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| == A barnstar for you! == | |||
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| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Happy New Year, Drmies! In 2024, other editors thanked you using the ] on the English Misplaced Pages. This made you the '''#11 most thanked Wikipedian in 2024'''. Congratulations and, well, ''thank you'' for all that you do for Misplaced Pages. Here's to 2025! ] (]) 19:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| *Haha thanks, {{U|Mz7}}--and I just hit you with a +2! ] (]) 15:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *{{U|Bbb23}}, happy new year, and how is it that you are thanked more than me??? I thought I was the good cop! ] (]) 15:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| **It's a conspiratorial ploy by the perps to cozy up to the bad cop.--] (]) 16:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ***Shoot I just thanked ] for an edit, and she was already ahead of me. ] (]) 17:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :::* As explained on my talk, I hope I do more real thank-you than lazy click-thanks ;) - Happy new year 2025, opened with ] that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page has). --] (]) 18:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::* ], my ] 300 years after the first performance, is up for GAN. ] will be my story tomorrow. --] (]) 21:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::* My ] is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --] (]) 09:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::* ... and today, ], ], in memory of her first appearance on stage OTD in 1900, and of principal author ]. --] (]) 18:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| Some more to cheer you up. ] (]) 16:21, 7 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *Thanks, Dr. Hafstadter: I need it. ] (]) 17:11, 7 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*I'll have some ] in my ] please. ] (]) 20:29, 7 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| {{You've got mail}} ] (]) 07:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| : I have ], with an image chosen from a Hafspajen collection, my favourite line "Ich gehe nicht schnell" --] (]) 20:32, 7 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ha, ich auch nicht. Xanty, it's coming up. Did you write up Mr. Ego yet? ] (]) 20:48, 7 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Halfway through. I've got to the bit where the planes with banners are flying over the demonstrators. Time to sleep, perchance to dream. ] (]) 21:21, 7 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::You know, Gerda, that picture you chose out of a giant collection ... a real good choice it was. I almost think .. feathured picture? Well, why not. ] (]) 10:04, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Thanks, flattered ;) - I guess it should appear in more articles than one, no? My only experience with FP was not so good: my suggestion (]) was not considered because of its photographer, - well, look at the links in the world ;) - with the help of a friend I managed even Hebrew, possible the single edit I am most proud of! --] (]) 14:50, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hm, sombody went pointig out faults, so I am affraid .. it won't work. ] (]) 21:58, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == Edits to Columbia High School (New Jersey) == | |||
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| Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at ] regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on ]. <!--Template:An3-notice--> Thank you. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:50, 8 September 2014</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
| The article for ] definitely needs additional sources and has to some issues of tone addressed. There are sources about the school available to update many of the issues you highlighted. ] (]) 23:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Alert the cabal . . . == | |||
| *Happy New Year, {{U|Alansohn}}. I hope there are, and I hope they're grrrreat. That article was a bit excessive. ] (]) 00:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Sockpuppet == | |||
| . . . and I mean ! | |||
| Got someone editing as an IP to escape a block and complain at the Teahouse. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| How ya holdin' up, Doc? | |||
| :Nevermind, they got globally blocked literally ''the'' minute I sent this lol. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::Oh, it's that one again. So boring. I wonder what their New Year's resolutions include. Haha, "this year I'm going to look for North Korean proxies". Good luck! ] (]) 00:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::"Resolution 1: Complain about being banned on a website for almost 7 hours" ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::I actually forgot how long it's been. Has it been a year? Ah--I blocked User:MidAtlanticBaby indefinitely on June 18. I see they're now actually banned by the Foundation: I don't know if you know this, but you have to go REALLY crazy to get banned by the Foundation. ] (]) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Oh yeah, definitely didn't know that...{{pb}}Also, this has been going on for MONTHS? ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Yes. When I say "childish" I mean it. This is likely a somewhat grown person with a driver license and the right to vote, who could be watching Georgia play football and make soup for their family and walk the dog. Instead, they're harassing a bunch of people including one who had nothing to do with them getting their dumb ass blocked. But they know some shit about proxies and whatnot and now they're just being cute, hoping to get caught and get attention. ] (]) 00:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::Well, now whenever I feel down I'll just remember I'm way happier with my life than MidAtlanticBaby! Thanks for this Misplaced Pages lore Drmies. ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == 120.21.0.0/16 == | |||
| <sup><small><font color="green">]</font></small></sup><sub style="margin-left:-4.2ex;"><small><font color="blue">]</font></small></sub> 07:35, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *Well, after reading, in an ANI thread about me, that "I did not bring here because he's an antisemite or because he's a Nazi", I think someone is telling me that I am. That's not a nice thing to hear. Hey, Bongo! Nice to see you again. What's been going on? I started a stub on an architect the other day, and it brought back all kinds of memories: one of the sources is a Dutch architectural website called ArchiNed, and when I searched that word to see if we had an article, or how to capitalize it, I saw a whole bunch of articles CoM and I wrote up in the good old days. So I'm a bit mixed up, I suppose. Well, I don't think ''we'' have a Department for Experimental Topo-charcuterie, but I'll give this a try. Thanks! ] (]) 14:06, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*I could tell you that in ] there's a butcher whose bacon is so good that even Polish babas praise it. But that would be spam. ] (]) 16:01, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Spam is made from shoulder meat. Bacon is from the belly.] (]) 16:11, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::*Spam, spam, glorious spam, nuffink' goes in it except chopped shoulder meat and <s>ham</s> mechanically recovered shoulder meat. ] (]) 16:23, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::*I had to stay up late last night since I managed to score a three-pound ] at half price yesterday. That was eight long hours, checking on the slow cooker. ] (]) 16:26, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::My friend has been using a water circulator bath to slow cook his butt. They sell devices for $150 that turns any pot into a extremely low temperature slow cooker.] (]) 16:50, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :Normally every single talk given on ] includes of a orange and doughnut to illustrate topologically-distinct manifolds. Today we enter a glorious era, where we can illustrate this with bacon and ... more bacon. ] (]) 17:52, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*Sorry, but this is a talk page dedicated to the liberal arts. We don't do car parts here--that's the domain of {{U|Scalhotrod}}, who'll be glad to talk about manifolds until the sun goes down one final time. ] (]) 17:56, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::* Is that petrol I smell? How can I be of service? :) BTW, I am also a devotee of the ] and routinely apply the "low and slow" treatment to various cuts... --] - Just your ] banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... ] ☮ღ☺ 18:12, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::*I'm waiting for someone to bring on the bacon donuts. That Green Egg, I've heard a lot of good things about it, but I also read its price tag, so that's a no. (Liberal arts talk page, liberal arts paycheck.) Until Green Egg hires me to rewrite their article, of course--I suppose {{U|CorporateM}} has them in their Rolodex. ] (]) 18:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::* Drmies, find your local or closest "EggFest", the annual gathering of Eggers and all things relatedly delicious. BGE usually sponsors these events and ships several pallets of Eggs to the venue which are then available for sale (usually pre-sale before the event and picked up at the end) as "demo/display units" at a '''deep discount'''. Shooosh, don't tell anyone else... :) | |||
| ::::*Hmm... Bacon donuts, sounds promising. I wonder if you can just deep fry the whole thing or if there's precooking involved. It would make a nice bookend to my jalapeno poppers paired with one of my homemade ]. --] - Just your ] ], ], ]... ] ☮ღ☺ 18:34, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::*Don't tell {{U|Kelapstick}}--he's already on a pretty serious Simvastatin regimen. That lady actually looks a lot like K-stick and sounds like him too. ] (]) 19:11, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ] ] 23:42, 8 September 2014 (UTC)]] | |||
