustrated, and would appreciate some advice and help. ] (]) 16:58, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
* 6 keeps, 4 of which were strong
* 6 deletes, 0 of which were strong
* 1 rename, 1 of which was strong
* 1 comment, 0 of which were strong
It seems like the page shouldn't have been deleted, due to no consensus.
By the way, I would support keeping it but renaming it to 2012–13 North American winter. ] I have no ideas for what to put here. ] 18:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|The Nth User}} I hope you do realize that 1) the deletion discussion was closed about 5 years ago, and contesting the deletion is pretty much useless at this point, and 2) Dangerous Panda hasn't edited Misplaced Pages since 2014. ]] 23:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
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]] has been ]. You are invited to comment on the discussion at ].<!--Template:Tfdnotice--> ''']''' (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 19:48, 7 March 2019 (UTC)


== ] and ] ==
: I'm not sure which block to hand out first ... you, or the good doktor (]''']''']) 17:39, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


Hello.
::I think they are both agreeing to be a bit more conservative in their edits for the time being. And it seems that we have two reasonably good discussions at Village Pump and Jimbo's page, so if they can both be patient, a clear consensus will form on this. -- ] (]) 18:06, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Can you help as I ask for reconsideration of the recreation of two previous deleted articles, that two players now play in the Paraguay División Intermedia, so as to be fully professional sports league on Wiki.
::: Consensus already exists - the no-longer-so-good-Doktor is going 180 degrees against it, and is indeed slow-edit-warring to get it done. The block I provided should have been longer, as I see no desire to act according to consensus, only on the ] that Doktor has already expressed (]''']''']) 18:23, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
Respectfully. ] (]) 18:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)


:{{u|Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro}}, Dangerous Panda has not edited Misplaced Pages in over 5 years. You may want to create the articles in Draft space - ] and ] and go through the ] process, especially given one of them was deleted after a discussion. <b>]</b> (]) 20:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
BWilkins, please let me know why you wonder if you should block me, so I can look at modifying my behaviour. I haven't been edit warring or reverting the Doktor's edits, so I thought I'd been doing the right things - sorry if I haven't been. I'm also sorry that in seeking to get this looked at, I added to the 3RR discussion, but also informed the 2 helpful admins who had looked into this previously. I wanted the previous discussion to be updated so the information was there, but as you and the other admin already had looked at this before, and I didn't know if you'd be following the 3RR discussion as it was kinda closed, I thought I should inform you also. If this caused you problems, I apologise, although I don't think the FFS, or any allusion to swear words, was really necessary, and this response upset me. Anyway, if you let me know why you feel that you don't know who to block first, then I can look at what I need to change, and I appreciate you taking the time to deal with these very frustrating episodes within Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 20:05, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
: What's frustrating is you re-opening closed reports, then copying the identical text to 2 other places. Very wrong (]''']''']) 20:11, 8 July 2012 (UTC)


== Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago ==
I'm sorry if it was wrong, but it was done in good faith - I haven't had much reason to be aware of how these things work. ] (]) 20:14, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
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== Wikipoodling ==
--] (]) 05:33, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
I hadn't seen ] until you mentioned it on ANI. Great term and appropriately applied in relation to Splash, Status, and the fan club.
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<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article ''']''' is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to ] or whether it should be ].
FYI, I commented on stuff you said ]. ] <small>(])</small> 16:29, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
: *grin* Feel free to help expand the Wikipoodling essay :-) I saw your comments on your talkpage ... sorry about the use of "cluelessness", but they certainly did not help diffuse that, and a ] is required (]''']''']) 16:38, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
::No, I certainly felt the word was applicable at the time of the conflict. The situation was pretty frustrating as there was a lot of misinformation being thrown around. It's unfortunate that the emotions within that clique are still so high.
::I'll think about how to expand that. It's really a perfect term. ] <small>(])</small> 16:45, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
::: Heh ..."Wiki-chihuahua-ing" was just too damned difficult to say/spell LOL (]''']''']) 16:50, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

== Draft ==

The entry proposed for ] is in ]. See also a reply on my Talk. Thanks, ] (]) 23:45, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

