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== Jan 2023 == | ||
| @] Hello, its one thing to make valid criticism of an edit, its yet another to make adhominem attacks against other editors like you did here with no regards to ]. If you have doubts regarding my ], you are welcome to discuss the edits with ] and by ], so long as you stop making ]. | |||
| Telling a site administrator to "get a clue" over legitimate edits to an article is perhaps not the wisest thing for you to be doing. Your attitude perhaps needs to change if you wish to continue in good standing on this project. ] (]) 04:27, 14 April 2017 (UTC) | |||
| ~~ ] (]) 14:58 28 January 2023 | |||
| == Dreamcast Sales Numbers == | |||
| == Brief informations regarding an insufferable narcissist == | |||
| Please actually check out the source I posted. Its from Sega of Japans offical Website. It isn't from a press release but from the Dreamcast page in their Hardware History section. They (the page doesn't have an author listed) state that the Dreamcast sold more than 10 million units. Just because someone else once falsly claimed that it sold 10.6 million units, which Sega doesn't even claim just that it sold more than 10 million units, doesn't mean that the 9.13 million sales number is written in stone. The source for the Playstation 2 sales numbers on Misplaced Pages is basically the same thing, a page from the offical Sony Website about their hardware history so I do not understand why this page couldn't be used as a source for the sales numbers of the Sega Dreamcast despite literally being from Sega themselve. ] (]) 09:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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| :Here is the relevant excerpt. The page was released on Novmeber 5, 2018 and is entirely in japanese: | |||
| And to think this ghastly man was worshipped by liberals… Really sounds like a great book. I shall attempt to work it into the Obama article. It contains crucial insights. --] (]) 22:21, 4 May 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :セガ最後の家庭用ゲーム機『ドリームキャスト』は累計1,000万台あまりが世に送り出されました。 | |||
| :Which translates to: | |||
| :Sega's last home video game console, the Dreamcast, sold a total of more than 10 million units. | |||
| :Here is a link to the page as well as a link to an archive of the page from 3 days ago: | |||
| :https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/column/column_06.html | |||
| :https://web.archive.org/web/20241007020058/https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/column/column_06.html ] (]) 09:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| ::{{U|178.27.108.243}}, I reviewed the source that you provided; however, it appears to be close to a blog post, and not obviously more reliable than the 9.13 million CESA figure reported in Zackariasson ''et al.'' (], 2012). | |||
| ::More broadly, what happens on the ] article has no direct bearing on ]. You are now edit-warring against a prior talk page consensus, complete with a notice not to change the sales figure without consensus. | |||
| ⚫ | ::If you would like to discuss this further, it may be more productive to do so with the community at ], rather than on my user talk page.] (]) 10:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | ||
| ::{{U|178.27.108.243}}, tangentially, fails ] because the sources do not state that {{tq|"'']'' is the best-selling Sega Saturn game."}} Regardless of the truth of the claim, you should be aware that Misplaced Pages has strict sourcing requirements that do not permit editors to engage in ] ] of reliable sources to reach conclusions not directly supported by the citations provided.] (]) 10:28, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::You should change the Misplaced Pages page for Virtua Fighter 2 as well since its state there that: the top-selling game worldwide for the Sega Saturn . | |||
| :::Can I add Virtua Fighter 2 as the best selling game if I write that it was only the best selling in Japan? | |||
| :::I wasn't aware of 10.6 million claim nor of the debate about its credibility that happened nearly a decaded ago. | |||
| :::I however fail to see how that claim and debate means that the Dreamcast section of: ''The encyclopedia of Sega video game consoles'' from Sega of Japan's offical website which according to the banner on its index page (found here: https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/index.html) is: ''based on existing documents/materials at Sega'' (Original Text in Japanese: セガに現存する資料をもとに、歴代セガハードをご紹介) isn't a crediable source. I doubt that the japanese employee who created those pages used english internet discussions and rumors about console sales numbers as a source. | |||
| :::Your claim about Sega maybe just rounded up the Saturns unit sales number to 6 million also is just your speculation since you don't provide any proof. | |||
| :::In the case of the Mega Drive which sold about 3.58 million units according to Famitus the Megad Drive section of: ''The encyclopedia of Sega video game consoles'' states that: ''More than 3 million units of the “Mega Drive” were sold in Japan.'' (Original Text in Japanese: 『メガドライブ』は日本において300万台以上が販売されました。) | |||
| :::This doesn't prove that Sega didn't round up the Sega Saturn unit sales number but is at least an example form the same source that shows that for one of their other consoles they definitly didn't just round up to the next higher number. ] (]) 12:53, 28 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Mujaheddin == | |||
| ==1957 alleged Jordanian military coup attempt== | |||
| Could you give your opinion on the article? It is very complex which made it difficult for me to organize my thoughts, I hope you can point out to any possible inconsistencies. ] (]) 01:16, 6 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :I thought the article was very well-written, not to mention long overdue—it's kind of shocking that it took so long to create an article about such an important event in Jordanian history. ''America's Great Game'' by Hugh Wilford has some additional for the "U.S. false flag" theory, though it doesn't add much to the facts as you've outlined them.] (]) 01:42, 6 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
| Hello i noticed that you eliminated my modification on the page mujaheddin that says that mujaheddin were NATO allies, they were allies due to intervention of mujaheddin in the gulf war against Saddam Hussein ] (]) 13:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == Your AE topic ban is lifted == | |||
