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I got this article to GA, and would like to improve it FA. Also the title "Pre-Turkish Anatolia and Turkish presence prior to 11th century Anatolian Seljuk invasion" is so obviously POV, it's funny (not to mention too long).] (]) 21:40, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::The article is curently reassesed. The way it got to GA, without the slightest notice, raises serious questions. A peer review can fix that. Also notice that wikipedia needs team spirit and the way you express wp:own and continuously instant revert damages your profile. For example in this case, it would be civilized to explain why this is according to you pov and funny before proceeding to instant revert.] (]) 21:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::I do not have the time to explain everything to you or summarize sources to you. If you do not have ], do not edit this article. First of all, "Turkish" is problematic before 19th century (eg: Kushner, 1997). I guess you did not notice the qualifiers such as "Seljuk Turks," instead of "Turkish people." Second of all "invasion"? Why not "conquest" or "colonization" or "Turkification." Again, my goal is to improve this article, but you are being disruptive, whether intentionally or not, since you seem to have not read one single thing about subject-matter. Start with Kushner, 1997. More informed edits and less edit wars on your part would make editing more cooperative. | |||
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:::You are welcome to request reassessment or peer review, but it seems like you are doing it to push your POV during edit wars, instead of waiting until the article has stabilized, like the ] page suggests. ] (]) 22:06, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::::Since you don't have time to discuss your edits, I'm afraid you are violating one of the five basics of wikipedia. By adding pov parts and using sarcastic comments as an excuse isn't a sound strategy. By the way reassessment is something completely diferrent than peer review, but it seems that you don't have the time to check for it either.] (]) 22:12, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:::::I am discussing my edits. But I do not have the time to summarize sources to you. ] (]) 22:15, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::::::I mean on the talk page. Especially multiple reverts need to be explained, as part of an ongoing content dispute. For example here, why Anatolia prior to the arrival of Turkish tribes (i.e. 11th c.), can't be labelled as pre-Turkish Anatolia.] (]) 22:24, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:::::::Then you are creating a subsection for one paragraph. I already explained that so many times. I already said Turkish is problematic before 19th century. And Anatolia did not become Turkish overnight after 11th century. "Before Seljuk incursions", or "Before Battle of Manzkiert" would be more accurate, but again, its a small paragraph for its own section, even tho I'm gonna expand it with few more sentences. ] (]) 22:31, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:::::::: ''Turkish people are problematic before 19th century?'' Seems you don't believe that even yourself since you extented that period back to the Bronze Age. By the way, because the article is about the Turkish people, the term pre-Turkish is essential. Both Slejuk incursions and Battle of Manzikert are wrong, since, according to what you claim... ''Anatolia did not become Turkish overnight'' and Seljuks weren't the only Turkic tribes settled in Anatolia in the 11th century. To sum up "Pre Turkish period" Anatolia is important to be clearly termed as such when we talk about the pre-11th century history of the region.] (]) 22:48, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:::::::::Just cause they are mentioned does not mean they are 100% Turkish in the modern sense. ] mentions Celts and Gauls (]). Does not necessarily mean Celts and Gauls are French. Or just cause ] mentions ] people there, does not necessarily mean those people were British. It's there cause it's relevant to subject-matter. ] (]) 22:59, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::::::::::Why are French/British relevant with the Turks? Look at the Germans... no word about pre-Germanic tribes, same stuff about Russians, Serbs, no pre-Slavic scenarios, Albanians the same, etc etc.] (]) 23:16, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:::::Off course, France before the arrival of the Franks, was pre-Frankish, same with Britain (pre-Norman, or Saxon). Why not a pre-Turkish (Turkic) Anatolia?] (]) 23:20, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
Interesting the latest developments to this article, some users would like to change the name to Byzantines claiming that there is no connection to Greeks and placing POV tags. The same users have been reverted lately various times due to POV pushing. Thanks for your latest additions though. ] (]) 18:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::::Go change ] to "pre-British" then if that makes sense to you. It is just as nonsensical as your title to me.] (]) 23:24, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Did I said that? Nope, I said pre-Norman, pre-Saxon Britain, same as pre-Turkish in Anatolia (a region before the arrival of a specific population).] (]) 23:35, 7 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:It's not relevant with the specific biography, a Romanian name will be ok since he lived in Romania. But since you added an Albanian name on Zappas recently you need to explain the reasion for this.] (]) 20:10, 9 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::Hmmm. Doesn't look like. First, the village where he was born is in Albania. Second, he is respected a lot in the region, and his monument is there. Third, he contributed in building churches and schools in the are, some of them are still there. Fourth, his kin still lives in Lobovo area and they bear the last name Zhapa. Some of them fell in WW2 and are communist heroes. Fifth, regardless of some might think, he is not unknown in Albania. There is an recent official request from Lunxheri region organization to the president of Albania to to give him honorific title for the contributions given. | |||