== Jaan and your wikilink to "TRUTH" ==

Unless I am mistaken, WP:MOS directs us to use the name of the sovereign country (at the time) for place names. As such, referring to Ostland or the Estonian SSR as someone's birthplace is as valid as listing "Lyon, Vichy France, 1941" as someone's encyclopedic birthplace.<p>
So, rather than Jaan professing his personal truth = I took that as your implication per your Wikilink, he was undoing (removing the Estonian SSR) the equivalent of my example of specifying "Vichy France" as the birth country for any Frenchman/Frenchwoman born in 1941 in Lyon.<p>
There is no subjective truth involved here over which dispute resolution is required. I hope you find the analogy helpful. While a ] of Russia is valid for the 19th century, an SSR of the Soviet Union is not valid for the 20th century. ]<small> ►]</small> 18:05, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


The article will be discussed at ] until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
== Bridge Boy & personal attacks ==


Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
Yet another admin has to warn him about personal attacks (). Time to act on this disruptive and time-wasting editor? --] (]) 18:47, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
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:My mistake, he's not an admin (but perhaps he should be!). My point still stands about continued disruption though. We are consuming so many cycles chasing and cleaning up after BB. Time to call it a day IMHO. --] (]) 19:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
:: I can't see why he was warned about personal attacks - and indeed, he was NOT. He was told it "borders" on one, which it really does not. (]''']''']) 19:41, 9 July 2012 (UTC)


== Assume good faith == == Draft: Vaibhav Maloo ==


Hello, do take a look at the notability factor now, of this page, a lot has changed. Thanks. You have protected this page. ] — ]
Just wanted to express my dissatisfaction with your reply to me on Rangoon11's talk page recently. You probably deal with a lot of crap as an admin, but that's no reason to disregard ]. Please try in future to be a little less hasty and a bit more conservative when it comes to accusations. ] (]) 14:46, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
:{{tps}} {{yo|Nuttyprofessor2016}} I don't have context for what you are asking, but I'm pretty sure you won't be getting a response from him. He's been off Misplaced Pages for 7 or 8 years. ] <small>(])</small> 01:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
: I was completely assuming good faith: I assumed you actually ''care'' about the requirement for consensus, and that you ''care'' that all parties must be a part of any discussion to obtain consensus, and that you ''care'' about the fact that even though you might not have a good history with someone that you are indeed required to communicate with them if it's for the betterment of the encyclopedia. If none of those apply to you, then you're right, my good faith was wrongly given (]''']''']) 20:36, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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Evidence submission closed for DangerousPanda arbitration case