| Hey Drmies, I saw the drahmah that has been inflicted upon you the last few days, and I want very much to offer you my sympathy and best wishes. It should never have happened to you. It's a pity that this kind of stuff crops up so often at this website. To quote the great philosopher Taylor Swift, shake it off. Anyway, I hope you are doing well. --] (]) 19:26, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *No good deed goes unpunished, {{U|Tryptofish}}, and so you and some others there will probably suffer for ''your'' good deeds as well--really, I saw your comments and I appreciate it, as well as the note here. See, if they had left me a note saying hey, what about this? we could have had a conversation, but all this huffing and puffing, with a templated warning and some thinly veiled accusations--yeah, it's not good for the soul. Anyway, it's over for now, and I think common sense has prevailed on the talk page. The article has been moved back by some people who know what they're talking about, and some others came by and fixed syntax and language, so it's all good (I admit it's hard for me sometimes to write good English when I'm reading Dutch sources). And to be accused of having some right-wing agenda... I wrote ] the other day, inspired by this mess, and when those planes flew over I was down below, and have despised them and their right-wing ilk ever since. Sorry, I'm waxing prosaic. Thanks again. ] (]) 23:29, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Good! I've been on the receiving end myself, with a lot of similarities to what you received. --] (]) 23:34, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::Time to behave badly towards Drmies: the OSL did not have members as it was a foundation, not a society or association. So it were supporters. Prosper Ego was never really in action in the Dutch Indies as he was a pencil pusher. Unfortunately, I passed on my archives when I moved country. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 00:05, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Banner, good point--guess I never thought about that. So please propose a different word (well, don't propose, just stick it in there and then I'll see you on ANI, haha)--but how else does on translate ? As for the pencil-pushing, you'll note that I wrote "served"--I am well aware of his, you know, Rambo-ish lifestyle. So--you left twenty-plus jaargangen of ''Sta-Vast'' behind? What a loss! (And, Banner, thanks for moving that article back. It's good to not be alone.) ] (]) 00:13, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Ehm, no. I did not leave does magazines behind. I handed over my archives to the anti-fascistic research group Kafka. Errrr, was happy enough that they did not ask question how some of the info was obtained. {{smiley}} My grandfather was in the (non-military) resistance and I followed his lead, updated to the changed times. (A distant cousin earned the Military William Order at the Grebbeberg. He urges his men to stand firm and not retreat. He is still there.)<span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 00:31, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::The OSL presented itself as an association but were in fact three foundations. So the "members" could be supporters or just subscribers of the magazine. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 00:38, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::: Haha. Maybe this is a good time to disclose to you that I was in the KZA ''and'' the MKA! Your archives, {{U|Xanthomelanoussprog}} and I could have used them for ] (which is around the corner from where I grew up--in fact, you can sort of see my house in that aerial photograph). So--does "organization" need to be changed to "foundation"? Please correct the article. ] (]) 00:44, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::*I've got a rough translation of the Ego article (offline)- just want to go through it again to make sure I've not done anything too egregious. The original Dutch article introduces Ego as an old soldier, but then fails to substantiate that. It claims that he was not involved in "police" actions but was doing journalism (??) DYK that the Japanese did joint military actions with the British in Indonesia at the end of WW2? And the last German campaign medal of WW2 was issued by permission of the British military, who made sure there wasn't a swastika on it. ] (]) 06:58, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::*As Banner said, he was a pencil pusher. I saw that in one of the sources, can't remember which one--it may have been the Kafka source. Now, I don't know if Banner was joking about having bequeathed his archives to Kafka (the Dutch have a weird sense of humor), but Kafka's POV is to be considered. That is, if ''they'' say he never saw action, I'm sure they'd find that amusing given the posturing of the OSL. ] (]) 15:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::I was active in a local chapter of the more radical AFA. Changed some thingies in the OSL article and added a source. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 10:21, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Hi, would you consider unblocking this IP range? I don't want to, both because I'm unsure of the situation, and because I'm a little bit involved — it includes the address I'm using for the wireless network at my local public library. I don't understand the reason for the block, since you blocked it almost a month after the latest edit appearing at ], and there are no deleted contributions. ] (]) 05:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::Alert - Drmies can you translate this article? . {{U|Crisco 1492}} asked me how do I know that this painting has a pair, - well, my Dutch tells me the info is in this article. ] (]) 10:36, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *Hey {{U|Nyttend}}--I blocked the range because of one particular sock, who by now has created 215 accounts that we blocked and tagged, in a little over a year. There were two from that range that, looking at the block, were my immediate reason for the block, and since then it's been much quieter. Let me email you, lest I drop BEANS all over the place. ] (]) 14:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Sure thing Haf. ] (]) 15:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| **Thanks for the response. This response makes sense, and the email was great; thank you. ] (]) 19:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::*Well done! Of course {{U|Randykitty}}, the original drive-by tagger, had to go and deface it... That photo, BTW, is priceless. I imagine him yelling at {{U|The Banner}}--Banner is sixteen, and they ran into each other at a 1 May manifestation in Beverwijk. Ego is trying to get into the supermarket to pick up some butter since Mrs. Ego is in the mood (for stewed eel! sheesh!), and there's Banner, with his little table selling his little buttons, and his little red book is sticking out of the pocket of his German Army jacket full of peace signs and "Kernenergie? Nee bedankt!" stickers. And Banner sees who he is dealing with: a middle-aged white man, representing all that he hates about his country (looks a lot like his father, probably). If he can sway this man, ''this'' one man, then the war is won, and we'll leave NATO, and there will be happiness and equality in South Africa, and Marxism will take over all of Asia and Nixon will simply wink and let them, and no teacher will ever write up another student for smoking pot during lunch hour, and everyone will realize that Yes's ''Fragile'' indeed holds the key to the universe...all that and more.<p>But Ego will have none of it. Here's some long-haired boy who should be in school. He doesn't smell so good either, though there's an exotic aroma that reminds him of long ago, of 1949. And this boy (half a head taller than him, but still) starts talking about fairness and nuclear cruise missiles and some black people in an arid part of the world who apparently have rights too and he probably doesn't change shirts more often than once a week. And he looks at him and does not see himself, just a predator out to get his daughter, a leech sucking up ''his'' hard-earned money by way of a repressive tax system that taxes those like him, those who have worked so hard to make some more money than the neighbors. He probably spells everything in some weird new way either, with those hard k's and sloppy sj's. Probably studies sosjologie at the Pedagogiese Akademie, in Esperanto. And this child is telling him he's been wrong all his life, that he's a mass murderer like ], that he is personally responsible for the death of little children in factories in Bangladesh because he shops at C&A? NO! And I'll tell you something else, you stinking little Communist rat, ... !<p>And that's when that photo was taken. ] (]) 00:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::::*That spy that you send after me is a rather dodgy guy. I left Beverwijk at age 14. {{smiley}} <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 00:11, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| {{ec}}XANTYY!! Thanks... you would love the painting Crisco just nominated. A Dutch king. Good looking too... Is there any page with the exception of AIV - Vandalism, where one is running into so many edit conflicts, may I ask....? GOSH; XANTY, you really did translated it, gugh. ] (]) 16:12, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::*gugh? I did notice that the Ego article claims that he got fined in 1995, but the OSL article says it was Mat Herben. ] (]) 16:25, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::*Hm, really? ] (]) 17:12, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::*It was Ego who got fined, the actual writers were former ] MP Hendrik Pors and P. Hermans . Herben joined the OSL much later. Dutch werkschuw, langharig tuig AKA ] (]) 10:42, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::*Thanks for that! ] (]) 17:45, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| I've done some more clean up and added some secondary sources. I'll add more as time allows. Please have a look and modify as needed. Best, --<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans -serif"> — ] • ] • </span> 16:36, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :And then there is his right hand man, ]. ] ] 19:39, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*Wow Keithbob, that's a pretty serious haircut! ] (]) 00:14, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| How can I convince user:Sky258 that, per ], airport connections need independent sources? Nearly all his/her are unsourced and reverted. Warnings did not help but blocking seems over the top. Do you have any ideas? <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 17:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Oops! == | |||
| *Hmm I disagree: they were warned by multiple editors, and the content is unsourced. I was going to ask about talk page consensus, but there is project-wide consensus... ] (]) 22:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| **Okay. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 23:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ***Unfortunately, the learning curve after the prior block is best described as flatliner... <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 02:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ****Hmm Banner I jumped on that too quickly: it was not a complete flatline, and I left the editor a note, which one might call a final warning. ] (]) 16:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Football sock == | |||
