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| :'''This process has been discontinued per ].''' | |||
| == New reports == | |||
| The personal attack intervention noticeboard (PAIN), created on ] ], was intended as a counterpart to ]. A person with complaints over ] could, after giving warnings, report a personal attacker on this page. | |||
| ==={{User|Hkelkar}}=== | |||
| This user has made blatant attacks against me on ] and and : | |||
| * He has been accusing me of antisemitism because I just used the word "neocon". I asked him to back his claims, he never did. | |||
| * He is accusing me of being defnbanned ] under another name. | |||
| * The user is adopting a persecuting approach by systematically menacing. | |||
| Here are the quotations of that person, found in the above mentionned links: | |||
| * '''''If you continue to violate WP:BLP in this manner and make the "neocon" anti-semitic canard (you actually mean "Jew", right?) against Pipes then it is grounds for reporting in BLP noticebaard''''' | |||
| * '''''You made the statement "neocon" in the header of the article talk page Talk:Koenraad Elst#Controversies about Elst's links with the neocons and the extreme right, as well as several times in the conversation. The term "neocon" is a pejorative for neoconservatives generally regarded as an insult and with connotations of an ethnic slur as, historically, anti-semites have used it to make accusations of neoconservatism being "dominated by Jews", "controlled by Jews" or "espousing dual loyalty to Israel" etc.''''' | |||
| * '''''Plus, I will file an RFCU against you as I suspect that you are a sock of indefbanned User:Robert Lindsay''''' | |||
| This user is making grave accusations at me without any backing of his claims. He did not accepted my good-faith explanation of the use of the word "neocon" as an abbreviation for "neoconservative" without any antisemitic connotation. He did not reply to my comment that the word "neocon" is currently used in many Misplaced Pages articles. In the case cited here, it is quite easy to see how false his accusations are, just by reading the pages above. ] 16:31, 15 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==={{User|Street Scholar}}=== | |||
| The user has made disparaging attacks against me on ] . he has refused to cooperate with my dispute resolution process with ] as the mediator (who has worked very hard to engage in good faith DR process initiated by me concerning his edits) and consistently makes incivil comments. He has a history of making racist and sexist remarks and for which he has been censured by admins . I would NPA-warn him but I fear that he will only escalate in his disruption if I do, based on his tendentious edits , and and many other places which show consitent assumption of bad faith and veiled ethnic slurs against users that are getting disruptive. I abjectly request admin intervention.Thanks.] 12:18, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::'''Update:'''Actually I just remembered that I HAD warned him informally for violating ] as well as ] in edit. The warning is so I have warned him.] 12:32, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Unfortunately, the noticeboard generated a considerable amount of controversy. While ] is usually a clear cut case, and administrator intervention (i.e. blocking) is usually uncontroversial, determining whether a comment is a personal attack, incivil, or just simply blunt and frank, can be quite ]. That led to a lot of arguments, flame wars, tit-for-tat disputes and ] on this page. Even after several warnings as well as changes to the header designed to instruct users on how to use this page, this noticeboard continued to deteriorate. Due to this deterioration as well as some particularly poor exchanges in December 2006, the entire page was ], with the result that the noticeboard was closed on {{#formatdate:10 January 2007}}. | |||
| ==={{User|RPJ}}=== | |||
| The closure of this noticeboard does not mean that personal attacks are tolerated; they should never be. It simply means that complaints over personal attacks are moved to different, and more appropriate venues such as the ], ] or, as a last resort, ]. | |||
| Above user has been blocked on at least four separate occasions for personal attacks and general trolling. User has difficulty with assuming good faith, using reliable sources, and ] even when users go out of their way to inform him that the problem with his edit is not the content but the sources he chooses to use. But more important than that, user continues to write long diatribes against editors such as and implying that myself and Gamaliel are government agents trying to supress his voice. User has been warned through his previous block and I also warned him . ] 23:49, 13 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ===Procedure=== | |||
| A simple matter of questioning an unreliable source is greeted with a full blown attack. This user - who has been repeatedly blocked for various offenses - does not play well with other editors and a community ban should be considered. ] 00:51, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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| *]: frequently insulted by anti-Chinese government radical under IP's with prefix 142.103.168.XXX. Seems to be coming out of the ] student computer labs. ]+(]) 23:44, 12 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| Kitten-Klub has made disparging attacks against me and is deleting my posts. User says I support terrorists. She refuses to discuss differences.] 13:12, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Open reports== | |||
