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Hello threre, regarding my edits on '''Al-Bukhari''' article, first of all i am not the one who started this editing war. hence i am not sure why you're reverting my changes. the matter of the fact is that the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. so what's the problem here? ] (]) 17:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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:@] You are the one who is at (or has actually crossed) the 3RR brightline. —''']''' (]) 18:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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::What about the article itself. you did not address this issue. Let me say it again: the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. and then ] comes and reverts my chances as if he is the authority on the subject. I am not stating my own opinions, i'm stating the opinions of scholars in my edits. and he keeps reverting them like someone with an agenda. ] (]) 20:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@] I am not convinced that any editor is acting in bad faith. To the extent that I am taking ''administrative action'' related to the article, I am not wading into the ''content discussions'' related to the article. Again, I reverted your edits to bring you out of violation of 3RR; I figured that was a better solution than blocking your account. Do you think I erred in that decision? —''']''' (]) 20:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


== Hello ==
Just wanted to say thanks for your help. I really appreciate every little bit of help I'm getting with regards to making this page accurate. Thanks again. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:04, 2 July 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


I am reverting the deleted articles because the guy who nominated them (who is the same person) has demonstrated a clesr bias against survivor pages and a lack of regard for winners and that their pages are meant to stay ] (]) 21:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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:@] The community feels otherwise, based on the respective discussions. See your talk page. —''']''' (]) 21:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Hello!
::"The community" you cant call a barley attened afd started by a guy with a bias against them doesnt coint as comminity ] (]) 21:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I am beginner in add articles. Yesterday you deleted 2 of my article - Elena Efimova, Nadejda Zaslavskaya. Is it possible to recover them?
:::Could you help me set some deletion reviews up? I have no idea how too ] (]) 14:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
I think that the reason is not correct (A7: Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject). Because these two people are very well known and respected in the field of Russian law. Articles written by professors of Moscow State University, they do not have false facts.What do I need to add them again?
::::@] What part of the ] instructions is unclear? —''']''' (]) 02:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Sorry for the mistakes, I do not know much English.
Sincerely, Anna. ] (]) 14:55, 4 July 2013 (UTC)


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Thanks for your time on my article regarding Jordan Older. I can promise you it is all 100% factual and honest. How can I properly upload the image so it won't get deleted? ] (]) 03:04, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
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:::: Thanks! I'll see what I can do. Then can I undelete it or do I have to re-upload it? I don't want to bother you too much, but I read your comment about the use of bold. I'm reading http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style and it's quite long. Can you give me some quick tips on what to do so you can remove the "cleanup" warning from the article? Should I just remove all the bold in the article except for his name? I like to use the bold to make some of the main points stand out. Let me know if its not too much trouble. You have been very helpful. Thanks again! ] (]) 03:43, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

== Derek Acorah ==

Hi - I note your removal of my edit to the Derek Acorah Misplaced Pages page. I have not removed the item of controversy but have shortened it somewhat. My reason for doing this is that the ONE occasion where the above has been accused of fakery it is shrouded with intrigue. The facts surrounding the accusation are covered by a legal contractual confidentiality agreement and so Mr. Acorah has never been able to answer these accusations himself. Most Haunted was a heavily edited entertainment programme. Ciaran O'Keeffe was not the person who devised the alleged "test" (as confirmed by Yvette Fielding in this months "Haunted" digital magazine) but it was the work of another person. It was common for people to be scripted during the making of the programme even though this fact was not known to the viewing public. Mr. Acorah was merely following instructions but of course this fact was used against him when he gave in his notice to Living Television 12 months prior to his actual leaving of the programme. This matter took place eight years ago and has been used constantly by the Most Haunted programme makers in an effort to ruin his career. Although the fact cannot be taken away, I think short mention rather than extended coverage should be used on Misplaced Pages especially in the light of the current legal climate. Mr. Acorah conducts theatre demonstrations on more than 100 occasions each year and has done for over 20 years. He has made numerous television programmes with different productions companies. Never once has anybody ever accused him of cheating. This is one isolated incident where people are still determined after all this time to attempt to ruin him. It is no coincidence that since Mr. Acorah's leaving of the Most Haunted programme in 2005 the viewing figures dropped dramatically and continued to do so until the programme's demise almost three years ago.

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C.Fred,

I've supplied 3 or 4 reputable, 3rd party references proving notability according to Association Football notability.

One should be enough right?

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- reference 7 lists the USL Pro Soccer League (USL 1 or 2) where the subject played 4 games in 2003, these are not the biggest leagues in the USA but they are listed as fully professional at

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues

*2))- reference 1 lists 3 teams in the Paulista Serie A and 1 team in the Brazilian Serie A, these are THE biggest leagues in Brazil and are listed as fully professional at

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues

*3)) - reference 3 lists that the subject played professionally in Brazil and Europe and so much so that he is able to orchestrate player transfers of local kids into the German Bundesliga


*4)) the official Sao Paulo FC fan site/blog from 1999 lists the same 3 teams as the Futebol Interior feature article, which I found on the first page of Futebol Interior, it would be hard to fake exactly matching facts between an article in 1999 and one in 2013, showing that the player played in the big leagues in Brazil, correct?

- reference 1 lists 3 teams in the Paulista Serie A and 1 team in the Brazilian Serie A, these are THE biggest leagues in Brazil and are listed as fully professional at

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues

- it also lists him as playing along site Sao Paulo FC star defender in Wilson


I've also read that the subject has been subject to a hostile take over of his film festival so I think that this may be the reason for the high amount of attention for a notable but not super famous soccer player. It may be, not saying that it is, an attempt to smear his reputation by those who attempted the hostile takeover.