| Sorry about : stupid fat fingers on an iPhone screen! – ] (]) 18:21, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *If you know my real name, then you'd see that your edit summary is quite hilarious. I'll give you a hint: M I SHIT. No worries! And I won't tell you to get an Android--friends don't do that to friends. ] (]) 19:09, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*An android–perish the very thought! I hope your recent trip to ANI wasn't too hideous: never fun being there! Cheers – ] (]) 19:23, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Not college football, but still... See ]. I agree with GS and don't know why others are defending the user (casting aspersions indeed). Creating an RfA...doing so many moves it makes me dizzy...leaving trolling messages for other users... I'm on the edge of blocking myself for disruption, but a check would be helpful. Thanks.--] (]) 21:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == 142.150.48.0/24 == | |||
| :The ANI discussion has derailed into a discussion about whether Footballnerd2007 is using LLM, which they clearly are, but the user is choosing, unwisely, to wikilawyer, and GS, also unwisely, is trying to "nail" them. I thought about hatting it, but it's so rapid and I'm not sure where exactly I'd hat it. Oh, btw, another on my list above - read the user's Talk page - it's a cornucopia of warnings.--] (]) 22:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::What a mess. That got out of hand quickly--I'm also not happy with the alien's response. A check was run on the user, and I guess it showed nothing... ] (]) 15:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::Thanks. They are now being "mentored".--] (]) 18:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::Drmies, alien was obviously not trying to defend the user (you can tell through certain, subtle signs, such as the use of a face palm emoji and the phrase "You're not helping your case right now"), they were trying to de-escalate things. Is this really how you want to treat them? ] (]) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Sorry, but I don't know what prompted this, and I certainly don't understand that last, loaded question. Did I say that they were trying to "defend" the user? Where? What you could to is ask what I meant, if you're really interested in me and what I think. ] (]) 03:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ==Mail call== | |||
| Hi Drmies, regarding ], you can use to check contribs for any given range. Specifically, this is the for 142.150.48.0/24 from January of this year to current. It does indeed look like it could be range blocked again from what I'm seeing. That analysis can help you hunt down edits you didn't know about and find socks. | |||
| {{ygm}} I stopped e-mailing you long ago, since it always bounced, but perhaps it may be worth trying again? ] | ] 09:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC). | |||
| *YES. I've been so lonely! ] (]) 15:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Administrators' newsletter – January 2025 == | |||
| I backtracked this and found the ] so you know who you are dealing with now.<br /> — ] ] 21:46, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :I've went ahead and hardblocked this range for one year. Any named accounts caught behind that block need to be scrutinized as potential socks if they appeal the block.<br /> — ] ] 21:57, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*Hey {{U|Berean Hunter}}, I'm about to go track down all these particulars, but I already wanted to say thank you for your work. I really appreciate it, and I hope we can use this to stem that tide of useless edits. Thanks! ] (]) 23:14, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Can you help me expand '']'' please? Obviously, it needs more expansion and verification with plenty of resources. I'll be glad to also help you out in any way I can, if you ever need me for anything (just simply leave a message on my talk page, but be respectful and polite when you do so). Thanks. ] 3:54, 8 September 2014 | |||
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| :*Hmm, well, yes, it's correct, but this is an odd editorial history, so yes, I'd probably ask them, which is also very nice of you. Thanks, ] (]) 23:33, 8 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| ] '''Oversight changes''' | |||
| Would you consider fully protecting their talk page for a few days, possibly as an alternative to revocation of talk page access? Perhaps if everyone has a few days to regain a sense of perspective we might be able to make some progress, but I don't think it would be proper for the action to come from the blocking admin. Thanks, ] | ] 14:21, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| *You know what, given that their talk page is turning into a bit of forum for others as well, that's not a bad option. Thanks. ] (]) 14:23, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Could you believe that there was no article for ]? Via the new article on ] (is that a real name, sounds like a character from a bad novel) I landed at your OSL article. Hadn't thought about that group for years. Back when, I knew somebody who was a member of that group. Creepy. | |||
| * Following ], ] was adopted as a ]. | |||
| * A ] is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space. | |||
| ] '''Technical news''' | |||
| * The Nuke feature also now ] to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions. | |||
| ] '''Arbitration''' | |||
| No sooner do I unwatch this page (too busy, clutters my watchlist; and I almost never go to ANI) and the shit hits the fan, so saw this only just now. Hope things have calmed down now. Being accused of antisemitism would make me go ballistic, too. --] (]) 17:42, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * Following the ], the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: {{noping|CaptainEek}}, {{noping|Daniel}}, {{noping|Elli}}, {{noping|KrakatoaKatie}}, {{noping|Liz}}, {{noping|Primefac}}, {{noping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{noping|Theleekycauldron}}, {{noping|Worm That Turned}}. | |||
| *Good work! Man, he was goodlooking. I think he made waves in the US as well. Yes, things are quieter now, fortunately, with the help of some cool-headed people. And yes, that's some name, isn't it--{{U|The Banner}} is also on the case; I understand he occupied an honorary position on the OSL's hitlist (speaking metaphorically, of course). Banner en ik waren waarschijnlijk allebei langharig werkschuw tuig. ] (]) 17:52, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*That's a coincidence: just the other day I tried to explain to my wife what "langharig werkschuw tuig" means, but the best I could come up with was "long-haired work-shy hooligans", but that doesn't really capture it :-) Cremer made waves in the US too, I think you're right. But I'm a bit short on time and will leave it for someone else to expand. --] (]) 18:01, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::* The best visualisation of "langharig werkschuw tuig" is still ]. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 20:07, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ] '''Miscellaneous''' | |||
| ==Mmmm... bacon== | |||
| * A ] is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the ]. ] | |||
| ] 18:46, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *Yup. Lunch time! ] (]) 18:47, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| I tend to think ] is probably not going to change their ways and I strongly believe they are wrong and will be unable to provide sources to back their point, but they do make a specific request "someone made reference in this article to the declining moral standards of the people of Brighton and Hove", which precludes it from being a forum post. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you should censor them. ] (]) 19:08, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Please take a look at ] and comment. Though this may be implied by other policies, I think it's worthwhile making it explicit. Thanks, --] (]) 19:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :If Drmies hadn't reverted, I would have. The editor is free to make no-way-that's-going-to-happen requests without the frothing at the mouth ranting. --] <sup>]</sup> 19:21, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *CombatWombat, thank you for not reverting again. No one will be able to prove anything about "declining moral standards" since it's not a measurable quantity: that user is simply trolling, pretending to be some hardcore Muslim when they're really either a drunk skinhead or a dumb high-schooler, or both. Hope I didn't break the BLP here, but the trolling was just obvious, and if you want to call my removal of that post "censorship", well, then, I, I don't know. Thank you {{U|NeilN}}. ] (]) 22:47, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == FORDROCKEFELLER1974 == | |||
| == Apparently I'm a spammer == | |||
| See {{UTRS|98810}}. The claim is that Bishonen allowed a new account to be created, in comments over at ]. What are your thoughts? Note that I have ''not'' looked at the checkuser technical data and... am dubious... --] (]) 23:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Urk, I tried to send you email, but it was returned: "Message rejected as spam by Content Filtering." Do you have a way to add me to a white list? Or can you send me an alternate email address to send it to? ] <span style="color:blue">•</span> ] 21:48, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| * |
*Ha, yes, but Bish said that before I had a looked and confirmed that Looney had logged in (and I just checked again, to make sure). I can't read the VRT (I still can't log in) so I don't know what the "compromised" thing was, but this is socking going back to 2021. ] (]) 02:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| **Yes, same email address. Thanks. ] <span style="color:blue">•</span> ] 23:25, 9 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | == ] == | ||
