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| ] starts, ''Due to COVID-19, the 2020 show season has been truncated. Currently, their first show will be in Eau Claire, WI, June 13-14.'' Does supersede that, or wasn't today's flyover a "real" show? (i couldn't see today's flight.) ] (]) 17:21, 2 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
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| ==Grammar== | |||
| == No female demo fighter pilots == | |||
| Part of the article reads as follows: | |||
| This article can be improved by stating the fact that throughout the Blue Angels' entire 76 year history, they have had a grand total of ZERO female fighter pilots assigned to fly in their airshows. | |||
| For comparison the USAF Thunderbirds have had FIVE. These are ], Samantha Weeks, Caroline Jensen, ], Lauren Schlichting (with Weeks & Curran having flown as solo). | |||
| This reorganization permitted the establishment of a commanding officer vice a flight leader, added support officers, and further redefined the squadron's mission emphasizing the support of recruiting efforts. | |||
| The most obvious explanation here is ], which is evidence that the US Navy is still stuck in a ] mentality. Someone might be aware of a source that highlights this. Until any explanation can be referenced, the standing recommendation here is that the simple fact be included in the article. The reason for this can be added after a solid source provides an explanation. And I expect that the US Navy itself would be eager to give their official reason. But as far as I have seen to date, no one questions them on this. It would seem that no one notices or no one cares. But at a minimum, the female fighter pilots who want to join the Blue Angels must certainly care. | |||
| What the heck does 'vice a flight leader' mean? If i even knew what it was supposed to mean, I would make an edit myself, but i'm lost. --] 21:36, August 4, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| So that is the hard stat being highlighted here. HALF of the adult population are women. '''ZERO PERCENT''' of the Blue Angels demo fighter pilots have been women. --] (]) 20:08, 10 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
| I'm not an expert on the Blue Angels per se, but I do know that in the U.S. Navy, the command structure generally consists of a Commanding Officer who in the Blue Angels is also known as the Squadron Leader or "Boss." I think the editor was attempting to say that the team has a Commanding Officer "INSTEAD OF" (vice or versus) a flight leader. ] 22:27, 3 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| == Moscow == | |||
| "Vice" is navy talk for "instead of." The only people I've ever known who use the expression are current and former naval officers. ] (]) 15:06, 18 April 2009 (UTC)RKH | |||
| Hi, i think it will good to be inside article,check and add it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcNvX5SiABY ] (]) 19:25, 21 August 2022 (UTC) | |||
| == Harley Hall == | |||
| "Vice" is used by more than "current and former naval officers". | |||
| According to this article from stripes.com, former commander Harley Hall was the last Navy pilot shot down in the Vietnam War and the last POW of the war. Fifty years after his disappearance his son was able to fly with the team. | |||
| vice prep | |||
| instead of; as a substitute for | |||
| https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2023-03-23/blue-angels-flight-son-50th-anniversary-pilot-death-9585653.html | |||
| Expand your vocabulary vice insisting that nobody uses the word except current and former naval officers. | |||
| This will be interesting information to somehow include in the article, or possibly use to start a stub article for Harvey Hall. | |||
| See also vice president, viceroy, vicar... | |||
| <small> — ] • ]</small> 00:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC) <small> — ] • ]</small> 00:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| == Training and weekly routine (addition of information) == | |||
| Sometime in the 90s the Blue Angels transitioned to the Charlie version of the F/A-18 Hornet. The ] section is outdated. In either 2004 or 2005 they transitioned to the ]. --] 21:08, 2 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| Living in the Imperial County for over 21 years, I would love to add that the Blue Angels make time and effort to make an impact in the despite all their training routines! I am new to Misplaced Pages editing, but feel like this is an important aspect of the Blue Angels that most may not know about. ] (]) 22:10, 28 April 2023 (UTC) | |||
| * They may use a couple Super Hornets, but most are Hornets. See . -] 21:18, 2 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| * Their FAQ page only lists A & B models. The Hornet that crashed in the April accident was an A model. :( If you have another source, please post it. -] 21:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *The blues do not use the F/A-18E. Note the differnce in intakes; the angular one is the defining feature for the echo form. | |||
| F/A-18A-C: http://johncarmichaels.typepad.com/carmichaels_position/images/blue_angel.JPG | |||