I found this press release:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/02/27/idUS120964+27-Feb-2009+PRN20090227

And this article, both outlining the hostile conflict with another group trying to take over his film festival business:
http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story/detail/will_the_real_ventura_film_festival_please_stand_up/7035/

For this reason I think that my article should have special consideration and be protected, if there is a feature for that on Misplaced Pages, or else these "flames" will continue forever. They have already been going on since 2007, which is about the time that the hostile takeover attempt started, according to the press release and reports.

My other logic for thinking these "flames" as frivilous is that there are literally thousands of other less notable, far less notable, American soccer players with existing articles on Misplaced Pages who have played in lower leagues, never played in the big leagues in Brazil, never went to Team USA training camp, etc.... just far less notable, and far less attention/contention. I think that by definition, the high attention to my article proves that the subject is famous and notable OR the recipient of a corporate smear campaign (or somehting elese?)

Another point I want to make is that it's not just the achievments of the subject in soccer, its the time when he did it. He started playing in Europe in 1993 and Brazil in 1994 when literally almost no Americans were doing it. There were probably less than 5 Americans starting for teams in 1993 in Europe. He's a true pioneer and notable for this reason. But you might have to be a soccer fan to understand this.

The subject should also be notable based on having founded and directed the largest film festival in Ventura County hosting Academy Award winning stars, but I want this to be a secondary emphasis. The fact that he played soccer professionally in Europe and Brazil and the USA AND does the film festival is rare and special in itself and is proven by the many feature articles like the one in Surfe Magazine and the VC Star.

I'm just trying to make sense of all this and maybe you can help. Thanks again for the Misplaced Pages ettiquite tips and mini-lessons on things like my signature. I would never have learned that without your help!

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::::::::::::::::::::::::::Also on the subject's Facebook you can read old newspaper clippings listing other 1st division teams in other countries in Europe and other teams in Brazil and other international tournaments as well as other USL teams. I've been able to get them listed under the same license that you recommended. You can take a look at https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151768592107813.1073741827.546612812&type=1&l=c2eefe3921 under the oldies photo album. They may not be usable as a reference but they may satisfy your curiousity as to if the subject is legitimate. You can also see pictures of the subject with Pele and with David Beckham on his Facebook page. '''] (]) 05:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC)'''



:* '''NOTE''' this page was tampered with and changed today or yesterday and changes so that my links above don't go directly to the USL Pro Leagues anymore, but the USL Pro Leagues and the Brazil leagues, in which the subject is proven to have played, are still listed as fully professional.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Football/Fully_professional_leagues#Defunct_Leagues


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Regarding Al-Bukhari.

Hello threre, regarding my edits on Al-Bukhari article, first of all i am not the one who started this editing war. hence i am not sure why you're reverting my changes. the matter of the fact is that the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. so what's the problem here? Bakkouz (talk) 17:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@Bakkouz You are the one who is at (or has actually crossed) the 3RR brightline. —C.Fred (talk) 18:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
What about the article itself. you did not address this issue. Let me say it again: the ancestry of al-bukhari is not agreed upon by Muslim scholars, neither early ones nor contemporary. and there are three opinions on the matter and historians have differed widely on the subject. I have re-written the article to reflect all points of view objectively and without bias. and then User:شاه عباس comes and reverts my chances as if he is the authority on the subject. I am not stating my own opinions, i'm stating the opinions of scholars in my edits. and he keeps reverting them like someone with an agenda. Bakkouz (talk) 20:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
@Bakkouz I am not convinced that any editor is acting in bad faith. To the extent that I am taking administrative action related to the article, I am not wading into the content discussions related to the article. Again, I reverted your edits to bring you out of violation of 3RR; I figured that was a better solution than blocking your account. Do you think I erred in that decision? —C.Fred (talk) 20:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello

I am reverting the deleted articles because the guy who nominated them (who is the same person) has demonstrated a clesr bias against survivor pages and a lack of regard for winners and that their pages are meant to stay Wwew345t (talk) 21:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

@Wwew345t The community feels otherwise, based on the respective discussions. See your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 21:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
"The community" you cant call a barley attened afd started by a guy with a bias against them doesnt coint as comminity Wwew345t (talk) 21:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Could you help me set some deletion reviews up? I have no idea how too Wwew345t (talk) 14:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Wwew345t What part of the WP:Deletion review instructions is unclear? —C.Fred (talk) 02:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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This is an English sweet so why do you feel American English should apply Sharnadd (talk) 12:53, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sharnadd Because the article is written in American English. —C.Fred (talk) 14:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hi, can I ask you why my change was cancelled by you? Slancio2 (talk) 17:23, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

@Slancio2 For obviously going against consensus and concealing relevant information from the article. —C.Fred (talk) 17:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
I understand your point, however, I believe the information I previously removed, and which was later reinserted by you, is quite irrelevant. There does not appear to be any connection between the police officer's skin colour and the homicide committed by him. Slancio2 (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
@Slancio2 This has been discussed before, and consensus is that it is rather relevant. —C.Fred (talk) 17:30, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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I recalled that you previously blocked this ip for edit warring and has resumed edit Warring using an different ip see Special:Contributions/74.87.19.246 Untamed1910 (talk) 01:13, 15 January 2025 (UTC)