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<center>Seriously pissed off right now. Will return to wikipedia once sanctions have been imposed against Banner from nominating my articles or redirects for deletion and coming into contact with me or he at least has had a severe talking to and this civil parish issue is settled at ]. This is the clearest example of wiki bullying due to his grievances with ] and ] that I've ever experienced. How can you assume good faith when somebody who holds a clear grudge repeatedly adds tags on articles, reverts, puts ] up for deletion, puts redirects up for deletion, and then nominates perfectly legitimate articles like ] for deletion?♦ ] 11:16, 4 March 2014 (UTC)</center>


== AGF please... == == January music ==
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Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw ] by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see ]. --] (]) 17:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


:Frohes neues Jahr! ♦ ] 19:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
In fact, is take as a personal attack and lack of good faith. The 101 links to disambiguation pages (what made me find this sloppy article) is something else. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 11:12, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
:: Danke! --] (]) 19:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:: ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:: My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --] (]) 09:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::No, but nobody "dies unexpectedly" at 39 without a valid reason! ♦ ] 09:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: Short illness. - Today a violinist from Turkey, ], whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --] (]) 21:53, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: ... and today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. --] (]) 18:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
:::: ] today who directed lasting performances --] (]) 21:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)


== Good article reassessment for ] ==
{{ping|The Banner}} I spent ages compiling that article yesterday. I'm steadily going through and dabbing them and sorting it out and have currently reached half way through Cork. I spent over an hour yesterday starting to dab them, it's going to take several more hours to fully dab them, nothing in comparison to what it will take to go through and cleanup the existing ones and start the missing articles. Calling it sloppy (a clear personal attack) and criticising me given the effort I made to get it up and running is mean spirited to say the least and the sort of comment which really makes me feel like walking out of here in disgust at times. I added the tags as I really think you'd have added them and I really didn't want that sort of negativity as I was in the middle of constructing the list.♦ ] 11:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 02:21, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
:I have been load and clear in my criticism of your civil parish approach. Spreading around a template with the same wrong links as the article is not really helpful. Did you not understand why I was critical about your approach? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 19:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::{{ping|The Banner}} Then why are the articles categorized as civil parishes still then? I understand your concerns that you think they're no longer used but it makes little sense of have separate articles. Most articles on "villages" on wikipedia for Ireland say parish in it in most places and we have existing articles long established ones in fact which state civil parish on here and have the towns and villages template in it. If you're going to argue on this then you should see to it that ''all'' articles on civil parishes and towns in Ireland are separated. Any thoughts {{ping|Aymatth2}} and {{ping|Ww2censor}}? My feeling on this is that the parishes should be merged into the villages but in the lead have a sentence which reads "The village formed part of a historical civil parish of the same name but it is now deprecated" or something.♦ ] 19:34, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Because I don't want a silly edit war what will be coming my way when I clean up the thrash. This mess just gives me grieve and headaches, so I leave it to you, the main (but not sole) creator of this mess, to clean it up. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 19:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::::Irish settlements are already generally trash and some are in a diabolical state. Most of them badly need work. I began going through the County Clare places template adding sources and cleaning up. Some of the articles, which are on your watchlist like ] etc, are almost as bad as some of our Pakistani articles. You haven't bothered to do do the cleanup and remove the adverts which exist in them. My intention was to begin some sort of clean up and try to install some sort of coherent order and consistency. As long as you're around being a belligerent prick nothing is going to get done and Irish places on wikipedia will continue to be stale and suck.♦ ] 19:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::::::Okay, I understand your message that you have no real arguments so you have to resort to personal attacks. Thank you for being so clear in that. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 20:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

I made a major effort with you Banner but the fact is that you're not a decent fellow, otherwise you'd not still hold this grudge you've got. Ww2 censor, would you like to see sort of improvement on Irish towns and missing articles started like ] or like Banner do you also assume bad faith and think I'm causing a mess? I'm not going put up with this sort of hostility. Articles on your watchlist which you edited even back in 2011 until very recently had infesting it. Why didn't you clean it up? And I'm causing more of a mess than that?♦ ] 19:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:Too bad you mix up a protestant parish with a RC parish and a civil parish. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 20:29, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
] has an '''infobox settlement''' box in it and also a places template with villages. If it was intended as purely a Roman Catholic parish article it would have neither and would have some sort of religious box. Unless the RC parish is vastly different from the civil parish then it makes no sense to split them. The article should probably be expanded to cover the village and civil and then have a paragraph in it on the RC parish if it is different.♦ ] 20:32, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::yep, I predicted that you would go to war of it. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 20:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::::You turn up and make out that I'm causing some sort of huge mess, what sort of reaction did you expect? If you spent your time cleaning up Irish villages and sourcing them probably and cleaning up the existing confusion between villages and parishes instead of creating stubs on restaurants I wouldn't have to do it would I?♦ ] 20:46, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::::I expect that you come with real arguments and stay polite. Don't try to decide what I have to do on Misplaced Pages. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 20:48, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