| F/A-18E: http://www.sci.fi/~fta/vfa9l.jpg ] 00:34, 9 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Final accident report == | ||
| ] posted this document about the 2007 crash: https://libraryonline.erau.edu/online-full-text/ntsb/miscellaneous-reports/BlueAngelsJAGReport.pdf ] (]) 03:17, 8 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
| == Harold "Hal" Heagerty == | |||
| While the "show routine" section is interesting, I can't help but note that earlier in the article it said that the weather (and venue, I suppose) depends on which routine is used – a "high" show during clear or almost-clear conditions (a couple cirrus clouds wouldn't make a difference) as opposed to a "low" or "flat" show. It's safe to assume the routine in the "Show Routine" section is a high show. How does it differ from a "low" or "flat" show? And for that matter, how about someone add a description to each maneuver? In the context of this article, what precisely is a "Fleur de Lis"? How about a "Diamond Dirty Eight"? And given that the routine is completely different in 2008 as opposed to this 2007 routine, maybe that whole section doesn't belong. Thoughts? —] (]) 22:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| My Uncle was in the Blue Angles, but I see no mention of his name I have photos but you show no record of him ] (]) 13:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
| I have official photos of him... his original seal photos of his plane I just don't understand him not being on your list ] (]) 13:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC) | |||
| : A video I have says they have high, medium and low versions of their show. The lower ones leave out loops and climbs. I doubt the video would count as a ] though. That basic is about all I tell you. -] (]) 22:16, 31 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Media section miss == | |||
| In this section, they list "maximum" ceilings for the low and flat shows. I'm almost positive the term that's needed here is "minimum" ceilings. Note the "at least" (i.e., "minimum") qualifier for the high show. There really wouldn't be a "maximum" ceiling for ANY show routine, other than "low enough to be seen." (not logged in) Jororo05] (]) 15:44, 8 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
| No mention of the eponymously titled 1961 pop song. ] (]) 23:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Show schedule section added to the article == | |||
| I read the Air Force Thunderbirds ariticle, and enjoyed it very much, I felt that the show schedulde listed there would be just as helpful to the average Wiki reader so I've just updated it with the 2009 show schedule from the official website. This section can continue to be updated from year to year. | |||
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| <b>NOTE:</b> If someone has the time to do the research on this, I've put in some of the locations actual city names, when it's possible that they should be NAS bases? I'm not positive on this, but would appreciate any help here if someone doesn't mind looking that up and updating the article for everyone else. In most occasions I believe that the airshows are from air bases, being either Airforce or Navy or whatever. | |||
| Thanks ] (]) 16:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| * A link to can provide exactly the same amount of information, as well as not building ] into the article. I propose that this section should be removed. ] (]) 08:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ==First military aerial demonstration team? == | |||
| Does anyone have a source that the Blue Angels were the first? I am currently doing research on Vice Adm. Frederick Trapnell a top naval test pilot who, in 1930 along with two others, was assigned to a newly-created team called the "Three Flying Fish" at NAS Anacostia (Flight Test Section) in DC. Flying the new Curtiss F6C-4's, they toured the country for the Navy performing aerial demonstrations.] (]) 00:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| With no other comments immediately forthcoming, I have adjusted the article, removing the claim in question unless a citation can be found (which I am looking for- so far I have found citations for the above named team being the first).] (]) 23:48, 30 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Removal of the "May 2011 Incident and subsequent stand-down" == | |||
| ] (]) 19:43, 26 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
| I wrote the above mentioned section and I see it was removed with "ah, article uses US date (MDY) format elsewhere" as the reason, and I'm not sure what that means... can someone clarify this for me, please? I don't want to redo it and find it removed again, since I spent a fair amount of time on this today. | |||
| : No, you started the section and it has not been removed. Check the article.. -] (]) 19:49, 26 May 2011 (UTC) | |||
| : I see it there... sorry for jumping the gun. :) | |||
| 26 May, 2011 <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:57, 26 May 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Formal designation and hierarchy == | |||