| Perhaps you could take a look at this - a new but prolific ip with all the jargon. Possible returning sock? Greatly concerned about the reputation of Philip II of Spain. Cheers, ] (]) 01:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| Drmies, and friendly talk page stalkers. After five plus years on this site, I have finally summoned the courage to make some relatively minor (but I believe useful) stylistic changes to the lead of a truly important article, ]. I am asking anyone who reads this page to review my work, and to make additional improvements if warranted. Feel free to revert any inadvertant foolishness. Thank you. ] ] 06:49, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *{{U|Johnbod}}, there is a copious amount of logged-out editing there, though I don't see direct evidence of them using IPs to circumvent policy--but that the same person is editing without logging in is indisputable (and I warned them), so that leaves the actual IPs. In many cases the logged-out editing is from VPNs that have been blocked before, by ]--who I see is retired? What is this world coming to... So I'm not exactly sure what to do, since that's not really my cup of tea, and ] isn't very insightful. I see ] is running that but they are not a CU, and it's at least three or four different ranges. ], if you know how to handle them, can you have a look and do what's right on those ranges? Yes, Philip II is certainly well worth our time. Thanks, ] (]) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| About the articles you created ... (absolutely gorgious, Drmies, great stuff) ... ] and ]. There is ''']''' here too... Thanks a lot. Good job. You are a good guy, Dr Mies. (Nice girl you have there, on your edit notice ...) ] (]) 07:53, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :*Yep, definite good guy. You could have picked up that Alma-Tadema cheap 4 decades ago (probably about 500 USD). ] (]) 08:20, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Hm.. ] is a red link? I expect that it is not the same as ] (Xanty you will love this one...) ] (]) 11:13, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::* A a diamond for writing on glass? Who use to do that? ]. ] (]) 11:20, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::*I could not come up with a decent translation for "inktset"--it's not in my English vocabulary. {{U|Gerda Arendt}} is, I believe, the authority on inkpots; she might know. ] (]) 14:10, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::* Sorry, not this time. Which language is that? --] (]) 14:14, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::* Seems to be something in printing, on facebook and twitter, --] (]) 14:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::*Ink cartridges, for inkjet printer- at least in Flemish. Could almost be ''inked set''- the ''inked'' referring to people with tattoos. There's various famous examples of writing with diamond on window panes- a form of posh graffiti. The present form is known as "scratchiti"- scratching on train windows. ] (]) 14:31, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::My problem was that we don't have an ARTICLE on WRITING SET - there is such a thing, you know, but the computer age lost it ... ] (]) 19:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::Ah, new I am ''']'''... Not humorous enoug? Well, well ] (]) 15:07, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| Could you walk me through reassigning user rights? I've discovered some PGAME at ] and I blocked them while I redo the user rights. Sorry, I've not done much of this. I've got Special:UserRights/54rt678 open. ] (]) 04:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == A beer for you == | |||
| :The user has 509 edits, and 250 of them were done three days ago on the linked sandbox. ] (]) 04:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| ::Do I merely uncheck, leave a reason and save (and watch)? Just something I haven't seen done recently. ] (]) 04:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :::It was so simple I figured it out myself, but I needed another editor to reassure me. Don't mind doing the job, but am sometimes nervous about affecting someone unduly. ] (]) 05:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''A Dutch Golden Age Beer for You - that Long glass is the Beer''' | |||
| ::::Sure thing. That editor is headed for an indef: incompetence mixed with promotional editing. ] (]) 14:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :::::Not a very mature approach, granted. Hey, this morning I welcomed (after I reverted) a user who'd in Caleb Williams's article. It will get weirder than that... ] (]) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| |style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | In style. ] (]) 11:54, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::At least they apologized. I really loathe those kinds of edits, though not as much as the "daddy" variation. ] (]) 14:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| :::::::Among their last 4 edits, two were adding commas to TP's post. Looking at that I'm not sure why we would trust them to edit any longer. ] ] 14:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::Maybe, ], but I found nothing--I was thinking of various returning nuisances but saw no evidence. Wait and see, I think. ] (]) 15:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::::I tried to make it as plain as I could to the PGAMER that all their edits would be under close observation henceforth. If they can't ''hold themselves'' accountable, how can we? ] (]) 16:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::::Ha, is that a rhetorical question? ] (]) 17:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| == Any admin stalkers here with some time on their hands? == | |||
| Returned to ] AGAIN, with that nonsensical ref about a BENFICA match for a SPORTING championship win (reverted it on the spot)! I guess the rest can stay (should you see that the sources are appropriate, if not remove it), will duly compose it (i.e. Style of play section) when i get home. | |||
| Are there any admin stalkers here with some time on their hands? There are problems at ] and at other articles where {{noping|Lindashiers}} has been involved. The account is fairly new but the person behind it obviously is not. - ] (]) 12:00, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
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| Do you (or your stalkers) know anything about this? It sounds a bit fishy to me right now. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 14:26, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == If you have time == | |||
| *No clue. I'll add to your note. Thanks, ] (]) 16:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| **Thanks, seeing the edits of this account, the editor did this wiki-wide. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 16:50, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :(stalker comment) I don't really have anything conclusive to add, but from what I see, the user who uploaded the images is not banned or even warned from either enwiki or Commons. He appears to be a professional photographer who uploads many of his images to commons, and then Misplaced Pages, replacing lower-quality existing ones if necessary (I guess there is a small chance its all a big copyright misuse but you'd have thought that would have been picked up upon, particularly as his work involves famous buildings and peopel so probably gets a lot of views). You can see on his talk page there is a message from an IP user in 2019 (who stopped editing in the same year) regarding 'excessive use of own images'. I'm unsure if any such rule actually exists, but in my opinion it was not applicable anyway as the use of the images improved the site, were not self-promotional in terms of including watermarks or anything to overtly identify the contributor, and was not excessive proliferation of photos within individual articles. The reverting user has only made 92 edits, half of which were reverting the photographer today. Not sure why they would even take this course of action, expect perhaps they noticed an image (one of their own?) replaced by the photographer editor, read their talk page, decided the 2019 message was something official and unilaterally decided it justified reverting all recent additions (in the same style as the 2019 user, which is suspicious too). ] (]) 17:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| There's another issue at ]. CSDarrow was warned that his repeated and now tendentious beaviour WRT to a paragraph about Marital rape was unacceptable. This is his edit (the last one btw) before the page was protected and this is the first edit after protection ceased . This is the same edit on August 29th. This is where the tendentious is most recently on display but here's the same dicsussion in September 2012 - there was no consensus for removal then. The same thing again in June 2013 again closing without consensus for removal. CSDarrow's campaign to remove sourced material has at this point reached ] and ] levels. There's also a thread ] BTW if you can't handle this just let me know--] <sup>]</sup> 13:15, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :], thank you for doing some of that leg work--I had looked at various things but managed to miss that IP comment. And that IP comment: well, "excessive" use is a thing frowned upon but you laid out the (common sense) practices pretty neatly; thank you for that as well. ] (]) 18:08, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *I couldn't help looking at this since you pinged me in the section above. I don't want to step on your toes, my friend, but I think you've got a very obvious agenda-driven account there—a perfect example of TE and NOTHERE. If this had been brought up on my talk page, I'd have indef' him. ] | ] 14:39, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :{{tl|tps}} That photographer's license terms seem to take a strict position on the exact way credit must be given in off-wiki uses of their work. I'm not sure if they have pursued settlements against good-faith reusers or in other ways headed into license-trolling. I, like others, cannot find discussion about it on enwiki or commons.{{pb}}There was a previous case (long ago, different license-holder) where consensus formed that the ''effect'' of mass use of a certain creator's content on-wiki was to induce innocent/good-faith but not "strictly by the not-quite-expected license terms" use off-wiki, enabling forced legal settlements. There was thought that the creator themself was actually intentional about using wiki in this way, and that all of this exceeded the community's tolerance and good-faith. ] (]) 18:02, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| **On second thoughts, having now seen ], I've blocked him for a year. ] | ] 15:03, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::], yes, thanks--I remember a case too and I think it played out on Commons, that guy who posted videos of himself ejaculating and stuff, and there was a guy who sucked his own ****. But more to the point, I also remember a case of a photographer who, it was judged, was basically here to promote their own business and I think an ANI post led to removal of some of those images. But I can't see what practical guidelines ] is supposed to have broken. ] (]) 18:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ***], thanks for looking into this. I've looked at all those links--being somewhat familiar with CSDarrow, and in some respects sympathetic towards them--and I agree that this is unfortunately a good decision. The only thing I wonder is whether he shouldn't be indeffed given the stack of evidence. I wouldn't say NOTHERE, necessarily--but disruption and tendentious editing, sure, with some IDNHT thrown in for good measure. (I don't understand why they'd continue for two years on this one issue and not learn that removal of that text without clear talk page consensus will lead to these kinds of consequences.) {{U|Cailil}}, if there's one thing I learned from perusing those diffs and other talk page discussions, it's that you must have been a great student in the classroom--your homework is impeccable. Thanks for your efforts in MRM, and Harry, thanks for your work here as well. ] (]) 16:06, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| :::I have no idea if there is off-wiki evidence of actual legal actions against re-users, or claims that WP sites are inducement. But I also assume anything I'd find by googling I couldn't mention here for OUTING anyway. ] (]) 18:15, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ****I considered an indef as an ordinary admin action, but I thought a year under the article probation had a greater chance of sticking. Besides, I've already indef'd one established editor this week. It's not one of the more enjoyable aspects of adminship. ] | ] 17:49, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Yep, and any kind of case should be either discussed on-wiki or submitted privately if there's some privacy concern, rather than signaled (if that's even the word) with a boilerplate and vague edit summary. ] (]) 18:18, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :], I have reverted those edits. Thanks for bringing it up. ] (]) 18:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ::Your welcome. I hope the editor just made a mistake. <span style="border:1px solid green; padding:0 2px">] ]</span> 02:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| :For every one who's interested, please see ]. ] (]) 21:42, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Just to clarify posts on Miijumaaru talk page == | |||