::And even if you take good care of the articles, you are not the owner of them. You can easily send a message before reverting other people's work.] (]) 20:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
:::Actually in wikipedia we have some rules, one of them is ]. This means what you claim should be fist supported be neutral reliable widely accepted material. According to references already present in the article: 1. He was born an ethnic Greek in Ottoman Empire, 2. Off course he is respected in his region as well as among the Greeks in Greece, 3. He contributed to the establishment of Greek churches and Greek Orthodox Churches, Institutions for the benefit of the Greek state and the Greek communities in the Ottoman Empire (i.e. his region too), 4. The Zappas foundation, established by himself in Athens has taken action to protect his personal property today, however the Albanian authorities raise multiple issues to prevent that, 5. His testament doesn't even mention the word 'Albanian' or a similar word. Also his tombstone in Labovo isn't written in Albanian but in Greek (it lies broken next to the village center). | |||
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On the other hand he was quite stubborn Greek patriot (based on his writings). The only fact that historically links him with Albanian people could be that he was arrested by Ali Pasha's troops, before the Greek War of Independence. | |||
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:All the tombs of that period, not only in Labovo but throughout Albania for people with Orthodox religion were written in Greek. As by a Sultan Law, sponsored by Greek Church, any writing in Albanian language was a felony. See what happened to Koto Hoxhi, Pandeli Sotiri, Kristo Negovani, Stath Melani, Petro Luarasi, etc. This does not have anything to do with the fact that his people are still living in Labovo with the last name Zhapa and not Zappas. Go and ask them what nationality they are. Ali Pasha was an Ottoman Pasha, he presented the Empire adinistration, not any Albanian state, neither Albanian people. | |||
:And I don't care if he claimed himself Greek. Armenian, or Bengali, everyone can claim himself as he likes. This does not have anything to do with the Albanian version of his name. Vangjel Dule is Greek, even his last name is not. | |||
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I don't like reverting the work of the others, and I did not revert your changes, but each one should show some respect for the work of the others, and each one that wants to make changes can happily read the references first and read the article after he changes something. | |||
*First, the short sentences that resulted after your edit do not fit any kind of journalistic standard, and some really odd in English. Its like translating something without adjusting or revising it. | |||
*Second, the sentence you added does not have any added value. "...most of the population spoke Albanian..." - does not mean anything. All the population spoke Albanian, this does not mean they had Albanian national conscience, as well as all the schools and church services were only in Greek, so many of them spoke Greek, this does not mean they had Greek national conscience. | |||
<br>Just don't rush when you make changes, take time to read the article after you change it. | |||
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:The citation you used claims that most of the local women that period spoke Albanian, so I rephrased it and concluded that most the population spoke Albanian (adjusting the initial part). But I will take a second look at this paper of De_Rapper.] (]) 13:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
::I've already checked the entire document and I have the feeling that a couple of correction are needed, concerning the social status of the region.] (]) 14:49, 16 September 2013 (UTC) | |||
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The source for the movements in this map is a self-published book by an author for whom no credentials can be found. There's an earlier discussion at ]. I've removed it from the articles. Sorry, but I can't see anyway we can use a self-published work by someone who is not a recognised expert for this. ] (]) 12:28, 16 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:::Why self-published? The publisher of this book , is the Oxford University Press. I don't see any problem with the specific publishing house, on the contrary, it seems fine (...Oxford's Atlas of World History is the result of more than three years' intensive work by a specialist team of academics, editors, and cartographers...). | |||
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By the way I don't see any previous discussion at ], related with the specific publishing house.] (]) 12:48, 16 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Eleni Foureira == | |||
It seems that the source is indeed one of the best we can have in the field of historical chartography, the general editor Patrick K. O'Brien, is an expert on the field (Uni. London, hist.dpt.).] (]) 12:57, 16 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
I know you've edited on the ] article about how she is Greek not Albanian, but now I have an editor misunderstanding policy and trying to tell me policy says she is Albanian. Just was wondering if you could back me up in explaining this since I see your comments on the talk page explaining how policy shows she should be looked at as Greek. ] }</b>]] 18:42, 18 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