You've ignored most of the mess which currently exists, even though you live in Ireland and frequently revert people on the articles. You're in no position either to tell me to stop creating a mess or moaning at the effort I'm making.♦ ] 20:54, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
{{ping|SchroCat}} and {{ping|Cassianto}}

I was reverted with this edit summary in which he says These sources
and state that it at least ''was'' a civil parish. On wikipedia we go by what reliable source state, not what somebody says by word of mouth even if affiliated with it right? If the article is intended to be on a religious parish, the infobox settlement and places template should be removed and you should explicitly state and link ] in the article.♦ ] 20:51, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:I am very interested in your article ]... <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 20:55, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::If the article is intended purely as a religious article like a Diocese then the infobox settlement and place box should be removed and a new article on the village and civil parish started. Either way we need a broader (and more civilized) discussion involving the rest of the Irish project to decide on what to do about villages vs civil parishes. The fact is that most articles clearly intended on villages and towns mention it is also a civil parish and is treated as both. Either this is completely overhauled for Ireland or you leave me to continue my work on it.♦ ] 20:59, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::The infobox clearly states that it is about a parish. Don't blame me for people combining all types of infoboxes. You are very welcome to write an article about the civil parish and, as you call it, the village Kilmurry Ibrickane. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 21:26, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

:One last try... According to your own source: ''The civil parish was the fundamental administrative unit within each county. These parishes were based on the medieval Christian parishes, adapted by the English administration and the Protestant Church of Ireland. Government and Church of Ireland records between the 17th and early 20th centuries utilized these territorial units. They are not currently used as administrative units. Catholic parishes differ from civil parishes and are generally bigger in size. The Catholic parish system is still evolving and forms the basis for much of Ireland's social, educational and sporting activities. Catholic Parish Registers of birth, marriage and death are organised by Catholic parish.''
:At present, all people in Kilmurry Ibrickane (and some other west-Clare parishes) have to register their marriage at the office of the ] in ], at least three months in advance of the actual marriage date. They can decide themselves where they keep the actual ceremony, either a RC ceremony in one of the three RC churches in the parish, a Protestant ceremony in the church near ] (part of the Church of Ireland parish Drumcliffe) or a civil in an approved location (mostly the two hotels in ]. The same applies to deaths and births, they are also registered in Ennistymon.
:I am unaware of a protestant parish of Kilmurry Ibrickane. Most likely the area was combined with protestant parish of Kilfarboy (although a namesake, not identical to the RC parish or civil parish). I am also not aware of any protestant church in the present territory of Kilmurry Ibrickane.
:In the (short) time in 2011 that I was working at the RC parish office of Kilmurry Ibrickane I was only keeping the books of the RC weddings, baptisms and deaths. I did not register civil or protestant facts nor births. Although the Church Records are official records, approved by the Civil Registration Service, the parish office is not a part of the Civil Registration Service nor a civil parish. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 21:22, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

== Kilmurry Ibrickane (village) listed at ] ==
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It's not right there's a settlement of that name. Just when I thought you were beginning to accept civil parish and village you go and do this. I've had enough. ] should cover the village and civil parish and the hatnote at the top to the religious parish of the same name. Dabbing it is totally unnecessary, if there isn't a hamlet or village of that name why is it labelled as such on google maps?♦ ] 22:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:First, my paper map (Discovery series, nr. 57) calls it Kilmurry. Secondly, it is not a village, but a mere hamlet. Thirdly, that church that gave the parish its name is slightly more to the north. Fourthly, the main village of the parish is ]. Sorry, but don't you think that the details should be correct? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 22:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
::Hamlet rather than a village, it doesn't make any difference. The article on the settlement however small should be in with the article on the civil parish. I think it's time we took this to ] for discussion.♦ ] 22:43, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:::I advice you to use this wording, already present in the original Kilmurry Ibrickane article: ''The parish derives its name from the tiny settlement of Kilmurry in the Barony Ibrickane, the location of the church before ].<ref></ref>'' <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 22:47, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
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We can't have three different articles though Kilmurry, Kilmurry Ibrickane, and Kilmurry Ibrickane (Roman Catholic parish). It makes sense to at least have hamlet even if just called Kilmurry and mention the civil parish within it Kilmurray Ibrickane rather than all individually. I understand the difference between a Roman Catholic parish and a civil parish and agree that if its some sort of religious division like a diocese or sub division of that they should probably be distinguished. There must be some decent solution on this. The problem for me mainly is that if the religious parish is identical to the civil parish and there's not really much to say on either, or on the principal village of the same name it makes more sense to have it all consolidated in one article. I've just trying to install some sort of order and consistency into articles. We need to come to a solution on this as it's not fair to keep turning up here and bad mouthing what I'm doing when I'm trying to do just the opposite.♦ ] 23:04, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
:That is why I did the text suggestion. In my opinion Kilmurry is just too small to warrant an own article. By now, it consists of a ruined church, two graveyards (on either side of the road), a pub and a few farms. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 23:18, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
It does look like a townland sort of rural place on google maps I must say. But by default I think Kilmurray/Killmurrya Ibrickane should be the article on the civil parish/hamlet and the hat note to the religious parish at the top.♦ ] 07:27, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
::The actual townland in which you find Kilmurry is Shandrum. It is not even a townland on it own. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 11:46, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