| ⚫ | :{{U|Boackandwhite}}, thank you for reaching out. Please provide a ] for ]. Regards,] (]) 03:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
| ::okay i have a pdf about units involved in 1991 gulf war that include mujaheddin i'll use it ] (]) 09:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :::Since your source does not directly state that NATO is an ally of the mujahideen, your edit failed ] and has been If you disagree, then please provide a page number and quote of the relevant excerpt that verifies the claim. Thank you.] (]) 08:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| == A cup of tea for you! == | |||
| This is in response to your following e-mail: | |||
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| :"Given that six months have now passed since you imposed an American Politics topic ban on me for incivility and personal attacks at the "Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections" article, I am writing to request that you consider lifting it on the grounds that it is no longer necessary. I have no intention of returning to the vitriolic talk page rants that got me in trouble, or even of relitigating the question of whether Russia truly interfered, which seems to have been resolved by more recent sources. I have been on Misplaced Pages for seven years and edited in a wide range of topics, including promoting one Featured Article, and have only been topic banned once, due to a combination of a heated election season and what I still consider admins's general trigger-happiness in this particularly contentious area of the encyclopedia. I maintain that six months is a long enough punishment to serve as a deterrent, and that prolonging the ban would primarily impede my ability to edit in areas tangentially related to American Politics without benefitting the project." | |||
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| Your request is granted and the topic ban is lifted. Best regards, <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 13:13, 12 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| :: Didn't you say to {{ping|Sandstein}} that you "had no intention" of returning to that page? Pretty quick for no intention.] (]) 02:44, 13 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::No, as a matter of fact I didn't, but I appreciate your interest, Casprings. {{tq|I have no intention of returning to the vitriolic talk page rants that got me in trouble, or even of relitigating the question of whether Russia truly interfered, which seems to have been resolved by more recent sources.}} That said, I ''have'' been sitting on several edits for the last several months, and ultimately decided to get them out of my system. I hope you can understand that. Regards,] (]) 02:51, 13 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
| :::: Must have been able to see into the future to be thinking Months ago of trump's talking point on the Ukraine and Clinton over the Don Jr thing. However, if you do return to the talk page, we can discuss how one politico story where one OP researcher was searching for info on Manafort is a pretty poor link to Clinton and that talking point is UNDUE, given the article.] (]) 03:01, 13 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
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| ::::::BTW: {{tq|"Must have been able to see into the future to be thinking Months ago of trump's talking point on the Ukraine and Clinton over the Don Jr thing."}} Actually, I merely read the when it came out in January. Again, kind regards,] (]) 07:31, 13 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
| == please do not simply disappear relevant text without detailed explanation (in particular, of discussion of chlorination Iraqi water supply during sanctions) == | |||
| My Dear TheTimesAreAChanging, simply disappearing block text discussing Iraqi water treatment vulnerabilities because it did not suit an argument you might like to advance helps no one. Additions and edits are not exercises in polemics; this aims to be an encyclopedia, so do not do not simply disappear relevant text without ''detailed'' explanation. | |||
| Simply passingly calling disappeared passages (without even having the courtesy of identifying them) "unreliable" is lazy scurrilousness, in this case with obviously tendentious aims: to replace what had been presented with a view that suits your own. | |||
| This is the the source you cited as unreliable: a statement from David Sole, President of the Sanitary Chemists & Technicians Association-UAW Local. 2334 at the Detroit Water & Sewerage Department, here: https://web.archive.org/web/20081203113830/http://www.iacenter.org/iraqchallenge/water.htm. | |||
| One can await with suspense how this source is unreliable. | |||
| Further, the opposing view from a Pentagon official (along with further deletion of the fact that the need for ''chlorine, whose importation had been banned'' by the relevant sanctions) ignored the relevant point. '''The basic point did not concern money. It concerned materials needed for the sterilization of the water supply. Importation of those materials was banned by sanctions.''' | |||
| '''If you do not have any understanding of the fundamental issues pertaining to an article, please do try to be clever, disappearing text and substantive issues, substituting tendentious sources, etc.''' | |||
| Although the blockquote (and article) by Rubin nowhere addresses the relevant point, the article that you cites will nonetheless be retained after undoing disappeared text. | |||
| Your attempt moreover to editorialize that the Rubin article selected "eviscerates" a point that that article ''does not even address'' just makes you both look silly. (The point being the import bans on materials that the sanctions imposed, not $$ spent by Saddam Hussein, mention of which--including "presidential palaces" and "smuggling," are just transparent polemics directed by Rubin at Iraq pre-2003, and which aren't relevant to the main point that they they take issue with. Mention of the Intifada is moreover totally unrelated, and makes drive-by removal of relevant text and its replacement with irrelevant bashing of Saddam Hussein look still more idiotic and transparently motivated.) | |||