::I've removed the dubious source (iUniversity, M.Robbins) which I used as additional material. Nevertheless, all data is already taken from Oxford Atlas, in page 35.] (]) 13:04, 16 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Never mind, it's been cleared up. But the vandalism problem on Foureira's article regarding her nationality is still a major issue. ] }</b>]] 18:50, 18 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
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:::But if you used Robbins as a source, what have you changed on the map? ] (]) 13:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
Καλησπέρα, | |||
::::I've added Robbins as an additional source, but unfortunatelly I didn't checked him in every detail and in fact just by searching some details about the Fall of Troy and the Hittite Empire it even contradict Oxford's Atlas map itself. | |||
Γιατί η αλλαγή; Από την Αλβανία είναι η κοπέλα, και η ίδια πήγε τώρα στην Αλβανία και είπε "Είμαι περήφανη που είμαι Αλβανίδα". ] (]) 21:18, 24 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
Δεν βλέπω γιατί αυτό και μόνο μπορεί να επηρεάσει την εθνικότητα του προσώπου.] (]) 11:19, 25 December 2019 (UTC) | |||
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:Alexikoua, there has been a new check made, and close paraphrasing/copyvio issues still persist. Please see the nomination page, and note that this is one example; you'll need to check for others as well. Thanks. ] (]) 18:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
::An additional check was made, and I'm afraid there is still close paraphrasing in the article. It's important that you deal with it all, and do so soon. Thank you. ] (]) 14:30, 29 April 2020 (UTC) | |||
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Can you remove the tag you added since you put it without reading Yardumian et al., and I posted a lengthy quote to article talk page as a courtesy? Also your claim of "since it contradicts mainstream bibliography" seems to be unsubstantiated, since Cavalli-Sforza cannot be more mainstream (and quotes from that source had already been provided). Please utilize talk page discussions before putting false tags. Thanks... ] <sup>]</sup> 20:35, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:Sure, but the sentence needs to be adjusted per quote you added, i.e. Indoeuropean populations should be also included, since they arrived after the neolitic in Anatolia. The present version ignores this population group.] (]) 21:00, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::Proto-Indo-Europeans arrived in late paleolithic or early neolithic and indo-europeans come from that. This is my point with false tags. You tag without reading the source, or understanding the source. This is disruptive. Also, Indo-Europeans are not even in the text you tagged: "The area now called Turkey has been inhabited since the paleolithic, including various Ancient Anatolian civilizations during the neolithic period and peoples of Thrace. Modern Turkish people descend from these indigenous groups," ] <sup>]</sup> 21:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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:::I don't thing that when a quote is needed this is disruptive, actually you have been instructed to provide such data. By the way your tone continues to be aggresive with a complete lack of wp:agf.] (]) 21:23, 22 October 2013 (UTC) | |||
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I just wanted to pay your attention to this and this statistics . This editor ({{u|Rolandi+}}) argued about the difference between Bua and Buia although sources like this ({{cite book|author=Institutul de Istorie și Arheologie "A.D. Xenopol."|title=Anuarul Institutului de Istorie și Arheologie "A.D. Xenopol."|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=N-vTAAAAMAAJ|year=1987|publisher=... Familiei Buia (Bua)...}}) say they are the same. All the best.--] (]) 11:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
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:Simply nonsense. Rolandi +sockfarm are just short-term drive by SPAs.] (]) 13:43, 31 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
I am a producer based in Boston and I am working on a film about Ottoman Palestine. I think you might have uploaded some postcards from the Young Turk | |||
Revolution on some wiki pages and I am interested in acquiring high resolution scans of some of them from you or from the owner. I believe they are all public domain, but the quality from the wiki page is too low. I would appreciate if you could get back to me about this and I can email you the images Im interested in. | |||
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What is disruptive about my edit please? My edit is a fair summary about what has been discovered on the issue so far, and what reflects the actual state of things in view of Albanian vocabulary. The content of the section in question, as it is at the present state, is misleading to say at least, and does not give an accurate picture of modern Albanian lexicon. Do you delete also referenced material? Based on what? thank you Etimo (talk) 13:05, 14 December 2013 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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What you added is completely unsourced and had to be removed. I suggest you present the relevant bibliography with the appropriate explanations in the correspodent talkpage.] (]) 19:08, 14 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Reverting of my edits to Markos Botsaris article == | |||