| Given that the Blue Angels acts and functions as a unit, wouldn't it stand to reason that they have some kind of official designation, like the "61st Air Public Relations Squadron" or something similar? I see no mention of anything like it in the text. I realize that they are an "Aeorbatic Exhibtion Team" (or whatever it was called, I can't see it right now), but if personnel (pilots, flight surgeons, mechanics, etc) get assigned from other units surely the must be assigned TO something other than a "team"? Or do everyone remain at their units and are simply "on loan" to the Blue Angels? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:17, 31 August 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
| == Not notable but ... == | |||
| Was taken aback by this <ref>http://airshowstuff.com/v4/2015/us-navy-blue-angels-will-transition-to-unmanned-aircraft-for-2018-season/</ref> - but noted the date! ] (]) 07:58, 2 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :Nice find! We'll be deleting that one from articles for years! - ] (]) 08:40, 2 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
| :- A good April Fool's day thing. :) -] (]) 13:21, 2 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
| {{reflist talk}} | |||
| :::Yes it is. There is one aviation-related AprilFools joke that shows up in articles every once in a while, but I can't remember which one it was. Not to be confused with outright hoaxes such as the 797 BWB hoax that shows up every so often. - ] (]) 21:59, 2 April 2015 (UTC) | |||
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first show of 2020
This section starts, Due to COVID-19, the 2020 show season has been truncated. Currently, their first show will be in Eau Claire, WI, June 13-14. Does this supersede that, or wasn't today's flyover a "real" show? (i couldn't see today's flight.) 96.244.220.178 (talk) 17:21, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
No female demo fighter pilots
This article can be improved by stating the fact that throughout the Blue Angels' entire 76 year history, they have had a grand total of ZERO female fighter pilots assigned to fly in their airshows.
For comparison the USAF Thunderbirds have had FIVE. These are Nicole Malachowski, Samantha Weeks, Caroline Jensen, Michelle Curran, Lauren Schlichting (with Weeks & Curran having flown as solo).
The most obvious explanation here is sexism, which is evidence that the US Navy is still stuck in a Tailhook mentality. Someone might be aware of a source that highlights this. Until any explanation can be referenced, the standing recommendation here is that the simple fact be included in the article. The reason for this can be added after a solid source provides an explanation. And I expect that the US Navy itself would be eager to give their official reason. But as far as I have seen to date, no one questions them on this. It would seem that no one notices or no one cares. But at a minimum, the female fighter pilots who want to join the Blue Angels must certainly care.
So that is the hard stat being highlighted here. HALF of the adult population are women. ZERO PERCENT of the Blue Angels demo fighter pilots have been women. --Tdadamemd19 (talk) 20:08, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Moscow
Hi, i think it will good to be inside article,check and add it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcNvX5SiABY Bikar Orxan (talk) 19:25, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
Harley Hall
According to this article from stripes.com, former commander Harley Hall was the last Navy pilot shot down in the Vietnam War and the last POW of the war. Fifty years after his disappearance his son was able to fly with the team.
This will be interesting information to somehow include in the article, or possibly use to start a stub article for Harvey Hall.
— MrDolomite • Talk 00:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC) — MrDolomite • Talk 00:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Training and weekly routine (addition of information)
Living in the Imperial County for over 21 years, I would love to add that the Blue Angels make time and effort to make an impact in the community despite all their training routines! I am new to Misplaced Pages editing, but feel like this is an important aspect of the Blue Angels that most may not know about. Aaronvillanueva123 (talk) 22:10, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Final accident report
ERAU posted this document about the 2007 crash: https://libraryonline.erau.edu/online-full-text/ntsb/miscellaneous-reports/BlueAngelsJAGReport.pdf WhisperToMe (talk) 03:17, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Harold "Hal" Heagerty
My Uncle was in the Blue Angles, but I see no mention of his name I have photos but you show no record of him 209.152.159.100 (talk) 13:52, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
I have official photos of him... his original seal photos of his plane I just don't understand him not being on your list 209.152.159.100 (talk) 13:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Media section miss
No mention of the eponymously titled 1961 pop song. 70.69.20.216 (talk) 23:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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