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| ==={{User|Ernham}}=== | |||
| This user has received both <nowiki>{{npa2}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{npa2}}</nowiki> warnings, as well as numerous informal warnings. Personal attacks have continued such as calling me a "stalker" and calling honest edits "massive vandalism/total lies/complete NPOV non-sense" and honest editors vandals . Editor also has the habit of calling people stupid or not understanding his own "logic" for example and "stop correcting your damn spelling mistakes so i can respond, too. Yes, I know you can't spell very well." | |||
| User has replaced personal attacks, even after they've been removed and he's been warned . | |||
| Using this noticeboard is not a move I take lightly, this is the first time I have had the occasion to since I joined the project in 2004. ] 10:30, 13 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *This editor is already blocked for ] violations. Since this appears to be an ongoing problem, I'd highly suggest ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:10, 13 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==={{User|TerryJ-Ho}}=== | |||
| :Extreme incivility towards ] in his edit summaries as of this moment, plus making disparaging statements against me on unrelated matters in Talk page: | |||
| :User has a history of attacking me personally on ] and ] (cpoied by mediator Martinp23 from his talk page. Terry is the anon signor.] 00:12, 13 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I warned him but he continues ] 00:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :*Your name appears to show up here a lot - I don't know if that's because it's here a lot, or if it's because it catches my eye. Nevertheless, I would very much like to know how this particular "trollish comment" (as you commented when removing it) is a personal attack as per ]. There may possibly be some mild ], but I'm not understanding the nature of this diff as applied to the concept of a ]. If this is just more than an isolated incident, more than one diff might also be useful --] 00:21, 13 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm sorry if my name appears here a lot. I am editing controversial articles and trying my best to make them NPOV. Users with sectarian biases are thus attacking me. I have been vindicated on most counts due to the scholarly nature of my edits and my scrupulous adherence to wikipedia policies.I will post diffs regarding this user in a few hours as I am compiling a list of his incivil comments.] 00:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :*Please compile a list only of personal attacks. ] is outside of the scope of this page. Thanks --] 00:48, 13 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==={{User|Nagarajachar}}=== | |||
| Hi ] has been constantly provking me, inspite of warnings, now he is accusing me of putting nonsense material on Misplaced Pages, u can see my contributions in my homepage and i am open for discussions , can u warn him please--] 10:29, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :* Please supply at least one or two diffs of these personal attacks - especially in light of the fact that it appears that ] recently advised you on the inappropriateness of replying with attacks of your own. You ned to show us exactly what it is that's been said that you feel constitutes a personal attack. --] 11:08, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==={{User|PaulWicks}}=== | |||
| PaulWicks is continuously reverting whatever I add. A checkuser assessment failed to show any evidence that I was a sock puppet. Despite this, PaulWicks keeps adding sock puppet claims to my user page. He also uses this unfounded claim to revert and delete whatever I add. He often personally abuses me. An Administrator, Eloquence, warned him about making false claims of sock puppetry against other people but PaulWicks still continues. The article I have tried to add to he never contributes to at all. He has no reason to even alter it. His actions are bringing all editing of the article to a standstill. --] 14:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Aren't you the banned user ]? ] <sup>]</sup> 14:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| No, a checkuser assessment failed to show any evidence that I was "General Tojo". If an investigation fails to confirm an SP claim, it is not reasonable for somebody to then act as if it did. --] 14:53, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :* '''Removed evolving three way debate on checkuser status''' - As per ], there is no conclusion openly stated other than ] is easily identifiable by edits on parkinsons articles. This is not the place to debate the subject other than to observe this simple fact. ] 17:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| This complaint does not solely concern the checkuser assessment. PaulWicks keeps adding sock puppet claims to my user page. He also uses this unfounded claim to revert and delete whatever I add. --] 17:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| === {{User|JJay}} === | |||
