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| == Happy New Year == | |||
| ==Use of Sir prefix in article title== | |||
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| Hi Barney, jsut a polite request, in future could you refrain from using the title Sir (or Dame for that matter) in the title of new article creations. I have moved some of the articles you created previously such as Sir Robert McLean to ]. The only exception to the rule is Baronets, where it is generally correct to include their knighthood in the article title, as you correcly did with ]. Thanks ] (]) 14:41, 18 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| : {{user|Flaming Ferrari}} - thanks for your message. I commit to using the correct name, (i.e. only the full name) in future. ] (]) 12:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| In case it becomes relevant in future, I feel I should note that {{user|Flaming Ferrari}}'s advice is not consistent with the guidelines described at ]. Articles about knights and baronets should in most cases be titled simply with the subject's name, without "Sir" (or "Dame") at the beginning or "Nth Baronet" at the end. The exception is when that would be ambiguous with somebody else who has the same name but is not a knight/baronet, in which case the prefix (and suffix, for a baronet) may be added for disambiguation. (I have paraphrased and abridged the guidelines somewhat, so I recommend you to read them yourself and don't just take my word for it.) — ] (]) 02:28, 25 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :: Thanks {{user|Paul A}} - I would continue to only create pages with the correct title, but I've been infinetely clocked. ] (]) 17:51, 31 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| == WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.2 == | |||
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| == Winston S. Churchill == | |||
| | <span style="font-size: 110%;">Newsletter Nr 2 for ''' ]''' (and ] on Meta)</span> | |||
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| This is NOT repeat NOT just a variant of Churchill's name. | |||
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| It is very specifically his pen name - he adopted it to distinguish his books from those of the then much more famous (!) American novelist of the same name!!!!! | |||
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| : I do not dispute that. Unfortunately for you however, it is entirely irrelevant. ] (]) 20:45, 19 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| In order to improve communication between genealogy interested wikipedians, as well talking in chat mode about the potential new wiki, a new irc channel has been setup, and you are welcome to visit and try it out at: {{Channel|wikimedia-genealogy}} | |||
| ::See ]. The "S." occurs ONLY as a pen name - and is therefore only relevant at all in the context of the specific article dealing with Sir Winston ''as a writer''. It is not ''entirely'' irrelevant to the "main" article, but it is clear where the primary relevance lies. Sorry about the tiny mind remark - uncalled for, of course. --] (]) 21:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::: Getting angry above about it doesn't change the undeniable fact that it needs to go to the main subject. You've also broken ]. And I hate musicals, especially the one with the singing nuns. ] (]) 21:21, 19 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| At ] is discussed the possibility of creating a genealogy-related Wikimedia user group: please submit comments and suggestions, and whether you would like to be a member in such a group. Prime goal for the group is the creation of a new, free, genealogy wiki, but there is also a discussion weather we should ]? | |||
| ::::Your love (or otherwise) of musicals has, of course, precisely the same relevance to this argument as your (or even my) anger, or even which one of us broke ] first. ] is in this instance the "main article" - since the redirect can only refer to ''that'' subject and has nothing whatever to do with the "main subject" of the other article, which is (very properly) primarily about his political career. Is this worth asking for arbitration? --] (]) 21:44, 19 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::: Probably be better for you just to drop it. ] (]) 21:54, 19 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::::Reluctant to leave an error that reflects so badly on its perpetrator in place - so out of the purest kindness I am constrained to insist that the correct redirection remain when all the dust has settled. Unless an independent arbitrator deems otherwise, of course ... Actually, it would be better to have no redirect from Sir Winston's pen name at all (just delete the redirect altogether) than have it direct to an article (mostly) about his political career (a rather comprehensively unrelated subject). --] (]) | |||
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| I have formally asked for arbitration on this one. --] (]) 00:20, 23 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Oops - I don't dispute much, and I put my request for arbitration on the wrong page! On advice - I have redone this one to ]. I don't think this one had anything to do with your blocking - hope not, anyway. In this instance I am being at least as sarcastic as you - this (for me at least) is good-natured banter - my only dispute with you is the question of where this redirect page should point! --] (]) 23:06, 23 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *discuss on the ] how the project should be developed | |||
