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== New user topicon ==

I quite like these icons, as they help me keep track of some of my important contributions for later reference. I've created one for the signpost: {{Tl|Signpost user topicon}}. --] (]) 11:17, 8 March 2018 (UTC)


== Vandalism Removal ==
== Technology report on new external tools and features ==


I've just found out that an IP ] me and another user from the list last month. Could we do something to prevent that? Thanks ] (]) 14:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
I'm guessing the "new user scripts" list is built by simply checking for changes to ]. What about external tools and the like? Maybe we could manually submit announcements that you'd consider including in the tech report? There are a lot of new and useful Toolforge tools, along with major updates to existing ones, and it'd be neat for them to get the same exposure and free advertising ;) <span style="font-family:sans-serif">&mdash; <span style="font-weight:bold">] <sup>]</sup></span></span> 21:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
:{{Ping|JPxG}} should be easy for an admin to change page privileges?? ☆ <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">]</span> (]) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|MusikAnimal}} I think you'd have to ask Evad37, who it seems is having some problems right now. ] <small><sup>'' ]</sup> <sub>]</sub>'' </small> 00:13, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
::Yeah, this is cooked. I do not see a single IP subscription in this whole list, which suggests there is no reason to not have it semiprotected -- have also taken the liberty of TE-move protecting it because inb4onwheels. <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 22:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)


== Writer Request ==
== Floating a grant proposal for publishing ==


I would like to help write stories for the Signpost as a official writer. Would that be possible. ] (]) 02:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
There was a failed WMF grant ] to fund a Publication Manager for 45 issues. I floated a shorter-term experimental rapid grant ] for three months on a trial basis. This was done without any consultation so it might be dumb. But it might not. Comments can be made at the link provided. I know people want to keep editorial roles strictly separated from WMF support, so if this happened, and I was funded to do it, I would refrain from other ''Signpost'' activities for the duration. ☆ ] (]) 00:56, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


:Write something good and submit it. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Voilà! ] (]) 03:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:I mentioned this project of {{U|Bluerasberry}}'s in my op-ed but I had not researched all the background . Lane's suggestion is not without merit - he's one of our users who often comes up with ideas, I know him well pesonally and have nothing but admiration for his energy. However, there were some valid concerens expressed about the WMF funding suggestion. While it would be an incentive to keep someone in the printinhg house control room, IMHO I believe it would be important to keep the newspaper independent of the Foundation. Having discussed late last night with {{U|Bri}} about trying to get this latest issue out, I'm not so sure that the tasks of 'publisher', while requiring perhaps somewhat more technical knowledge than mine for example, are so onerous that they merit a remunerated position. WE're all volunteers and each one devotes as much time as they can to Misplaced Pages - what is needed just as urgently is also an enthusiastic and responsive editorial team. AFAICS, the current E-in-C is not the only Signpost 'staff' who has not edited in a long while.] (]) 01:33, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
::This is an "and not but" reply. The Publishing Manager role has '''zero''' editorial input. They are a button-pusher for content produced by the editorial staff. ☆ ] (]) 01:45, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
:I think this is brilliant idea. I think the value of the ''Signpost'' is great, and concerns about "independence" do not appear insurmountable. ] ] 01:54, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


== Last (12-12-24) issue was not announced ==
:{{U|Bri}}, having done us the honours last night and publishing this long overdue issue, you know best just exactly what is involved in the 'button pushing', how complex (or not) it is, and how long it takes. Provided the editorial team can select appropriate submissions and copy edit them, and those who provide the regular traffic and tech reports, FA lists, and Arbcom news etc. can get their copy in in time, I belive a punctual monthly issue would be possible. ] (]) 05:08, 30 March 2018 (UTC)


Or at least, not through MassMessage. Was that intentional? — ] ] 15:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::Manual publishing sucks. Kudos to {{u|Bri}}. (Former EIC) ]&nbsp;<sup>]]&nbsp;]]</sup> 23:14, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
:@] it was announced, ]. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>''']<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> (] • ])</span> 15:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
::Probably because I ask for it interwiki, at enws. Seems that all users of ] did not get it (). — ] ] 15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)


== Reply button is not working ==
== "Submissions" footer template ==


While readinga signpost i tried to reply to a comment showing below the page but the button gave me error said
With the current dearth of content, what would thoughts be about attaching this to some of the non-editorial submissions to the signpost? We have so many editors out there, I find it fascinating and engaging to read about the experiences of other editors, especially how other editors contribute and how that might change my own editing. A little message at the bottom of those submissions may also serve to encourage further editor contributions. Thoughts? --] (]) 00:33, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
" Could not find the comment you're replying to on the page"
] (]) 09:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|R1F4T}} - try it now. If you are on the article page, click on the talk tab and then the "edit" or "+" links on the top line. This should work automatically every time, but I think sometimes for the first comment a bit of code gets accidentally removed in the prepublication process (and then it should be just like creating any other talk page). Maybe if the comment was removed while you were typing, you'd get messed up. Maybe if you are commenting on an old article, something different might be happening. ]<sub>(])</sub> <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added 19:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)</small>
::Very belatedly redoing ping to {{ping|R1F4T}} ... ] (]) 15:14, 15 January 2025 (UTC)


