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== Chris Antonopoulos (footballer) and Fort Lauderdale Strikers ==
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] and numerous ] related articles, which Antonopoulos appears to have been a player for, have been edited by ]. The user seems to be Antonopoulos and received a notice to disclose their conflict of interest on December 4 by @]. The user did not respond and does not appear to have made an effort to disclose a conflict of interest as they are required to. The user also created the Antonopoulos article and is responsible for the majority of the content added to it. The only indication the user appears to have made to disclose their potential conflict of interest was to write "Chris Antonopoulos" on their user page. ] (]) 07:30, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


:I've removed a lot of unsourced material from the Antonopoulos article, but clearly the problems here extend rather further than that. ] (]) 15:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
== G2003 ==
::The user has now denied on their talk page that they are Antonopoulos. It must be admitted, however, that they appear to be a ] dedicated solely to promoting Antonopoulos and mentioning him on as many articles as possible.
::It seems unclear whether the user has a COI or is just a fan who is unaware of the policies on sourcing and promotion.
::Any thoughts on whether Antonopoulos satisfies ] and whether detailed info on beach soccer activities is usually considered suitable for inclusion? ] (]) 15:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::It seems unlikely that they would be so obsessed with Antonopoulos if they were not either him or someone closely associated with him, and their response is quite odd. There does appear to be a Chris Antonopoulos who signed a professional contract with the Fort Lauderdale Strikers, and to me that satisfies notability as the beach soccer and pre-professional soccer contract section of his career would not make Antonopoulos notable enough to have an article alone. It is of note that Antonopoulos does not appear to have been the primary goalkeeper during his tenure and that the primary goalkeepers were Jorge Valenzuela, Mario Jimenez, and ] at this time. It appears Antonopoulos only made two appearances between 1993 and 1994 which is when he was apparently signed to the team. From the perspective of someone who was not directly involved with the Strikers but would want to write about them, Valenzuela and Jimenez would probably be higher on the priority list than a goalkeeper who only made two appearances. The only parts about Antonopoulos in the article that are specific to him are praising his accomplishments. ] (]) 22:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Agreed 100%. ] (]) 22:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Additionally, the appear to indicate that whoever is writing the article had close connections with Antonopoulos throughout his career if they in fact have the right to upload them. ] (]) 23:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::The user continues to obsess over this article and to add large amounts of trivial non-encyclopaedic detail and generally promotional material. Are we really sure that the subject satisfies ]? ] (]) 00:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::I generally go by pro athletes being notable enough to have an article, but Antonopoulos appears to have barely been a pro athlete, and like I brought up with the writer before they accused me of acting uncivil, it would make more sense to write articles about Antonopoulos' teammates. I'm not in favor of having an article on Misplaced Pages who's express purpose is to promote someone, even if they may meet the requirement of general notability. This is the first time I've dealt with an issue like this, so I apologize if I am not understanding things correctly as to what makes someone notable enough. ] (]) 01:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Article is notable. And I deem there's a consensus to proceed with option #1 - tag the 2 pages. ] (]) 22:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


== Marc Jorgenson ==
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G2003 hasn't come clean as a '''paid editor''' per agreement at ANI (see ]). Background: has been active for years now. of COI in early 2013 and in mid 2014 then in late 2014 with a promise to stop. Never explicitly enumerated paid connection(s). My investigation of articles edited shows big discrepancy between declared COI and the remainder. ] (]) 16:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

:Seems pretty clear that they are a paid editor, and yet they've failed to actually disclose it properly, and are continuing to do it despite claiming to have stopped. Saying "I've been paid to maintain this article" is insufficient, the Terms of Use specifically require that the client who paid them is disclosed. ] (]) 16:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::To be completely clear, his October 2014 promise was to stop ''paid advertising''. Not sure what that's even supposed to mean in terms of our COI policy; is it paid advocacy? Is a advertising? — ] (]) 17:12, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
:::They have not done much editing lately. This is a concern though . Maybe a block until issues can be clarified would be useful. ] (] · ] · ]) 17:54, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' block proposed by {{ping|Doc James}}. Tagged ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] with COI notices. The others seem to have had a reasonable amount of non-COI input from other editors, else were already tagged. — ] (]) 18:32, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::Added some COI-ful userspace drafts to watch in case of future shenanigans. — ] (]) 18:43, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::'''Support block''', at least until they're willing to disclose properly, and IMO should be longer than that. Undisclosed paid editing is not acceptable, and undisclosed paid editing after apparently claiming that you'd stop it is even worse. ] (]) 18:36, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::::::Tagging ] on the article page flags a moot issue. It's been almost a year since G2003 edited that article, and that dispute, which went all the way to litigation, has since been resolved. I'd suggest taking the COI notices off articles where the edit wasn't recent and has since been undone. ] (]) 18:43, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::::Undid ] COI notice, thanks for seeing that. What else do you suggest? — ] (]) 19:06, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Also useful to note that there are numerous article that G2003 created that were subsequently deleted for failing a range of guidelines and policies (admins can take a look at their long list of deleted contributions). One deleted article was a hoax, although it does appear that G2003 himself was hoaxed (the subject also managed to get similar stuff onto Fox News Asia's site) rather than him having any malicious intent – however it does show the perils of such an approach. ] ]] 15:20, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
:Did we get anywhere with sorting this out? Doesn't look like we did. ] (]) 00:28, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
::Doesn't look like it to me either. '''Support block''', obviously. — ] (]) 01:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Blocked. ] 05:29, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

== EBY3221 ==


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Blatantly promotional article and severe failure of ] with puffery removed by users before. 3 single-purpose accounts as well as 3 IPs of close proximity have edited the article in around 2008. There definitely is signs of paid editing or people connected with subject editing the article, so a block of these users and IPs should suffice alongside the deletion of the article. <span style="font-family: Georgia; background-color: coral; padding: 2px 3px 1px 3px;">] ]</span> 06:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
If there is doubt, then there is NO doubt. I have no doubt this is undisclosed, paid editing. Top three entries -- CEOs, credit loan companies should be convincing enough. ] (]) 23:45, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
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== Ilyas El Maliki ==
{{Administrator note}} User has rollback, pending changes rights as of now. — ] (]) 23:55, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
:I've noticed that they've been creating all these articles as drafts (which is the correct thing for COI/paid editors to do), but then accepting them all themselves, so on the article talkpages it says "accepted via AfC"- this seems pretty odd and dodgy to me, never seen it before. ] (]) 00:01, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
::And posting the "article accepted" notices to his own userpage . Beyond dodgy. ] (]) 00:12, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Actually if you use the AFCH script to accept articles, it automatically sends a notification to the submitter. But I cannot see a legitimate user doing that, most editors with 7 years experience would just create articles rather than using a draft process. ] (]) 00:18, 9 July 2015 (UTC)


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:"If there is doubt, then there is NO doubt"? Wow. Because there's a pattern? But nothing ACTUALLY ]?!
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I think the two users are the same person and probably work for El Maliki to write the article. ]] 22:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


:The photo of El Maliki was uploaded by ] ]] 22:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:I'm sitting gobsmacked. How do I respond? I've been on Misplaced Pages for 8 years. I've donated thousands of hours of my life. NOT PAID. Teahouse, articles for creation, 3O. Logged in, not logged in. I spent two weeks trying to fix that ] article a few years ago.


::See ]. --] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 13:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:This list of articles (all the ones I've written in the last 2 years?) are great!! I wrote them with neutrality and a mature understanding of Misplaced Pages policies. Show me where I didn't.


== Lindy Li ==
:Take away the charity articles because I do hunt for charities to write pages for - I gave up fighting the ] battle a few years ago and decided the best way to fight his horde of followers was to fill Misplaced Pages with other charities. Take away the topical stuff (Roskopf was on the cover of the newspaper magazine a few weeks ago, Hatmaker's blog is viral). You can quickly figure out my IRL. Yes, mention that Misplaced Pages is your hobby once and it's all over. I've been in my boss' office and had him run in a person and say I'm a Misplaced Pages editor like I'm royalty. People immediately ask if they are notable enough for an article. If they are, they want one. We all know this. I always warn them, "You may hate it and once it is up, it won't come down. I only write what conforms to ] and you don't get a say." My boss has NEVER pressured me to write them, always says I have to follow the rules, and the closest he's come to paying me for Misplaced Pages articles is a signed copy of a book after the fact.

:I just spent an hour editing ] because it was obviously written by a PR rep and was completely peacock. You asking if I have a COI with some of these? Yes - some of these people I've met, some of these people I admire. But I have written every article with a Chinese Wall and always adhered to the same pillars that I teach other new editors. BECAUSE I AM ABOUT THE ETHICS. Go back through my editing history, though much of it isn't signed in the rest tells you who I am.

:I am going to say this, ], directly to ''you'' although it bends Misplaced Pages's policy against personal attack. Listing articles as though CEO's or credit companies or marketing companies naturally shouldn't be in Misplaced Pages so of course they MUST be PR? This is one of the underrepresented sectors here and one that suffers prejudice (ahem). I will go make a COI statement on my page to the extent of the people I have met who I have written about. I probably should have done that but I am not sure when - frankly, and I was thinking about this with the Ken Sunshine thing, where COI starts is an issue for most of us at Misplaced Pages. We write about our interests and often they intersect with our real lives. Sunshine's people are paid PR people who sit in cubbies and try to bend Misplaced Pages to their client's will. But the rest of us do not have that clarity. Once I am done being outraged, this is somewhere I should probably volunteer. Misplaced Pages deserves SO much better than a page like this. If we want the encyclopedia to keep growing with good articles - we need a way to acknowledge that all of us write what we know, who we know, write what we love, and get more from it beyond the altruistic. Gratitude and acknowledgement to a copy of a book in thanks afterwards. This is not BAD - encouragement in many forms is what keeps all of us here. It may not cut down on the 1000 deletions/day but it may boost the volume of good articles.] (]) 01:22, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

:* I just saw a comment about how I write articles. Seriously? That IS a personal attack. I had the draft page as a bookmark and I like the draft page because it allows me to make all my mistakes without being live and it doesn't force me to do the coding and moving, which I suck at (see all the dangling archives and drafts I've left over the years). I can't be the only one who likes using this system? I used to wait for someone else to approve my articles for publication but as a one of the actual approvers, I realized a while back that I was adding to that backlog and could just publish it and then wait for it to be patrolled - which is a similar process. I did try to write an article live recently and screwed it up by putting an erroneous "S" in the name.

::*This morning, I am looking again at this list and shaking my head at all of you. You made erroneous allegations and assumptions and have no narrative at all stating how these articles are PR. Mike Mohr is not an executive - there's award named after him at MIT, he was a teacher who died (I am not associated with MIT) but I was never sure he met notability. Likewise Howard Sweeney, a doctor who is the former father in law of someone I knew in college. My child really loves Gulla Gulla island. (A MAYBE, REALLY?) John Rennie is an architect I got interested in doing an article on an Australian landmark. David Savage is an artist, he wrote this gorgeous book that was on my friend's coffee table. Jen Hatmaker is a Christian motivational speaker who has a viral blog I've read. Brad Walker wrote a book that physical therapists like to give patients. Benita Refson started a charity that the Duchess of Cambridge made famous. I am so deeply disappointed in this process - why me? Who ARE you people? How did you decide that the pantheon of my interests somehow is questionable? There's nothing in these articles. There's nothing in my behavior. In fact, 80% of my article touches remove puff - and I do it ALL by hand with 20 tabs of refs open. How many tags have I left because of questionable refs and tone? I've been a champion for neutrality. GO LOOK. I happen to work in an industry that brings notable people to my attention who don't have articles. SO I WRITE THEM. Like the guy who wrote most of the Hawaiian ukelele articles. 90% of these people don't know who I am but I am willing to bet all the ukelele players knew that other guy. No one here has made a single example of how my articles are bad, just because I wrote some about these entrepreneurs who wrote books you've put me on a witch hunt. Look, I get the problem of paid PR people damaging articles with slant and puff but what are the rules you live by as you fight that? Doesn't there actually have to be PUFF and SLANT and someone who damages articles?

: There has to be a better way than saying "I don't like the pattern of the articles you write, therefore I suspect you and everything you've done." That's just not Misplaced Pages.] (]) 16:21, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
::Short reply because I don't want to come across as emotional about this, but you have expressed conditions under which you definitely have a conflict. You're writing about people you know professionally. Your boss lauds you for it. You said (I think) that you receive gifts in return. Your editing history is singularly focused on attention-seeking people, whose own careers benefit from the attention you provide them. It looked indistinguishable from paid COI to me (see ] for a clearly parallel case) and we investigate this sort of stuff day after day, '''as is appropriate'''. One additional thing: I write sometimes about authors who probably benefit from attention, and I write sometimes about rocks that don't care if they get attention (my history is also transparently documented at my userpage). But if all I wrote about was attention-seeking people, and never about rocks, it wouldn't be surprising to me if some other editor confronted me about it and at least asked the question "why"? I'll be on wikibreak starting tonight, so others here can comment on their perspective on this and continue the conversation if need be. — ] (]) 18:41, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

I haven't looked into this in great detail yet, but from the few articles I have looked at I agree with Brianhe that there are reasons to be concerned. Take for example these diffs of my removals of content EBY3221 added: . The sourcing of the content was extremely poor, completely failing ] and was also promotional. I've also noticed unsourced BLP content e.g. which also makes me concerned as it raises the question of where the information came from. It's also odd that was uploaded only 3 days after it was as it suggests that EBY3221 was in contact with the subject. {{ping|EBY3221}} can you please explain these edits? Thanks ] (]) 16:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
:Likewise, see ] by another user claiming authorship, that EBY3221 ]. And again with ] . ] (]) 16:23, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
::I'm only finding more problems. See of my edits starting to clean up ]. Huge chunks of text were referenced to sources which didn't even mention him! If this is typical there is a lot of clean up to do. ] (]) 17:21, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

* This is self-evident promotional abuse, I have blocked the account for now. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 23:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

**{{ping|JzG}} Thanks. Given the lack of communication and the amount of ] I've found so far there didn't seem to be any other option. ] (]) 21:27, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

::*An IP has admitted to being the user and a paid editor - note they've used 2 IPs to ]. ] (]) 11:33, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

:::{{ping|JzG}} {{ping|Joseph2302}} Yeah, thanks. {{ping|EBY3221}}: Edits that introduce undisclosed paid advocacy, are illegal in the USA. Keeping the content you contributed, given how obvious it is that it's largely the result of UPAE would be aiding and abetting. So unless you can identify, article by article, what is paid and what isn't, we will need to err on the side of caution and delete most of it. Jimbo himself has said that "FTC 16 CFR Part 255 is relevant" to showing that "PAE (Paid Advocacy Editing) is flat out illegal." --]<sup>(]•])</sup> 16:57, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
{{outdent}}Could the rollbacker and reviewer rights userboxes be removed from the userpage? ] (]) 23:56, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
:{{done}} ] (]) 16:23, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