Well, you removed everything from my edit, even the sourced part (did you check?). Secondly, my edit is a simple conclusion drawn by taking into account what has been written by scholars so far on the issue compared with what Albanian vocabulary displays. It is a common practice on Misplaced Pages you can observe in every article (i.e. not every article line in Wiki has a quote). I wasn't quoting directly this or that author, I'm simply summarizing a thought, what is the current state of knowledge considering everything that's been said and written on the issue. Every people can check in an Albanian dictionary whether it is true or not. No scholar has ever stated that Albanian glossary for sea and navigation is ''completely'' inexistent, simply because that would be embarrassing. It is relatively poorer because (as it is maintained by most serious scholars) Proto-Albanians were forced to live in the hinterland drawn away from the coasts by Latin invasion. This is something backed also by Albanian toponymy. The article, as it is now, gives a deviating impression as if a 'mountainous' or 'nordic' origin of Albanians is a 100% solved and closed issue, while nothing certain can be said or has ever been said to be definitive. Orel, for instance, maintains an inland origin but he cannot avoid to state that Albanian-Greek isoglosses are, quote: 'surprisingly high, which can be probably explained by intense secondary contacts of two proto-dialects' (A Concise Historical Grammar of the Albanian language, V.Orel, Koninklijke Brill, Leiden Boston Köln 2000, p.258), something you inexplicably decided to delete!! So just for clearness sake, what kind of proof is good and what is not? Am I allowed only to insert direct quotes from authors or can I also write based on scholar research without constantly quoting this or that author? thanks ] (]) 20:43, 14 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
::Some of the unsourced text you added seems completely out of the historical context of the article: ''Proto-Albanians were pushed away from coastal areas in early times (probably after the Latin conquest of the region)''. Orel's work is a reconstruction attempt by a non-attested language (proto-Albanian). This can be briefly mentioned, provided it's properly cited.] (]) 22:10, 14 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
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Why is it 'completely out of historical context', what do you mean exactly by that? I think it's pretty much relevant. No Proto-language is an attested language, as they are ALL reconstructed, and Orel specifically points to 'intense contacts between Greek and Albanian', as the vocabulary clearly shows. Linguistic contacts or isoglosses are something which can be proven without misunderstandings. I will rewrite my edit on the Latin influence part with proper quotations, but It still puzzles me why you don't accept Orel's direct quotation!!! thanks ] (]) 12:11, 15 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
in regards to the addition of the name in Albanian language at the Markos Botsaris article lead section, I consider it is within Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines but, still I shall review again the policies as per your suggestion and I would kindly like to discuss with you back again. | |||
::I've said it can be briefly mentioned, but the fully unsourced part can't.] (]) 12:37, 15 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
In regards to the "The Greek–Albanian dictionary" section of the same article, there it is mentioned (third sentence): "''...not in alphabetical order, and the Albanian words on the right, written in Greek letters.''" | |||
I've got that part, I don't understand your problem with Orel's quotation!! ] (]) 23:31, 15 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
My edit was to remove the part "''written in Greek letters''". As I wrote to my explanation of the edit, in the Albanian part of the manuscript you can find the letter "ë" which is not part of the Greek alphabet but rather part of Albanian alphabet. So definitely the Albanian part is not written in Greek letters; such consideration is not supported and should be removed from the article. Or at least it should be re-written correctly clarifying that only the Greek part of the manuscript is written in Greek letters. | |||
Could you please kindly explain your revert of my edit at this part? | |||
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Ill double check. I didn't edit anything on AM, and only modified parts on Roman & medieval history of modern Macedonians. But thanks for the heads up ] (]) 21:54, 12 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
:: well, actually, early Byzantine is still the "Roman" period. Granted, I also added that Armenians and others were settled also in northern Macedonia in later periods, but I seriously don't think this is controversial or objectionable by any parties . Anyhow I ll keep an eye on it , Alexi] (]) 00:31, 13 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::And why did you revert my edit to Peloponesse ? The Peloponesse (to my knowledge) hat has nothing to do with Arbmac, nor Macedonians in any meaning of the word ("other articles on Greece not related to said dispute are fine"), and in anyway I added that whatever Slavic migrations occurred were of a later date, less intense, Christianity continued to flourish, & Greek spoken etc , etc. (perhaps, counter what you might expect a Yugoslav to write!). So i reverted back your blind revert ] (]) 08:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