| THanks for looking at this HJ and Drmies - I think the year is better than indef. I hope CSD can learn from this rather than just blame eeryone else and ignore it. But I don't know. Any way thanks for keeping an eye while Bbb23 is on a well earned holiday--] <sup>]</sup> 20:11, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| The conversation I pinged you in at was a continuation of the post right above at . The editor broke it into two parts for some reason and I wasn't about to correct the nesting issue since the conversation turned turbulent. Since they did multiple changes to articles I thought it would be good to let them know that <nowiki>{{main}}</nowiki> is never used in the lead per the template itself. This was made aware to Tennis Project awhile back and several of us have been slowly fixing tennis articles to comply. A daunting task. I hope this helps you understand the situation I encountered. ] (]) 20:01, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Photography == | |||
| == On a side note to above template talk == | |||
| So, since you do painting articles, do you think you'd be interested in photography? I mean, ] has pretty much jack about him in English (though I'm trying to fix that). — ] (]) 15:36, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *Actually, I don't "do" art--I did this out of personal affection for The Haf. ''Kunst is een konijn dat kut zegt''. Now, I see you remedied that jackness (lack of jackness?) since I posted--looks GA ready, as usual... ] (]) 19:52, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *{{U|Crisco 1492}}, is a school he built (I love that kind of school building--I attended one in Zaandam, though a bit less gothic). He's discussed as well, but I can't read that stupid e-book. ] (]) 19:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| While template "main" should not be used in the lead, the template "further" is less clear on placement. I just looked and the template "see also" also says not to use in the lead and is used only at the top of sections. "Further" says nothing about placement and I can't help but wonder if that should also say not to use in the lead. Where best to bring that up? On the narrow Template:Further talk page? Or is there a more general template talk page that it should be talked about? Thanks. ] (]) 20:18, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == Requesting Rollback rights == | |||
| *That's a good question, and I don't have an answer for that--but I think ] is the first place I would go to. I don't know that that page gets a lot of traffic, though... But if, as you say, there is a consensus for the other one, you might could ping some of the editors who discussed that. ] (]) 21:26, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *:I posted at Manual of Style/Layout first to see if anyone knows the answer. Thanks. ] (]) 22:06, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| == AfD sock == | |||
| Hello, I have made 300 edits that plenty are against vandals, plus with the edits done with my retired account ]. I tried requesting this on the Rollback request page, but I get some kind of message that involves a template error. -- Cheers ] (]) 15:44, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| *], I have looked at the reversions among your last 100 or so edits. I see many occasions where you have properly reverted, and have called out and warned for vandalism. However, I see a few edits that cause me concern--not so much because they are necessarily wrong, but because you're asking for rollback. In particular I have found a few cases where, in my opinion, rollback is not to be used: (and warning the user was not the best decision), , (not to be rolled back--and the tag you restored is incorrect), (not to be rolled back, and I'm wondering by Plato needs to be dated in reference to Christ--here again, a user warning is really not the correct response: an explanation is better). What I'd like to hear from you is that you will look at these diffs and agree to not use rollback in such cases. Mind you, I'm not saying that you ''would'' user rollback; I think you probably wouldn't since you seem to be a positive, but I want to make sure. Thanks, ] (]) 16:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC) | |||
| There's something seriously wrong with {{noping|OhNoKaren}}. The account is about a week old, and she's already created many AfDs. That's pretty much all she's done. I vaguely remember some deletion socks, although I don't recall that they had problems with the procedure as she does. Even if she's not a sock, I'm thinking her editing is disruptive enough to block, but I have to go eat dinner. Can you check if you're still around?--] (]) 01:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *Well, we did just block an AfD troll, a few weeks ago, but this one has a clean record, from my perspective. I need coffee, BTW. ] (]) 13:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| **Thanks. Later, after logging out, it occurred to me that the new user's name is similar to {{U|Ohnoitsjamie}}, not similar enough to block for impersonation, but I wondered if the user's conduct rings any bells, Jamie?--] (]) 15:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ***Sounds like a "sour grapes" account, someone upset that their vanity bio/company page was deleted? Not sure what the specific case would be. I suspect a sock check would turn up multiple accounts. <b>] ]</b> 15:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ****Sorry to disappoint you. ;) ] (]) 16:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ****See analysis on ] - she did nominate multiple vanity bio/company pages, and I think those will actually get deleted. --] (]) 16:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *****If many of the nominations have merit, it makes her less disruptive, but not less suspicious.--] (]) 16:34, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| **** CU would probably be stale, but ] comes to mind; after I deleted a page they created, they became very active in AfD; some of the noms were good, but many were not and they were eventually blocked, unblocked, then reblocked for violating terms of their unblock. <b>] ]</b> 17:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *****HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU REMEMBER STUFF LIKE THAT ] (]) 17:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ****** That's a great question; there's plenty of more useful stuff I wish that I remembered. <b>] ]</b> 17:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *******The two users don't write at all the same. Light2021 doesn't sound like a native English speaker. Drmies, was a check ever run against Light2021? Looks like they were accused of socking (their block log is, um, busy)?--] (]) 17:13, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ********Yep--by ] and, to stay on the topic of memory, by you. ;) ] (]) 17:34, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ********It's documented here, ], and Jpgordon checked after an unblock request in 2018. ] (]) 17:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| *********Ha! If you remember, my memory is almost non-existent, and as far as CU-related stuff, I repress all of it as bad memories. That said, I suspect that if you were to check the CU log of Light2021 vs. the data on Karen, you might find that they edit from different continents, pretty much ruling out that she's a sock of Light2021.--] (]) 18:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| **********Hmm no I don't remember that. ;) ] (]) 18:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| *I appreciate that--but I'm even stricter than you are: I think it's almost always a euphemism for "work"... ] (]) 13:00, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| **Thanks. I would like to be stricter, but encounter too much pushback from other editors. I think at most it should only be for unpaid, genuinely altruistic activity. As an example, and without wishing too be too cynical, far too many politicians are self-serving. And of course, we need to take into account that some reliable sources often still use the term for state sector jobs, military and politicians. Perhaps once it is removed from more business bios, we can start an RfC. ] (]) 14:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
| ***], thanks--I thought I'd be careful, since I didn't want to butt heads with you after you sent me this nice message, but I agree with you completely. If you get paid, it's not service. If you get underpaid, it might approach service--but if you are underpaid and still make a fair amount of money (like, for instance, as president of the US), "service" is a bit of a euphemism. As far as reliable sources go--yeah, but in "serve as president" the operational part is "president", not "serve". I teach at a state university: is this service? I like to think so, for various reasons, but it's ludicrous to pretty much equate that with philanthropy (another item we see in ALL those articles), as if it didn't come with a paycheck and possibly health insurance. No Christmas bonuses, of course. ] (]) 16:16, 16 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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| Happy New Year, Drmies! In 2024, other editors thanked you 1093 times using the thanks tool on the English Misplaced Pages. This made you the #11 most thanked Wikipedian in 2024. Congratulations and, well, thank you for all that you do for Misplaced Pages. Here's to 2025! Mz7 (talk) 19:39, 31 December 2024 (UTC) |