| :::I have followed the 30 arbitrator's ruling and relocated this redirect to the original place. Sorry - I'm quite often wrong, but not in this case. --] (]) 01:18, 28 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::Sorry to see you had to grab that brief window of opportunity to continue this edit war. I honestly thought better of you than that. Appreciate you feel passionately about this one, but could we have just ONE constructive argument on your side. He is simply NOT CALLED Winston S. Churchill anywhere but on the covers of his books. The "S" is not in fact a "middle initial" but part of his full surname (Spencer-Churchill), which again he never used in any other context. All you have said in reply is that this is not relevant - in what way is a pen name of an author not relevant to a discussion of his writings? Much MORE relevant - surely, than to a general discussion of his life, especially when certain aspects of that life are so very much more important. Anyway - if our "third opinion" had come out in YOUR support I'm sure that you would have been most indignant if I hadn't "accepted the verdict" - fair's fair. --] (]) 21:17, 28 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| : Thanks {{user|Soundofmusicals}} - it takes a very special level of incompetence to redirect a page away from its obvious target, violate 3RR, personally attack people, post an incoherent moan on the talk page and complain about "ew, lack of arguments" - when the contrasted shambling irrelevancies of your so-called arugment" contrasts with the elegant simplicity and undeniable truthfulness of '''having the redirect to the main article''' - yet it seems that you have plumbed these depths of utter stupidity. Now, since I can't edit at the moment having been infinitely blocked due to the bahaviour of yet more other idiots, I require that you please point the page back to its correct target. Thanks for your understanding. ] (]) 17:51, 31 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| : Thanks {{user|DangerousPanda}} - that's extremely useful. Can you please identify what exactly were the "personal attacks"? And which AFD was "disrupted"? In general I follow a policy of apologising for things that I've done wrong so I'd like to know. ] (]) 23:28, 23 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :: Oh hang on, I've found it. To clarify, {{user|Bearcat}} has now ''added to his lies by making false allegations at ]''. To clarify what happened, he wrote an AFD nomination that misrepresented the subject as only being a minor , and specifically mentioned the role of mayor. He made innuendo that the role of mayor was unimportant (which is technically true), but failed to mention that the gentleman was a long-time leader of the majority party on the council, and used inneundo to conflate the two unrelated. He also apparently omitted to conduct a ] search for sources because when such a search is performed a plethora of sources are to be found. When I politely pointed out this to him and gave him the opportunity to correct himself, he refused to do this, asserting things that are clearly not true to anyone with at least half a brain (that a leader of a party group is equally as important as a non-leader) and started to make personal allegations against me. He has now compounded his lies by writing further lies at ] which have led a productive and editor of good character being blocked. ] should have applied to the petty vindictive request of a liar and a troll. | |||
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| :: I stated it was my policy to apologise for things that I have done wrong. However, as I have done nothing wrong in this case, no apology will be forthcoming. ] (]) 23:44, 23 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::: If any editor believes that the subject of an article does not indeed warrant an article, they are very welcome to raise an AFD. If their investigation shows the subject to be "minor", then that's their educated opinion. That does NOT make them a liar, and troublemaker, or anything else...it's their reading of the citations. Referring to "anyone with half a brain", and referring further to lies (wholly unfounded), and changing this section header to what you have is an obvious continuation of your personal attacks, and I'll be extending your current block accordingly. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 23:59, 23 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| <div class="user-block"> ] You have been blocked from editing your talkpage due to abuse of the unblock process, continuing to attack editors, or other ]. You may still ] by using the ], but you should read our ] first. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 00:01, 24 August 2014 (UTC)</div> | |||
| :::Nope, I'm sorry, you're the one who's misrepresenting the matter. As I pointed out, ''repeatedly'', in response to your comments, ] does not give greater weight to the "leader of a political party" at the city council level than it does to other city councillors — "garden-variety councillor" or "party leader", the person still has to pass ] by virtue of the quality of sourcing that has actually been provided. Whatever you think about whether the position is more notable in ''principle'' or not than a "garden-variety city councillor", Misplaced Pages's ''inclusion criteria for politicians'' do not grant the party leader a greater presumption of notability than the garden-variety councillor, if the quality of sourcing is not there to get him past GNG. I did not assert anything about the level of power that the leader does or doesn't have within the council's internal structure — I provided a ''completely'' accurate assessment of ''Misplaced Pages'''s inclusion standards for local politicians (no matter what role they held, they still have to pass GNG for it) which wasn't even ''remotely'' the same thing as what ''you're'' claiming that I said. | |||