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::You should read ], before initiating another endless edit-war i.e. ''Topics related to the Balkans, broadly interpreted.'' In case you continue ignoring this you leave me no choice to go straight to wp:ae. By the way Slavic invasion in Morea occured in 6th-10th century AD, this isn't even early Byzantine period (not to think about to name it "Roman")...] (]) 11:39, 13 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::"before initiating another endless edit-war "- You must be hallucinating- It was resolved amicably; so how is it endless ? And, again, for your information the admins stated clearly "other articles on Greece not related to said dispute are fine". You should be showing gratitude for my impoving the Pelopnoesse article, not paranoia. Have nice day ] (]) 03:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::Waw, you just rendered arbmac completely useless... That's the restriction you should respect ] (the naming dispute is only a tiny part of your restriction). Please do not falsify admins comment again.] (]) 09:27, 15 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
:::::Just take a step back and be fair. The Illyrians have nothing to do with ARbmac, and fall between the palaeolithic and Roman era. If you want to keep your map, then you should update it to include some missing southern illyrians tribes, eg Dardani. And why are you 'threatened' ny me making good faith edits to Illyrians ? I can reassure you Im not making any claims that Maceodnians or Epirotes were really "Illyrians", so relax. ] (]) 09:24, 19 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
::::::Suppose you are still kidding me. What can you understand under the term 'pre-Roman period'? Off course its neither Roman nor Prehistory. By the way you are not the first user who under ARBMAC can't edit the Illyrians. In fact ''all ARBMAC banned users are prohibited to edit in this field''. So far you are the first who can't understand what's ARBMAC.] (]) | |||
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== Myzeqe == | |||
Thank you Alexikoua. Σας εύχομαι ευτυχισμένο το νέο έτος! | |||
== Greek revolt of 1567–1572 == | |||
I noticed myself that Molossians don't live in this region and I know that Muzaka is primary non-wp:rs material. I thought that there might be some basis for Muzaka's claim so carefully attributing this assertion to Muzaka and emphasizing he is not very reliable source. I was obviously wrong. Thanks for your input.--] (]) 20:24, 13 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
:Sorry if I was wrong with Greek language greeting. I don't speak Greek. Is actually Greek language message? It reminds me of messages frequently written by ]. who pointed to him as his previous accounts has similar userpage as .--] (]) 10:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC) | |||
Hi Alexi! Thanks for creating the article. I've made some copyedits and corrections to the references, and tagged a few spots that are unclear/problematic (unfortunately I don't have the time to go through the sources myself). Cheers, ] ] 09:07, 30 August 2020 (UTC) | |||
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What's wrong with changing the importance classification? Several cities are classified as TOP in WikiProject Albania and Vlorë is one of the top tier cities in Albania. The city has special importance because it is the city of the declaration of independence, the first capital of Albania, and represents a very important part of Albania ... so why not? The template is meant for the participants of WikiProject so I don't see whats your problem with that. | |||
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You can't translate {{tquote|The state represented by 'Kemara' in the list of hosts had two centres, Himarre andBorsh, both probably fortified, and farther north the Amantes hadstrong points at Kanine and at their political centre, Ploce.42 Inland,however, in central Epirus the only fortified places were in the plain ofIoannina, the centre of the Molossian state.Thus the north-west Greek-speaking tribes were at a half-way stage economically and politically, retaining the vigour of a tribal society andreaching out in a typically Greek manner towards a larger politicalorganization.}} to {{tquote|They spoke a northwestern Greek dialect.}} It's a SYNTH use of bibliography and ignores the bibliographical discussion by extrapolating the view of one particular author, whose theory is already being discussed in the article.--] (]) 00:28, 23 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
Thank you for your prompt and detailed reply, and for your offer to have a look at how the article might be improved. I appreciate it. Please let me know if there is an editor problem. ] (]) 17:17, 27 February 2014 (UTC) | |||
::It is clear that "the north-west Greek-speaking tribes" refer to the ones mentioned in the previous paragraph, i.e. Amantes were one of them.] (]) | |||
::::There is no ]. SYNTH involves combining two or more sources, by definition. Maleschreiber, your behavior is bordering on bad faith and harassment. This has to stop, and it will, one way or another. ] (]) 04:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
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The footnote of the source( copy pasted ) for ur convenience > Absent from the national territory (2 Jul 1924 - before 13 Nov 1924) and represented in Albania by mitropolit '''Theofan Stilian Noli (also known as Fan Noli)''' | |||
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You can take the burden and go to Labovë to ask people there if they are Albanians or Greek ! | |||
I personally know people with Labova ancestry and most of them are Albanians , some are Vllah's , none is Greek !! | |||
But what do you know ? You mention as "Greeks" the "Arvanites" which in your own language means "Albanian" | |||
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I don't think we will agree on any issue regarding the Albanians in your " Greek " history , so Adieu ... | |||