- Haha thanks, Mz7--and I just hit you with a +2! Drmies (talk) 15:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Bbb23, happy new year, and how is it that you are thanked more than me??? I thought I was the good cop! Drmies (talk) 15:29, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's a conspiratorial ploy by the perps to cozy up to the bad cop.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Shoot I just thanked User:Gerda Arendt for an edit, and she was already ahead of me. Drmies (talk) 17:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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- My story today is about a composer who influenced music history also by writing. Did you watch Masilo talk and dance? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Edits to Columbia High School (New Jersey)
The article for Columbia High School (New Jersey) definitely needs additional sources and has to some issues of tone addressed. There are sources about the school available to update many of the issues you highlighted. Alansohn (talk) 23:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Happy New Year, Alansohn. I hope there are, and I hope they're grrrreat. That article was a bit excessive. Drmies (talk) 00:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Sockpuppet
Got someone editing as an IP to escape a block and complain at the Teahouse. Tarlby 00:06, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Nevermind, they got globally blocked literally the minute I sent this lol. Tarlby 00:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, it's that one again. So boring. I wonder what their New Year's resolutions include. Haha, "this year I'm going to look for North Korean proxies". Good luck! Drmies (talk) 00:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Resolution 1: Complain about being banned on a website for almost 7 hours" Tarlby 00:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I actually forgot how long it's been. Has it been a year? Ah--I blocked User:MidAtlanticBaby indefinitely on June 18. I see they're now actually banned by the Foundation: I don't know if you know this, but you have to go REALLY crazy to get banned by the Foundation. Drmies (talk) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, definitely didn't know that...Also, this has been going on for MONTHS? Tarlby 00:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. When I say "childish" I mean it. This is likely a somewhat grown person with a driver license and the right to vote, who could be watching Georgia play football and make soup for their family and walk the dog. Instead, they're harassing a bunch of people including one who had nothing to do with them getting their dumb ass blocked. But they know some shit about proxies and whatnot and now they're just being cute, hoping to get caught and get attention. Drmies (talk) 00:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Well, now whenever I feel down I'll just remember I'm way happier with my life than MidAtlanticBaby! Thanks for this Misplaced Pages lore Drmies. Tarlby 00:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. When I say "childish" I mean it. This is likely a somewhat grown person with a driver license and the right to vote, who could be watching Georgia play football and make soup for their family and walk the dog. Instead, they're harassing a bunch of people including one who had nothing to do with them getting their dumb ass blocked. But they know some shit about proxies and whatnot and now they're just being cute, hoping to get caught and get attention. Drmies (talk) 00:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh yeah, definitely didn't know that...Also, this has been going on for MONTHS? Tarlby 00:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- I actually forgot how long it's been. Has it been a year? Ah--I blocked User:MidAtlanticBaby indefinitely on June 18. I see they're now actually banned by the Foundation: I don't know if you know this, but you have to go REALLY crazy to get banned by the Foundation. Drmies (talk) 00:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Resolution 1: Complain about being banned on a website for almost 7 hours" Tarlby 00:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, it's that one again. So boring. I wonder what their New Year's resolutions include. Haha, "this year I'm going to look for North Korean proxies". Good luck! Drmies (talk) 00:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
120.21.0.0/16
Hi, would you consider unblocking this IP range? I don't want to, both because I'm unsure of the situation, and because I'm a little bit involved — it includes the address I'm using for the wireless network at my local public library. I don't understand the reason for the block, since you blocked it almost a month after the latest edit appearing at Special:Contributions/120.21.0.0/16, and there are no deleted contributions. Nyttend (talk) 05:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hey Nyttend--I blocked the range because of one particular sock, who by now has created 215 accounts that we blocked and tagged, in a little over a year. There were two from that range that, looking at the block, were my immediate reason for the block, and since then it's been much quieter. Let me email you, lest I drop BEANS all over the place. Drmies (talk) 14:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the response. This response makes sense, and the email was great; thank you. Nyttend (talk) 19:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Advice needed
How can I convince user:Sky258 that, per WP:AIRPORT-CONTENT, airport connections need independent sources? Nearly all his/her additions are unsourced and reverted. Warnings did not help but blocking seems over the top. Do you have any ideas? The Banner talk 17:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm I disagree: they were warned by multiple editors, and the content is unsourced. I was going to ask about talk page consensus, but there is project-wide consensus... Drmies (talk) 22:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. The Banner talk 23:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the learning curve after the prior block is best described as flatliner... The Banner talk 02:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm Banner I jumped on that too quickly: it was not a complete flatline, and I left the editor a note, which one might call a final warning. Drmies (talk) 16:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the learning curve after the prior block is best described as flatliner... The Banner talk 02:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Okay. The Banner talk 23:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Football sock
Not college football, but still... See WP:ANI#Footballnerd2007. I agree with GS and don't know why others are defending the user (casting aspersions indeed). Creating an RfA...doing so many moves it makes me dizzy...leaving trolling messages for other users... I'm on the edge of blocking myself for disruption, but a check would be helpful. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:35, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- The ANI discussion has derailed into a discussion about whether Footballnerd2007 is using LLM, which they clearly are, but the user is choosing, unwisely, to wikilawyer, and GS, also unwisely, is trying to "nail" them. I thought about hatting it, but it's so rapid and I'm not sure where exactly I'd hat it. Oh, btw, another on my list above - read the user's Talk page - it's a cornucopia of warnings.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- What a mess. That got out of hand quickly--I'm also not happy with the alien's response. A check was run on the user, and I guess it showed nothing... Drmies (talk) 15:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. They are now being "mentored".--Bbb23 (talk) 18:10, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Drmies, alien was obviously not trying to defend the user (you can tell through certain, subtle signs, such as the use of a face palm emoji and the phrase "You're not helping your case right now"), they were trying to de-escalate things. Is this really how you want to treat them? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 20:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't know what prompted this, and I certainly don't understand that last, loaded question. Did I say that they were trying to "defend" the user? Where? What you could to is ask what I meant, if you're really interested in me and what I think. Drmies (talk) 03:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- What a mess. That got out of hand quickly--I'm also not happy with the alien's response. A check was run on the user, and I guess it showed nothing... Drmies (talk) 15:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
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I stopped e-mailing you long ago, since it always bounced, but perhaps it may be worth trying again? Bishonen | tålk 09:30, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
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FORDROCKEFELLER1974
See UTRS appeal #98810. The claim is that Bishonen allowed a new account to be created, in comments over at User_talk:TTTEMLPBrony. What are your thoughts? Note that I have not looked at the checkuser technical data and... am dubious... --Yamla (talk) 23:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ha, yes, but Bish said that before I had a looked and confirmed that Looney had logged in (and I just checked again, to make sure). I can't read the VRT (I still can't log in) so I don't know what the "compromised" thing was, but this is socking going back to 2021. Drmies (talk) 02:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Beeldenstorm
Perhaps you could take a look at this - a new but prolific ip with all the jargon. Possible returning sock? Greatly concerned about the reputation of Philip II of Spain. Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 01:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Johnbod, there is a copious amount of logged-out editing there, though I don't see direct evidence of them using IPs to circumvent policy--but that the same person is editing without logging in is indisputable (and I warned them), so that leaves the actual IPs. In many cases the logged-out editing is from VPNs that have been blocked before, by User:ST47ProxyBot--who I see is retired? What is this world coming to... So I'm not exactly sure what to do, since that's not really my cup of tea, and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Open proxies isn't very insightful. I see User:Malcolmxl5 is running that but they are not a CU, and it's at least three or four different ranges. User:Ponyo, if you know how to handle them, can you have a look and do what's right on those ranges? Yes, Philip II is certainly well worth our time. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 04:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Do you have a second?