Let's leave this here. One can recognize the legitimacy of ArbCom, but there's no human being who can recognize the legitimacy of this decision. Talk about incivility, abuse of power, a failure to investigate even a smidgen of the supposed evidence. However, trials and summary execution in absentia is the lowest of the low. the panda ₯’ 12:18, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Hi DP, the evidence submission for the case closed today, the drafting arbitrators are willing to grant a brief extension for you to rebut the evidence which has been submitted if you ask for it in a timely manner. However they intend that the case will progress on schedule. For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 08:18, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello DP. It might be in your interest to take the opportunity to respond. The evidence is significant though not open-and-shut. (The best organized summary is perhaps in the page at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda/Evidence/RFCU). The most significant thing (to me) is your over-the-top rhetoric in some cases, for instance here. Callanecc said that you can provide rebuttal. I assume this means you can make a response at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda/Evidence. I don't see much chance of progress unless you're willing to make a concession that some things you did weren't a good idea. Why not ask User:Callanecc what section to respond in. It would be hard to be an admin and not make *any* mistakes. You might also make some promise on how you intend to use your multiple accounts in the future. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 19:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
I haven't been involved in the case, or even really watching it, but I think it would certainly make sense for you to do what Ed suggests above. No one who has ever seriously considered being an admin, let alone anyone who has ever been one, honestly expects them to be perfect in all of their behavior. I have never gotten the impression that ArbCom tries to necessarily hold all admins to the standard of perfection. I have every reason to believe that any input you offer would be very seriously considered by the arbs and could very easily have a significant impact on their decision. John Carter (talk) 20:03, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
@Drmies: @EdJohnston: @John Carter: Oh, it has always been my intent to respond. However, even NE Ent - and Worm that Turned - knew that I was going to be away from Misplaced Pages for about a month before he filed his ArbCom case ... a little difficult to respond when I'm nowhere near a computer. Today's my first day back, and I've found a great number of surprises the panda ɛˢˡ” 17:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
    • FWIW, I think it would be s shame if ArbCom felt the need for drastic sanctions against you due to the absence of a response and clarification from you. IMO you're too good an admin for the project to lose you. (I believe that even if the Evidence section is closed, you can make your points in the Workshop.) BMK (talk) 02:30, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Why don't you all leave your thoughts in the Workshop? How many admin actions has DP done? Check the logs and count 'em. What percent of these actions have been criticised in the case? Is that an acceptable error rate? DP, are you so fed up with NE Ent hounding pursuing you that you are too nauseated worn down to respond? Does NE Ent have a history of hounding pursuing other administrators? These are all questions that should be addressed. I want to see both sides of this dispute presented effectively so there can be a fair result. Leaving the accusers to say whatever they like un-refuted is a mistake. Jehochman 04:13, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
    • Although NE Ent is, technically, an editor of Misplaced Pages, it has been a long time since he has been a contributor in any meaningful sense. He is, in fact, a free-rider, using Misplaced Pages as a debating club and a social experiment for his own political and philosophical concerns. I'm sure he believes that his behavior is useful to the project in some fashion, but we have far, far too many NE Ents around here, and would do well to redirect their energies into actually improving the encyclopedia; if that's not possible, they should be gotten rid of.

      One step towards redirecting them would be to start eliminating some of the large number of places which enable these folks to shirk actual editing in favor of social engineering. Another might be to institute some sort of quid pro quo whereby participation in those forums is dependent on a certain level of encyclopedia improvement.

      Certainly, what we should not be doing is rewarding the free-riders' lack of value to the project by taking them seriously when they unnecessarily cause problems for editors who actually contribute to the encyclopedia. When real contributors disagree with other real contributors, those are conflicts which deserve the energy and attention of the community to resolve; when free-riders like NE Ent are in conflict with real contributors, they should not expect to be given the time of day, which just encourages further shirking. BMK (talk) 05:58, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

      Funny rant! (No bias, for sure!) The arbcase is not yet closed, NE Ent is an involved party. So why not put your $ where your mouth is and go make a proposal for sanction ("they should be gotten rid of"), Mr. Big Stuff!? Ihardlythinkso (talk) 04:34, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

Your Arb Case

Hey DP - It looks like you're going to lose your mop. I wanted to say that regardless whether you have the mop or not, you're still a valued editor. I don't want to see you go over losing a flag. Perhaps you weren't ready for it, perhaps the Arbs got this wrong - in either sense, you're still needed here. Dusti 23:55, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Hell, yes. Speaking from experience here, it can be a lot easier to contribute to the encyclopedia in terms of content related matters without the bit than it is with it. Particularly with some of the new school programs and the access to databanks. I just today saw that there is actually going to be a class program related to the religion field beginning next month. Finally. That content, frankly, has been a bloody mess for years, and having some help in it will be wonderful. And the list of other school projects is a lot longer than I had thought. An experienced editor aware of the system can ultimately do a lot in those projects, or, even, just looking at the articles we don't yet have and helping build them.
Family issues can arise for everyone. Particularly if the family is close. And, honestly, this really is a particularly miserable time of year for anyone to bring anything to ArbCom.
Take off all the time for the holidays as you feel like. But I sincerely hope that you realize that in a lot of ways, particularly in directly content related matters, you can probably accomplish more without the bit than with it and having to do so many admin things. John Carter (talk) 00:10, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