== Justin Lafazan ==


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MMSS4S has written nothing but promotion.<br>
Justin Lafazan started Millennial Marketing Strategy and Students4Students College Advisory. MMS and S4S. When put together that makes MMSS4S.<br>
Much of the text of ] comes from the subjects own website. The image used comes from Lafazans website and MMSS4S says xe is the copyright holder.<br>
] and ] are both fully formed advert obviously created by a shill.<br>
Pics of Scott Duffy and Greg S. Reid are promo shots with copyright owned by MMSS4S. Both subjects have had previous spam on here from socking shills. The Reid photo comes from the same shoot as a photo on Reid's facebook page. The Duffy photo appears on his copyrighted website and comes from the same shoot as one that may have been on the previous article which was created by a sock of ], this photo.<br>
Lafazan, Sutton and Reid are all connect through The Umbrella Syndicate. ] (]) 12:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
:Justin Lafazan advertises a Misplaced Pages Package for $1000!!! . ] (]) 11:36, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
::The "Zachary Barden Bio Draft" inexplicably contains material from the deleted article on Justin Lafazan. {{ping|Duffbeerforme}} It's obvious that MMSS4S has violated the TOU, and the link you found on his website is enough for me. However, I'm not seeing the relationship with Sibtain 007 that could justify the G5 placed on Randy Sutton. The CU on the SPI is inconclusive, what behavioral evidence is there? The photograph? <span style="color:red; font-size: smaller; font-weight: bold;">§]</span><sup>]</sup> 19:04, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
:::If this part of his bio is true then he might become notable for an ] lawsuit: "Over 30 employees and contractors support the growth of MMS - with the oldest employee age 22." ] (]) 23:31, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
::Jeez. Reporting the trademark violation to WMF. ] (]) 21:07, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
:::{{U|MMSS4S}} is a confirmed sock/master as of less than 24 hours ago. Their edit history is suggestive of something going on at other articles like ] and that leads me to ] via one intermediate editor. I'm going to take a break from COIN for a bit, so another ed. can have at it, if you're interested. — ] (]) 20:36, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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* {{la|Westfield Garden State Plaza}} - cleaned - OK enough ] (]) 23:56, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Old Orchard}} - cleaned - OK enough ] (]) 23:56, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Palm Desert}} - nom for speedy
* {{la|Westfield Plaza Bonita}} - up for AfD by Joseph ] ] (]) 01:25, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield San Francisco Centre}} -- PRODed . PROD removed. just tagged unsourced/undersourced ] (]) 07:25, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Santa Anita}} - proded, removed, cleaned enough. '''consider for group AfD''' ] (]) 01:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Sarasota Square}} - clean enough. ] (]) 00:04, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Oakridge}} - cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:18, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield South Shore}} - cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:18, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield North County}} - could '''not''' fully clean ] (])
* {{la|Westfield Montgomery}} - cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:18, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Southcenter}} - cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:40, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Southgate}}- cleaned, good enough ] (]) 00:40, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Mission Valley}} - AfDed by Joseph ]
* {{la|Westfield Sunrise}} - cleaned enough ] (]) 01:16, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield MainPlace}} - redirected to ] by joseph ] (]) 01:32, 12 July 2015 (UTC).. was , so I cleaned it enough. ] (]) 04:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC) '''consider for group AfD'''
* {{la|Westfield Topanga}} - clean enough - '''consider for group AfD'''] (]) 01:21, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Horton Plaza}} - clean enough ] (]) 01:47, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Hawthorn}} - cleaned enough. '''consider for group AfD''' ] (]) 04:39, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Trumbull}} - cleaned enough ] (]) 04:48, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield UTC}} - cleaned enough ] (]) 04:57, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Valencia Town Center}} - cleaned enough. '''consider for group AfD''' ] (]) 05:08, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Westfield Wheaton}}
* {{la|Westfield Garden State Plaza}}
* {{la|Westfield Galleria at Roseville}}
* {{la|Westfield Fox Valley}}
* {{la|Westfield Fashion Square}}
* {{la|Westfield Culver City}}
* {{la|Westfield Countryside}}
* {{la|Westfield Connecticut Post}}
* {{la|Westfield Citrus Park}}
* {{la|Westfield Carlsbad}} was redirected by joseph but . Cleaned ] (]) 07:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Broward Mall}}
* {{la|Westfield Brandon}}
* {{la|Westfield Annapolis}}
* {{la|Westfield Century City}}
* {{la|The Mall at the World Trade Center}}
* {{la|Eastridge Mall (Gastonia)}}
* {{la|Westfield Vancouver}}
* {{la|Great Northern Mall (Ohio)}}
* {{la|Westfield Meriden}}
* {{la|Solano Town Center}}
* {{la|Parkway Plaza}}
* {{la|Downtown Plaza (Sacramento)}} - cleaned enough ] (]) 05:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
* {{la|Eastland Center (West Covina)}}
* {{la|Westfield Group}}
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User Napoleonjosephine2020 has been registered since 2020 and has almost exclusively edited Lindy Li's page. Since Kamala Harris has lost the US Presidential election, Li, previously a stalwart Biden/Harris partisan has made multiple appearances on TV attacking the Democratic Party and has seemingly declared she has left the Democratic Party. Several users (including myself) have edited Li's page to include these recent news stories. Napoleonjosephine2020, whose edit/user history shows her praising Li in laudatory terms, has repeatedly objected to inclusion of this information, deriding it as minor and irrelevant. Napoleonjosephine2020 has also engaged in personal attacks against other users and acted combative. Multiple unregistered IP addresses starting with 2601:41:4300:9370 (presumably coming from the same location) have also removed these edits, with a writing style similar to Napoleonjosepine2020, accusing other users of bad faith and using the same rationales for why this information should not be included. Napoleonjosephine2020 has been subject to temporary editing restrictions due to their disruptive editing, I suspect these unregistered IP addresses are Napoleonjosephine2020 making edits outside their account so that their registered account is not subject to further sanctions for disruptive editing.
The user has a confessed COI on their user page related to their "representing" the ], a major owner of shopping malls, and was advised about it some years ago. However, their entire spate of recent edits (including to the above article and many other Westfield properties) has inserted clearly promotional language, peacock terms and other clear POV issues, directly against the guidelines they were advised about years ago. I do not believe the user can be trusted at this point. ] (]) 00:52, 11 July 2015 (UTC)


Given this pattern of behavior, I think the evidence points to Napoleonjosephine2020 having a personal connection to the subject, with an interest in violating NPOV leading them to repeatedly engage in disruptive editing/edit warring.] (]) 01:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:This was just an honest mistake on my part. I'm new to the site, having taken over the account from a previous person. I will be sure not to make this mistake in the future. Please do not change my account status. ] (]) <span style="font-size:smaller;" class="autosigned"> — Preceding ] comment added 21:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::Accounts are personal and cannot be shared or transferred to another person. Please read the ]. ] (]) 21:41, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::{{ec}} Accounts must not be used by multiple users- as a result, this account should be blocked, and you should create a new account. ] (]) 21:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Accordingly, I have blocked this as a shared/role account. ] ] 22:29, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Thanks for the block. I have listed the articles and tagged them all for COI and their talk pages too. ] (]) 22:49, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Quite a lot of them just aren't notable, so I've redirected them to ]. If/when an unconflicted editor wants to write about them, and can show their notability, I'm fine for them to be recreated. ] (]) 23:04, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::added main page and Westfield editor who edited there, just to round this out. ] (]) 23:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
{{outdent}} I'm done trying to clean these up, every time I touch one of them to remove promotional content or just a redirect/PROD of non-notable spam, {{ping|Jojhutton}} reverts it. I guess we should just let the spammers spam instead. ] (]) 23:35, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
{{od}} added two more historical COI editors. ] (]) 01:01, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
*Three things. First, Jytdog, please identify the other two accounts you are referring to above. Secondly, slow down. These articles have existed for years, another few days is not going to destroy Misplaced Pages. Finally, remember that your own personal point of view of what is and is not notable is not the deciding factor here, and that shopping malls have generally been considered to meet the GNG. (Oddly, I probably agree with you that most of them aren't notable, but our shared view of notability is quite a bit narrower than that generally held to be the case at AfD.) ] (]) 05:13, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
*: I believe the users in , {{userlinks|Westfield North County}} and {{userlinks|Jeffin60613}}, are the two intended. I corrected a typo in the Jeffin60613 reference. --] (]) 19:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Per the case at Arbcom I am not working on COI stuff for a bit. ] (]) 23:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Should some or all of these be merged into ], the parent company? See ]. Branches of chain stores are not usually considered notable. ] has its own article, but that is one of the most famous department stores in the world. Westfield's malls are generally big, but not that individually notable. Comments? ] (]) 19:13, 15 July 2015 (UTC)


::Normal practice in AfD discussions has been the malls of under 1 million square feet are not usually notable, and I think that at least very few articles for less than 500,000 sq ft have been accepted at afd.''']''' (]) 18:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC) :{{ping|Vosotros32}} Prior to your filing report here, the article was already semi-protected until March 2, and the editor in question was indefinitely ] from editing that article. I'm not sure what more you think this report is going to accomplish. --] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> (]) 13:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)


== State University of New York at Geneseo ==
== Michael Thibodeau ==
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This editor has only edited the college's article, their username indicates a potential connection ("Comms" may indicate a role in communications at the college and 1871 is the date when the college official opened), and they have not responded to a brief but direct question on their User Talk page about this potential connection. Their edits are not objectionable but ] is not optional and our ] exists for good reasons. ] (]) 23:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
I follow the Michael Thibodeau article and a user has attempted to add biographical information about him, which is fine to do, but the user seems to have a COI. An IP user claiming to be Jim Cyr, Thibodeau's communications director. After being reverted as adding unsourced information, the person having registered Jimcyr as their username. They have not yet replied to posts on their talk page about their edits, which again, aren't necessarily bad, but they are unsourced which is the primary reason I have reverted the changes. On their last edit they attempted to cite themselves as a source. ] (]) 22:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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== Kathryn Babayan ==
Today they added a very promotional edit about him(about his 'guiding principle'); they did cite some sort of web page but it wasn't clear what exactly they were citing in the page. ] (]) 15:39, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

:I agree, they are continuing to ignore advice, adding ] sourced only to Michael Thbodeau's official webpage. They show no signs of collaborating or discussing with other users, seems like a case of ] to me. ] (]) 17:43, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
::The user did contact me today; I directed them to their userpage to hopefully see the posts that have been put there already. ] (]) 21:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
::Just in case it wasn't clear before, they stated on my talk page that they work for Senator Thibodeau. ] (]) 22:51, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Looks OK now. Puffery deleted, basic political history remains. ] (]) 06:40, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

== MiamiDolphins3 ==


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* {{la|Ryze Trampoline Parks}}
* {{userlinks|2601:401:100:46E0:E169:2FC9:4E47:B104}}
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* {{la|Mile2}}
* {{la|Jack McCauley}}
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Kathryn Babayan was an academic article I made two weeks ago. As of the past 24 hours, there is an IP editor on a rotating IP address that has been making wholesale wording changes to the article. Some of the changes are okay, more detailed than I had been, but I'm wondering if they're edging into promotional territory for her books. I tried asking the first version of the IP editor if they were Babayan themselves, which I feel is likely, but I received no response. And they're back to making changes just now with a different IP.
I guess I'm coming out of hibernation (my wikibreak) early. The ] involving this editor was archived a little more than a month ago, after another editor was blocked, and MiamiDolphins3 gave a commitment to clean up some non-NPOV and/or primary sources in ], ], ], and ]. This was never done. Plus he's back to work on ] this month; it was not listed on the noticeboard previously. — ] (]) 00:57, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
:Thanks for following up on this, {{u|Brianhe}}. Follow up is so, so important here, so really - thanks! {{u|MiamiDolphins3}} you did to de-PROMO the articles that were raised here before, and I for one was grateful for that. Would you please tell us what has gone with that? If you changed your mind, please let us know and we will pull those out of the archive and clean them up. Thanks. ] (]) 02:42, 30 July 2015 (UTC)


Suggestions on what should be done? ]]<sup>]</sup> 22:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
== The Next Internet Millionaire ==
:The BLP is bloated with puffery and sources. It should be shortened substantially. ] (]) 00:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
:: is how it was before the IP changed things, which I think was a good summary of her work. No idea what you're talking about with the sources however. There are technically only 9 in use in the article, with only one of which being a primary source from her university page. ]]<sup>]</sup> 01:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Just revert to the last good version before the IP started editing. If the user continues to edit the article then revert them again and request page protection at ]. ] (]) 01:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::::K. I've gone ahead and made the revert, though I kept the lede change the IP made. Since I think that was actually an improvement. ]]<sup>]</sup> 01:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::Article has now been protected to prevent further disruptive editing . With thanks, ] (]) 17:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


== Captain Beany ==
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* {{la|Joel Comm}}
* {{la|Twitter Power}} (see also ] )
* {{la|iFart Mobile}}
* {{la|The AdSense Code}}
* {{la|The Next Internet Millionaire}} (see also ] in process)
* {{la|Mike Filsaime}} (see also ] )
* {{la|TweetGlide}}
* {{la|Click Here to Order}} (now a redirect)
* {{la|Morgan James Publishing}} (published '']'')
* {{userlinks|Internetmarketer}} (blocked)
* {{userlinks|Emongami}} (active)
* {{userlinks|Riathamus000}} (active)
* {{userlinks|Riathamus}}
* {{userlinks|Riathamus777}}
* {{userlinks|Andrewcims}}
* {{userlinks|Deanshanson}}
* {{userlinks|AderonkeBams}} "social media expert and business consultant who specializes in Internet Marketing"
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I'm shocked, shocked I say, that books about promoting yourself on the Internet are attracting COI from several SPAs. I've nominated '']'' for deletion. — ] (]) 02:00, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
: Still at AfD. If it stays, it will need trimming. ] (]) 06:41, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
::Just noting that a consensus had not formed, and the AfD was relisted. Here's your chance to express an opinion at ], if you haven't yet. — ] (]) 14:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


*{{user3|CaptainBeany}}
== Amalto and others ==


User:CaptainBeany has been editing the ] article a few times over the past 16 years, as well as other edits related to the subject's novelty political party and former museum. They've made no edits outside of this.
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* {{la|Aptara}}
* {{la|Overaa Construction}}
* {{la|OverstockArt.com}}
* {{la|Pica8}}
* {{la|Jenzabar}}
* {{la|PROFILE Systems and Software}}
* {{la|Ronen Chen}}
* {{la|Tulika Mehrotra}}
* {{userlinks|Cosmopolite1}} (creator of each article above)
; socking?
* {{la|BLOC Hotels}} (nexus)
* {{userlinks|Aviation geek}} (master)
* {{userlinks|TimeQueen32}} (created BLOC Hotels)
; coordinated editing
* {{userlinks|Andrewjohn39}} (contributor of logos, names of execs, etc. to Tealium and Aptara)
* {{userlinks|Arr4}} (+product list to Pica8)
* {{la|Flexenclosure}}
** {{la|eSite}} (product, created by same editor)
* {{userlinks|Ianphillipson}}
* {{userlinks|Renzoy16}} (+PROFILE Systems execs, board, product line)


In 2010 they and asked for a sourced paragraph about a fraud conviction to be removed from the article. Discussions in response at
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] and ] decided that this was appropriate biographical content and should not be removed.
Obvious COI for commercial articles. The second named editor has systematically !voted keep on several articles identified for blatant COI, and has an editing history nearly 100% matching COI-identified articles. ] (]) 21:23, 16 July 2015 (UTC) {{ping|JamesBWatson}} added to list ] which you had protected in June, 2013, to prevent spam re-creation. {{ping|SmartSE}} It appears possible there's a connection to the Aviation geek sockfarm via involvement in ]: as you pointed out at the AfD it was created by the sock TimeQueen32. — ] (]) 23:26, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
:Just added <s>three</s> four new articles, two I just missed; ] was expanded from a crummy stub by Cosmopolite1. ] was created by Ianphillipson and the logo uploaded by Cosmopolite1, who also appears to be active on ru.wikipedia where he created the corresponding article with a similarly-named account. ] (]) 00:11, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
:: I'm pleased to see a full list of my articles, but I'm very surprised to see an accusation of this kind.
:: I'm not coordinated with '''anybody''' and I don't have any ]. All of my articles were written with ] in mind. I don't have any "close connection" to any of my articles' subjects. Most of the information comes from secondary reliable sources. --] (]) 01:10, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


I posted a belated COI message on their talk page last year, after noticing the issue's history when working on the article: User:CaptainBeany had removed the paragraph in 2016, with nobody realising. The user didn't respond to the talk page template, and today they . ] (]) 13:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:Arr4, Renzoy16 and Cosmopolite1 have all been employed as paid editors in the past. However, I don't believe that they have been engaged in paid editing in recent months, so this is a somewhat older issue. - ] (]) 04:12, 27 July 2015 (UTC)


:The user to the COIN notification, though exactly what they're trying to communicate is beyond me. --] (]) 05:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
=== Andrewjohn39/Articles_for_deletion/Planview ===