Could you walk me through reassigning user rights? I've discovered some PGAME at User:54rt678/sandbox and I blocked them while I redo the user rights. Sorry, I've not done much of this. I've got Special:UserRights/54rt678 open. BusterD (talk) 04:08, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- The user has 509 edits, and 250 of them were done three days ago on the linked sandbox. BusterD (talk) 04:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Do I merely uncheck, leave a reason and save (and watch)? Just something I haven't seen done recently. BusterD (talk) 04:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- It was so simple I figured it out myself, but I needed another editor to reassure me. Don't mind doing the job, but am sometimes nervous about affecting someone unduly. BusterD (talk) 05:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure thing. That editor is headed for an indef: incompetence mixed with promotional editing. Drmies (talk) 14:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not a very mature approach, granted. Hey, this morning I welcomed (after I reverted) a user who'd burnt the Packers in Caleb Williams's article. It will get weirder than that... BusterD (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- At least they apologized. I really loathe those kinds of edits, though not as much as the "daddy" variation. Drmies (talk) 14:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Among their last 4 edits, two were adding commas to TP's post. Looking at that I'm not sure why we would trust them to edit any longer. Doug Weller talk 14:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe, Doug, but I found nothing--I was thinking of various returning nuisances but saw no evidence. Wait and see, I think. Drmies (talk) 15:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I tried to make it as plain as I could to the PGAMER that all their edits would be under close observation henceforth. If they can't hold themselves accountable, how can we? BusterD (talk) 16:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ha, is that a rhetorical question? Drmies (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I tried to make it as plain as I could to the PGAMER that all their edits would be under close observation henceforth. If they can't hold themselves accountable, how can we? BusterD (talk) 16:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe, Doug, but I found nothing--I was thinking of various returning nuisances but saw no evidence. Wait and see, I think. Drmies (talk) 15:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Among their last 4 edits, two were adding commas to TP's post. Looking at that I'm not sure why we would trust them to edit any longer. Doug Weller talk 14:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- At least they apologized. I really loathe those kinds of edits, though not as much as the "daddy" variation. Drmies (talk) 14:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not a very mature approach, granted. Hey, this morning I welcomed (after I reverted) a user who'd burnt the Packers in Caleb Williams's article. It will get weirder than that... BusterD (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure thing. That editor is headed for an indef: incompetence mixed with promotional editing. Drmies (talk) 14:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- It was so simple I figured it out myself, but I needed another editor to reassure me. Don't mind doing the job, but am sometimes nervous about affecting someone unduly. BusterD (talk) 05:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Do I merely uncheck, leave a reason and save (and watch)? Just something I haven't seen done recently. BusterD (talk) 04:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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User:Pinzunski/User:SukunaZenin
Returned to Francisco Trincão AGAIN, with that nonsensical ref about a BENFICA match for a SPORTING championship win (reverted it on the spot)! I guess the rest can stay (should you see that the sources are appropriate, if not remove it), will duly compose it (i.e. Style of play section) when i get home.
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Banned cease-and-desist photographer
I am really frazzled now. Someone is reverting edits by a user claimed to be a "Banned cease-and-desist photographer". I can not find any trace of that. You should expect some traces of that on ENWP, Meta or Commons, but no.
Do you (or your stalkers) know anything about this? It sounds a bit fishy to me right now. The Banner talk 14:26, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- No clue. I'll add to your note. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, seeing the edits of this account, the editor did this wiki-wide. The Banner talk 16:50, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- (stalker comment) I don't really have anything conclusive to add, but from what I see, the user who uploaded the images is not banned or even warned from either enwiki or Commons. He appears to be a professional photographer who uploads many of his images to commons, and then Misplaced Pages, replacing lower-quality existing ones if necessary (I guess there is a small chance its all a big copyright misuse but you'd have thought that would have been picked up upon, particularly as his work involves famous buildings and peopel so probably gets a lot of views). You can see on his talk page there is a message from an IP user in 2019 (who stopped editing in the same year) regarding 'excessive use of own images'. I'm unsure if any such rule actually exists, but in my opinion it was not applicable anyway as the use of the images improved the site, were not self-promotional in terms of including watermarks or anything to overtly identify the contributor, and was not excessive proliferation of photos within individual articles. The reverting user has only made 92 edits, half of which were reverting the photographer today. Not sure why they would even take this course of action, expect perhaps they noticed an image (one of their own?) replaced by the photographer editor, read their talk page, decided the 2019 message was something official and unilaterally decided it justified reverting all recent additions (in the same style as the 2019 user, which is suspicious too). Crowsus (talk) 17:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Crowsus, thank you for doing some of that leg work--I had looked at various things but managed to miss that IP comment. And that IP comment: well, "excessive" use is a thing frowned upon but you laid out the (common sense) practices pretty neatly; thank you for that as well. Drmies (talk) 18:08, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- {{tps}} That photographer's license terms seem to take a strict position on the exact way credit must be given in off-wiki uses of their work. I'm not sure if they have pursued settlements against good-faith reusers or in other ways headed into license-trolling. I, like others, cannot find discussion about it on enwiki or commons.There was a previous case (long ago, different license-holder) where consensus formed that the effect of mass use of a certain creator's content on-wiki was to induce innocent/good-faith but not "strictly by the not-quite-expected license terms" use off-wiki, enabling forced legal settlements. There was thought that the creator themself was actually intentional about using wiki in this way, and that all of this exceeded the community's tolerance and good-faith. DMacks (talk) 18:02, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- DMacks, yes, thanks--I remember a case too and I think it played out on Commons, that guy who posted videos of himself ejaculating and stuff, and there was a guy who sucked his own ****. But more to the point, I also remember a case of a photographer who, it was judged, was basically here to promote their own business and I think an ANI post led to removal of some of those images. But I can't see what practical guidelines User:Arne Müseler is supposed to have broken. Drmies (talk) 18:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have no idea if there is off-wiki evidence of actual legal actions against re-users, or claims that WP sites are inducement. But I also assume anything I'd find by googling I couldn't mention here for OUTING anyway. DMacks (talk) 18:15, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yep, and any kind of case should be either discussed on-wiki or submitted privately if there's some privacy concern, rather than signaled (if that's even the word) with a boilerplate and vague edit summary. Drmies (talk) 18:18, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have no idea if there is off-wiki evidence of actual legal actions against re-users, or claims that WP sites are inducement. But I also assume anything I'd find by googling I couldn't mention here for OUTING anyway. DMacks (talk) 18:15, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- DMacks, yes, thanks--I remember a case too and I think it played out on Commons, that guy who posted videos of himself ejaculating and stuff, and there was a guy who sucked his own ****. But more to the point, I also remember a case of a photographer who, it was judged, was basically here to promote their own business and I think an ANI post led to removal of some of those images. But I can't see what practical guidelines User:Arne Müseler is supposed to have broken. Drmies (talk) 18:10, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- User:The Banner, I have reverted those edits. Thanks for bringing it up. Drmies (talk) 18:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Your welcome. I hope the editor just made a mistake. The Banner talk 02:43, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- For every one who's interested, please see User talk:RAL1028. Drmies (talk) 21:42, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Just to clarify posts on Miijumaaru talk page