It's not a requirement. But, would you refrain from using your 'alternate' account, at the case? GoodDay (talk) 17:12, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Also, signing your replies as "the panda" may confuse editors not "in the know". Like me. ```Buster Seven Talk 17:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Um, huh? My alternate account is for use when I'm not at home - because at home is the only secure place where I trust being logged into that admin account. When I am at work, or elsewhere, I log into my alternate account. I've already been accused of choosing to not participate in the case, are you therefore suggesting that I refrain from participating until I'm back at home? That seems counterproductive and counterintuitive, now that I'm actually available with Misplaced Pages actually being accessible to me! the panda ɛˢˡ” 17:39, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

TBH, I don't quite understand your reasoning. But, I'll just count that as a failing on my part & won't trouble you any further. GoodDay (talk) 14:52, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
  • DP, regarding what and how to comment on the proposed decision my suggestion would be that you start a new level two section and comment on each of the proposals piece by piece (may a level 3 section each or however you want to format it) within that level two section. I'll put a discussion box around it so that there won't be threaded discussion within it and you can focus on the commenting on the decision then reply to others in a sub/another section. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 12:50, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi DP, similar to Dusti, I hope you continue editing. In fact, I hope you regain your mop in due course. Your involvement with unblock requests will be missed. Kindest, PhilKnight (talk) 07:58, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

Hi DP. I'm a newbie and just learning how to communicate with other Wikipedians. I just want to wish you a happy end-of-year holiday (if you observe it) and thank you for approving my request to reverse my erroneous block. May 2015 be your best year ever! EdnaClyde (talk 05:14, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

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Misplaced Pages:Arbitration/Requests/Case/DangerousPanda closed

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedy has been enacted:

1.1) For his violations of the standards of conduct expected of administrators, DangerousPanda (talk · contribs) is desysopped. He may regain the tools at any time via a successful request for adminship.

For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 08:03, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, let me know when I actually get to participate in said case. the panda ₯’ 10:19, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
Merry Christmas! Lugnuts 11:04, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Hi DangerousPanda, this is just to inform you that I have removed administrator status from your main account and from 7SeriesBOT - the latter being in accordance with the bot policy. Now that's out the way, I hope you've been having a decent holiday season and I do wish you the best. Acalamari 12:07, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
    • Actually, in response to your rather obviously biased comment here, I can honestly say, as someone who has been sympathetic to your situation, that the thing that virtually no one but you can consider legitimate are your rather transparent misrepresentations of fact regarding your own ability to edit and contribute to the discussion in an appropriate way at the appropriate time. Your comments, I regret to say, make it even harder for me to see anyone else ever necessarily trusting you in your statements of opinion again. Unfortunately. John Carter (talk) 16:28, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
(removed from inside archived area) @John Carter: I cannot fathom that lack of good faith. My family does not do laptops, tablets, etc. I'd scan hotel receipts, train tickets, etc, but that would violate my privacy even more. I did not control the time my in-laws spent here - but, as the man of the house, it was my job to keep them "entertained" as per cultural patriarchy. Since culturally they don't celebrate Christmas, I could not even install outdoor lights, decorate, etc until after they were gone, so I had t odo that after they left. I had to chauffeur them everywhere, and they wanted to see as much of the country that their daughter/sister had adopted (and Canada is, after all, a big country), plus a whackload of side trips. There was no humanly-possible way for me to be online. Hell, I got to play Farmville for the first time in ages on Christmas Eve (we don't do much Facebook usually, since most of the family don't even have internet yet!) the panda ₯’ 20:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
So you had no access to WP/chance to reply from the date the case opened (19th Nov) until it closed?! Yet you appear online about 2hrs after the verdict was given to complain about it. Lugnuts 11:02, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
You'll want to recheck your timings. When I became available, I immediately began the process of replying to evidence, etc. Clear proof of my intent to participate the panda ₯’ 11:45, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Intent being the key word there. You then played the absentia card. Maybe all the users who thought you were a good editor would have lept to your defence? Oh, wait... Lugnuts 10:52, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
  • You had supported an indefinite block(when I was the subject), later on you had closed that report with a nice message and you had given me some tips. I still remember that encouragement. You were a very nice admin and your knowledge of policies was amazing. Hope you won't give up. Bladesmulti (talk) 07:20, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