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Although it was written by Naim Frashëri, it was quoted and expanded on by Robert Elsie, a Canadian with no ties to Albania other than the studies he's done on the people, so he isn't biased. Perhaps if I also mention him, it's okay. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:54, 28 July 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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Elsie didn't specify that, he did specify that he is quoting Sami Frashëri however. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:15, 28 July 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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It's even worst: Elsie presents Frasheri's work, without adopting ''any view about it.'' I can only assume that you didn't read this work. Also note that blind-reverting can lead to blocks.] (]) 19:31, 28 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
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Elsie himself refers to the Janina Vilayet (all of it, not just the north) as an Albanian Land. I have read it. I did read it, I don't know what you're talking about. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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Now that I think about it, the opening to the atrocities section states “the heavy and rapid defeat of the Ottoman army prevented the safe evacuation of muslim civilians, making them a clear target for the invading armies of the Balkan League”, I think this alone clearly implies that the vast majority/almost all of the Ottoman muslim civilian deaths took place during the first Balkan war, or at least duirng the first war and interregnum between the First and second Balkan war ] (]) 00:34, 16 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, my edits on population exchange between greece and turkey are correct. I have read the book I sourced in the edit summary of the edit history. There is some NPOV and misinformation favoring Greece. I hope you agree the article must be neutral. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:52, 27 August 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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Hello. My name is Erion. I'm an American trying to do a research paper for my college regarding The Souliots and Marko Boçari, in early Balkans-war agains the Ottoman Empire. I just have one question: were the Souliots and Marko Boçari, Greek or Albanian? Thanks in advance. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:06, 28 November 2014 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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Hey what's wrong with you? you say that it is unsourced?! are you blind or something? lookup here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/search/?title=File:Pavao_Ritter_Vitezovic_-_Stemmatographia.pdf&page=28 this is the source from the book Stemmatographia by Pavao Ritter Vitezovic. | |||
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Interesting the latest developments to this article, some users would like to change the name to Byzantines claiming that there is no connection to Greeks and placing POV tags. The same users have been reverted lately various times due to POV pushing. Thanks for your latest additions though. Othon I (talk) 18:07, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
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Sarandaporo Medal Scan Copyright Status
Hello. I am trying to promote the Battle of Sarantaporo to GA, so I wanted to ask whether you scanned the actual medal or an image of it? If its the latter can you clarify the source?--Catlemur (talk) 19:32, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Eleni Foureira
I know you've edited on the Eleni Foureira article about how she is Greek not Albanian, but now I have an editor misunderstanding policy and trying to tell me policy says she is Albanian. Just was wondering if you could back me up in explaining this since I see your comments on the talk page explaining how policy shows she should be looked at as Greek. { } 18:42, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
- Never mind, it's been cleared up. But the vandalism problem on Foureira's article regarding her nationality is still a major issue. { } 18:50, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
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Καλησπέρα, Γιατί η αλλαγή; Από την Αλβανία είναι η κοπέλα, και η ίδια πήγε τώρα στην Αλβανία και είπε "Είμαι περήφανη που είμαι Αλβανίδα". Onoufrios d (talk) 21:18, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
Δεν βλέπω γιατί αυτό και μόνο μπορεί να επηρεάσει την εθνικότητα του προσώπου.Alexikoua (talk) 11:19, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
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- Alexikoua, there has been a new check made, and close paraphrasing/copyvio issues still persist. Please see the nomination page, and note that this is one example; you'll need to check for others as well. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
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I just wanted to pay your attention to this diff and this statistics link. This editor (Rolandi+) argued about the difference between Bua and Buia although sources like this (Institutul de Istorie și Arheologie "A.D. Xenopol." (1987). Anuarul Institutului de Istorie și Arheologie "A.D. Xenopol.". ... Familiei Buia (Bua)...) say they are the same. All the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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Reverting of my edits to Markos Botsaris article
Dear user:Alexikoua,
in regards to the addition of the name in Albanian language at the Markos Botsaris article lead section, I consider it is within Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines but, still I shall review again the policies as per your suggestion and I would kindly like to discuss with you back again.