| {{vandal|JJay}} does not contribute to actual articles, but merely votes in afds. Recently, he has almost exclusively limited his activites to stalking my afds. This includes the current ]. There is only two articles he has been concerned with in the last 7 days: One is a sex toy afd and the other is my afd. | |||
| This user has been doing this to my edits and most recently confronted him on his talk and he gave : "If you nominate articles for deletion you should expect to encounter differing points of view." Independently another addressed his behavior, but that admin had to step away from wikipedia. | |||
| Examples of the disruptive behavior in my afds in the past few weeks: | |||
| *] | |||
| *] | |||
| *] | |||
| *] (Not mine, but voted right after me, see comments on this one-- he didn't even bother looking at the article.) | |||
| *] See his comments about me (the nom) | |||
| Clearly this user is ] me. | |||
| Trying to address these issues with this user is not possible as he removes comments from and does so . ] 04:13, 15 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *Have you tried warning him that his actions may result in a block, and that he can see every AfD that's currently going on at ]? That may help. It's possible he's wikistalking you because he likes to participate in AfDs, and doesn't know of the list.--]] ] 04:16, 15 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :: Yes, and on his talk not to mention in various other places. I first mention his ill-treatment of my comments in . This user does not contribute to the editting or improving wikipedia at all. ] 04:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :* Arbustoo's post here is baseless. I have made no attacks on this user nor am I "stalking" him (although he has admitted stalking me to various articles). He is a frequent nominator on AfD and I have participated in just a small portion of those nominations. However, he has a long history of reacting with hostility, sarcasm and personal attacks on anyone who "votes" keep in one of those nominations. His language and style of comments in these debates are not acceptable and often cross the line into personal attack. Some examples include: , , , , etc. | |||
| :* This behavior has frequently led to complaints from other users , , and I have previously warned him to tone down his language and not to shadow my AfD participation , , . Finally, his remark about not contributing "to actual articles" is absurd. I invite anyone to review my many thousands of edits. In fact, even editors who disagree with my philosophical approach to article inclusion at wikipedia have called me . --] 12:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :**Well, after reading that, I think if anyone should be temporarily blocked it's Arbustoo. I'm not an administrator, though, so this issue needs to wait until one comes along and makes a decision.--]] ] 16:42, 15 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==={{User|Pumpkin Pie}}=== | |||
| *]: User made threats of physical violence against User 4.18GB. . I have warned him twice about personal attacks and he seems to continue and even tries to justify it on my talk page . --] <sup>]</sup> <sup>]</sup> 21:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| * User has continued attacks, . --] <sup>]</sup> <sup>]</sup> 01:53, 15 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ::No more PA since final warning. I left a stern warning that no further PA will be tolerated. ] 11:32, 15 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
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- This process has been discontinued per this discussion.
The personal attack intervention noticeboard (PAIN), created on 7 October 2005, was intended as a counterpart to the request for intervention against vandalism page. A person with complaints over personal attacks could, after giving warnings, report a personal attacker on this page.
Unfortunately, the noticeboard generated a considerable amount of controversy. While vandalism is usually a clear cut case, and administrator intervention (i.e. blocking) is usually uncontroversial, determining whether a comment is a personal attack, incivil, or just simply blunt and frank, can be quite subjective. That led to a lot of arguments, flame wars, tit-for-tat disputes and wikilawyering on this page. Even after several warnings as well as changes to the header designed to instruct users on how to use this page, this noticeboard continued to deteriorate. Due to this deterioration as well as some particularly poor exchanges in December 2006, the entire page was nominated for deletion, with the result that the noticeboard was closed on 10 January 2007.
The closure of this noticeboard does not mean that personal attacks are tolerated; they should never be. It simply means that complaints over personal attacks are moved to different, and more appropriate venues such as the administrators' noticeboard, dispute resolution or, as a last resort, arbitration.
Procedure
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