I never really knew you, but as a fellow "abusive" ex-admin from another wiki, I'm all too familiar with what you're going through and I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. Best wishes for the future. ekips39 09:19, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Hey DP. I have mixed feelings about the decision. It was kind of inevitable, which makes the case look like a show trial. I'm sure the arbs were well-intentioned, but I don't think there was any realistic prospect of it going any other way. I don't think you were the terrible admin you were made out to be by some parties, but admins are vulnerable because the good work goes mostly unnoticed. You made a few bad judgements, and you didn't always handle things as well as you could have, so it's hard to disagree with the ultimate result but it is a shame, and I hope you'll stick around and continue to do good work without the bit. I'm available if you need an admin for something. A belated merry Christmas and happy new year. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:12, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
  • DP, Harry has hit the nail on the head and I echo all his thoughts entirely. Arbs are generally a good bunch and, if anything, they are often too lenient. When an admin gets called to book however, it's a different ball game and the Committee is under enormous pressure to demonstrate that justice will be done. It's a shame you just happened to be that scapegoat. Take care, --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:33, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Heather Morris (voice actress) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Heather Morris (voice actress) is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Heather Morris (voice actress) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. LADY LOTUSTALK 15:19, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Re creating page

I am musician from india,kerala.I created my wikipedia page years back.that deleted.Why it deleted ? i need to re create it now.what should i do ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanoop robert (talkcontribs) 05:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

I'd be bold and re-create it. DPanda doesn't come around much now, he's busy washing his socks. Lugnuts 19:28, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
Due to your conflict of interest you should NOT create or directly edit any article or content about yourself. If you think that you meet the minimum criteria for a stand alone article, you can request that someone make it for you. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 19:32, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Stub barnstar userbox

Hi DangerousPanda. I very much appreciate the barnstar user boxes you made. You're only missing one that I want to display; the Stub Barnstar. Any chance you can make that one? I'd be happy to provide a review of something or help you with some project in return for making it. Let me know. Cheers. Freikorp (talk) 11:59, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry

Montreal, Mar 15. 2015

Hi

I'm sorry I never apologized for my off-the-cuff remarks a few years back when the page i tried to make for Joaquin Lievano was taken down.

I'm doing so now.

Cheers

Nick (Nicholas Robinson, a.k.a. tonbo0422) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonbo0422 (talkcontribs) 16:48, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Jason Leopold

Hey, remember that topic ban for Jimmy McDaniels (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)? He's back as 104.12.136.213 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) and violating the ban. Skyerise (talk) 02:03, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

WP:Missing Wikipedians

I have added you to this page since you haven't edited for a few months. If you ever return, remove your name from the list. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Crimson Alberta Ferretti dress of Uma Thurman

Please userfy the talk page. I have added an additional three sources as of 2013 consensus has changed and these dress are notable per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Silver Giorgio Armani dress of Cate Blanchett. Is it okay for me to restore without discussion given these changes or do you prefer DRV? Valoem 21:11, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Invitation

I'd like to invite you to join the WikiProject R&B and Soul Music. We are currently on demand for new members, the project was dying, but with your help we can revive it and make it one of the best WikiProjects. Make me sure that you'll think about this and remember cooperative works can do amazing things. Regards Dfrr (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedians by degree

Hi, Category:Wikipedians by degree is a container cat (subcats only). Please consider a more specific subcat if you wish to categorize User:DangerousPanda. Thanks, Slivicon (talk) 18:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Gregaga

User:Gregaga, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/User:Gregaga and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Gregaga during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 12:16, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Belated thanks

Hi, I know it is late, but I never thanked you for your support on the aftermath of Criticism of Nortel and the Nortel deleted wikiproject. Ottawahitech (talk) 14:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!