| :::Secondly, I said ''nothing'' in the entire discussion that was in any way an allegation or personal attack against you. The ''worst'' thing I said about you at any point was that you were arguing with a strawman instead of with what I was actually saying, which is not an actionable comment (and you threw the word "strawman" at me too, so if it were an actionable comment you'd still be blocked right alongside me anyway.) You, on the other hand, called me an outright liar, which you're simply not allowed to do. And if you're allowed to characterize yourself as a productive editor of good character, then I'm allowed to point out that I most certainly have a reputation as a productive editor of good character as well — I've been around here since 2003, and do ''not'' have any sort of reputation as being a liar or a troll or a dishonest editor. (I've never once, for example, accumulated a single behavioral block in that entire time, not even a ten-minute timeout. If I were half as bad an editor as you seem to think, I'd have been banned years ago — but in reality, I'm actually a pretty well-respected contributor who's ''never'' once in an entire decade had to be formally sanctioned or disciplined with anything more than a minor "hey, you screwed up here, so be more careful about this next time, okay?") | |||
| :::Thirdly, I most certainly ''did'' do enough ] to be aware that the volume of available sourcing out there is not as strong as you're claiming; there are a fair number of reliable sources which mention his ''name'' in passing, but I did ''not'' a find a lot of sources which were ''about'' him in a ''substantive'' way. And at least one other commenter in the AFD discussion has ''also'' pointed out that ''they'' didn't find much substantive sourcing on a Google search either. And as I also pointed out, I am Canadian, and do not have ''access'' to the resources necessary to do a really comprehensive database search of past British media coverage — I can ''only'' go by what comes up on Google, and what I saw on Google was a lot of sources that just namechecked him in passing as a ''former'' councillor, and ''not'' a lot that actually constituted ''substantive'' coverage of his career ''while'' he was in office. If you think there are enough sources out there to get him over GNG, you're certainly more than welcome to find them and add them to the article — I said, right from the start, that the article could be kept if the sourcing were improved — but you're not entitled to just namecall and insult anybody who happens to disagree with you about the ''current'' state of the article. | |||
| :::And finally, just for the record, I asked for ''nothing'' in the ANI post except for somebody to ''review'' the situation and make their ''own'' decision about who was or wasn't at fault. I'm ''sure'' I would have been blocked or at least warned if Panda had read the discussion and decided that I was the one at fault, but that's not what happened. ] (]) 00:44, 24 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :::: Thanks {{user|Bearcat}} - thanks to your efforst I've been lbocked from editnig for the past 4 days. Bet you feel proud of yourself. | |||
| :::: However, no, piling lies on top of further lies won't help your cause. You are clearly quite delusional, a calculating liar and should not be allowed to edit Misplaced Pages. | |||
| :::: A leader of a council is more important than a non-leader. This is an indisuptable fact that you choose to ignore mostly because you're a complete idiot. ] (]) 10:24, 28 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: Obviously I'm going to have to try this again: I said ''nothing'' at any point about whether a leader of a council was or wasn't more important than a non-leader in principle — I said that ''Misplaced Pages's inclusion rules for city councillors'' don't give the leader a greater entitlement to automatic inclusion ''in Misplaced Pages'' than the non-leader gets, and that ''regardless'' of whether the person is a leader or a non-leader of the council their entitlement to a Misplaced Pages article depends entirely on your ability to demonstrate that they have passed ] as an individual. Which is absolutely, unequivocally ''true'' as far as Misplaced Pages's inclusion policies go. | |||
| ::::: I never said anything about whether a leader of a council is more important than a non-leader is in ''principle'' — but ''Misplaced Pages's'' inclusion rules do not grant the leader a greater presumption of notability, in the ''absence'' of any substantive sourcing about him, than the non-leader gets. Leader or non-leader, a city councillor ''still'' has to pass GNG as an individual to qualify for an article on Misplaced Pages — and your point about the leader being more important in principle has ''no'' bearing on ''my'' entirely correct point, which was that ] do not grant the leader of a city council a greater entitlement than any other city councillor gets to keep a ''poorly sourced'' article. My point began and ended with a completely accurate statement of what ''Misplaced Pages's'' inclusion standards for politicians do and do not accept as sufficient notability to warrant a ''Misplaced Pages'' article — I never, not even once, said ''anything'' even ''approaching'' what ''you're'' claiming that I said. And the fact that you repeatedly refuse to see the ''huge'' difference between those two things suggests far more about ''you'' than it does about me. You're absolutely free to believe that our inclusion standards should be ''different'' than they are, on the basis that the leader of the council is more important than a regular councillor, and you're absolutely free to try to pursue a consensus to ''add'' that to the notability guidelines as an NPOL-satisfying claim of notability — but you're ''not'' entitled to claim that someone is "lying" about whether a politician passes NPOL or not, if their argument is based on NPOL in its ''actual'' current form instead of some alternate version that exists only on your own personal wish list. | |||