== Science of Identity Foundation ==
{{archive top|No substantial evidence indicating a conflict of interest has been presented in this complaint. As such, I am closing this discussion as groundless/.{{pb}}When filing at this board, {{u|Sokoreq}} is reminded to explicitly state the reasons that they believe a conflict of interest (as defined in ]). In particular, it is important to to avoid ] by making complaints here while failing to state a reasonable case to conclude that a COI exists. — ]&nbsp;<sub>]</sub> 04:08, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}}
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This senior editor reverting my constructive edits repeatedly, in which I created a new section to simplify the content and cited reference. However, it appears that the editor is maintaining the article and may have a conflict of interest. Even though I have warned the editor, but now editor has started an edit war. ] (]) 18:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Per discussion at AfD:
:@], why haven't you attempted to discuss this at ] first? ]&nbsp;] 18:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::*'''Comment''' Possible ] going on. Account ] is !voting keep on a series of articles created by COI editor ], but has not otherwise an active editor. The AfDs are: ]‎ ] ‎ ] ‎ ] ‎] (]) 16:08, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
::Agreed. Looking over the talk page and edits, I don't see anything suggesting Hipal has a COI. Nor do I see anything to evidence that Sokoreq has a vested interest in editing the article, although it is curious that they went straight to the noticeboard without participating in the talk page. —''']''' (]) 18:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::] FYI, I don't know ] and the reason I am commenting on the articles created by him is because I read long discussions on his talk page where he also mentioned pages created by him and that are now nominated for deletion because of notability issue. I am only putting evedences of notability and I feel that whoever nominated these articles had not reviewed the references himself and it was a biased decision to nominate them for deletion. ] (]) 18:50, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
::::*Except that there is no such discussion on his/her talk page -- and that was easy to check. And how one ended up on such a talk page would need explaining. So I'm still dubious. ] (]) 15:47, 1 July 2015 (UTC) :::@] You are right, I was surprised that the editor keeps reverting my edits. This behavior suggests editor may have ] or feel a sense of ownership of the page. ] (]) 19:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Reverting your edits is evidence that they disagree with you, which is allowed. Disagreeing with you is in no way evidence of a conflict of interest. ] (]) 19:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::*I can't help if you have a doubt but be assured that I don't know him...I accidentally landed on his page while reviewing a page created by him and then I went through all the discussions. Apart from this, I am only presenting the fact and doing nothing else..if you don't agree, present counter argument rather than blaming!! someone nominated pages for deletion because he thought that subjects are not notable..I am just trying to prove that nominations were wrong!! ] (]) 19:06, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::@] Yeh, I agree with you, but how many times ? And why? did you check my edit ? The editor was doing endless reverts, even after I requested clarification about their concerns on the talk page. ] (]) 20:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::You were also 'doing endless reverts'. Do you have a conflict of interest? ] (]) 20:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Did you check my edit? What is wrong with that edit? I would like to know so that I can improve myself for next time. Please be specific. Thanks ] (]) 20:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::You can improve yourself for next time by recognizing that reverts are a normal part of Misplaced Pages's editing process (see ]), and by refraining from making unfounded accusations towards other editors just because they reverted you. ] (]) 20:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::I followed ], but the editor didn't adhere to the discussion part: 'Talk to that one person until the two of you have reached an agreement.' Anyway, did you check my edit that the editor reverted several times? That would be really helpful. ] (]) 20:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::No, you began edit warring after you were reverted. That is not following ]. And you still have not posted at ]. ] (]) 20:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::The editor reverted my edits without any explanation and did so repeatedly. I am still waiting for your insight. Did you check my edit? What mistake did I make? I want to understand; any help would be appreciated. ] (]) 20:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::::::Some of the mistakes that you made were edit warring and posting spurious talk page warnings (and now a noticeboard entry) rather than discussing your edits on the article's associated talk page. I'm not going to contribute to compounding those errors by debating the content with you here. If you want to continue with this, I would suggest that you withdraw the allegations you have made against Hipal, including the spurious vandalism, COI, and harrassment warnings you placed on their talk page, apologize to Hipal, and then go to ] where active discussions are currently taking place without your participation. ] (]) 20:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::::::::You are trying to make it seem like it's my fault only, and you are missing the point. Anyway, thanks; I have already explained my COI concern below. ] (]) 21:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::@] Already, there is a lot going on in that talk page. ] (]) 18:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::@] I agree that it's daunting. However, you don't get to override discussion by jumping straight to a noticeboard, and especially not COIN.—''']''' (]) 18:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::@] I apologize, but the editor's behavior was strange and did not make any sense. Now, after seeing the article history, it looks like the editor has a sense of ownership or maybe a conflict of interest. other than that, I don't have any other evidence to prove the COI. I leave the final decision to you, but now I am feeling Anxious about whether I should touch that article because it seems like that editor owns it. This is strange! ] (]) 19:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:I think this can be closed as a groundless complaint. Sokoreq has continued to edit since opening this complaint but has yet to try to discuss the edits in question at ]. No evidence has been provided for conflict of interest, other than the OP's apparent assumption that there is no other possible reason that their edits would be reverted. ]&nbsp;] 21:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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== ] ==
I haven't posted here before, so apologies if this is wrong place/wrong data.
* {{userlinks|Kateblau}}
] (]) 16:45, 17 July 2015 (UTC)


Multiple draft creations of spammy company articles in a relatively short period of time:
{{ping|LaMona}} The post seems fine to me. As they were also being discussed in the post above, I've made this a subsection of that discussion- hope that's okay. And yes, it seems dodgy to me that an inactive editor has been voting keep at lots of AfDs of articles created by BiH, who recently declared themself to be a paid editor. ] (]) 16:49, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
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Received a COI notice January 5th but has continued to edit without declaring any COI. ''']'''<sup>]]</sup> 02:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


:здравствуйте! я создаю статьи о компаниях по киборгизации и автоматизации, научных деятелей в этой области, это будет сделано в короткий промежуток времени, потому что проделана большая аналитическая работа по данным компаниям и я загружаю уже составленную ранее информацию, это не реклама, я допустил несколько ошибок, потому что впервые на википедии как автор, пожалуйста, я могу дальше создавать страницы? ] (]) 18:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
] added a CEO's portrait to an article created by undisclosed paid editor ] . ] (]) 23:23, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
:Hello! I am creating articles about companies in cyborgization and automation, scientific figures in this field, this will be done in a short period of time, because a lot of analytical work has been done on these companies and I am uploading previously compiled information, this is not advertising, I made several mistakes, because this is my first time on Misplaced Pages as an author, can I please continue to create pages? ] (]) 18:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:There are other very suspect crossovers between Andrewjohn39 and BiH e.g. where AJ added an awards section to ] that BiH had rewritten only . Similarly, they overlapped at ]. Also as I noted there was also suspicious, overlap between ] and AJ. Looking back I've found more problems as their very first edit was <sub>(admins only)</sub> creation of ] which was 100% promotional and obviously not written by a completely new user. Overall, I think this makes it clear that they are an undisclosed paid editor who is acting deceptively even when asked and as such unless an explanation is forthcoming, I don't see much other option but to block them indefinitely. ] (]) 11:46, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
::It appears that you are using a LLM like ChatGPT to create these drafts, and that your own communications are machine translated. Is that true? ] (]) 18:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::'''Support''' blocking, of course. ] (]) 23:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
*I've deleted some of these; they all seem to be on the same pattern, making roughly the same claims. I assume LLM use at minimum. ] <small>(])</small> 20:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:::{{done}} ] (]) 20:25, 26 July 2015 (UTC)


== PNIStaff == == John Ortberg ==
*{{la|PNI Digital Media}}
*{{userlinks|PNIstaff}}
*{{userlinks|209.17.128.161}}
*{{userlinks|104.131.132.202}} (now blocked for proxy abuse)

Well gee, now that their edits have news, somebody want to contact {{user|PNIstaff}} about their COI re: ] ? ] (]) 13:34, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
:At least one corporate IP involved as well. ] (]) 14:07, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

:The company page had very promotional wording. I added an advert tag to ] and did a first pass ] cleanup. -- ] ] ] 06:32, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

::Why is someone bothering to promote them? They were acquired a year ago and no longer exist as a separate company. ] (]) 06:43, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
:::If you feel the company is not notable according to ], then you should send the article to ]. I do note that without all the current press about the data breach, the company might not reach the notability threshold. -- ] ] ] 06:46, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

== Rebecca Rice (choreographer) ==


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*{{la|Ron Hargrave}} * {{userlinks|Timothydw82}}

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*{{userlinks|Riceflan}}
*{{la|Rebecca Rice (choreographer)}}
*{{la|Marion Rice Denishawn}} (Rice's dance troupe)
*{{la|Marion Rice}}
*{{la|Carolyn Brown (choreographer)}}
*{{la|List of choreographers}}

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Timothydw82 is a ] which is used solely to promote, defend and censor valid information about ]. Timothydw82 admits to consulting with Ortberg about the article on ] and has also used that page to make disparaging comments about Ortberg's son, Daniel Lavery. This is both a serious COI and POV problem. He has been warned before by other editors. My most recent warning (for POV editing) was met with what seems to be feigned incomprehension and "Do you work for Misplaced Pages?". I think it is time to put an end to this farce. ] (]) 02:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
] describes self on userpage as "Writer and assistant to other writers and celebrities who require rewrites, interviews and more".


:Thanks for sharing your concerns. I’d like to address the points you’ve raised to clarify any misunderstandings about my contributions and intentions.
Off-wiki evidence strongly indicates ] has a conflict (beyond his declaration on his userpage) about musician-related subjects. On-wiki evidence such as the edit summary on the creation of ] and uploads of probable family pictures shows ] is writing COI about dancer-related subjects. Crossover between the two editors on ] on 22 September 2010‎ exists for unknown reasons. ] (]) 21:35, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
:First, while my account may appear to have a narrow focus, my goal has always been to ensure that articles on Misplaced Pages adhere to its principles of neutrality, verifiability, and reliable sourcing. My edits related to John Ortberg and related topics are aimed at upholding these standards, not promoting or censoring information. If there are specific examples where you believe I’ve violated these principles, I welcome a constructive discussion to address them.
:Second, regarding my consultation with John Ortberg: I acknowledge that I have communicated with him, as I’ve disclosed on my user talk page. However, my involvement has been strictly limited to ensuring that edits align with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and reflect accurate information.
:Third, concerning the comments about Daniel Lavery, I understand how sensitive these matters are. My intent was not to disparage anyone, and if any of my remarks were perceived as inappropriate, please bring them to my attention.
:I'd also like to express my disappointment in your accusing me via direct message of treating you like "idiots". That felt like a curt, uncalled for accusation with little to no dialogue or support. You have not engaged in a discussion with me but clearly expressed your desire to see me blocked for little to no good reason I can discern.
:Finally, regarding warnings from other editors: I value feedback and strive to learn from it. I am more than willing to engage in dialogue to resolve disputes and improve the quality of articles. If there are ongoing concerns about my edits, I encourage the use of formal dispute resolution processes so we can work collaboratively toward a solution. ] (]) 02:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
::Is that AI generated text? I ran it through a few different detectors and most thought that it was at least partially AI generated. ] (]) 03:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
::Unbelievable. Indeffed. Thank you, ]. ] &#124; ] 20:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC).


== Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation ==
*Marion Rice at least is not just notable but famous. Some or all of the others are also notable. There may be a coi, but to me the articles do not seem promotional. ''']''' (]) 18:29, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
::My comments here were strictly to the COI aspect of the articles and the editors. — ] (]) 18:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

== Coolguy365 ==


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* {{userlinks|Coolguy365}}
* {{pagelinks|Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation}}
* {{userlinks|Canadianeditorboy}}
* {{userlinks|Vanished user 6251}} * {{pagelinks|Park Hyeon-joo}}
Users:
* {{userlinks|Arr4}}
* {{userlinks|FreerangingAnik}} * {{userlinks|Channy Jung}}
* {{userlinks|Motifirma}} * {{userlinks|203.239.154.130}}
* {{userlinks|Chisu1020}}
* {{iplinks|176.67.172.86}} (blocked webhost)
* {{iplinks|154.20.102.122}}
* {{iplinks|94.79.231.56}}
* {{la|Draft:Club W}}
* {{la|Draft:Clickmeeting}}
* {{la|One97 Communications}}
* {{la|Vijay Shekhar Sharma (Entrepreneur)}}
* {{la|DOSarrest}}
* {{la|Tiburon Incorporated}}
* {{la|Fleetmatics}}
* {{la|Host1Plus}}
* {{la|Limoneira}}
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Suspected undisclosed COI editors. Single-purpose accounts used exclusively to edit on this person and his foundation. All of the edits are complimentary, and almost entirely unsourced.
Something very odd here involving a vanished user. I'm not sure if that's a violation in and of itself, but the occurrence of articles that have already been subject to COIN scrutiny is not encouraging. Note that Vanished user... started editing a few minutes after the IP from a now blocked webhost. Sandbox hijinks going on with Coolguy365. I kind of stopped pulling on the thread after some well-known articles started appearing, so this list is nowhere near comprehensive.


I warned Channy Jung () and 203.239.154.130 () but both have continued editing ] and have ignored the warning (, ). Chisu1020 has been inactive for a while though, but same pattern of behavior.
Worth mentioning, ] made an odd an unexplained edit , blanking Tiburon Incorporated; at the time it was Coolguy's sandbox. Possible retaliation for blanking on another fishy corp article created by Arr4. Arr4 is also mentioned in another active investigation at this noticeboard, to which he/she has not responded, though was actively editing less than 24 hours before was . Arr4 was also active on ] around the same time as Coolguy, and there appears to be coordinated editing on ].


I recently rewrote ] entirely to get rid of the unsourced promotional-like writing . State of article before the rewrite: .
There was mutual sandbox editing on something called Culinaire International .


Also worth noting the is similarly fluffy. I suspect Park/his foundation are watching these articles.
] is a sneaky recreation of ]. One of the IPs appears to be aware of its existence as shown by edit to his alma mater. I have added ] the creator of the new version to this case, but the old version was <s>pretty dirty with COI edits as well</s> created via undisclosed paid editing. — ] (]) 22:56, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
:Turns out that Vanished user was created as a deceptive name, he wasn't vanished at all. Details here: ]. Thought this might be relevant to this discussion. — ] (]) 17:02, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


] (]) 05:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Sorry for my late reply, I was busy in our ] celebration. Coolguy365 is undoubtedly a paid editor. That blanking by me was only retaliation/biting when I discovered that cool guy is a paid editor. I had bitten many other paid editors in this way to avoid my being caught by COIN. - ] (]) 07:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Arr4}} Is there evidence you'd like to share with us? — ] (]) 14:19, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


:Those accounts, as well as ], all seem to be SPA/COI accounts which are not responding to multiple discussion attempts, and should be blocked for some period of time to get their attention. The "foundation" article seems like it would also fail GNG, and should probably be either deleted or merged into the Hyeon-joo article. ]&thinsp;] 06:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
== Everymedia.in ==


== Misplaced Pages Writers Marks a Milestone with 1,000 Successful Misplaced Pages Page Publications ==
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* {{la|EveryMedia Technologies}}
* {{la|Sajid Khan (director)}} — one of many Bollywood edits
* {{la|Ferriswheel Entertainment}}
* {{la|Shubhra Bhardwaj}} — exec at Ferriswheel
* {{la|Prime Focus}}
* {{la|Hyundai Creta}}
* {{userlinks|AayushyaBajpai}}
* {{userlinks|Nikitanayak everymedia}}
* {{userlinks|Kabir Vaghela}} — definite COI per links on userpage
* {{iplinks|103.19.198.78}} Blazenet Technoilogies Ahmedabad
* {{iplinks|103.16.70.141}} Gatik Business Solutions Bangalore
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Cooperation of editors above suggests a commercial connection. One editor's name probably refers to everymedia.in, a marketing company. The other has asked me personally how to write about PrimeFocus Technologies, a perennial COI magnet. A quick perusal of contribs points to extensive COI editing related to Indian cinema. ] (]) 17:03, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
:I'm kind of burned out now but if somebody wants to pick at the scab, ] would be a good starting point. ] is there for starters. — ] (]) 17:44, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
*{{u|Kabir Vaghela}} also has a COI with respect to ] which came out at that articles AfD so he is very well aware of out COI policies. If he is doing more COI editing it indicates to me that he does not take on board community input. ]] 18:06, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
::Final note from me, ] by ] was apparently recreated by same ed as ]. Not the action of a GF editor. — ] (]) 18:22, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
:::As of today, {{U|Nikitanayak everymedia}} is actively editing ]. Hyundai is listed as an Everymedia client at ]. — ] (]) 20:24, 28 July 2015 (UTC)


Well, that's what they ''say'' on openpr.com. For the interested. I was going to link it, but my edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a ] or ]. Despite that, it seems to have some WP-presence: ] (]) 12:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
== Robert Gerald Lorge‎ ==
:{{re|Gråbergs Gråa Sång}} That's just a press release site. The company that published it is already listed on ] at ]. ] (]) 15:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

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There have been repeated attempts by ] and IPs over the course of the past week to add unsourced information to this article about a would-be politician. They have ignored warnings to cease and desist (], ]). Today the subject of the article made . The changes are mostly unsourced or sourced to the subject's self-published campaign pages. The subject also removed information about an election loss. Given the persistent disruptive editing, I'm requesting some help in dealing with this. ] (]) 18:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
:He has also started in his father's article, removing information supported by reliable sources. ] (]) 18:45, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
:::I agree with 32.218.32.146, it has been frustrating removing uncited materials in the articles only to be put back in. Thank you-] (]) 18:55, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
::::The subject article was deleted following an AfD and the user was blocked for making legal threats. This may bubble up again in some other form but for now there's nothing left to it. ] (]) 20:53, 23 July 2015 (UTC)


== Dag Creative Media and others == == Paul Devlin (footballer) ==


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* {{la|Aponjon}} * {{userlinks|Pdfc2025}}
* {{la|Ichchenodi}}
* {{la|Bela Seshe}}
* {{la|List of programs broadcast by Star Jalsha}}
* {{la|Koushik Roy}}
* {{la|Surinder Films}}
* {{la|Proloy Asche}}
* {{la|Dag Creative Media}}
* {{la|Mon Niye Kachakachi}}
* {{la|Jamai 420}}
* {{userlinks|Raju Kapuria}} - created every article above between May 2015 and July 2015
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The editor claims to be the subject of the article and is repeatedly adding altered statistics, replacing ones which appear to be referenced. I and {{u|Struway2}} have made suggestions at the editor's talk page. I am reluctant to continue reverting in the circumstances (for all I know the edits are correct, if unsourced), but on the other hand it could be a hoax or subtle vandalism. What's the best way forwards? ] (]) 12:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
] has made no declarations but apparently is creating paid stuff. The way corp articles come into being complete with infobox company and such is reminiscent of farms we've seen here before. — ] (]) 19:43, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
:Their stats look correct for what they are, per the sources in the career stats table lower down the article where they appear in the totals columns, but they include data for matches that don't belong in the infobox. The editor has removed all but big-league clubs from the infobox, lumped together separate spells with the same club, and included statistics for cup competitions; I've explained to them that conventionally we don't do that. The editor also suggests there are errors and omissions, which could well be true, but they haven't yet elaborated. cheers, ] (]) 13:00, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
: Seems like a sock of ] <small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:33, 21 July 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::They are now blocked from making changes to that article. They are more than welcome to suggest changes on the article's talk page. <b>]</b><sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 20:07, 11 January 2025 (UTC)