Hi,
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Turkish Kurdistan

Hi, Bruskom(User) is making vandalism on the article. Greater Armenia and Turkish Kurdistan shares same area historically. I dont know the aim of the users but this users doesn't want to be known this information. Also Encyclopædia Britannica informations are always removed by this users without any reason. Please, stop the vandalizm Antmqr (talk) 00:38, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Greyhound-Syfa listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Greyhound-Syfa. Since you had some involvement with the Greyhound-Syfa redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Aoidh (talk) 09:10, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Official page / website

You have messaged me about the changes I made to some pages as official pages / website of some indian celebrities with the reason "I didn't edit links nor is it my website. The website belongs to Shammi Kapoor who heads the kapoor family. The added links were back to his site which represents the entire family site. The links were added on the pages of the family members of the website."

I have authentication letters from all the four celebrities who have assignment me as their technical person to handle their websites and social media. I need to make this immediate changes as soon as possible. Please revert of how to do it and how can I send you those authorisation letters on a non-public forum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talkcontribs) 17:21, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Official page / website

The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talkcontribs) 05:41, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Official page / website

The links I have edited are official sites even if they dont appear to be. i have authentication from the artists with the permission to make these changes and represent their social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thefinalmiracle (talkcontribs) 05:43, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Thefinalmiracle, DangerousPanda left Misplaced Pages two years ago. Could I be of any help to you? Zero 15:40, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Bots Newsletter, April 2017

Bots Newsletter, April 2017

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Since you've been inactive since 2014, I've removed you from the subscription list. Feel free to re-add yourself to the newsletter if you become active again though. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:38, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Pocomail for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pocomail is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Pocomail until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. FockeWulf FW 190 (talk) 17:18, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Hi, In 2012 you tried to help me understand how Misplaced Pages works when I wanted to add a page for someone I felt was misrepresented in the Misplaced Pages pages. I've been away due to illness for sometime, but coming back I still wasn't clear. I have reviewed the notes you made for me at that time and also have had support from the WP community. I am going to keep adding pages when I can now, as am working with people who need the help (COI clearly declared!). I just wanted to say thank you for your patience and to let you know I appreciated the time you took to try to explain. I have only created one article so far, and it has needed help but the next one I have a better understanding I think, even though I think I may have moved it not reading the words tools for reviewers:) So sorry about that. But thanks again for your help. Ackee123 (talk) 21:52, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

About your deletion of 2012-13 U.S. winter storm season

How was there consensus for deletion? There was:

  • 6 keeps, 4 of which were strong
  • 6 deletes, 0 of which were strong
  • 1 rename, 1 of which was strong
  • 1 comment, 0 of which were strong

It seems like the page shouldn't have been deleted, due to no consensus. By the way, I would support keeping it but renaming it to 2012–13 North American winter. The N User I have no ideas for what to put here. Care to differ or discuss? 18:53, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

@The Nth User: I hope you do realize that 1) the deletion discussion was closed about 5 years ago, and contesting the deletion is pretty much useless at this point, and 2) Dangerous Panda hasn't edited Misplaced Pages since 2014. SkyWarrior 23:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Unblock an

Template:Unblock an has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Zackmann (/What I been doing) 19:48, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Marcos Caballero and Lelo Sejean

Hello. Can you help as I ask for reconsideration of the recreation of two previous deleted articles, that two players now play in the Paraguay División Intermedia, so as to be fully professional sports league on Wiki. Respectfully. Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro (talk) 18:23, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Rojodiablcerrocerrocerro, Dangerous Panda has not edited Misplaced Pages in over 5 years. You may want to create the articles in Draft space - Draft:Marcos Caballero and Draft:Lelo Sejean and go through the WP:AFC process, especially given one of them was deleted after a discussion. Ravensfire (talk) 20:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome
Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:33, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Ontario Country Performer and Fan Association for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ontario Country Performer and Fan Association is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ontario Country Performer and Fan Association until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

JayJay 02:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft: Vaibhav Maloo

Hello, do take a look at the notability factor now, of this page, a lot has changed. Thanks. You have protected this page. User:DangerousPandaUser :Nuttyprofessor2016

(talk page stalker) @Nuttyprofessor2016: I don't have context for what you are asking, but I'm pretty sure you won't be getting a response from him. He's been off Misplaced Pages for 7 or 8 years. Toddst1 (talk) 01:43, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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