:Is it OK if the redirect for discussion, the discussion is held at the RfD page? It's a bit confusing if you list something there then continue a discussion on a user talk page and not on either (any) of the article's own talk pages. ] (]) 08:44, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Are you talking to Banner? I didn't list it of course!♦ ] 08:48, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

:Haha, I know you didn't. It's just getting a bit confusing with all the goings-on. I know you are a slave-driver for getting people to translate stuff for you etc but you don't jump immediately to process for what should be sorted out equitably between two good faith editors. ] (]) 09:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

== Sorry, Bieber's RfC again ==

Hello Dr. Blofeld, sorry to bother you again about Bieber. Unfortunately, only 5 of the 16 editors who posted their opinion in the '''General survey''' part of Bieber's RfC posted again in ]. Progress simply isn't made - could you help to post in the ] to move it forward? Thank you very much. <span style="border:2px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span> (] &#124; ]) 08:49, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
:Hi, thanks for your immediate input Dr. Blofeld! However, you posted in the '''General survey''' - which you've already done so previously some time ago. I was hoping that you would post in the '''Responses to above points''' ]. Thank you! <span style="border:2px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span> (] &#124; ]) 09:25, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

== Rfd for Kilmurray/Kilmurray ==

I see your bind and that is why I bunged in. The difficulty is ''for the purpose of RfD'' it is difficult to discuss something when the articles are moving about (the hatnote was on the RC one when I first looked and gone again later), so my or any other editors' comments are kinda immediately irrelevant if the article keeps changing (it is not as if there are the permIDs on the articles at the nominations at XfD).

I live in Hungary now well am starting to! So I have been improving some Hungary articles etc as I have been mooching about, not much but you know ] etc. ] (]) 08:56, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Nice, hope you're enjoying living in Hungary! Hope Monk is well!♦ ]
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== No grave dancing ==

It is sad to see this page censored. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 00:06, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
:you know what, I just wrote a long paragraph explaining why you're in the wrong and why Dr. Blofeld should have stayed but I have lost it all because of a f**king edit conflict. '''☠''' ]] '''☠''' 00:08, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
:I was going to re write my paragraph but I'm not risking it now. '''☠''' ]] '''☠''' 00:10, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
:banner, just leave this page alone... Please... '''☠''' ]] '''☠''' 00:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
::Why should I? I am not grave dancing but you guys are ''censoring''. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 01:15, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
{{ping|The Banner}} You have to stop this... Dr. Blofeld is one of Misplaced Pages's most valued members and losing him because of something like this would mean a huge loss for the whole project. ], a user removed your comment on top of his talk page because it's nothing but provocative and aggravating... Dr. Blofeld's intentions on the Irish parishes were good and his actions were justified - it does not denote ownership. Because of this all we can do now it hope that he comes back soon and all of this just blows over. '''☠''' ]] '''☠''' 17:10, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
:::Just stop blaming me for his behaviour. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">]&nbsp;]</span> 19:15, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
::::No smoke without fire. ]] 19:19, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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== Ways to improve Chitra Dewi ==

Hi, I'm MrNiceGuy1113. Dr. Blofeld, thanks for creating ]!

I've just tagged the page, using our ] tools, as having some issues to fix. Hi, it'd greatly help if the actress's bio and film career in brief are added. Best regards, (] (]) 05:58, 5 March 2014 (UTC))

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:I have to say that advising someone with 20+ FAs under their belt to visit the Teahouse tickled my sense of humour :-D ] ] ] 09:14, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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:It's terrible what happened. Some users get an adrenaline rush just by making life miserable for others. This is a clear case of sour grapes for Banner. Yes, the support for Blofeld is "heartwarming", and that's how it should be! --]&nbsp;] 13:42, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
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== Intellectually YOU are bigger than him ==

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Latest revision as of 02:21, 17 January 2025

January music

story · music · places

Happy new year 2025, opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). - I saw a lovely opera by Rimsky-Korsakov, - see here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Frohes neues Jahr! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:15, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Danke! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Liebster Immanuel, Herzog der Frommen, BWV 123, my story today 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. Dada Masilo will be my story tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
No, but nobody "dies unexpectedly" at 39 without a valid reason! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:03, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Short illness. - Today a violinist from Turkey, Ayla Erduran, whom you can watch playing Schubert chamber music --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
... and today, pictured on the Main page, Tosca, in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author Brian Boulton. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
Otto Schenk today who directed lasting performances --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Varanasi

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