== Blur Group == == ] ==
{{pagelinks|User:SHEJO VARGHESE}}
Undisclosed COI editor writing an autobiography at ].<span id="LunaEclipse:1736800296227:WikipediaFTTCLNConflict_of_interest/Noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;💽 ] 💽 🌹 ⚧ <sup>(''']''')</sup> 20:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)</span>
:With the page in draft space and placed for CSD, and the copious user page warnings, with a grand total of 3 edits by this apparent COI editor, I would caution ]. I think no further action is likely necessary as their draft page will either be deleted under CSD but failing that would most certainly fail a formal AfD. ]&thinsp;] 20:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
::], my bad :( I had no intention to come off as overly harsh.<span id="LunaEclipse:1736801352397:WikipediaFTTCLNConflict_of_interest/Noticeboard" class="FTTCmt"> —&nbsp;💽 ] 💽 🌹 ⚧ <sup>(''']''')</sup> 20:49, 13 January 2025 (UTC)</span>
:::Just remember to have good faith -- when they have only made three edits and stopped editing at 16:52, and then subsequently 4 consecutive posts to their talk page is a bit overbearing. It would be one thing if they were editing between your posts (so it appears they are ignoring you), but in this case, zero edits since the first notice, there's not a huge need to escalate unless they continue to persist in unconstructive behavior after the notifications. ]&thinsp;] 00:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


== Gilles Epié ==
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Please see this recent advert:

I thought it might be useful to raise it here for consideration so that we can give Blur Group a clear idea of what is appropriate for Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 11:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

== Rocket Internet ==


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* {{la|Rocket Internet}} * {{pagelinks|Gilles Epié}}
* {{la|Kaymu}} * {{userlinks|Epie2020}}
**{{la|Kaymu Pakistan}}
**{{la|Draft:Kaymu Bangladesh}}
**{{la|Draft:Kaymu}} - yes there is also a draft
* {{la|Jumia}}
* {{la|Jovago}}
* {{la|Zalora}}
* {{la|Spotcap}}
* {{la|Sacha Poignonnec}} - CEO
* {{la|Jeremy Hodara}} - exec
;editors
* {{userlinks|Maxb42}} - created Rocket, one-time throwaway account
* {{userlinks|Lena Ortmann}} - created execs, draft:Kaymu
* {{userlinks|WMKT fr}} - created Jovago, spammed a bunch of articles with jovago.com
* {{userlinks|Jinxian.hoh}}
* {{userlinks|Hariskhan12345}} - created Kaymu Pakistan ‎
* {{iplinks|202.142.163.138}}
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Epie2020 has acknowledged a personal connection to Gilles Epié on their ] but does not seem to consider this a conflict of interest. They were most recently warned about this behavior on 20 December 2023 but to make edits to the Gilles Epié article. ] (]) 22:41, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
The Nigerian dot-com startup scene is a fascinating subject documented at ]. Unfortunately, billion-dollar IPOs plus shady business practices equals lots of COI articles on Misplaced Pages. I've listed here ] and several of its creations. The list of SPA editors probably is quite extensive, I've just tapped a few here. {{ping|Garchy}} you nominated the executive articles for speedy deletion. — ] (]) 14:11, 22 July 2015 (UTC)


== Burning River Buckets ==
Addendum. ] may have been compromised by undisclosed, conflicted editors. {{ping|DGG}} you nominated the article for deletion. — ] (]) 15:47, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
::The problem, as usual with such articles, was whether the references were truly substantial, independent, and reliable. For many articles, fair people can think either way. In past years, I would usually give articles the benefit of the doubt. Now, for articles on companies, especially new companies, I increasingly think the opposite. For this particular article, I continue to consider the references (except possibly PCWorld) either general with merely a mention of the company or essentially press releases, & many of them from unreliable sources. But a really good press agent can get reliable sources to write respectable articles, and once there is a buzz in even the unreliable press, reliable sources tend to cover it. Our rules are inevitably helpless against such methods, because we must reflect the Real World, which is full of promotion and unreliability. (Incidentally, I just removed a list of the miscellaneous products they sell, which I considered a promotional product catalog.) If someone wants to renominate it, I'll comment.
::More generally, perhaps every author of an article on a company should be required to certify in a positive way they have no financial connection. This might have more deterrent value than merely a rule against it. ''']''' (]) 16:32, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

::I just placed a tag for merging Kaymu Bangladesh to Kaymu. ''']''' (]) 17:13, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Multiple SPAs are arguing against the merge proposal, including who appears to be speaking as two people, either accidentally or on purpose. — ] (]) 19:49, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

== Black House Media ==


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* {{userlinks|C.A. Buttons}}
**{{la|Draft:BlackHouse Media}}
* {{la|Remi Aiyela}}
* {{la|Adekunle Ayeni}}
* {{la|Nigerian Entertainment Today}}
* {{la|NOGIntelligence}}
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] has identified himself as the owner of the ] basketball team on , on , and on . I've tried over a period of months (and on each of those talk pages) to share information on the COI policy and the need for reliable sources, to no apparent avail. Perhaps others could give it try. -- ] (]) 01:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
Nigerian public relations company, its CEO and a possibly related newspaper and its owner. Making inquiries to editors. ] (]) 15:00, 22 July 2015 (UTC) Added ] owned by BHM group, some of the same involved editors. ] (]) 15:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
::I just placed afds for Ayeni and NOGIntelligence. ''']''' (]) 17:12, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
:::{{ping|DGG}} I think you meant you nominated ] and ]. {{ping|Tchaliburton}} You nominated Remi Aiyela for speedy deletion, care to comment? — ] (]) 17:20, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Yep. Ayeni is notable. ''']''' (]) 17:24, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

== Declared COI at ] ==

*{{userlinks | Benson adrienne}}
*{{la | Skyy Vodka}}
SPA with declared COI: "I work with an agency on behalf of Campari America and want to point out the below facts that are not fully represented on the page as it. Appreciate if an unbiased editor can implement these changes." Ref: ]. They're being careful and haven't done anything bad yet. They just want to put PR-type product info in the article. Please watch. Thanks. ] (]) 06:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
:I cleaned out some promotional wordings/content in the article, and added the <nowiki>{{request edit}}</nowiki> template so the users request will show up in ]. -- ] ] ] 07:24, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

== Aleksandar olic and Active Collab ==

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Aleksandar olic is an employee of the company that sells Active Collab, wrote our article on it, and has been steadily adding wikiliks to it on other pages. No response to the warning I put on his talk page. --] (]) 09:54, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

I tried to stay as neutral as possible. Would be glad to see someone more experienced edit the Active Collab article. I disclosed that I work there, so it should be edited by someone who doesn't have an affiliation. Any help appreciated. I added "Request edit" but it got removed. --] (]) 10:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
: Hi Aleksandar. I removed the Request edit template from the article, because it should be only on the talk page. Please feel free to post to ] with edit requests. Thanks! -- ] ] ] 10:19, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
::...aaand he went right back to editing the page where he has a COI, less than an hour after saying "it should be edited by someone who doesn't have an affiliation." --] (]) 01:15, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

== Public utility district ==

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A lengthy and badly POV edit to the article was made by a self-declared PUD commissioner and stands since 2012. I'd like to recuse myself from editing this one. ] (]) 15:48, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
:I'll give this a copy edit tomorrow morning. ] (]) 21:48, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

== Carmen Busquets ==

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* {{iplinks|86.160.229.98}}
* {{iplinks|88.170.206.188}}
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Women's fashion is too far outside my expertise to make a good judgement on this, but this person does appear notable, with at least one full NYT story about her. However the article looks heavily non-NPOV and has been maintained by one or more questionable anon editors, and one declared COI editor . Also I haven't fully developed this, but I think on eLance to create a profile of a new enterprise and its CEO may be related to Busquets. Could some other folks have a look? ] (]) 19:49, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

== Woodland Meadows ==

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* {{la|David Carter (entrepreneur)}}
* {{userlinks|ShaheenPIA}}
* {{userlinks|LogAntiLog}}
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* {{userlinks|Boosbudge345}} (another LaL sock)
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The article was a direct result of . Same client posted about a book they are writing on Woodland Meadows. Same elance contractor features ] in his portfolio; almost certain socking going on here ... see prior investigations ] and ]. — ] (]) 20:27, 24 July 2015 (UTC) Posted to SPI as a recurrence of ]. ] (]) 20:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
:COIN team please note that since ]/] and his known socks were blocked on 8 May, the Elance account has taken 7 or 8 more jobs. Every single one of his jobs before or after 8 May either are explicitly Misplaced Pages edits, or are "private" and probable Misplaced Pages edits. So there's some buried stuff here still to be found. — ] (]) 20:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

== User:Boniafashion ==

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User:Boniafashion is a ], making edits exclusively on ], unexplained except for one terse edit summary. Clearly seems COI based on ] and the promotional tone of the edits, and has not responsed to talk page messages. Instead, there was a recent reintroduction of a promtional timeline . ] (]) 22:16, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
:Thanks for posting. Reviewed it; been prodded by Joseph2302 seconded by Brianhe. On my watchlist. ] (]) 00:22, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

== ] staff ==


Given the controversy, we should give all the affected users' work a once over

These users have also declared employment by ]'s ] :

#]
#]
#]

{{userlinks|Blue56349}}

{{userlinks|Orangegrad}}

{{userlinks|Stapler8}}

A sub-issue:

None of the COI disclosures seem adequate; the ToU require "...you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive..."
From :
{{tq|If you have been hired by a public relations firm to edit Misplaced Pages, you must disclose both the firm and the firm's client.}}
I request these users be blocked unless or until their disclosures meet this minimum requirement, in order to prevent further damage. Requests/warnings like have been insufficient.
Also, perhaps a template is needed, use of which could he suggested at ] --]<sup>(]•])</sup> 23:28, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

== Kirk B. Jensen ==

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* {{la|Felice Frankel}}
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* {{userlinks|Wodidongli}}
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Draft was created by a SPA, rejected, then article created by another SPA, then edited by the first one. The draft is still there and needs to be histmerged. ] (]) 01:16, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

== Smileverse ==

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* {{userlinks|Smileverse}}
* {{userlinks|Ejhoyte}} (accused sock account)
* {{iplinks|182.74.246.46}} (duck)
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* {{la|Ian C. Johnston}}
* {{la|Dharam Seva Records}}
* {{la|Saurav Dutt}}
* {{la|Charles Ressler}}
* {{la|Appknox}}
* {{la|Capital Float}}
* {{la|MedjetAssist}}
* {{la|Enrico Thanhoffer}}
* {{la|AlphaPoint}}
* {{la|Marksans Pharma}}
* {{la|Digital Locker (India)}}
* {{la|Nick McKenzie}}
* {{la|Air Costa}}
* {{la|Anantapur Sports Village}}
; prob COI edits by user (not complete)
* {{la|wego.com}}
* {{la|Search engine optimization}}
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* {{la|GotUrethane}}
* {{la|William Benson (businessman)}}
* {{la|The Notionaries (rock band)}}
* {{la|Vamshi Paidithalli}}
* {{la|Travertine Mart}}
* {{la|Langoor (company)}}
* {{la|American Sleep Association (ASA)}}
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Does this really need a comment? ] (]) 03:27, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
*I have no idea at all about the COI issue, but there was a spam issue where the user was adding their website links to multiple articles and the case of a username that was essentially their website's domain. I had blocked as a spamusername, but the user provided assurances that they would not do that again and was unblocked. That can be seen . I bring this up only because of the relationship between those links, spamname and COI. &mdash;]''']''' 17:21, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
::This wouldn't be the first editor whose veneer of patrolling or other activity masks essentially COI contribs and ] purpose. I developed the list above just by filtering their contribs by page creations and looking at the deletion warnings on his talkpage. ] (]) 17:49, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
:::The contributions are there in the userpage history too, in addition to the early contribution history.&mdash;]''']''' 18:08, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Old dog, same old tricks in 2015:
*seocertification.co.in (2013);
*bangalorean.net (2015);
::::Wow. See same user at ] case on this page. — ] (]) 20:35, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Just ran across this editor's obvious profile at a pay-per-service site. Clearly this is paid, but will give him an opportunity to meet ]. ] ] 21:19, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
FYI, there is some relevant discussion related to ] that took place on ] ] last night that might be helpful. ] (]) 22:51, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Hi all! My name is Daylen. This user is on ] which is a violation of the Misplaced Pages policy ]. Below I have some information that I copied from my talk page:
::::::Hi! I was exploring ] regarding some design services and stumbled on this, (a Fiverr account offering Misplaced Pages article writing services, I can't link the page because Misplaced Pages won't let me; here is a screenshot of the URL, http://screencast.com/t/Mmw5XZiRfB). Isn't this in violation of the Misplaced Pages terms? While looking through the page to attempt to find their Misplaced Pages user name I stumbled upon this http://screencast.com/t/7As0jec01nX (two of his latest works, ] and ]). I found that {{u|Dewimani}} was the only editor on the Lancaster Insurance Services article so I suspect that they are the seller. Also, on their talk page, {{u|Inks.LWC}} noticed that the user stated "I am aware of the Misplaced Pages notability guidelines & have contributed many with other name.", that leads me to believe that they have multiple accounts which is a violation of Misplaced Pages's policy. As such, I believe that an administrator should look into blocking this users IP address. Can someone please help me submit a claim because I have no idea how.

::::::] (]) 23:44, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::If you have evidence that they're improperly using multiple accounts then you should file an ]. It should be noted there are a few cases when multiple accounts can be used. In terms of paid writing, it's covered under our policy at ]. It's strongly discouraged, but until the issue is addressed further through complete prohibition, then they may have edited within the limits. Was anything you noticed expressly promotional? ]] 03:29, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::::My guess, after looking at and the screenshot that ] provided (which shows that Lancaster Insurance and Tuft & Needle are connected), it looks like it might be three people all working for the same "company". Unfortunately, I don't really have time to be of much more help right now, as I'm taking the bar exam in 4 days and only came here now because I was pinged; however, if the issue is not yet resolved by July 30, feel free to give me a reminder on my talk page, and I can look into it some more. ] (]) 07:21, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::::I actually just realized something... I noticed in the Fiverr ad that it states, "If you want us to write for News about you. Contact us". Smileverse, one of the editors to ] (but not ]) is the (he his information to his user page, so there are no ] with what I'm saying). In the past, Smileverse has created articles about subjects that he has written about on Bangalorean.net and used his articles as sources. I informed him that doing this was a conflict of interest. A lot of the articles he was linking to from Bangalorean.net were very promotional in there tone, and with that line about "write for News about you", I have a suspicion that he may be getting paid to write stories on Bangalorean.net so that he can use them as "news sources" to make articles here. I had had a suspicion that he might be a paid editor, just based on the articles he had written before and how promotional in nature they were, but now with this Fiverr post that shows that Dewimani, Smileverse, and Baligema might all be connected, that raises more suspicions. Just looking at the , it is not apparent that Dewimani is connected, but quite a few articles that have been created by Smileverse and Dewimani have been deleted, so some common pages between them would no longer show up. I know that at one point, they both created an article on a businessman, William Benson (Smileverse created ], and Dewimani created ]). So there seems to be some connection between the three, and there are certainly some conflict of interest problems, but the exact connection isn't 100% clear. As I said before, I don't really have the time right now to devote to this (I've already spent more time on it than I should have), but if it isn't resolved by next Thursday, I'll come back to this. ] (]) 08:35, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

] (]) 04:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

:From the evidence above, as well as their it is abundantly clear that this user ]. I'm therefore going to block them indefinitely, but should note that I would be very hesitant to unblock them even if they disclose their COI as ] is the reason for the block. I will have a look through some deleted contributions as well to see if there is a chance of sockpuppetry. ] (]) 20:19, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
::{{ping|SmartSE}} Can I suggest that you start with ] as it has a finite set of pretty clearly connected SPA editors? — ] (]) 22:06, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:::See ] there were several other suspect editors not included here. I also uncovered links to ]. I had a look at those accounts at Alphapoint, but they looked to be more like employees of the company editing Smileverse's version rather than socks. ] (]) 17:29, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Oh and if is at all typical of their writing style, there is a whole lot of content that needs cleaning up. ] (]) 17:32, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

===Refspam from bangalorean.net===
I'm seeing fallout from the bangalorean.net SEO (at least that's what I think it is) e.g. at ] and affecting ]. Any suggestions on how to handle it? - ] (]) 04:35, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

{{ping|Brianhe}} check ] e.g. . There aren't too many links but that may lead to some new articles. It should probably be blacklisted as well. ] (]) 12:48, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
:Posted blacklist request at ] if anybody wants to chime in. ] (]) 14:53, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

== Don Nicholas (publisher) ==

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* {{userlinks|Onedolphin}}
* {{userlinks|Chris Mequoda}}
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Bio of an Internet marketing type, orphan article, created by SPA and rescued from PROD by same. The gives you an idea of how badly conflicted this editor is. The text has been whittled away to NPOV, leaving a blurb that basically establishes he's alive and owns an Internet marketing gig called Mequoda Group. They used to issue press releases like and were mentioned once two years ago in ''Adweek'' . Does somebody want to AfD this? ] (]) 14:29, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
:At AFD. <span style="color:red; font-size: smaller; font-weight: bold;">§]</span><sup>]</sup> 19:59, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

== Comm100 ==

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* {{la|Comm100 Live Chat}}
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* {{userlinks|AnnaCheung}}
* {{userlinks|Ellen here}}
* {{userlinks|Elaine here}}
* {{userlinks|FlyingStrong}}
* {{userlinks|Powershelled}}
* {{userlinks|Smileverse}}
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It has come to my attention through off-wiki investigation of a COI issue that ] employs one or more people with the title "SEO Engineer" and they are active here. ] (]) 20:32, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

== Certified Financial Planner Board of Standards ==

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* {{la|Certified Financial Planner Board of Standards}}
* {{la|American Academy of Financial Management}}
* {{la|Michael Kitces}}
* {{la|Marv Tuttle}}
* {{la|Alexandra Armstrong}}
* {{la|Dave Yeske}}
* {{la|Chartered Financial Consultant}}
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* {{userlinks|Sclarke1}}
* {{userlinks|Sclarke1129}}
* {{userlinks|Ikey1206}}
* {{userlinks|Wealthadvise}} - contributor, blocked sock
* {{userlinks|Finplanwiki}}
* {{userlinks|PlanningProf}}
* {{userlinks|Fpresearch}}
* {{userlinks|Mkreft}}
* {{userlinks|Merlin1410}}

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There is strong off-wiki evidence that ] was created by a for-pay Misplaced Pages editing service. Since then various conflicted editors have been maintaining it. Starting report now, will fill in details later today.