In regards to the "The Greek–Albanian dictionary" section of the same article, there it is mentioned (third sentence): "...not in alphabetical order, and the Albanian words on the right, written in Greek letters." My edit was to remove the part "written in Greek letters". As I wrote to my explanation of the edit, in the Albanian part of the manuscript you can find the letter "ë" which is not part of the Greek alphabet but rather part of Albanian alphabet. So definitely the Albanian part is not written in Greek letters; such consideration is not supported and should be removed from the article. Or at least it should be re-written correctly clarifying that only the Greek part of the manuscript is written in Greek letters. Could you please kindly explain your revert of my edit at this part?
Thank You! Bcon4rit (talk) 09:56, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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Greek revolt of 1567–1572
Hi Alexi! Thanks for creating the article. I've made some copyedits and corrections to the references, and tagged a few spots that are unclear/problematic (unfortunately I don't have the time to go through the sources myself). Cheers, Constantine ✍ 09:07, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Constantine, good job.Alexikoua (talk) 07:47, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
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Talk Page: Vlorë
What's wrong with changing the importance classification? Several cities are classified as TOP in WikiProject Albania and Vlorë is one of the top tier cities in Albania. The city has special importance because it is the city of the declaration of independence, the first capital of Albania, and represents a very important part of Albania ... so why not? The template is meant for the participants of WikiProject so I don't see whats your problem with that.
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Doug Weller talk 14:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)Improper synthesis
You can't translate The state represented by 'Kemara' in the list of hosts had two centres, Himarre andBorsh, both probably fortified, and farther north the Amantes hadstrong points at Kanine and at their political centre, Ploce.42 Inland,however, in central Epirus the only fortified places were in the plain ofIoannina, the centre of the Molossian state.Thus the north-west Greek-speaking tribes were at a half-way stage economically and politically, retaining the vigour of a tribal society andreaching out in a typically Greek manner towards a larger politicalorganization.
to They spoke a northwestern Greek dialect.
It's a SYNTH use of bibliography and ignores the bibliographical discussion by extrapolating the view of one particular author, whose theory is already being discussed in the article.--Maleschreiber (talk) 00:28, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- It is clear that "the north-west Greek-speaking tribes" refer to the ones mentioned in the previous paragraph, i.e. Amantes were one of them.Alexikoua (talk)
- There is no WP:SYNTH. SYNTH involves combining two or more sources, by definition. Maleschreiber, your behavior is bordering on bad faith and harassment. This has to stop, and it will, one way or another. Khirurg (talk) 04:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- WP:SYNTH:
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If you're going to argue about SYNTH, make sure to quote it correctly. Alexikoua is inferring from the same source something that is not mentioned explicitly. They are also adding WP:UNDUE material because Hammond is already being discussed in the article. It is Hammond's opinion that this population was Greek-speaking and that is explicitly mentioned in Hammond (1989) (not in Hammond's chapter in the CAH), but Hammond who is in the minority can't be readded in wikivoice (with a wrong citation) in order to bypass every other source and imply that almost every source which was published after 1990 considers them to be Illyrians, but also accepts that they were Greek-speaking - Hammond's theory. It's a problem of methodology to repeatedly highlight the one particular author with whom you agree, but whose corpus of works was written 40-60 years ago and is considered outdated today because we have 6 other sources written in the 21st century which don't reach the same conclusions as well as many others from his era which disagree with him.