| Again, please do not simply disappear relevant text that is not to your liking, particularly when you (apparently) do not understand the fundamental issues pertaining to a given topic. Take care, and all the best, ] (]) 06:37, 14 July 2017 (UTC) | |||
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Jan 2023
@TheTimesAreAChanging Hello, its one thing to make valid criticism of an edit, its yet another to make adhominem attacks against other editors like you did here with no regards to Assumimg Good Faith. If you have doubts regarding my WP:NPOV, you are welcome to discuss the edits with Civility and by focusing on the content, so long as you stop making Personal attacks. ~~ shadowwarrior8 (talk) 14:58 28 January 2023
Dreamcast Sales Numbers
Please actually check out the source I posted. Its from Sega of Japans offical Website. It isn't from a press release but from the Dreamcast page in their Hardware History section. They (the page doesn't have an author listed) state that the Dreamcast sold more than 10 million units. Just because someone else once falsly claimed that it sold 10.6 million units, which Sega doesn't even claim just that it sold more than 10 million units, doesn't mean that the 9.13 million sales number is written in stone. The source for the Playstation 2 sales numbers on Misplaced Pages is basically the same thing, a page from the offical Sony Website about their hardware history so I do not understand why this page couldn't be used as a source for the sales numbers of the Sega Dreamcast despite literally being from Sega themselve. 178.27.108.243 (talk) 09:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Here is the relevant excerpt. The page was released on Novmeber 5, 2018 and is entirely in japanese:
- セガ最後の家庭用ゲーム機『ドリームキャスト』は累計1,000万台あまりが世に送り出されました。
- Which translates to:
- Sega's last home video game console, the Dreamcast, sold a total of more than 10 million units.
- Here is a link to the page as well as a link to an archive of the page from 3 days ago:
- https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/column/column_06.html
- https://web.archive.org/web/20241007020058/https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/column/column_06.html 178.27.108.243 (talk) 09:54, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- 178.27.108.243, I reviewed the source that you provided; however, it appears to be close to a blog post, and not obviously more reliable than the 9.13 million CESA figure reported in Zackariasson et al. (Routledge, 2012).
- More broadly, what happens on the PlayStation 2 article has no direct bearing on Dreamcast. You are now edit-warring against a prior talk page consensus, complete with a notice not to change the sales figure without consensus.
- If you would like to discuss this further, it may be more productive to do so with the community at Talk:Dreamcast, rather than on my user talk page.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 10:11, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- 178.27.108.243, tangentially, this edit fails verification because the sources do not state that
"Virtua Fighter 2 is the best-selling Sega Saturn game."
Regardless of the truth of the claim, you should be aware that Misplaced Pages has strict sourcing requirements that do not permit editors to engage in original synthesis of reliable sources to reach conclusions not directly supported by the citations provided.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 10:28, 28 November 2024 (UTC)- You should change the Misplaced Pages page for Virtua Fighter 2 as well since its state there that: the top-selling game worldwide for the Sega Saturn .
- Can I add Virtua Fighter 2 as the best selling game if I write that it was only the best selling in Japan?
- I wasn't aware of 10.6 million claim nor of the debate about its credibility that happened nearly a decaded ago.
- I however fail to see how that claim and debate means that the Dreamcast section of: The encyclopedia of Sega video game consoles from Sega of Japan's offical website which according to the banner on its index page (found here: https://www.sega.jp/history/hard/index.html) is: based on existing documents/materials at Sega (Original Text in Japanese: セガに現存する資料をもとに、歴代セガハードをご紹介) isn't a crediable source. I doubt that the japanese employee who created those pages used english internet discussions and rumors about console sales numbers as a source.
- Your claim about Sega maybe just rounded up the Saturns unit sales number to 6 million also is just your speculation since you don't provide any proof.
- In the case of the Mega Drive which sold about 3.58 million units according to Famitus the Megad Drive section of: The encyclopedia of Sega video game consoles states that: More than 3 million units of the “Mega Drive” were sold in Japan. (Original Text in Japanese: 『メガドライブ』は日本において300万台以上が販売されました。)
- This doesn't prove that Sega didn't round up the Sega Saturn unit sales number but is at least an example form the same source that shows that for one of their other consoles they definitly didn't just round up to the next higher number. 178.27.108.243 (talk) 12:53, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Mujaheddin
Hello i noticed that you eliminated my modification on the page mujaheddin that says that mujaheddin were NATO allies, they were allies due to intervention of mujaheddin in the gulf war against Saddam Hussein Boackandwhite (talk) 13:08, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Boackandwhite, thank you for reaching out. Please provide a reliable source for verification. Regards,TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 03:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- okay i have a pdf about units involved in 1991 gulf war that include mujaheddin i'll use it Boackandwhite (talk) 09:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Since your source does not directly state that NATO is an ally of the mujahideen, your edit failed verification and has been reverted. If you disagree, then please provide a page number and quote of the relevant excerpt that verifies the claim. Thank you.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 08:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- okay i have a pdf about units involved in 1991 gulf war that include mujaheddin i'll use it Boackandwhite (talk) 09:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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thank you sincerely for your contributions!! :) x RozuRozu • cups 22:05, 12 January 2025 (UTC) |