Note that Sclarke was developing this page in near-entirety well prior to the creation of the current article, which was posted by meat- or sockpuppet Ikey1206. Did they use Misplaced Pages sandbox to sneakily transfer it to the other editor?

Getting into outing territory, but there are notes at ]. {{U|Finplanwiki}} is a contributor to CFP and ]. Also the only one of these accounts that appears to be editing in 2015.

Added ] for involvement of Wealthadvise there. {{Ping|Rschen7754}} for possible legal ramifications per your edit at

Finplanwiki seems to have as ]. This leads to ] and another SPA there, {{U|PlanningProf}} .

{{U|Fpresearch}} ←→ ], FPA president or something. I hope this is not an autobiography but ... of Dave Yeske's portrait is suggestive that he is the same. ] (]) 19:26, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

:Umm, I am not ]. Just wrote his bio, and several other leaders in our planning industry too. I try to update pages relevant to CFP planners. I don't know anything about how the CFP Board wiki entry was created in the first place. Maybe it was for pay. I just update it by trying to be an active member of this Wiki community, who happens to be a CFP. So yeah, I am a CFP, that's why I care about CFP Board and the other people I wrote up, but no more special than any of the other 72,000 of us CFPs... and as a CFP, yeah I'm also a member of our membership association FPA. I just post anonymous because our industry has crappy old regulations and my complaince department gives me crap about anything with social media. Not because I work for CFP Board or FPA (no thanks!!). Can't even have a damn Facebook page where I work! ] (]) 19:13, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
::Refactored your reply with an indent (":" character) for readability. Sorry for the suspicion, but as you can see on this page, we have a ''major'' problem on Misplaced Pages with conflicted and undeclared editors contributing here. Would you mind adding something declaring your connection to the FP industry to your userpage? — ] (]) 19:25, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Sorry, still learning all this Misplaced Pages formatting stuff. I added some info to my User page at https://en.wikipedia.org/User:Finplanwiki. Does that cover what you were looking for? As for the CFP Board page... yeah, can't speak to how it got created in the first place. I'm just trying to keep the important info up to date as CFP Board changes their rules. ] (]) 19:36, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
:Legal told me nothing at the time beyond a confirmation of getting my email, but you may want to ping ] about this. --''']]]''' 04:27, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
::Digging through my archives - I would guess that this is unrelated to that email. Rschen, if you think I'm wrong, could you send me reasoning by email? I may be forgetting something, and I'm sure your memory is better than mine. :-) ] (]) 06:27, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

== Paymentguru ==

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* {{la|Net Element}}
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* {{userlinks|Paymentguru}}
* {{userlinks|Ofirer}}
* {{userlinks|Evetterocks123}}
* {{userlinks|Isab12393}}
* {{userlinks|Roarmedia}}
* {{iplinks|66.229.62.160}} - Comcast Miami
* {{iplinks|66.229.60.122}} - Comcast Miami
* {{iplinks|194.186.201.46}} - Moscow
* {{iplinks|213.33.164.150}} - Moscow
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Suite of SPAs for this financial company and its CEO. I've opened a SPI against <s>three</s> four enrolled users plus four IPs. ] (]) 02:12, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

== Chungsen Leung ==

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Campaign manager for Canadian politician repeatedly removing a paragraph describing an incident said politician's career (, , , , , , ). Did not respond to my message on his talk page concerning reverts (), and proceeded to re-revert anyway. Also removed several previous warnings and questions about the same behavior on his talk page: . ]<sup>]</sup> 09:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
: ] proceeded to re-revert again -- without discussion -- despite COI notice on his talk page: . ]<sup>]</sup> 22:09, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
:: Another revert (). Deleted notifications and comments on user talk page (). Clearly, user is not interested in discussion -- can admin intervene? Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 03:14, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
::: Reported to ]. ]<sup>]</sup> 03:49, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

== ] ==

On the ] article:

* {{u|Neulion2009}} the article.
* {{u|Wweiss22}} some small changes.
* {{u|NeuLion2010}} the logo
* {{u|JaredK511}} 25 edits, enlarging Technology & Services and Recognition sections.
* JaredK511 changes.
* {{u|SDesrochers}} a little edit.
* {{u|Davealloway2001}} 15 edits, expanding the Services and Major Customers sections.

All of these accounts have only edited on the NeuLion article. Davealloway2001, JaredK511, and Wweiss look like names of employees of NeuLion (I can provide internet pages that show this). &mdash;] / ] 16:15, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

==Disclosures need work==
None of the COI disclosures seem adequate; the ToU require "...you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive..."
From :
{{tq|If you have been hired by a public relations firm to edit Misplaced Pages, you must disclose both the firm and the firm's client.}}
I request these users be blocked unless or until their disclosures meet this minimum requirement, in order to prevent further damage. Requests/warnings like have been insufficient.
Also, perhaps a template is needed, use of which could he suggested at ] --]<sup>(]•])</sup> 23:28, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
:I'm not speaking out of turn since my involvement has been relatively short but seems to me a revamping of the whole process here is overdue. I think the answer is probably an interactive process, such as employed by {{U|Jytdog}} in . Not sure a single template can accomplish that. Also, these three users have just disappeared since June 19 when the COI was uncovered, so what is the solution for that? My suggestion is a policy manual by which users who have gone silent can automatically be blocked. Probably included should be revocation of special rights (rollback/reviewer etc.) at some time prior to that, and revocation of account renaming privilege as soon as an investigation starts. — ] (]) 00:03, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

::Both the COI template {{tl|uw-coi}} and Jytdog note that Misplaced Pages's ] '''require disclosure''' of your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. I'm feeling a shorter template that focuses on this, like {{tl|uw-coi-incomplete}} would be helpful. (I can't say that interactive process stands out as a great example in my view. It's OK, but Jytdog chose to cherry-pick the CoI concerns he sought to address based on his strongly non-NPOV attitude - he tabled any discussion of the CoI of Dr. Lisanby. Intimidation like is not exemplary either.) I second your policy manual proposal!--]<sup>(]•])</sup> 01:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Note for future self -- procedures manual should include how and when to a) remove permissions userboxes and b) to courtesy blank userpage. — ] (]) 16:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

== Page archive interval ==
I just noticed that the archive bot settings seem to be off. At the top of the page it says auto-archive will happen on a thread after 7 days of inactivity. The bot is configured for 14. We're getting a lot of activity here and the page sometimes gets quite long. If there are no objections in the next 8 hours, I will adjust the bot settings to 7 days as advertised. ] (]) 17:04, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
:I moved it to 14 days, as cases kept getting archived before we could deal with them. Not long ago there was a case where that happened, and it ended up at ANI. A long page just means we have a lot to do... ] (]) 17:39, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
::I think 14 is better and agree that cases often got archived before being dealt with when it was 7. ] (]) 21:44, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

== BankBazaar ==

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* {{la|Engineering Agricultural and Medical Common Entrance Test}}
* {{la|Eamcet mock counselling}}
* {{userlinks|Nash2925}}
* {{userlinks|Sandippatil.bb}}
* {{userlinks|Sonal Bankbazaar}}
* {{userlinks|Ileanalyardson}}
* {{iplinks|106.51.27.250}}
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User that he created BankBazaar as some kind of "dummy edit" but he's clearly been nurturing it over a period of time, as well as these other things he's created. There are other active editors with names suggesting a relationship to BankBazaar itself. Also I can't help but think that is some kind of retaliatory thing. Just as a point of interest, accidentally logged-out edit was from a Bangalore ISP. ] (]) 18:38, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
: Looking at ], they seem to just pass ] for notability. They've been written up in the Times of India, the Economic Times, and TechCrunch, mostly because Amazon bought a 5% stake in them. The promotional material in the article needs to be toned down, but most of the hype was already taken out by Brianhe in this edit..
: ] is a notable subject, but the article has a lot of uncited information. Watch for attempts to promote coaching companies.
: ] probably should be merged into the ] article. ] (]) 19:38, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

::I beg to differ. ] is an ] and I have tagged it for speedy deletion.--] (]) 14:27, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Bankbazaar would be notable (and I think I should be able to find some refs for that in the next couple of days) as they have tie ups with ICICI and HDFC banks for credit card application processing etc as well as their own funding sources. Just on a general principle, these coaching classes and all "add on services" shouldn't be merged to the main articles as they are nothing more than spam magnets (just look at the history of our articles on the ], ] etc for some background), and these are the typical companies that use SEOs etc. &mdash;]''']''' 17:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Agreed. The coaching company article was speedily deleted, which was probably justified. ] is close to the threshold on notability; it's at AfD and could go either way. Wait out the AfD; if it stays, we can trim more hype. ] (]) 18:22, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
{{ping|Smartse}} or other admin: Given the obvious COI nature of his contribs, and bald faced dishonesty in answering questions about it, could we get {{U|Nash2925}} blocked now? — ] (]) 20:44, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

== Flame37fighter ==
* {{la|Charlotte Fire Department}}
* {{userlinks| Flame37fighter}}
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User has declared he is an employee of the ] which the article is about . Appears to be attempting to use the article to promote the department and is removing material that reflects poorly. Should be noted this is the only page the user has edited. --] (<sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub>) 19:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

== Raymond James Financial ==

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* {{userlinks|OnceaMetro}}
*{{userlinks|Editor048}}
*{{userlinks|FinEditor100}}
*{{userlinks|User063}}
*{{userlinks|Lkearney1}}
*{{userlinks|KJam101}}
*{{userlinks|Lightningfan100}}
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It's hard to find a contributor to this article who is '''not''' a redlink SPA or drive-by IP. I will follow up in the next 24 hours with developments. Just listing here now if somebody wants to have a look. <small>''Edited further to add following''</small> This looks like a good candidate for ], does anybody else agree with me? — ] (]) 20:55, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
:Added contributor {{U|OnceaMetro}} per ] (Sony PR scandal). — ] (]) 22:01, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
::I'll go along with ], which might mean a temporary deletion since there is no requirement that we continue to have a badly written, ad filled article. I've also deleted 3 poorly referenced sections. In the long run though, I expect that this company is notable. I even have a word of praise to insert here: at least they have a link to (unaudited) financial statements. I think a link to audited financial statements should be a notability requirement for any company, especially financial companies. Though financial statements are not the end-all and be-all for any company, for financial companies, if you don't have financial statements to start with, anything else they say might as well be pure BS. ]<sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub> 22:33, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Added the most seriously involved editors above. All but one have added "Awards and Accolades" or trimmed negative information w/o explanation. {{U|FinEditor100}} has been active editing today and I have asked him what his status is as a paid editor or otherwise. ] (]) 23:25, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Afraid all the articles that these people were involved in need to be gone over with a fine-tooth comb. Thanks, Briahne. ] (]) 17:39, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Yes, it's an ugly case and a lot of work. This will be an interesting post-mortem, I think we can learn a lot about who hires these people and how they do their business. I put a lot of work into ] because if the real-world operator behind OnceaMetro is who I think it is (a known ] case), we can use the behavioral evidence in many future cases. Anyway, as for the items that need checking right now, see ] for a start. It's a list I've composed of just two editors' contribs. There are over 175 items to check. I've started some, starting with the ones they've edited most frequently or two suspected socks have edited together. ] (]) 18:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

== Various hedge funds and their managers ==

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* {{la|Eric Mindich}}
* {{la|Anthony Chiasson}}
* {{la|John Liew}}
* {{la|John A. Thaler}}
* {{la|Peter Pocklington}}
* {{la|Eton Park Capital Management}}
* {{la|JAT Capital Management}}
* {{la|Pine River Capital Management}}
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* {{userlinks|OnceaMetro}}
* {{userlinks|SimpleStitch}}
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In going through the Raymond James case, it appears to me that we have done a crummy job of cleaning up after {{U|OnceaMetro}}. Some of his edits were obvious in purpose, some more difficult to discern, so I'm listing everything that smells "off" here. At a glance it looks like there may have been teams involved in some of these, especially ]. Metro's edit history goes way back and the list of apparent clients is quite extensive; I've just cherry picked some of the more egregious and/or recently edited. ] (]) 23:47, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
:Like I said, the full analysis is kind of tedious, but here's a start: ]. ] (]) 00:11, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::SPI opened against the two editors named above: ]. ] (]) 04:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Watch for cherry-picking in reports of fund returns. ] mentions the return for their best fund in their best year, but doesn't give the usual 1, 5 and 10 year numbers needed to make comparisons. See this WSJ article indicating they were underperforming their market by 2014. Also see this data for 2015 for all their funds. Performance for the last year wasn't so great; several of their funds lost money. ] (]) 08:12, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Background: The US SEC requires that investments sold to the public in the US prominently display their 1, 5, and 10 year performance in marketing materials. There's a long history of funds focusing on the good years, so the SEC established 1, 5, and 10 as an arbitrary, but standard benchmark. Hedge funds, which are sold to "sophisticated investors" only, are not required to report in that way. So there are services such as ] and ] which compute and report those numbers. So, if an article about an US investment has some nonstandard performance numbers but not the 1, 5, and 10 year numbers, it's likely that promotional material has crept into Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 18:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Oh God, my head spinning. ] (]) 23:56, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

== Blocking non-communicative editors ==
Recommend the following editors to be blocked as non-communicative wrt to simple yes/no question about editing for pay:
* {{userlinks|Bidofvich}}
* {{userlinks|JideAluko}}
* {{userlinks|NeutralNigerian}}
* {{userlinks|Hephef}}
It has been more than five days for each of them since I asked on their talkpage.

Blocking seems to be the only way to maintain integrity and enforce the Terms of Service for individuals who don't engage with the community. I recommend this be adopted as a regular procedure after a reasonable period of time, like 5 days, as discussed ] () previously. ] (]) 14:38, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
: None of them have made any edits in the last five days. Some haven't edited in months. The most recent edit by any of them was July 21st, 2015. What seems to be the problem? ] (]) 23:22, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::The problem is stuff like ] (a PR firm apparently writing about itself, complete with a proud recounting of its ]) and its CEO, ] aka 'Ayeni the Great' according to the article. What are we going to do about it? Wait until these editors come back, ''then'' block them? Why? — ] (]) 02:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

:::None of these editors have made any edits since you asked them your question. Blocking them for being non-communicative would be ridiculous. ] (]) 03:13, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::::I could as easily say an open-ended waiting period is "ridiculous". That's not an argument. My statement was that it should be a reasonable period of time, open to consensus, and applied by an admin who agrees with the case brought before him/her having followed the correct notification procedures, and with valid grounds. I could see the waiting period being up to something like months. However the longer we wait, a) the more people familiar with the case drop away from the project, lose interest in watching their edits, the fog of memory sets in, etc. b) less disincentive for others who see these paid situations as enticing opportunities and c) we lose the feedback loop to the investigators, who want to see some kind of outcome of their efforts here and not just a black hole. Here's what's at stake as I see it: the future of Misplaced Pages itself is at risk of being sold by those with the lowest scruples to the highest bidder. We know it's happening, and IMHO it is accelerating because we left the door wide open for the crooks. Is this project more than a blank wall for advertisements for plastic surgeons, celebrity entourages, and get-rich-quick schemes? It's up to us; again, ''what are we going to do about it''? Obviously the current system isn't working. Just scroll up the page: case after case of commercial, baldly promotional stuff is getting through for years on end. We know people are actually forming a commercial enterprise and a way of life around this. Balancing the need to stop that against the inconvenience of some people having to request an unblock seems not "ridiculous" to this volunteer. — ] (]) 03:51, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Fixing the article is appropriate. Please remove the PR. ] reads like a press release. But see ] on Misplaced Pages blocking policy. Blocks are not punitive, they're intended to stop future bad behavior. Blocking inactive accounts is seldom done, since it doesn't do much. It's not a waiting period issue, it's an activity issue. But keep watching for activity on those accounts. If they start putting PR into Misplaced Pages again, then it's time to ask for a block. ] (]) 18:58, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

== Potential COI re: Alex Brown ==

Perhaps I am mistaken, and if that is the case, I apologize (consider this more free advertising), but I thought it was unacceptable to advertise or link to your own "paid and pay-for work" on your user page, and/or also to edit articles on WP that references your paid work. For some examples, see the following:
*
*
* A link off WP
* Another link off WP
Then there are the WP (controversial?) articles Alexbrn edits and is quoted as follows:
] which includes a link to ] and then a link to ], the latter of which includes the following text in a rather controversial article which also includes a link to his personal blog: {{xt|On March 31, 2010, Dr Alex Brown, who had been the Convener of the February 2008 Ballot Resolution Meeting, posted an entry on his personal blog in which he complained of Microsoft's lack of progress in adapting current and future versions of Microsoft Office to produce files in the Strict (as opposed to the Transitional) ISO 29500 format:

On this count Microsoft seems set for failure. In its pre-release form Office 2010 supports not the approved Strict variant of OOXML, but the very format the global community rejected in September 2007, and subsequently marked as not for use in new documents — the Transitional variant. Microsoft are behaving as if the JTC 1 standardisation process never happened...}}

He also removes content he disagrees with but that may be ok since he is an expert in the field: .