| ::::: And also, again, I did not ask for anything from ANI except for an uninvolved admin to ''review'' the situation and decide for ''themselves'' how to handle it. I did not ask for you to be blocked; Panda made that decision on their own after looking at the situation with their own eyes and deciding for ''themselves'' what the appropriate response was to the matter. So as unfortunate as this may be for you, it's not my fault either. ] (]) 01:12, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::: I've told you before, {{user|Bearact}} - piling new lies on top of old lies doesn't make the old lies less false. I hate to have to repeat this remarably simple fact to you . No, your "nomination" did not contain *any* coherent arguments to delete, just lies and innunendo. Anyone with half a brain (which excludes you and {{user|DangerousPanda}} should realise; you can't argue that x+y=x, where y>0, as you have tried to do. Repeatedly. And finally, yes, you did ask for me to get blocked merely by whinging about it to AN/I (and no doubt getting your pet admin to do the job for you). I predict that this will be sorted soon however. | |||
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| {{user|DangerousPanda}} - before I ask for unblocked, I ask politely that you undo your unjusitifed actions. ] (]) 10:38, 28 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| At ] is discussed the possibility of creating a genealogy-related Wikimedia email list. In order to request the creation of such a list, '''we need your voice and your vote'''. | |||
| : By your , you have been consistently violating two key principles of Misplaced Pages: ], and ]. A block is intended to be a last resort when someone refuses to follow the ]. The first block is supposed to be final part of the learning curve. Unfortunately, while blocked, and now AFTER your previous block, you continued down the same path of insults and ABF. As such, it's apparent you either a) cannot learn to act within the behavioural norms you agreed to on this private website, or b) you ''refuse'' to abide by those same norms. This block is for ''your'' continued behaviour outside the expected norms, and is unfortunately quite justified. We cannot allow ''any'' editor to continually refer to another as a "liar", "delusional", or any such actions <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 11:00, 28 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::{{tps}} '''Comment'''. It would be a significant loss to wikipedia if this situation, BBB remaining indefinitely blocked, were to continue, um, indefinitely. His contributions where he and I intersect have always been constructive, sensible, and ultimately of benefit to the project. What should be done to help reverse this situation? Can I do anything? -] (]) 11:23, 28 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ::: Roxy, I typically agree - content edits are not usually the problem; behaviour towards others is. Behaviour is not something a mentor can handle. Indef blocks are not infinite - they are "until the community is convinced the behaviour will not recur". At this point, this block is for ''continual recurrence'' of a set of behaviours. How ''does'' one move forward if every word typed is basically an insult to someone? <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 11:34, 28 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::: I agree totally to the rules. I have always abided by the reules. ] (]) 17:51, 31 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| , over a city councilor? A wiki break, even if not voluntary, may be a good thing to help you get your perspective back. -- ] 03:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| :::: {{user|TheRedPenOfDoom}} - this has never been about me. It has always been about {{user|Bearcat}} starting a disruptive AFD with lies, then rather than retracting those lies, adding further lies on top of those original lies, and then craftily getting his pet admin {{user|DangerousPanda}} to back him up. It is quite clear tat the wfong peron has been infintely blocked here and I resent the dispersions cast against my character. ] (]) 17:51, 31 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Bearcat is not the one calling other editors idiots and liars. This '''is''' about you and how you are handling this situation- which is turning out to be "in a way that results in you getting blocked and getting your block extended." And it doesnt have to be that way. -- ] 17:56, 31 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: Thanks {{user|TheRedPenOfDoom}} - it's quite clear who started this. It's quite clear who escaleated ths and it wasn't me. Now, I could pretend to be sorry however that would be in effect an admission that {{user|Bearcat}} didn't lie and wasn't being disruptive. However, I have principls, and cannot take this action as it is unprincipled. I am not sorry, and cannot retract my statements about {{user|Bearcat}} because simply they are true. ] (]) 18:02, 31 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::i could tell you that no matter who started it and who escalated it, what happens from here on in depends mostly upon you, but I think you already know that. I hope that you are able to find a way to keep your principles in tact within the Misplaced Pages framework so that you can return to editing. (And maybe you can add to your principles "I will never call anyone an idiot or liar ''on Wiki'' again - i will just have my dog think it at them." )-- ] 18:18, 31 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