- WP:SYNTH:
- There is no WP:SYNTH. SYNTH involves combining two or more sources, by definition. Maleschreiber, your behavior is bordering on bad faith and harassment. This has to stop, and it will, one way or another. Khirurg (talk) 04:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- It is clear that "the north-west Greek-speaking tribes" refer to the ones mentioned in the previous paragraph, i.e. Amantes were one of them.Alexikoua (talk)
- I'm trying to highlight how editing should function in terms of how bibliographical discussions are presented, but if you think that this is "harrassment", do what feels best for you and file a report and then everyone's editing history will be scrutinized. I think that everyone's activity should be discussed on AE, the administration board which has really improved the Balkan topic area with its decisions.--Maleschreiber (talk) 14:18, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- Did you read the part about combining multiple sources? Now cut it out with the WP:BULLYING and WP:HARASSMENT or you will end up defending yourself at AE. Khirurg (talk) 16:57, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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Your edit today included a quote from a book by N.G.L. Hammond. The quote included misspellings and an odd system of spacing and punctuation. Does the quoted material appear this way in the book? Jellysandwich0 (talk) 17:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hello Alexikoua. Can I call you Alex? Alexi? Anyway, I'm here to bring to your attention that this DYK hook about a temple probably inspiring the design of India's Parliament House, which you reviewed in 2015, might not have been accurately cited. I've listed out my concerns at Parliament House's talk page. I hope you'll have a look at them. Cheers and kind regards, Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI 07:09, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, off course. I'm looking at the July 2015 version ] now, but unfortunately one of the correspodent inlines appears now unavailable.~. ].Alexikoua (talk) 10:03, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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- That's a good reason to fix the order per chronological sequence. Good catch!Alexikoua (talk) 21:55, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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May I know how do the sources provided fail wp:HISTRS ? Zemertrimi (talk) 11:15, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
The reference you provided avoid to present their bibliography. That's a strong point for a work to fail wp:RS.Alexikoua (talk) 21:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
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Hi Alexikoua, it 's been too long since we last met in WP. I am happy to see that you are still active. So, might I ask a favour? Article on EOKA is pretty good. It has some major drawbacks, but with little work, it could became a Good Article. How nice would be that? My understanding is that it needs an introduction (that s where I need your help- could you do it? I could try but I feel most editors think I am biased) Other drawbacks is the undue weight on section of "Foreign Office declassified documents and EOKA lawsuits against the British government". (this can be solved with a little goodwill) Also, the Legacy and Aftermath sections need expanding but I didn't find a real RS (I mean academic work that discuss the effect EOKA struggle had on Cypurs -TC, GC, leftists- or on global scale). That 's the biggest obstacle. Otherwise, we are close enough to getting GA status. Cheers! Cinadon36 07:45, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- That's great news to hear! It will be a pleasure to contribute together to upgrade it to GA. I'm already checking those issues.Alexikoua (talk) 08:08, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
- Great, thanx! Cinadon36 08:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
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I don't understand that edit summary. You are welcome to discuss the matter on the talk page or at WP:RSN. Drmies (talk) 17:49, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- Allow me if I may: I think it's a typo, he probably meant to say, "I don't see why...". Khirurg (talk) 17:55, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- Excactly.Alexikoua (talk) 18:14, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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Now that I think about it, the opening to the atrocities section states “the heavy and rapid defeat of the Ottoman army prevented the safe evacuation of muslim civilians, making them a clear target for the invading armies of the Balkan League”, I think this alone clearly implies that the vast majority/almost all of the Ottoman muslim civilian deaths took place during the first Balkan war, or at least duirng the first war and interregnum between the First and second Balkan war SamuelLion1877 (talk) 00:34, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
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You are an old editor here. Why are you ignoring the basic guidelines and behaving in nationalistic manner? This Illyrian maximalism lunacy by ignoring all available research has to stop.Alexikoua (talk) 12:33, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
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