He does have a COI declaration on his user page:
*Other than is as apparent from the above links, I have a potential conflict of interest that may apply to:
*the ] article, since I was in that controversial process;
*the ] article, since I am the editor drafting a Standardized version of that specification.

And there is also his "About Me":
*I work .
*My personal blog is .
*I help make Standards and sit on the UK government's .}}

All totaled, it looks like a cozy little promotional site for Alex Brown and his company, Griffin Brown UK. The big question is whether or not the WP suite of Standardization of Office Open XML articles improve the encyclopedia or serve to benefit Alex Brown? If this is acceptable on WP, I'm sure other editors will want to take advantage of it as well. I am also of the understanding that {{ping|Risker}} works on COI issues, particularly paid COI & advocacy issues, so if she has already investigated this issue and cleared it, then we can put it to rest ASAP. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 16:51, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:I would have an obvious conflict of interest in regard to the company I work for (which I declare). But since (so far as I know) Misplaced Pages has never mentioned that company or its work, that is moot.
:I have a potential conflict of interest with Standards I am involved with (not a financial COI), but generally don't edit those since I declared my potential COIs years ago.
:So what is the problem exactly? This looks to me a little like ]iness because of disagreements in other places. ] (]) 17:03, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

::Perhaps you didn't notice the links I included. I also don't understand why more admins are not looking at this with sincere concern. The horribly unjust COI that was initiated against me as a volunteer got far more attention. What message are we sending to editors? Your user page links to sites where you sell your products and/or get paid for views. See ] and ]. Author(s): Alex Brown (Alex Brown is a Technical Director, Griffin Brown Digital Publishing Ltd, Cambridge, UK.) and also here where it costs $28.00/day access .
::{{xt|Paid advocacy – being paid to promote external interests on Misplaced Pages – is a subset of paid editing. It is the type of paid editing of most concern to the Misplaced Pages community, because edits by paid advocates invariably reflect the interests of the paying client or employer. Advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Misplaced Pages is not, and paid advocacy, including advertising, promotion, public relations and marketing, is an especially egregious form. Sue Gardner, then executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation, wrote in 2013 that the Foundation regards paid advocacy as a "black hat" practice that "violates the core principles that have made Misplaced Pages so valuable for so many people."}}
::Also see: {{xt|If you have a close financial relationship with a topic you wish to write about – including as an owner, employee, contractor or other stakeholder – you are advised to refrain from editing affected articles. You may suggest changes on the talk page of affected articles, where you should disclose your COI. You can use the <nowiki>{{request edit}}</nowiki> template to suggest changes.}} You edited several of those articles and you have off-Wiki links to sites where you get paid so that actually makes it a paid advocacy. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 18:35, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::So where's the COI? It's difficult to disclose who your employer is without identifying that employer: there's no advertising or promotion going on. I list the real world articles I have written, but I have no financial interest in those (the publishers do maybe). The Gardner quotation seems good, but if you are alleging I am a "paid advocate" you need to produce some diffs of advocacy and say where the pay is coming from. ] (]) 18:41, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

It's starting to look a bit heated here and hard to get a sense of what really is the problem. I'll ask {{u|Atsme}} to leave out material from user pages and off-wiki sources and list only edits made by {{u|Alexbrn}} to Misplaced Pages articles, and then state '''very briefly''' why she thinks each is a COI problem. ]<sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub> 18:57, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:Where do you detect "heat"? Surely not from me because I'm cool as a cucumber. . ] Off-wiki links that promote/advocate one's line of work or place of business carries, well...let's just say, "the lurking suspicion of a COI taint", especially when they link to pay-per-view sites which automatically indicates somebody is getting paid or a business/advocacy is being promoted. It is no different from being paid to promote external interests and is a form of advertising, promotion and marketing (of one's own for-profit company, or as a volunteer Board member of a nonprofit where there is fiduciary responsibility.) I've already provided the links above and was hoping the COIN "team" was going to initiate as thorough an investigation as they have done so many others in the recent past, including my own. Adequate evidence was already provided above but I'll provide yet another off-wiki link to demonstrate the <s>advocacy/promotion</s> controversy - SC 34 meetings, Copenhagen: {{xt|Within SC 34 there has been discussion about whether Microsoft’s extensions should be taken into the Standard. The consensus has been not to: the market doesn’t care so we will not care on their behalf – the world will get the Standard it deserves. Does this matter? I think it does … but that will have to be the subject of a separate post …}}. Advocacy? Let's ask Billy Gates what he thinks about it. Read more: http://www.adjb.net/post/copenhagen2.aspx#continue#ixzz3hJFkBH00 It couldn't be more clear after you visit his user page and start clicking on the links. An investigation of his user contributions will also reveal everything COIN needs to know but if the user page alone doesn't create the evidence needed to substantiate paid advocacy, (via business ownership), not to mention the suite of linked articles, and warrant further investigation, then I think we may be opening a large can of worms and setting a new standard regarding financial COI. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 20:24, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Misplaced Pages is very lenient when it comes to what a person can post on his/her own user page, especially when it comes to ''disclosing conflicts of interest.'' I personally will ignore any link to the user page, but perhaps somebody else can figure out the point of those links. Links to off-Wiki sources are also somewhat problematic. Misplaced Pages does not regulate what it's editors can say outside of Misplaced Pages. Perhaps there are some cases like applying for a paid editing job that might be of interest here, but in general the main complaint here has to be about COI editing to articles. Perhaps that other stuff can help support an accusation of COI editing, but I would have to see an edit to an article for me to recommend any action on this. ]<sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub> 21:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

::I don't understand. Where is the COI editing? He has dislosed potential COI and states he has done no paid advocacy. Where are the supposed problem edits? As far as I can tell from what is presented here the editor has been aboveboard and forthright. evidence please? ] (]) 20:57, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::Absent evidence of problematic edits, this should be closed and the OP should apologize. ] (]) 20:59, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::I can't see any problems either. ] (]) 21:39, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Let me get this straight so there is no confusion. {{u|Smartse}} you said you don't see any problems concerning Alexbrn with regards to a potential COI or FCOI based on the following information I provided:
::::#], (ITTF) an article which Alexbrn created (with no COI disclosure on TP) and he also leads with the most number of edits ;
::::#ITTF includes in the body of the article a link to ], an article which Alexbrn was 3rd in number of edits , states on the article TP header that ''The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute,'' (again no COI disclosure on TP),
::::#ITTF also includes in the body of the article a link to ], the latter of which Alex led in number of edits, , and didn't include a COI notice until after he finished editing the article, ;
::::#Even though 1 - 3 above clearly promote his line of work/business advocacy for standardization, you say there is no problem with FCOI and nothing needs to be done, correct?
::::#You are also saying it's ok for editors to advocate, solicit, promote and market one's products/services from their user pages using links to off-wiki sites, correct?
::::#You are saying editors can create and edit controversial topics regardless of having a COI, correct? See #2 & #3 above.
::::Hmmm...perhaps you can explain the purpose of COIN? Also, what about all the editors who were past targets of COI investigations and brought here to enforce restrictions on their editing ability for far less than what Alexbrn has done - don't they deserve the same consideration? I'm actually ok with whatever you decide as long as it works the same for ALL editors, not just a select few. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 00:23, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Could you expand on what you mean by 'advocacy for standardization'? What exactly are you suggesting that Alexbrn was advocating on Misplaced Pages? ] (]) 00:30, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
=== Abuse of COIN ===
Just as a bit of background here, this all comes after {{u|Atsme}} lodged a entitled "Abuse of COIN". Atsme was objecting to her own case here at COIN, which investigated her placement of links to her company into article space, and self-citation, among other things, and which closed with a finding of a COI. Atsme's Arbcom request was declined with a suggestion it be taken to AN/I (which, strangely, it never was).
<br/>As is evident from her mentions of her own case above, this appears to be a ]ed attempt at tit-for-tat with one of her perceived opponents. I am open to any question the COIN folk want to ask me, but I fear this is yet another waste of the community's time. ] (]) 04:09, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:I think its tit for tat but not pointy behavior. I think there is a failure on the part of Atsme to understand the difference between your COI in relation to Open XML and her COI in relation to that ocean conservation group. For a novice at ethics it would not be a far out mistake. If this COI (it's really very minor. Wouldn't really even consider it a coi personally) wasn't managed as it is, considering recent history, this might be somewhat reasonable. You might consider that. None the less, considering the overall history, I don't think that you would be wrong if you chose to consider ANI.] (]) 08:40, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::There's no tit for tat. I don't play the same games children play. To begin, Alex was not even involved in my COINoscopy so why was that even mentioned? Do you have a guilty conscience about something? These are two entirely different incidents, so stop trying to make this about me. I simply want the courtesy of having my questions answered because those answers will apply to all editors others across the board. FYI - I didn't pursue an ANI in my case because (1) I chose a 3rd party mediator, {{u|Tryptofish}}, who did an excellent job of listening, and (2) I have no animosity toward anyone and I don't hold grudges. Life is too damn short to waste it on such silly things. I've done nothing wrong by bringing Alex's COI here, and questioning why certain restrictions apply to some but not to all is, quite frankly, a darn good question. Others should be asking the same thing. Read my comments above and stop jumping to conclusions. As for my COI case, I didn't/don't have links to my commercial website on my user page. I disclosed my COI before I edited - it was on the TP of the articles, and the editors who collaborated with me knew ahead of time. They also knew about my retirement. They now know about my emeritus status. The fish I wrote about thanked me for the disclosure. Whoop-te-do. However, if COIN says it's ok to do things the way Alex has done them, then I may just consider changing my user page to take advantage of it as Alex has done. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 21:51, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:::I'm commenting here ''only'' because Atsme pinged me. Thank you for saying that I was helpful. I appreciate that, and I'm glad that I was. I don't know what the issues are here, because I really do not want to be involved, but I can say that I have edited with Alexbrn in the past, and found him to be a good editor. A lot of my advice to Atsme was to let things be and move on, so maybe raising a new issue of COI really isn't that useful. Anyway, I don't want to participate in this discussion any further. --] (]) 22:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Atsme is playing games. Games like putting {{tq|well...let's just say, "the lurking suspicion of a COI taint"}} above - quoting my own words back at me, which of course I recognise but nobody else will. That looks like a grudge to me. Anyway, let's be clear {{u|Atsme}}: you are saying the putting the words "I work here" on my user page, linked to my employer's web site, is in violation of Misplaced Pages's COI guideline? You do appreciate, I take it, that this is a teensy bit different from your case where you edit-warred links to your company, and put multiple citations of your own non-RS work, into article space? ] (]) 03:27, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
::::This new section is a diversionary tactic which actually appears to be gaming the system so let's get back on track to Alex Brown's editing. I will not partake in diversionary tactics. I've asked straight-forward questions that deserve simple straight-forward answers. My 4 yr. old COI declaration and the links that were removed are of no consequence here. What is of most importance now are links to your work and personal blog in the article ] which also includes a direct quote from you in an advocacy position in an article where you are listed in the top 3 editors. My COI was about endangered fish species so you're right in that they are not at all similar to what you've done with the suite of articles and promotion of your POV. I'm sure there are quite a few politicians who would like the same opportunity. From the article: ''On March 31, 2010, Dr Alex Brown, who had been the Convener of the February 2008 Ballot Resolution Meeting, posted an entry on his personal blog in which he complained of Microsoft's lack of progress in adapting current and future versions of Microsoft Office to produce files in the Strict (as opposed to the Transitional) ISO 29500 format)'' In addition to linking to your personal blog (which I'm not sure is even permitted on WP) it is followed by a quote by you, Alex Brown, advocating your position. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 13:24, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Well, it's ''you'' who first raised your own case in your complaint, and you need to be prepared to have your own behaviour looked at when you post to a noticeboard. You have been asked by others to provide diffs and explanations here and you have not done so. Instead the goal posts shift again so that "what is of importance" is apparently now a citation of my blog in the ] article. However, I have neither added nor removed that - or anything written by me, so this is completely irrelevant to this noticeboard. ] (]) 13:31, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
::::::Indeed. Perhaps Atsme should ask the person who actually added the material concerning Dr Brown whether the edit was done in contravention of Misplaced Pages COI policy? ] (]) 13:34, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Alex, I raised the case in a much different context. What you are doing now constitutes an unwarranted PA regarding a resolved issue, apparently to divert attention away from your own advocacy editing. The links above and in the original filing provide the evidence. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 14:28, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
:You have provided no evidence that Alexbrn edited the Standardization of Office Open XML article in contravention of policy. ] (]) 14:29, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
::Agree. This looks to be resolved as ''not'' COI editing. ] (]) 14:34, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Unless Atsme can actually provide evidence that Alexbrn has violated policy, this should be closed as no action. ] ] 16:41, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Why don't the editors who are defending Alex explain why they think the evidence I provided is not adequate? The defense is not substantive. And while you're at it, explain why others have to request permission here at COIN to edit articles involving their COI while Alex can edit articles involving his COI without requesting permission. <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 04:45, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
:::::As I have already told you elsewhere, "I used to be a sinner" (though, even looking back, I don't believe even my edits in areas of potential COI are controversial). I haven't edited on conflicted topics for years. Other editors are asking you for ''evidence'' in the form of diffs of edits and "brief" descriptions of why those edits are bad. The more you prolong this without providing such evidence (and I don't think you can) the more this just looks like a vexatious posting trying to ] for you yourself having being caught-out here. ] (]) 05:08, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
{{od}}I didn't get caught, I got an apology. You're the one who didn't declare until after the fact, and you're the one who continued to edit those same 3 articles while ignoring your FCOI so I hardly consider that managing your COI. There are too many edits to list diffs individually because they comprise most of the article x 3 articles, one of which you created, so I used wikiinks for them in addition to diffs. The closing admin can decide if something needs to be done about your FCOI. Seriously, a controversial article that includes a paragraph about you with a link to your personal blog, and a quote by you? Jiminy Cricket. And that doesn't include the links to your pay-per-view commercial products on your user page. If COIN finds what you've done to be acceptable then other editors should be able to do the same, don't you think? <font style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D">]</font><sup>]]</sup> 06:02, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
:Still not a single diff. From the above I don't think you understand what a COI (let alone a FCOI) is, since nothing you mention is problematic in that context. I don't link to any of "my" (or my company's) products, so what you say is false. Anyway I think it should be obvious to the closer what's going on here, not least from your edit summary. ] (]) 06:15, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

== More spoofing/impersonation ==

Just to be absolutely clear, in case there was any doubt, . Someone has been, maybe still is, impersonating me and offering to create articles for payment. As mentioned the last time I reported this, I have an email response from one impostor, maybe the same person, promising they would not do it again. Happy to forward it as necessary. I don't want to out myself so I have not replied to the Facebook post.--] (]) 20:55, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:If someone can post there, they should point them . <span style="color:red; font-size: smaller; font-weight: bold;">§]</span><sup>]</sup> 20:59, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