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WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.2
Newsletter Nr 2 for WikiProject Genealogy (and Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
Participation: This is the second newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise. (To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please see below) Progress report: In order to improve communication between genealogy interested wikipedians, as well talking in chat mode about the potential new wiki, a new irc channel has been setup, and you are welcome to visit and try it out at: #wikimedia-genealogy (In case you are not familiar with IRC, or would prefer some info and intro, please see Wikipedias IRC tutorial) At m:Talk:Wikimedia_genealogy_project#Wikimedia_user_group is discussed the possibility of creating a genealogy-related Wikimedia user group: please submit comments and suggestions, and whether you would like to be a member in such a group. Prime goal for the group is the creation of a new, free, genealogy wiki, but there is also a discussion weather we should propose a new project or support the adoption of an existing project? Read more at Meta; Wikimedia genealogy project where you also can support the creation with your vote, in case you haven't done so already. Future: The future of the Genealogy project, and creation of a new Wikimedia Genealogy Project, is something where you can make a an input. You can
Don't want newsletters? If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list or alternatively to opt-out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Opted-out of message delivery to your user talk page. Cheers from your WikiProject Genealogy coordinator Dan Koehl. To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery |
Genealogy project need your vote for creation of an email list
| Newsletter Nr 3 for WikiProject Genealogy (and Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
Participation: This is the third newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise. (To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please see below) Request: In order to improve communication between genealogy interested wikipedians, as well as taking new, important steps towards a creation of a new project site, we need to make communication between the users easier and more effective. At Mail list on meta is discussed the possibility of creating a genealogy-related Wikimedia email list. In order to request the creation of such a list, we need your voice and your vote. In order to create a new list, we need to put a request it in Phabricator, and add a link to reasoning/explanation of purpose, and link to community consensus. Therefore we need your vote for this now, so we can request the creation of the mail list. Read more about this email list at Meta; Wikimedia genealogy project mail list where you can support the creation of the mail list with your vote, in case you haven't done so already. Future:
Don't want newsletters? If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list or alternatively to opt-out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Opted-out of message delivery to your user talk page. Cheers from your WikiProject Genealogy coordinator Dan Koehl. To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery |
WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.4: Mail list created!
| Newsletter Nr 4, 2017-03-24, for WikiProject Genealogy (and Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
Participation: This is the fourth newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise. (To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please see below) Mail list is created: The project email list is now created and ready to use! Please feel free to subscribe at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-genealogy Future:
Don't want newsletters? If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list or alternatively to opt-out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Opted-out of message delivery to your user talk page. Cheers from your WikiProject Genealogy coordinator Dan Koehl. To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery |
WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.5 -2017
| Newsletter Nr 5, 2017-12-30, for WikiProject Genealogy (and Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
Participation: This is the fifth newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise. (To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please see below) A demo wiki is up and running! Dear members of WikiProject Genealogy, this will be the last newsletter for 2017, but maybe the most important one! You can already now try out the demo for a genealogy wiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/Main_Page and try out the functions. You will find parts of the 18th Pharao dynasty and other records submitted by the 7 first users, and it would be great if you would add some records. And with those great news we want to wish you a creative New Year 2018!
Cheers from your WikiProject Genealogy coordinator Dan Koehl. To discontinue receiving Project Genealogy newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery |