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== Requested move at ] ==
A bunch of articles have been created that essentially describe the same concepts and ideas under different names. (], ], ], etc.) I propose that this project should strive to take these articles and merge them together into one comprehensive, well-written article (making mention of the different names). -- ] 16:17, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Requested move at ] ==
:I fully agree, that was what made me decide to start this probject! At the same time I doubt that it will be possible to merge them all into one article. I see what we need as a structure/hierarchy with one ''main page'' offering an overarching introduction to the subject. Currently, the closest thing that we have to this is the ] page, but I would prefer it to be the ] page since that term is more generic and not centered around 'blue-light services' to the same extent. Then we would have to agree upon a structure without hurting too many feelings. --] 12:42, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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::Although we may not be able to merge everything into one article, I think it was possible in the case of the ] and ] pages. When I merged these two articles, the text in both were essentially describing the same concepts in exactly the same way (by identifying the four phases, etc). As for the name of the article, I question whether or not ] is really more broad. To me it actually seems like a more narrow focus; it carries with it the implication that the phases of the process are only applicable to large-scale events (such as Hurricane Katrina, etc). Regardless of what name we choose to stick with, there is no reason why the article that results cannot contain mention of alternate names of the discipline. What do you think? -- ] 05:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
==Overall framework==
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 00:39, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps a good start is first to decide the overall framework, the following topics are off the top of my head:


== Requested move at ] ==
===Option 1===
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:#Threats, read here natural disaster or disaster.
:#Disaster managmenet
:#Emergency management
:#Emergency preparedness
:#Disaster recovery
:#Business continuity planning (noticed this was outside your stated scope however worth at least a mention as a 'See Also')] 13:10, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


== Merger discussion for ] ==
===Option 2===
:I almost agree. I still see that structure lacking in intuitivity. I would prefer:
::#Diaster management (i.e. policy/theory, as well as business continuity?)
::##Mitigation,
::##Preparedness,
::##Response,
::##Recovery
::#Emergency services
::##Emergency management (of emergency services?)
::##Civil defence
::##Police etc.
::#Hazards
::##Tropical cyclones
::##Dirty bombs
::##etc.
::#Disasters
::##Hurricane katrina
::##Bali bombing
::##etc.
::--] 13:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)


] An article which may be of interest to members of this project&mdash;]&mdash;has been '''proposed for ]''' with ]. If you are interested, please participate in ]. Thank you. ] ] (<span style="font-size:85%;">he/him</span> • ]) 13:39, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
===Option 3===
::The second framework is better, I think, but there are some modifications I would make to it. I propose the following:


== Floods in Afghanistan ==
:::#Emergency/Diaster management (i.e. the four phases and their descriptions)
:::##Mitigation,
:::###Risk Assessment
:::##Preparedness,
:::##Response,
:::###Local Emergency Services (EMS, Fire, Police)
:::###State and Federal Response (State EM Agencies, Dept. of Homeland Security, FEMA)
:::##Recovery
:::#Natural Disasters (What was identified above as "Hazards")
:::##Tropical cyclones
:::#Technilogical Disasters (Another division of the above "Hazards")
:::##Dirty bombs
:::#Past Disasters
:::##Hurricane katrina
:::##Bali bombing
:::##etc.


...came to the ] page, because of the present, 2024 Afghanistan flood reports... Someone already hastily (and IMO sloppily) started a ] stub. So while this is an annual event, sadly, there are numerous annual pages. I would like to clarify the existing formal issues on the child pages (stubs) named in the List of ]:
::I put the above comments under a new heading to seperate discussion of the framework from other issues mentioned above. Developing a framework is, I think, a discussion that merits its own heading. Anyone disagree? -- ] 05:25, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
*Shouldnt these annual event stubs be named uniformly? For example plural versus singular etc
* Shouldnt they be created separately for Afghanistan and Pakistan -or together as occurred in two cases: ]?
*or: If there is as little editorial attention to these pages as it seems,(probably also lack of subsequent reporting about the event) shouldnt the info of these pages be better presented in a table?
Before starting an RfC on ] I am posting this here and on the respective ] and ] pages in the hope that someone comments. ] (]) 09:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
===Option 4===
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:::I am very close to an agreement now. However, there are only three of us discussing this. We should try to get more interested parties involved. My suggestion based on yours:
:::#Emergency/Diaster management (i.e. the four phases and their descriptions)
:::##Mitigation,
:::###Risk Assessment
:::##Preparedness,
:::##Response,
:::###Local (i.e. emergency services)
:::###National (Provincial and federal agencies, Dept. of Homeland Security, FEMA)
:::###International
:::##Recovery
:::#Natural Hazards (The '''hazard''' is the phenomenon, the '''disaster''' its consequence)
:::##Tropical cyclones
:::#Man-made Hazards
:::##Dirty bombs
:::#Disasters (Probably also divided into man-made and natural)
:::##Hurricane katrina
:::##Bali bombing
:::##etc.
:::Our subject is extra sensitive to systemic bias towards the North American perspective. We have to adopt a structure that allow the inclusion of all Points Of View, which I think the above does. --] 07:18, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
::::I agree that we must avoid systemic bias toward the North American perspective, which is something I hadn't thought of when making my outline. I think this framework is general enough to accomplish that and I'll try to make sure I include other perspectives in my future contributions.
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 00:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
::::Perhaps the only technical modification I would make are the following two:
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 00:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
::::To Section 1.3 (Response)
:::::**Response,
:::::***Local (i.e. emergency services)
:::::***Provincial/State (I would classify provincial action here since provinces are subsets of Canada as states are in the U.S.)
:::::***National (Federal/National agencies; such as the DHS or FEMA in the U.S.)
:::::***International


== Requested move at ] ==
::::In response to Section 2, I believe (but I will check my references) that hazards are technically defined as ''potential'' sources of harm and that disasters (or emergencies on a smaller scale) are tehcnically defined as the consequence. For a rough example, a hazard may be a crack in the sidewalk that ''may'' cause someone to fall; an emergency is the result of tripping over the crack and being injured.
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== Requested move at ] ==
::::In Section 3, let's keep the heading of this one gender-nuetral to maintian NPOV. Technological Hazards/Disasters describe things made by human beings without the subtle gender bias that still presents itself in some of our language. Otherwise, this is a very nice framework. -- ] 15:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Requested move at ] ==
===Option 5===
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:::I am mulling over the difference between public (i.e. government) versus private (i.e. company) disaster management... please tweak to improve, me so tired I can't think straight:
:::#Emergency/Diaster management (I see this as a public function)
:::##Mitigation,
:::###Risk Assessment
:::##Preparedness,
:::##Response,
:::###Local (i.e. emergency services)
:::###National (Provincial and federal agencies, Dept. of Homeland Security, FEMA)
:::###International
:::##Recovery
:::#Operational risk management under which ] falls (I see this as a private function)
:::##Threats and vulnerabilities
:::##Impact assessments
:::##Recovery preparation
:::##Crisis Management
:::##Recovery
:::##Resumption of business as usual
:::#Natural Hazards (The '''hazard''' is the phenomenon, the '''disaster''' its consequence)
:::##Tropical cyclones
:::#Man-made Hazards
:::##Dirty bombs
:::#Disasters (Probably also divided into man-made and natural)
:::##Hurricane katrina
:::##Bali bombing
:::##Public relations disaster (Tylenol poisioning incident in the 80's, could have been a PR disaster but because managed well by company, a corporate disaster was averted. This example included for thought provoking.)
:::##etc.


== Requested move at ] ==
::::Let's take Section 3 and include it in Section 1. The sub-points you identified for BCP will fall nicely under the four phases of emergency management (perhaps with different names, since business continuity addresses things from a different perspective). Then, in the (Disaster/Emergency) management article (depending on what final title we choose) can focus on the public aspects, but make mention of the private (read: business) aspects. We can add a reference to the top of Section 1 in the article that refers readers to the main article on BCP (since a larger discussion of BCP merits another article altogether) and apply this same framework to the BCP article with modifications made for emphasis on emergency management as it is applied to business continuity. How does that sound? -- ] 16:01, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Requested move at ] ==
===Option 6===
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 09:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
Still thinking over the 2nd part of your suggestion about moving Op Risk under Section 1. I'm beginning to wonder if we are trying to merge too much into a single outline and that we should focus on theory areas / methodologies rather than the process under a particular theory / method. Our article can have a simple outline like this, with a 30,000 foot description of each method, with links to the detailed article that fleshes out the process associated with the theory / method. I the following article title
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== One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement! ==
'''Disaster management'''
#Hazards
##Natural disasters
##Man-made disasters
#Disaster management methodologies
##Crisis Management
##Emergency Management
##Disaster Recovery
##Operational risk management
##Business Recovery Management
##Continuity of Operations ] 13:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
#Disaster management professionals
##First responders
##State/provincial
##Federal
##Public infrastructure
##Private companies


The stregnths of the above structure (1) hazards vs. disasters is explained, (2) the methodologies are summarized, (3) the methodologies point to separate articles that explain the detailed process behind the method, (4) summaries the Disaster Management profession from different angles. ] 13:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


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== Requested move at ] ==
::#Setting up this point by making disasters a subset of hazards (and then describing different types of disasters) doesn't lend itself to definition of terms, it lends itself to avoiding the conceptual basis of emergency/disaster management by delving right into specifics.
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::#I would only agree with this if there were significant differences between these methodologies. The only two significantly different methodologies I see here are the differences between Disaster/Emergency Management and Business Continuity Planning.
::#We can accomplish this in the frameworks mentioned above.
::#See my response to point #2 above.


== List of mass graves: regional or global? ==
:Also, by classifying the different types of professionals under a seperate section, I think we will loose sight of describing their professional duties and where they function from an emergency/disaster management perspective.


Looking for a bit of thoughtful targeted feedback rather than calling an open RfC.
:In other words, it's a good try, but I'd prefer to stick with what we have above. -- ] 14:08, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


]
::Fortunately, I'm not married to any option. If the preference goes a different way, no vociferous objections from me. One thing tho, can we leave the decision a little longer? Would like input from Proto and Taxman. Doesn't mean however that option 6 isn't the best :-) but hey small issues are small issues. ] 10:13, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


The more I think about it, the more I think I should start global and then split it if it gets too big? ] (]) 08:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
:::I'm certainly not opposed to letting the discussion continue until Proto, Taxman, and any others who are interested have given their input. Small issues often turn into big issues, so I agree that they should be handled appropriately. -- ] 16:14, 13 April 2006 (UTC)


:Comment on the linked page please. ] (]) 08:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
===My comment===
Though I feel very confident in my knowledge of policy/political side of disater management, I am not at all familiar with BCP (probably should be) - this is influencing my opinion. Furthermore, we are really only discussing a conceptual outline. We only have to agree upon the top two layers. If this will be our main article it will still be short with links to the main articles. I hence take the same stance as ] and support Option 4 with the modifications. Though I do like the idea in Option 6 of only having three top headings: Mgmt Theory, Emergency services/professionals, Hazards/Disasters


== Requested move at ] ==
''Re: Hazard and Impact''. The references on our main page support the model that ''Hazard * Vulnerability = Risk''. Where 'Risk' is (depending who you ask) a likelihood of the occurance of a disaster with a given impact/size/consequence. Please add your central references to the Bibliography list (I am particularly interested in BCP).
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. '']''<sup>]</sup> 08:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
Last, I am afraid that I will only be able to log on a few times the next two weeks. So please ] and so forth, i.e. don't wait for me! --] 15:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
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== ] invitation ==
===Voting for best option===
Sign your name against the option you prefer. ] 13:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


This is a formal invitation to help build out the new WikiProject Risk, which has significant overlap with this WikiProject. Due to the breadth of the concept of 'risk', many articles that have broad applications are silo'd into specific subjects. Those interested in the generalization and proper organization of ] principles on Misplaced Pages may find like-minded editors there. ] (]) 23:12, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
'''Option 1'''
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'''Option 2'''
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'''Option 3'''
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'''Option 4'''
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* ] 14:10, 12 April 2006 (UTC) - '''Option 4''' with slight modifications as mentioned above.
* ] 15:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC) As per my motivation above.
* ] 17:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC) - I also like '''Option 4'''. It seems to be fairly comprehensive without becoming cluttered.
'''Option 5'''
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'''Option 6'''
* ] 13:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC) - '''Option 6''' is my preferred item.


== Requested move at ] ==
== Templates ==
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== Requested move at ] ==
According to the ] we need to mark at least 30 relevant articles with our stub template {{tl|dm-stub}} for it to be approved for use. See <nowiki>]</nowiki>. So please spread it and the {{tl|Disaster management}} at the same time. --] 13:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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:This ] now and the name of the stub will be changed to {{tl|disaster-stub}} and ]. --<font size="2" color="blue" typeface="Arial"><b>]</b> ( ] | ] | ] )</font> 09:29, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
==] cooperation==
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== Requested move at ] ==
Hello. I'm a member of the ], which is looking to identify quality articles in Misplaced Pages for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using ], and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either ], ], B-class, or ], with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of ], and if you have any questions, ask me in the ] or directly in my ]. Thanks a lot! ]]<sup>(] - ])</sup> 22:13, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Requested move at ] ==
:Seeing that we barely have started the WikiProject we do not have a massive collection. I know of the following:
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:There are probably more. I would like to see more on policy and hazards, but they do not seem to have the same level of quality. Anyone else have any examples to submit? --] 07:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
:There's quite a bit of article pertaining to ]. I won't bother to list them all here, but if you go to the main page, there is a template listing for them all. ] 23:35, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Requested move at ] ==
:The WikiProject for Cyclones has that subject covered. Thanks for the suggestion anyway! I have added some additional articles that I found on transport disasters. --<font color="blue" typeface="Arial"><b>]</b> ( ] | ] | ] )</font> 15:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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== Requested move at ] ==
== Disaster ''Preparation'' nonsense ==
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== Requested move at ] ==
I have seen the term '''Disaster preparation''' being used in the categorisation. It is obviously totally wrong. The only situation where disasters are prepared are when ]s and invading ] plot their dirty deeds. I should put up on the to-do list to exterminate the expression from wikipedia. Though the expression could be replaced by ''preparedness'', it would be more correct to use ''disaster management'' or something similar.
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== University of Edinburgh assignment - Global Health Challenges Pg Online ==
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Dear all, this is just to flag up that several students on the ''']''' will be researching and improving (in groups) approximately seven stub articles related to WikiProject Disaster management this month. Namely:
In fact, the categorisation hierarchy needs to be looked over in accordance with the final result of our vote above.
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<br> So if you see a flurry of activity on these pages in the coming days then don't worry it is not an attack it is just new student editors trying to help improve and expand these articles using their research. If possible please avoid reverts and provide constructive criticism to help the students learn where they be going wrong whether it is wording, style guidelines or formatting or the types of sources being used etc. Hopefully any issues should be minor in nature but any problems or questions, please ask! Thanks, ] ] (]) 17:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)


== Requested move at ] ==
== Missing disasters ==
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== Requested move at ] ==
There are quite a few missing disasters that need to be created. However, I think that our focus should remain on improving the central policy articles and categorisation. In the meantime I have to figure out a way to store the disasters that I find are missing. Any suggestions?
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* Chusovoi swimming pool roof collapses after heavy snow. ] ].
* Moscow swimming pool roof collapses after heavy snow. ] ].
* Moscow market hall roof collapses after heavy snow. ] ].
--] 08:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

== Assorted news ==

I laugh at myself when I keep returning to wiki. I should be working :)

Anyway, a couple of comments:

'''The use of the word 'disaster''''
:There are several articles (e.g. ]) where the word 'disaster' in the title has been discussed as being a ]. The argument raised is that one should use a gradual (subjective!) range of 'incident', 'accident', and 'disaster'. I find the discussion and choice of word irrelevant, but we should create a standard.

'''Classification of hazards'''
:The ] is messy and missing a lot of articles. The structure that I would like to use, which could affect our discussion above as well, is: Social hazards (war, riot, stampede, shooting), Technological hazards (Meltdown, transportation, dam failure), and natural hazards. This gets us around the use of the gender-charged ''man-made'' as well. Any comments?

'''Changed signature'''
:FYI, to make my signature fit better with my username I decided to make some changes (former Drdan)

--<font size="2" color="blue" typeface="Arial"><b>]</b> ( ] | ] | ] )</font> 09:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

==WikiSource Contributions==
I think another possible contribution this project can make is to add some documents to WikiSource--the part of the wiki with public domain documents. There are a TON of laws, Executive Orders, reports, etc. related to Disaster Management. We could help add this to the wiki. has some digitized versions of laws and executive orders that would just need to be copied, pasted, and cleand up for WikiSource.--] 00:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
:I will have a look at it. If I do something it will proably be in international law, where I have some experience. The does not have any material on their website, but I have some printed public domain material from them that I could add, when I have time. --<font color="blue" typeface="Arial"><b>]</b> ( ] | ] | ] )</font> 21:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

We're discussing this new stub over at stub sorting, to cover fire/ambulance/search and rescue (maybe not police). I don't know if it's directly related to your wikiproject, but somebody in stubsorting suggested that this wikiproject be notified in case you wanted to comment (]). --] 13:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

== Disaster vs. Emergency ==

Though this project is just at its start we have a huge problem in structuring it. All the central terminology is used without standard e.g disaster mgmt/emergency mgmt, preparedness/preparation, hazard/disaster.

The first term is obviously important to sort out for our project. Is it Disaster management or Emergency management? My suspicion is that disaster management is more common in academia and possibly also in Europe. Emergency management tend to refer to the 'response phase' activities, i.e. emergency services. We need to define these terms among ourselves before we get too far to do anything about it. Should we use the term 'Disaster management' or is 'Emergency management' better? Does it matter?
<font size="2" color="blue" typeface="Arial"><b>]</b> ( ] | ] | ] )</font> 18:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
:My impressions differ from yours on a couple of points. It doesn't seem to me like "disaster management" is more common in academia. Emergency management is a relatively new academic feild to begin with. Also, the institution I attend, which refers to it as emergency management, is the only university in the state of Ohio that offers an accredited program in the discipline. I cannot, however, speak on which of the two references are more common in Europe. In regard to your definition of emergency management as a phrase directed more toward response, I have to disagree. At least in my course of study, emergency management has referred to all of the phases involved in addressing emergencies/disasters.

:Personally, I think we're splitting hairs in defining disaster management and emergency management as phrases with different meanings. Both refer to the same concepts; they both refer to the management of hazards that have developed into harmful events. The only slight nuance in using the terms may be one of scale (namely, does the word "disaster" somehow imply a large-scale incident whereas "emergency" may imply a smaller event). However, the nuance simply does not seem to exist from what I have seen in discussions about emergency/disaster management. I suggest we choose the name that is most widely used and re-direct the other phrase to the chosen phrase's article. -- ] 23:13, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

::That sounds good to me as well and I have to admit that 'emergency management' definitely has a wider usage outside academia and I find it more descriptive. Conclusion: A redirect from the Disaster management article to the new Emergency management article? BTW I have been part of three European Unis and two of them referred to it as Disaster management with the third calling it Hazard geography. I have been involved with institutions in ] and ], the first one used EM and the second DM. Bottom line, they are the same and we should stick with Emergency management as the main article. --<font size="2" color="blue" typeface="Arial"><b>]</b> ( ] | ] | ] )</font> 23:34, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

:::I have no problem with sticking to the ] article. I certainly think that we should acknowledge, in that article, that disaster management is another widely used phrase (this could also help in adding a global perspective to the tone of the article). In any event, unless another project member has an objection to it, I think a re-direct is in order. -- ] 14:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

== Redirect + Category:Disaster ==

I have now redirected ] to emergency management. To reflect this change in the categorisation I think that Category:Disaster should be renamed to Category:Emergency management. Any comment?
--<font color="blue" typeface="Arial"><b>]</b> ( ] | ] | ] )</font> 07:22, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

== Category renaming ==

I have now entered ] and the tree starting with ] for renaming to 'Emergency management' and 'Disaster preparedness'.
Follow ] to join the discussion.
--<font color="blue" typeface="Arial"><b>]</b> ( ] | ] | ] )</font> 21:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
:Done. -- ] 02:03, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

== Misc comments ==
luciamio...state training officer in radiological emergency response here in the US and (just) retired paramedic in NY...was looking for EM wikis for my masters research and here you are! Terrific. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small><!-- -->

Ibem2006 at Covenant University Ota -Nigeria.I have so much interest in Urban disaster management especially in developing countries. I am presently doing na research work on The Challenges of Urban Disaster Management in nigerian Cities With Lagos as a case study <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}.</small>

== Category:Disaster management tools ==

I've just created ] - there may be a better name, but at least I wanted to start the category.

Regarding what belongs in the category. I think it should only be added if the article refers to use in disaster management (and that reference should ideally be sourced as well). There are other technologies that may seem suitable, e.g. ], but the "See also" section I think will take care of those. --] 04:52, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

== Disasters and name and scope of project ==

Hi there. I'm quite excited to discover this project, but wanted to check that there isn't another one covering the same area. My background is really in categorisation - back in September 2005 I did a big overhaul of the Disasters and Natural disasters categories, and today I created ], which is now a subcategory of ] and ] and has now subsumed all the "<YEAR> disasters" categories.

But I'm not entirely clear if I'm in the right place. I might be looking for something like "WikiProjects:Disasters", but this is the closest I've found. The name and much of the discussion seems to be focussed on disaster management and the jobs and theory behind preparing for and dealing with disasters, but the scope of the project also says it includes: ''"...the phenomenological description of natural and man-made hazards. It also include individual disastrous events, e.g. hurricane Katrina and the Ethiopian famine in the 1980s."''

Would I be right to say that ''"the phenomenological description of natural and man-made hazards"'' is covered in ] and ]? And that ''"individual disastrous events"'' is covered by ]? These areas would seem to overlap with history wikiprojects and wikiprojects on natural phenomena, but if this wikiproject is the right place to work on them, that would be great. So is this the right place? ] 09:36, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

== Assessment page on Natural disasters ==

Not sure if anyone else here knows about this page: ]. Gives an idea of the range of quality of articles on natural disasters. ] 16:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

== ]s ==

I created the main entry for the FEMA US&R Task Forces as well as stubs for each of the teams. So far, only AZ-TF1, CA-TFs 1, 2 and 3 have anything beyond very basic stubs. If anyone is familiar with one of these Task Forces (or would like to do the research to flesh out the basic stub), I would be very appreciative.

I would also be interested in having the ] article reviewed. Any feedback would be appreciated as I am an amateur US&R enthusiast with no real life experience in the field.

Thanks!

] 17:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hey guys, I just wanted to let you know that I spent yesterday making ] and it is almost complete.

Feel free to contribute to the portal by any means. --] 01:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
:Looks good. I've started the talk page for the portal. ] 15:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

==Rail Crash AfD==

One of the articles within the scope of this project has been listed at AfD. If you have an opinion either way please see ]. ] 20:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

== "Disaster", defined ==

How are we defining ''disaster''? I understand it as "an emergency whose response requirements exceed the capabilities of the local response groups & agencies" - that its, one where outside help has to be brought in. --] 21:34, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps we should follow the way of ], which was receently renamed from ] - if this was WikiProject Emergency management, then emergency would be easily definable. I mean, do the ] or the ] count as disasters? ] 21:42, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

That make a lot of sense. I agree. --] 22:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

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Merger discussion for 2024 Lake Suviana explosion

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Floods in Afghanistan

...came to the Floods in Afghanistan page, because of the present, 2024 Afghanistan flood reports... Someone already hastily (and IMO sloppily) started a 2024 Afghanistan-Pakistan floods stub. So while this is an annual event, sadly, there are numerous annual pages. I would like to clarify the existing formal issues on the child pages (stubs) named in the List of Floods in Afghanistan:

  • Shouldnt these annual event stubs be named uniformly? For example plural versus singular etc
  • Shouldnt they be created separately for Afghanistan and Pakistan -or together as occurred in two cases: 2013 Pakistan–Afghanistan floods?
  • or: If there is as little editorial attention to these pages as it seems,(probably also lack of subsequent reporting about the event) shouldnt the info of these pages be better presented in a table?

Before starting an RfC on Talk:Floods in Afghanistan I am posting this here and on the respective Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Afghanistan and Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Weather/Floods task force pages in the hope that someone comments. Wuerzele (talk) 09:19, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

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One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

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List of mass graves: regional or global?

Looking for a bit of thoughtful targeted feedback rather than calling an open RfC.

Talk:List of mass graves in the Middle East #Should this be the region or global?

The more I think about it, the more I think I should start global and then split it if it gets too big? MWQs (talk) 08:18, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Comment on the linked page please. MWQs (talk) 08:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

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WikiProject Risk invitation

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University of Edinburgh assignment - Global Health Challenges Pg Online

Dear all, this is just to flag up that several students on the Global Health Challenges Pg Online course will be researching and improving (in groups) approximately seven stub articles related to WikiProject Disaster management this month. Namely:

  1. 2024 Western megafires
  2. 1983 famine in Ghana
  3. 2016-17 Zimbabwe floods
  4. 2021 Atami landslide
  5. 2005 Kashmir earthquake
  6. 1988 Nepal earthquake
  7. 1976 Manfredonia accidental release of arsenic


So if you see a flurry of activity on these pages in the coming days then don't worry it is not an attack it is just new student editors trying to help improve and expand these articles using their research. If possible please avoid reverts and provide constructive criticism to help the students learn where they be going wrong whether it is wording, style guidelines or formatting or the types of sources being used etc. Hopefully any issues should be minor in nature but any problems or questions, please ask! Thanks, Stinglehammer 86.167.178.121 (talk) 17:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Zoonotic origins of COVID-19#Requested move 14 December 2024

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Requested move at Talk:Tel al-Sultan attack#Requested move 1 January 2025

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