The conversation I pinged you in at Annoyed at rule changes was a continuation of the post right above at Please do not use template main in the lead. The editor broke it into two parts for some reason and I wasn't about to correct the nesting issue since the conversation turned turbulent. Since they did multiple changes to articles I thought it would be good to let them know that {{main}} is never used in the lead per the template itself. This was made aware to Tennis Project awhile back and several of us have been slowly fixing tennis articles to comply. A daunting task. I hope this helps you understand the situation I encountered. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:01, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
On a side note to above template talk
While template "main" should not be used in the lead, the template "further" is less clear on placement. I just looked and the template "see also" also says not to use in the lead and is used only at the top of sections. "Further" says nothing about placement and I can't help but wonder if that should also say not to use in the lead. Where best to bring that up? On the narrow Template:Further talk page? Or is there a more general template talk page that it should be talked about? Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:18, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's a good question, and I don't have an answer for that--but I think Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Layout is the first place I would go to. I don't know that that page gets a lot of traffic, though... But if, as you say, there is a consensus for the other one, you might could ping some of the editors who discussed that. Drmies (talk) 21:26, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- I posted at Manual of Style/Layout first to see if anyone knows the answer. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:06, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
AfD sock
There's something seriously wrong with OhNoKaren. The account is about a week old, and she's already created many AfDs. That's pretty much all she's done. I vaguely remember some deletion socks, although I don't recall that they had problems with the procedure as she does. Even if she's not a sock, I'm thinking her editing is disruptive enough to block, but I have to go eat dinner. Can you check if you're still around?--Bbb23 (talk) 01:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Well, we did just block an AfD troll, a few weeks ago, but this one has a clean record, from my perspective. I need coffee, BTW. Drmies (talk) 13:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Later, after logging out, it occurred to me that the new user's name is similar to Ohnoitsjamie, not similar enough to block for impersonation, but I wondered if the user's conduct rings any bells, Jamie?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sounds like a "sour grapes" account, someone upset that their vanity bio/company page was deleted? Not sure what the specific case would be. I suspect a sock check would turn up multiple accounts. OhNoitsJamie 15:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry to disappoint you. ;) Drmies (talk) 16:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- See analysis on User talk:OhNoKaren - she did nominate multiple vanity bio/company pages, and I think those will actually get deleted. --GRuban (talk) 16:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- If many of the nominations have merit, it makes her less disruptive, but not less suspicious.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:34, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- CU would probably be stale, but User:Light2021 comes to mind; after I deleted a page they created, they became very active in AfD; some of the noms were good, but many were not and they were eventually blocked, unblocked, then reblocked for violating terms of their unblock. OhNoitsJamie 17:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU REMEMBER STUFF LIKE THAT Drmies (talk) 17:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's a great question; there's plenty of more useful stuff I wish that I remembered. OhNoitsJamie 17:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- The two users don't write at all the same. Light2021 doesn't sound like a native English speaker. Drmies, was a check ever run against Light2021? Looks like they were accused of socking (their block log is, um, busy)?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:13, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yep--by User:jpgordon and, to stay on the topic of memory, by you. ;) Drmies (talk) 17:34, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's documented here, Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Light2021/Archive, and Jpgordon checked after an unblock request in 2018. Drmies (talk) 17:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ha! If you remember, my memory is almost non-existent, and as far as CU-related stuff, I repress all of it as bad memories. That said, I suspect that if you were to check the CU log of Light2021 vs. the data on Karen, you might find that they edit from different continents, pretty much ruling out that she's a sock of Light2021.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm no I don't remember that. ;) Drmies (talk) 18:11, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ha! If you remember, my memory is almost non-existent, and as far as CU-related stuff, I repress all of it as bad memories. That said, I suspect that if you were to check the CU log of Light2021 vs. the data on Karen, you might find that they edit from different continents, pretty much ruling out that she's a sock of Light2021.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- The two users don't write at all the same. Light2021 doesn't sound like a native English speaker. Drmies, was a check ever run against Light2021? Looks like they were accused of socking (their block log is, um, busy)?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:13, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's a great question; there's plenty of more useful stuff I wish that I remembered. OhNoitsJamie 17:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU REMEMBER STUFF LIKE THAT Drmies (talk) 17:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sounds like a "sour grapes" account, someone upset that their vanity bio/company page was deleted? Not sure what the specific case would be. I suspect a sock check would turn up multiple accounts. OhNoitsJamie 15:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Later, after logging out, it occurred to me that the new user's name is similar to Ohnoitsjamie, not similar enough to block for impersonation, but I wondered if the user's conduct rings any bells, Jamie?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Editor's Barnstar |
| Thank you for helping reduce the use of "served as", "serves as" and such like for what are not public service roles. In those two examples, "was" and "is" would be preferable (this last sentence is obviously not for your benefit, but might help someone else who reads this). Edwardx (talk) 12:21, 16 January 2025 (UTC) |
- I appreciate that--but I'm even stricter than you are: I think it's almost always a euphemism for "work"... Drmies (talk) 13:00, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I would like to be stricter, but encounter too much pushback from other editors. I think at most it should only be for unpaid, genuinely altruistic activity. As an example, and without wishing too be too cynical, far too many politicians are self-serving. And of course, we need to take into account that some reliable sources often still use the term for state sector jobs, military and politicians. Perhaps once it is removed from more business bios, we can start an RfC. Edwardx (talk) 14:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Edwardx, thanks--I thought I'd be careful, since I didn't want to butt heads with you after you sent me this nice message, but I agree with you completely. If you get paid, it's not service. If you get underpaid, it might approach service--but if you are underpaid and still make a fair amount of money (like, for instance, as president of the US), "service" is a bit of a euphemism. As far as reliable sources go--yeah, but in "serve as president" the operational part is "president", not "serve". I teach at a state university: is this service? I like to think so, for various reasons, but it's ludicrous to pretty much equate that with philanthropy (another item we see in ALL those articles), as if it didn't come with a paycheck and possibly health insurance. No Christmas bonuses, of course. Drmies (talk) 16:16, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I would like to be stricter, but encounter too much pushback from other editors. I think at most it should only be for unpaid, genuinely altruistic activity. As an example, and without wishing too be too cynical, far too many politicians are self-serving. And of course, we need to take into account that some reliable sources often still use the term for state sector jobs, military and politicians. Perhaps once it is removed from more business bios, we can start an RfC. Edwardx (talk) 14:20, 16 January 2025 (UTC)