::<Venting> I am extremely pissed off about this. I have an unblemished Misplaced Pages history and now I am getting shat upon on Facebook and cannot even respond...time for a bike ride and a beer.--] (]) 21:05, 29 July 2015 (UTC)</venting>
:::I know. They've used other userpages as well. I wish the Foundation would step in but they don't seem very interested. <span style="color:red; font-size: smaller; font-weight: bold;">§]</span><sup>]</sup> 21:07, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
::::This is bad. Maybe you could add a notice to your userpage stating that you are being impersonated? I'd of thought that should put a stop to it fairly quickly. ] (]) 21:35, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::I hope that is also an attempt at impersonation ... claims to have 5 years on Misplaced Pages and over 50,000 edits, and offers to "add links to most pages of your choice for a low flat fee, along with a 3 month guarantee", and "creating new pages and getting them to stick, including difficult ones about 'unnotable' {{sic}} businesses". However, does not name his supposed Misplaced Pages account. ] (]) 21:42, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
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I'll suggest something like the notice here for your user page. We should also post something similar about scammers at AfC and other places where it might come up. ]<sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub> 21:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
:I don't understand why anyone would be foolish enough to claim that he is a particular editor if he is not, as it is easy enough to disprove. You just ask the person, ok if you are that editor, post a confirmation or something on Misplaced Pages. Impersonation is a form of identity theft, can be a criminal act. ] (]) 15:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:I see that Facebook post has been edited and acknowledges that there was an impersonation of Ukexpat. ] (]) 15:12, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::Actually, it could be much worse than impersonation or fraud, it could be racketeering as in ], which is extremely serious. The scam, as I understand it, works as follows:
*An article on a small or medium size company is subject to attacks by the racketeers, based on ], the terms of use, or other rules. It's easy enough to find these here, as we all well know.
*The company is then contacted anonymously and told "we can fix this problem for you and you can get your free advertising back to normal" for only $xxxx.
*If there is no response, somebody identifying themselves as "an administrator" contacts them, assuring them that the problem can be taken care of. Explicitly or implicitly part of the message is "don't contact me publicly on Misplaced Pages." Yes, that makes the company something of an accomplice if they respond to the e-mail. But it's really only the smallest of steps. wink-wink. Making the victim into an accomplice is a key step in many scams.
*When the company finds out that nobody can guarantee on article on Misplaced Pages, they have nobody to complain to because of that small step ("just ignoring the rules a tiny bit; beside the rules can be pretty unclear at times")

BLP disclaimer - No, I have no proof that this is exactly what is going on. But off Misplaced Pages this is the oldest scam in the book. Throw a few rocks thru a store's windows, have them contacted by a "concerned member of the community," send in the protection boys soon after. That is racketeering in its classic form. If more than 1 person is involved in more than 1 incident it is ]. Seriously bad stuff for everybody involved. ]<sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub> 17:11, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

:Thanks for the support folks. I have added a message box to my user and user talk pages. Others have commented about the impersonation in the Facebook thread, and it has been acknowledged. I have cooled down a bit, regular service is now resumed.--] (]) 13:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
::Please do keep us informed, even if there is the smallest similar problem. I'm sure that we all can help, even if it is just to keep a look out for similar problems elsewhere. Your messages will also help others who find themselves in a similar situation. ]<sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub> 19:23, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

== Lia Chang ==

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* {{userlinks|Lia Chang}}
* {{userlinks|SallyDonovan78}} - Michelle Beck SPA
* {{userlinks|JugglingBetty}} - Michelle Beck SPA
* {{userlinks|KristinaShelton}}
* {{userlinks|RyanMLemon}} - James Patrick Davis SPA
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These accounts raison d'etre is the promotion of Lia Chang through photo credits , refspam and an article .

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Blatant promotion and linkspamming. ] (]) 11:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:That's not all the refspam. We will need to do an external links search for liachang.wordpress.com to finish this. ] (]) 14:30, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::Done. --] 15:05, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
:::I don't think this case is over. The headshots added to performing-arts bios screams PR firm at play. I'm going to investigate a bit, but will have to start a wikibreak soon. — ] (]) 17:44, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::::n.b. 63.138.145.226 is one of the above editors logged out; it belongs to "Eidesis Management", 500 Fifth Ave, NYC. Would this be ''talent'' management? — ] (]) 18:32, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Whoa! What is going on here? As far as I can tell, Lia Chang is a legitimate journalist. I have seen her reporting on theatre items in the past where the reporting was clearly legitimate, and I was drawn here by the abrupt deletion of those refs. Is everyone sure you are doing the right thing here? The references listed under "refspam" above look legitimate to me, at least at first glance. Would someone please explain what the evidence is here? What is this list of stuff above? Would someone please explain it in words? Be careful that we are not attacking Asian bios in a systemically biased way. Also, I have noticed User:Damiens.rf making serious mistakes in the past and wonder if this is also some kind of mistake. -- ] (]) 07:08, 31 July 2015 (UTC):{{u|Ssilvers}}

:This is the noticeboard for bringing issues with conflict of interest editing to the community. What triggers a listing here is ''editing'' that is promotional. Reviewing the above, it appears that Duffbeerforme noticed a pattern of promotional editing around Lia Chang that affected the article on her, and several others in which references to Chang were inserted. Edits like these violate the ] policy and often produce content that violates NPOV (UNDUE weight on "good" things, removal of negative information, puffery/promotional language... that sort of thing) and such content is also often unsourced or poorly sourced too, violating VERIFY and RS or MEDRS. This sort of thing generally happens for two reasons - the subject of the article themselves, or someone who is an employee or contractor (a freelancer hired at elance or the like) come to Misplaced Pages for the purpose of promoting someone or something, or a "fan" is doing it. Either way, we end up with policy-violating content and the integrity of WP is harmed. Sometimes mistakes are made in the course of this work - I haven't seen all the work done on this case. I started working on the Lia Chang article itself, which does appear to have been the subject of promotional editing - have a look at it and you will find a significant amount of promotional, unsourced, or badly-sourced content. Does that explain what is going on? ] (]) 11:34, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

::But what if these two proponents are wrong, or on some kind of anti-Asian editing spree? Someone should look carefully at what Duffbeerforme and Damiens.rf are doing to be sure, especially because of ]. For example, in recent days, I have noticed at least two instances of Damiens.rf deleting information that is properly sources and obviously not promotional, since I had inserted the refs over a period of years and have no connection whatsoever with Lia Chang. Just some information in an article is unreferenced does not automatically mean that it should simply be deleted. Perhaps a simple google search can find Reliable sources for that information. In the case of Lia Chang, I see her photos appearing in legitimate sources, like ''Playbill'' (see, for example ), and I believe that her theatrical reviews at are legitimate per ]. -- ] (]) 17:13, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
:::Thanks for continuing to talk, btw. I have seen you wrote twice now, about anti-asian bias. I don't know where that is coming from and to be frank I am not going to touch that, except to say that if you have such concerns, this is not the place to bring them. And I encourage you not to repeat statements like that except directly with the users about whom you have those concerns, on their user Talk pages, or at an appropriate forum like ANI. Again, this is not the forum for that.
::: About specific bits of content - people have various views on deleting unsourced content per ] and keeping it per ] and debates like that have raged since the early days of WP; ditto what constitutes a reliable source. I would encourage you to address any specific edits made to specific articles at the relevant article Talk page. This board is for addressing large scale patterns of COI editing. If you look at the contributions of Asia Lauren (easy to do via the link above), you will see that every edit was to the Lia Chang article, or adding references to Lia in other articles. This account is a ] and their edits are violating ], which is policy. Please take some time and look at other cases posted here, and in the archives. You will see that regardless of anyone's race, ethnic origin, or gender, even whether they are for-profit or non-profit, or with industry or suing industry - many many people do the exact same behavior as Asia Lauren - a SPA is a SPA.
::: You are right that when we go to clean up WP in the wake of editors who have abused WP for promotional purposes, we have to be careful. And sometimes people trim too far, too fast. That happens. And then folks like you come back around and clean up after that. This is all normal WP ebb and flow. yes? ] (]) 17:45, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

::::Hello, Jytdog. Someone is adding free images to Misplaced Pages. Why is that a problem? Who cares if the subjects asked (or even paid) someone to add free photos to their WP articles? It seems to me, from a quick glance, that the massive deletions going on here, in response to some possibly good-faith encyclopedia building (albeit by some editors who may or may not have a COI in some cases) are alarming. I notice that Damiens.rf is massively deleting references from numerous articles in Misplaced Pages. I don't have time to follow him around and, as you say, ebb his flow. So, if I hope this is *not* "normal"! Also, why is it not proper to investigate, when numerous ] articles seem to be under attack, whether there is an agenda at work? -- ] (]) 18:12, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
:::::Let me clarify that I am not the boss of this place or anyplace and I am not an admin. I just work at COIN a lot. My advice to you, to not go around WP accusing people of racism, is just general advice - but you will of course do as you will. You are writing a very serious thing, when you write that and especially when you say you have seen it before you mentioned it here; it is not something I take lightly or would write lightly myself. If you think someone is editing in a racist manner you should address that with them and if that doesn't resolve it bring it to ANI.
:::::I asked you to look at the Lia Chang article to tell me if you find it promotional and badly sourced, and your didn't respond.
:::::With regard to larger issues of conflict of interest - if you are unaware of how COI editing generally damages Misplaced Pages by making articles biased, I don't know what to say, other than that I encourage you to read our ] guideline and maybe have a look at ], and then perhaps review the 3 or 4 debates over banning paid editing that raged within Misplaced Pages over the Wiki-PR and Banc de Binary scandals, and review other COI cases on this board, and maybe spend some time looking at the flow of websites getting spammed into WP at the spam blacklist. There are boatloads of people who abuse WP all the time to try to sell stuff or promote somebody or some idea, and don't care if our content ends up warped. It is a problem.
:::::Based on my quick glance and some initial clean up work I did, the activity around these articles seems to be made of the same cloth - which has nothing to do with race but with garden-variety promotionalism. But I will look over what has been going on in the rest of these cases - as I wrote above, I've only started looking at the Lia Chang article itself and the overall contribs of Asia Lauren. ] (]) 18:29, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm not accusing anyone of anything beyond massive deletions without discussion. All of the targets in this massive deletion problem seem to be about Asian or Asian-American persons or topics, so I look forward to your further investigation. Yes, of course I think the Lia Chang article is insufficiently referenced, although some of the references already cited cover some of the facts that are not yet footnoted. I know a lot about COI editing. I have battled it numerous times over the past 9 years and 100K+ edits here. But I have not battled it by doing a search and massively deleting *references* that have been contributed to the encyclopedia, and other information without any attempt to determine whether it is useful or not. I have no problem with banning paid editing and asking PR firms to, instead, suggest changes and refs on the relevant Talk pages. But from what I have seen here, it looks to me like some editors are adding (mostly? partly?) legitimate information to articles in the arts area that in fact need that information, even though those editors did not add sufficient references in some cases. Moreover, Damiens.rf is deleting *references* in the mistaken belief that *all* articles on Wordpress are illegitimate; but ] explains when certain blogs are permissible. So I look forward to your response to the massive deletion that is going on, and I hope you will restore the material that has been deleted by Damiens.rf (and others?) when you determine if it is helpful and appropriate. All the best, -- ] (]) 18:59, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[
::]. The Asianess or otherwise of the subjects articles is irrelevant. Your raising it in the way you did is inflammatory and insulting. Your continuing attacks on Damiens.rf are unbecoming. Let's put that aside for now and look at other things.
::"As far as I can tell, Lia Chang is a legitimate journalist." Lets look at her linkedin page. . "Lia Chang. Filmmaker at Bev's Girl Films. New York, New York. Public Relations and Communications." PR. Not according to her a "legitimate journalist", a PR agent.
::"Someone should look carefully at what Duffbeerforme and Damiens.rf are doing to be sure, especially because of WP:BLP." I welcome anyone to look at what I'm doing here with respect to WP:BLP. Removing questionable sources from BLPs is not bad. If mistakes are made, it can be fixed. Err on the right side. This source is worse than questionable.
::"The references listed under "refspam" above look legitimate to me, at least at first glance." Try a second glance. First link goes to . This is a reproduction of a press release from Columbia University School . Contrary to the claim on Lia Changs blog that "All text, graphics, articles & photographs: © 2000-2014 Lia Chang Multimedia." this text is © 2015 Columbia University School of the Arts. Clearly not an independent reliable source. Second link goes to . This is a reproduction of a press release from . Contrary to the claim on Lia Changs blog that "All text, graphics, articles & photographs: © 2000-2014 Lia Chang Multimedia." this text is © 2015 Ford Foundation. Some Rights Reserved. Clearly not an independent reliable source. This sort of reproduction goes on. Not legitimate reporting. PR.
::Next time you accuse someone of racism, get your facts right first.
::This is not a case of multiple people thinking Lia Chang's personal blog is a good source and adding it to articles. This is one single editor (Asia Lauren) adding that one bad source to over 100 different Misplaced Pages articles. Clearly refspamming. ] (]) 14:20, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

==Declared COI, Edit Assistance==
I have a COI that precludes me from making this addition, and would like to request an uninvolved editor consider adding to the list of ''Notable People'' for ] the following:
:* Ted Twardzik, Sr. - founder of ], the world’s largest producer of pierogis
Thanks - ] (]) 20:32, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::Frankly, even though I occasionally like ] and even have a liking for ] (enough so that I can spell it), I don't think Ted Twardzik, Sr., or ] is notable enough for an article, or even for Mr. T to be added to the list of notable people in Shenandoah. The only refs I've seen are to the company website and to a promo piece in the ] ] Maybe it's the ] paper (a larger city nearby), but I've never heard of it and have no reason to believe that it's a reliable source, except perhaps for straight news stories in Schuylkill County. I'm a bit mixed on whether the ] should have an article, except for the firing and hiring of the outspoken pierogy, there's nothing even remotely notable about a normal ballpark promotion. I tend to think not. ]<sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub>
:::Ok, it's the ], but they appear to have dropped the "&" online. They even won a Pulitzer Prize 36 years ago, but the article you linked to still looks like a blatant home-town promo piece. ]<sub>(<font color="cc6600">]</font>)</sub> 21:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
::::Not to split hairs, but, I think, technically it's called a ]. Anyway, here's, additionally, a 1996 article from the '']'' , a 1990 article from the '']'' , a 1994 article from the '']'' , a 1998 article from the '']'' , a 2001 article from '']'' , a 2014 article from the website of the ] , an article from the website of the ] , and text from the website of the Shenandoah Chamber of Commerce . I can provide additional sources, but this (one national newspaper, two regional newspapers, two local newspapers, one national magazine, two ]-member university websites, and a trade association's website), objectively, would meet GNG criteria (''significant coverage'' spanning ''a period of time'' in ''RS'' that are ''independent of the subject'') required under our ] guideline for ''notable people'' inclusion. ] (]) 00:53, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
:::::Thank you, {{u|LavaBaron}}, for declaring your conflict of interest and for refraining from making the edit yourself (all too rare, unfortunately!). The best place to make your (apparently reasonable) suggestion is the talk page of the article, ]. You can start your post with {{tl|request edit}} (exactly so, with the curly parentheses) to attract the attention of other editors. ] (]) 07:32, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::Note: I've updated ] with some of the references mentioned above, did some copy editing, and removed the notability and advert templates. -- ] ] ] 08:08, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::Thanks, ], I normally would broach a COI edit request on the Talk page, however, intentionally bypassed it since it hasn't been visited in five years and this seemed to me (apparently erroneously) like a clerical edit, rather than one that would necessitate the level of scrutiny it apparently requires. I do have to admit I greet with some bemused irony that the leading name currently on the ] ''Notable People'' list whose sanctity my fellow editor is admirably and very passionately arguing to protect from the intrusion of vested interests is ], the president of the ] ... anyway, thanks for your consideration and kind regards - ] (]) 08:56, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

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    Chris Antonopoulos (footballer) and Fort Lauderdale Strikers

    Chris Antonopoulos (footballer) and numerous Fort Lauderdale Strikers (1988–1994) related articles, which Antonopoulos appears to have been a player for, have been edited by Amplifyplantz33. The user seems to be Antonopoulos and received a notice to disclose their conflict of interest on December 4 by @Sammi Brie. The user did not respond and does not appear to have made an effort to disclose a conflict of interest as they are required to. The user also created the Antonopoulos article and is responsible for the majority of the content added to it. The only indication the user appears to have made to disclose their potential conflict of interest was to write "Chris Antonopoulos" on their user page. Raskuly (talk) 07:30, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

    I've removed a lot of unsourced material from the Antonopoulos article, but clearly the problems here extend rather further than that. Axad12 (talk) 15:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
    The user has now denied on their talk page that they are Antonopoulos. It must be admitted, however, that they appear to be a WP:SPA dedicated solely to promoting Antonopoulos and mentioning him on as many articles as possible.
    It seems unclear whether the user has a COI or is just a fan who is unaware of the policies on sourcing and promotion.
    Any thoughts on whether Antonopoulos satisfies WP:GNG and whether detailed info on beach soccer activities is usually considered suitable for inclusion? Axad12 (talk) 15:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
    It seems unlikely that they would be so obsessed with Antonopoulos if they were not either him or someone closely associated with him, and their response is quite odd. There does appear to be a Chris Antonopoulos who signed a professional contract with the Fort Lauderdale Strikers, and to me that satisfies notability as the beach soccer and pre-professional soccer contract section of his career would not make Antonopoulos notable enough to have an article alone. It is of note that Antonopoulos does not appear to have been the primary goalkeeper during his tenure and that the primary goalkeepers were Jorge Valenzuela, Mario Jimenez, and Jim St. Andre at this time. It appears Antonopoulos only made two appearances between 1993 and 1994 which is when he was apparently signed to the team. From the perspective of someone who was not directly involved with the Strikers but would want to write about them, Valenzuela and Jimenez would probably be higher on the priority list than a goalkeeper who only made two appearances. The only parts about Antonopoulos in the article that are specific to him are praising his accomplishments. Raskuly (talk) 22:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
    Agreed 100%. Axad12 (talk) 22:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
    Additionally, the photos that the user have all uploaded appear to indicate that whoever is writing the article had close connections with Antonopoulos throughout his career if they in fact have the right to upload them. Raskuly (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
    The user continues to obsess over this article and to add large amounts of trivial non-encyclopaedic detail and generally promotional material. Are we really sure that the subject satisfies WP:GNG? Axad12 (talk) 00:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    I generally go by pro athletes being notable enough to have an article, but Antonopoulos appears to have barely been a pro athlete, and like I brought up with the writer before they accused me of acting uncivil, it would make more sense to write articles about Antonopoulos' teammates. I'm not in favor of having an article on Misplaced Pages who's express purpose is to promote someone, even if they may meet the requirement of general notability. This is the first time I've dealt with an issue like this, so I apologize if I am not understanding things correctly as to what makes someone notable enough. Raskuly (talk) 01:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
    Article is notable. And I deem there's a consensus to proceed with option #1 - tag the 2 pages. RememberOrwell (talk) 22:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

    Marc Jorgenson

    No edits since 2008. No need for action. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    Blatantly promotional article and severe failure of WP:NOTPROMO with puffery removed by users before. 3 single-purpose accounts as well as 3 IPs of close proximity have edited the article in around 2008. There definitely is signs of paid editing or people connected with subject editing the article, so a block of these users and IPs should suffice alongside the deletion of the article. MimirIsSmart (talk) 06:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Ilyas El Maliki

    I think the two users are the same person and probably work for El Maliki to write the article. 🄻🄰 22:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

    The photo of El Maliki was uploaded by User:MoroccanEd 🄻🄰 22:57, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
    See Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/MoroccanEd. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:38, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

    Lindy Li

    User Napoleonjosephine2020 has been registered since 2020 and has almost exclusively edited Lindy Li's page. Since Kamala Harris has lost the US Presidential election, Li, previously a stalwart Biden/Harris partisan has made multiple appearances on TV attacking the Democratic Party and has seemingly declared she has left the Democratic Party. Several users (including myself) have edited Li's page to include these recent news stories. Napoleonjosephine2020, whose edit/user history shows her praising Li in laudatory terms, has repeatedly objected to inclusion of this information, deriding it as minor and irrelevant. Napoleonjosephine2020 has also engaged in personal attacks against other users and acted combative. Multiple unregistered IP addresses starting with 2601:41:4300:9370 (presumably coming from the same location) have also removed these edits, with a writing style similar to Napoleonjosepine2020, accusing other users of bad faith and using the same rationales for why this information should not be included. Napoleonjosephine2020 has been subject to temporary editing restrictions due to their disruptive editing, I suspect these unregistered IP addresses are Napoleonjosephine2020 making edits outside their account so that their registered account is not subject to further sanctions for disruptive editing.

    Given this pattern of behavior, I think the evidence points to Napoleonjosephine2020 having a personal connection to the subject, with an interest in violating NPOV leading them to repeatedly engage in disruptive editing/edit warring.Vosotros32 (talk) 01:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Vosotros32: Prior to your filing report here, the article was already semi-protected until March 2, and the editor in question was indefinitely pblocked from editing that article. I'm not sure what more you think this report is going to accomplish. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 13:36, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

    State University of New York at Geneseo

    Soft blocked for promotional username representing Geneseo's Communications and Marketing (CommMark) team. voorts (talk/contributions) 01:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    This editor has only edited the college's article, their username indicates a potential connection ("Comms" may indicate a role in communications at the college and 1871 is the date when the college official opened), and they have not responded to a brief but direct question on their User Talk page about this potential connection. Their edits are not objectionable but WP:PAID is not optional and our conflict of interest guideline exists for good reasons. ElKevbo (talk) 23:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    Kathryn Babayan

    Kathryn Babayan was an academic article I made two weeks ago. As of the past 24 hours, there is an IP editor on a rotating IP address that has been making wholesale wording changes to the article. Some of the changes are okay, more detailed than I had been, but I'm wondering if they're edging into promotional territory for her books. I tried asking the first version of the IP editor if they were Babayan themselves, which I feel is likely, but I received no response. And they're back to making changes just now with a different IP.

    Suggestions on what should be done? Silverseren 22:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

    The BLP is bloated with puffery and sources. It should be shortened substantially. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC).
    This is how it was before the IP changed things, which I think was a good summary of her work. No idea what you're talking about with the sources however. There are technically only 9 in use in the article, with only one of which being a primary source from her university page. Silverseren 01:01, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
    Just revert to the last good version before the IP started editing. If the user continues to edit the article then revert them again and request page protection at WP:RPPI. Axad12 (talk) 01:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
    K. I've gone ahead and made the revert, though I kept the lede change the IP made. Since I think that was actually an improvement. Silverseren 01:52, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
    Article has now been protected to prevent further disruptive editing . With thanks, Axad12 (talk) 17:23, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

    Captain Beany

    User:CaptainBeany has been editing the Captain Beany article a few times over the past 16 years, as well as other edits related to the subject's novelty political party and former museum. They've made no edits outside of this.

    In 2010 they identified themselves as the subject and asked for a sourced paragraph about a fraud conviction to be removed from the article. Discussions in response at Editor Assistance and BLPN decided that this was appropriate biographical content and should not be removed.

    I posted a belated COI message on their talk page last year, after noticing the issue's history when working on the article: User:CaptainBeany had removed the paragraph in 2016, with nobody realising. The user didn't respond to the talk page template, and today they removed the paragraph again. Belbury (talk) 13:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

    The user replied to the COIN notification, though exactly what they're trying to communicate is beyond me. --Richard Yin (talk) 05:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

    Science of Identity Foundation

    No substantial evidence indicating a conflict of interest has been presented in this complaint. As such, I am closing this discussion as groundless/failing to state a case.When filing at this board, Sokoreq is reminded to explicitly state the reasons that they believe a conflict of interest (as defined in WP:COI). In particular, it is important to to avoid casting aspersions by making complaints here while failing to state a reasonable case to conclude that a COI exists. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:08, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

    The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


    This senior editor reverting my constructive edits repeatedly, in which I created a new section to simplify the content and cited reference. However, it appears that the editor is maintaining the article and may have a conflict of interest. Even though I have warned the editor, but now editor has started an edit war. Sokoreq (talk) 18:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Sokoreq, why haven't you attempted to discuss this at Talk:Science of Identity Foundation first? Schazjmd (talk) 18:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    Agreed. Looking over the talk page and edits, I don't see anything suggesting Hipal has a COI. Nor do I see anything to evidence that Sokoreq has a vested interest in editing the article, although it is curious that they went straight to the noticeboard without participating in the talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 18:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    @C.Fred You are right, I was surprised that the editor keeps reverting my edits. This behavior suggests editor may have conflicts of interest or feel a sense of ownership of the page. Sokoreq (talk) 19:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    Reverting your edits is evidence that they disagree with you, which is allowed. Disagreeing with you is in no way evidence of a conflict of interest. MrOllie (talk) 19:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    @MrOllie Yeh, I agree with you, but how many times ? And why? did you check my edit ? The editor was doing endless reverts, even after I requested clarification about their concerns on the talk page. Sokoreq (talk) 20:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    You were also 'doing endless reverts'. Do you have a conflict of interest? MrOllie (talk) 20:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    Did you check my edit? What is wrong with that edit? I would like to know so that I can improve myself for next time. Please be specific. Thanks Sokoreq (talk) 20:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    You can improve yourself for next time by recognizing that reverts are a normal part of Misplaced Pages's editing process (see WP:BRD), and by refraining from making unfounded accusations towards other editors just because they reverted you. MrOllie (talk) 20:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    I followed WP:BRD, but the editor didn't adhere to the discussion part: 'Talk to that one person until the two of you have reached an agreement.' Anyway, did you check my edit that the editor reverted several times? That would be really helpful. Sokoreq (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    No, you began edit warring after you were reverted. That is not following WP:BRD. And you still have not posted at Talk:Science of Identity Foundation. MrOllie (talk) 20:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    The editor reverted my edits without any explanation and did so repeatedly. I am still waiting for your insight. Did you check my edit? What mistake did I make? I want to understand; any help would be appreciated. Sokoreq (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    Some of the mistakes that you made were edit warring and posting spurious talk page warnings (and now a noticeboard entry) rather than discussing your edits on the article's associated talk page. I'm not going to contribute to compounding those errors by debating the content with you here. If you want to continue with this, I would suggest that you withdraw the allegations you have made against Hipal, including the spurious vandalism, COI, and harrassment warnings you placed on their talk page, apologize to Hipal, and then go to Talk:Science of Identity Foundation where active discussions are currently taking place without your participation. MrOllie (talk) 20:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    You are trying to make it seem like it's my fault only, and you are missing the point. Anyway, thanks; I have already explained my COI concern below. Sokoreq (talk) 21:09, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Schazjmd Already, there is a lot going on in that talk page. Sokoreq (talk) 18:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    @Sokoreq I agree that it's daunting. However, you don't get to override discussion by jumping straight to a noticeboard, and especially not COIN.—C.Fred (talk) 18:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    @C.Fred I apologize, but the editor's behavior was strange and did not make any sense. Now, after seeing the article history, it looks like the editor has a sense of ownership or maybe a conflict of interest. other than that, I don't have any other evidence to prove the COI. I leave the final decision to you, but now I am feeling Anxious about whether I should touch that article because it seems like that editor owns it. This is strange! Sokoreq (talk) 19:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    I think this can be closed as a groundless complaint. Sokoreq has continued to edit since opening this complaint but has yet to try to discuss the edits in question at Talk:Science of Identity Foundation. No evidence has been provided for conflict of interest, other than the OP's apparent assumption that there is no other possible reason that their edits would be reverted. Schazjmd (talk) 21:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
    The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

    User:Kateblau

    Multiple draft creations of spammy company articles in a relatively short period of time:

    Received a COI notice January 5th but has continued to edit without declaring any COI. Spencer 02:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

    здравствуйте! я создаю статьи о компаниях по киборгизации и автоматизации, научных деятелей в этой области, это будет сделано в короткий промежуток времени, потому что проделана большая аналитическая работа по данным компаниям и я загружаю уже составленную ранее информацию, это не реклама, я допустил несколько ошибок, потому что впервые на википедии как автор, пожалуйста, я могу дальше создавать страницы? Kateblau (talk) 18:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
    Hello! I am creating articles about companies in cyborgization and automation, scientific figures in this field, this will be done in a short period of time, because a lot of analytical work has been done on these companies and I am uploading previously compiled information, this is not advertising, I made several mistakes, because this is my first time on Misplaced Pages as an author, can I please continue to create pages? Kateblau (talk) 18:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
    It appears that you are using a LLM like ChatGPT to create these drafts, and that your own communications are machine translated. Is that true? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

    John Ortberg

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    Timothydw82 is a Single Purpose Account which is used solely to promote, defend and censor valid information about John Ortberg. Timothydw82 admits to consulting with Ortberg about the article on User talk:Timothydw82 and has also used that page to make disparaging comments about Ortberg's son, Daniel Lavery. This is both a serious COI and POV problem. He has been warned before by other editors. My most recent warning (for POV editing) was met with what seems to be feigned incomprehension and "Do you work for Misplaced Pages?". I think it is time to put an end to this farce. DanielRigal (talk) 02:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

    Thanks for sharing your concerns. I’d like to address the points you’ve raised to clarify any misunderstandings about my contributions and intentions.
    First, while my account may appear to have a narrow focus, my goal has always been to ensure that articles on Misplaced Pages adhere to its principles of neutrality, verifiability, and reliable sourcing. My edits related to John Ortberg and related topics are aimed at upholding these standards, not promoting or censoring information. If there are specific examples where you believe I’ve violated these principles, I welcome a constructive discussion to address them.
    Second, regarding my consultation with John Ortberg: I acknowledge that I have communicated with him, as I’ve disclosed on my user talk page. However, my involvement has been strictly limited to ensuring that edits align with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and reflect accurate information.
    Third, concerning the comments about Daniel Lavery, I understand how sensitive these matters are. My intent was not to disparage anyone, and if any of my remarks were perceived as inappropriate, please bring them to my attention.
    I'd also like to express my disappointment in your accusing me via direct message of treating you like "idiots". That felt like a curt, uncalled for accusation with little to no dialogue or support. You have not engaged in a discussion with me but clearly expressed your desire to see me blocked for little to no good reason I can discern.
    Finally, regarding warnings from other editors: I value feedback and strive to learn from it. I am more than willing to engage in dialogue to resolve disputes and improve the quality of articles. If there are ongoing concerns about my edits, I encourage the use of formal dispute resolution processes so we can work collaboratively toward a solution. Timothydw82 (talk) 02:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
    Is that AI generated text? I ran it through a few different detectors and most thought that it was at least partially AI generated. DanielRigal (talk) 03:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
    Unbelievable. Indeffed. Thank you, Daniel. Bishonen | tålk 20:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC).

    Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation

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    Suspected undisclosed COI editors. Single-purpose accounts used exclusively to edit on this person and his foundation. All of the edits are complimentary, and almost entirely unsourced.

    I warned Channy Jung () and 203.239.154.130 () but both have continued editing Mirae Asset Park Hyeon Joo Foundation and have ignored the warning (Channy Jung edit, Channy Jung second edit IP edit). Chisu1020 has been inactive for a while though, but same pattern of behavior.

    I recently rewrote Park Hyeon-joo entirely to get rid of the unsourced promotional-like writing . State of article before the rewrite: .

    Also worth noting the kowiki version of Park's article is similarly fluffy. I suspect Park/his foundation are watching these articles.

    seefooddiet (talk) 05:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

    Those accounts, as well as 203.239.154.131, all seem to be SPA/COI accounts which are not responding to multiple discussion attempts, and should be blocked for some period of time to get their attention. The "foundation" article seems like it would also fail GNG, and should probably be either deleted or merged into the Hyeon-joo article. TiggerJay(talk) 06:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

    Misplaced Pages Writers Marks a Milestone with 1,000 Successful Misplaced Pages Page Publications

    Well, that's what they say on openpr.com. For the interested. I was going to link it, but my edit was not saved because it contains a new external link to a site registered on Misplaced Pages's blacklist or Wikimedia's global blacklist. Despite that, it seems to have some WP-presence: Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

    @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: That's just a press release site. The company that published it is already listed on WP:PAIDLIST at Misplaced Pages:List_of_paid_editing_companies#Hire_Wikipedia_Writers. SmartSE (talk) 15:08, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

    Paul Devlin (footballer)

    The editor claims to be the subject of the article and is repeatedly adding altered statistics, replacing ones which appear to be referenced. I and Struway2 have made suggestions at the editor's talk page. I am reluctant to continue reverting in the circumstances (for all I know the edits are correct, if unsourced), but on the other hand it could be a hoax or subtle vandalism. What's the best way forwards? John (talk) 12:27, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

    Their stats look correct for what they are, per the sources in the career stats table lower down the article where they appear in the totals columns, but they include data for matches that don't belong in the infobox. The editor has removed all but big-league clubs from the infobox, lumped together separate spells with the same club, and included statistics for cup competitions; I've explained to them that conventionally we don't do that. The editor also suggests there are errors and omissions, which could well be true, but they haven't yet elaborated. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:00, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
    They are now blocked from making changes to that article. They are more than welcome to suggest changes on the article's talk page. Jauerback/dude. 20:07, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

    User:SHEJO VARGHESE

    User:SHEJO VARGHESE (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) Undisclosed COI editor writing an autobiography at Draft:Shejo Varghese. — 💽 LunaEclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ 20:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

    With the page in draft space and placed for CSD, and the copious user page warnings, with a grand total of 3 edits by this apparent COI editor, I would caution WP:BITE. I think no further action is likely necessary as their draft page will either be deleted under CSD but failing that would most certainly fail a formal AfD. TiggerJay(talk) 20:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
    Tiggerjay, my bad :( I had no intention to come off as overly harsh. — 💽 LunaEclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ 20:49, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
    Just remember to have good faith -- when they have only made three edits and stopped editing at 16:52, and then subsequently 4 consecutive posts to their talk page is a bit overbearing. It would be one thing if they were editing between your posts (so it appears they are ignoring you), but in this case, zero edits since the first notice, there's not a huge need to escalate unless they continue to persist in unconstructive behavior after the notifications. TiggerJay(talk) 00:46, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

    Gilles Epié

    Epie2020 has acknowledged a personal connection to Gilles Epié on their talk page but does not seem to consider this a conflict of interest. They were most recently warned about this behavior on 20 December 2023 but continue to make edits to the Gilles Epié article. Vegantics (talk) 22:41, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

    Burning River Buckets

    User:C.A. Buttons has identified himself as the owner of the Burning River Buckets basketball team on his talk page, on my talk page, and on the article's talk page. I've tried over a period of months (and on each of those talk pages) to share information on the COI policy and the need for reliable sources, to no apparent avail. Perhaps others could give it try. -- Pemilligan (talk) 01:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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