== Single-page edition is broken ==
Example:
{|
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| {{icon|Essay|size=25px}} || ''This is an editor submission. You can write one too! We are always looking for contributions from editors and WikiProjects relating to your thoughts, experience here, or for an article or essay about how you've contributed, and with some takeaway messages that might help other editors. You can submit an article or essay ].''
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] is nearly empty, and ] shows the list of stories (slightly broken) but not the stories itself. {{ping|JPxG}} can you take a look? ] (]) <small>(please use ]!)</small> 08:07, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
== New Section idea: recently granted Page Mover / Template Editor permissions ==


:In bed but I think it is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-01-15/Op-ed -- throwing a ref error is what the single page says. Try <pre>intitle:"Signpost/2025-01-15" insource:/\<ref/</pre> to find ref tags in articles ? I would appreciatr someone helping eith this. <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 08:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
This is content that may be of interest to readers, is fairly easily auto-generated, and can highlight (newer) non-admin users. I'm not sure it would be useful to list new AWB / ECP / Rollback users, but maybe I'm wrong. ] (], ]) 19:31, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
::ohhhh i bet its the CALCULATORS. well ok here are the pagesizes
: Yeah, you don't want to touch ECP, there's far too many to cover, especially in a month. I like the TE/PGMOV idea. ]&nbsp;] 19:22, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/From the editors}} From the editors
::I think you're right. How would one go about automating it? {{u|power~enwiki}}? ] <small><sup>'' ]</sup> <sub>]</sub>'' </small> 23:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Traffic report}} Traffic report
::: The API page at is easy to parse. I wrote a quick script available . In the last 28 days, I see new permissions of:
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/In the media}} In the media
:::: '''extendedmover''': User:CASSIOPEIA User:Eric Corbett User:LeoFrank User:Lordtobi User:SamHolt6 User:TaerkastUA
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Technology report}} Technology report
:::: '''templateeditor''': User:Charlesaaronthompson User:Jon Kolbert User:KolbertBot User:Neveselbert User:Outriggr.
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Essay}} Essay
::: Both "reviewer" = pending changes reviewer, and "patroller" = new pages patroller have significantly more activity. ] (], ]) 00:24, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Opinion}} Opinion
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/News and notes}} News and notes
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Serendipity}} Serendipity
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Op-ed}} Op-ed
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/In focus}} In focus
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Arbitration report}} Arbitration report
::* {{PAGESIZE:Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2025-01-15/Humour}} Humour
::<b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 08:28, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Okay, God knows what is actually wrong -- I am severely in need of going back to bed -- but I have gotten some grotesque trailer-park hack to work so that people can, at least, read a working single-page edition for these first few hours. This should be diagnosed and fixed when I wake up. Thanks to {{ping|Tamzin}} for figuring out that just transclusing the articles directly worked... <b style="font-family:monospace;color:#E35BD8">]×]]</b> 08:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Thank you! ] (]) <small>(please use ]!)</small> 09:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Looks like the original version of the single page edition works now, but <code>Post‐expand include size: 2003573/2097152 bytes</code> is really close to the limit. You are probably right that the calculator examples take up quite a bit of that limit (The calculator article is 892980 / 2097152 bytes which is 43% of that limit). ] (]) 12:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Possibly unrelated to the above, I cleaned up some mismatched block and article start/end tags that were causing some of the articles to be too narrow in the single-page edition. A check for matching start/end templates could go on the publication checklist. – ] (]) 18:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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Vandalism Removal

I've just found out that an IP removed me and another user from the list last month. Could we do something to prevent that? Thanks Nobody (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

@JPxG: should be easy for an admin to change page privileges?? ☆ Bri (talk) 19:15, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, this is cooked. I do not see a single IP subscription in this whole list, which suggests there is no reason to not have it semiprotected -- have also taken the liberty of TE-move protecting it because inb4onwheels. jp×g🗯️ 22:40, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Writer Request

I would like to help write stories for the Signpost as a official writer. Would that be possible. WikiEditor5678910 (talk) 02:44, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Write something good and submit it. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Then do it again. Voilà! Carrite (talk) 03:57, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Last (12-12-24) issue was not announced

Or at least, not through MassMessage. Was that intentional? — Alien  3
3 3 15:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

@Alien333 it was announced, for me at least. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 15:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Probably because I ask for it interwiki, at enws. Seems that all users of the interwiki list did not get it (random example). — Alien  3
3 3 15:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Reply button is not working

While readinga signpost i tried to reply to a comment showing below the page but the button gave me error said " Could not find the comment you're replying to on the page" R1F4T (talk) 09:39, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

@R1F4T: - try it now. If you are on the article page, click on the talk tab and then the "edit" or "+" links on the top line. This should work automatically every time, but I think sometimes for the first comment a bit of code gets accidentally removed in the prepublication process (and then it should be just like creating any other talk page). Maybe if the comment was removed while you were typing, you'd get messed up. Maybe if you are commenting on an old article, something different might be happening. Smallbones(smalltalk) — Preceding undated comment added 19:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Very belatedly redoing ping to @R1F4T: ... Graham87 (talk) 15:14, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Single-page edition is broken

Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Single/2025-01-15 is nearly empty, and Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/Single shows the list of stories (slightly broken) but not the stories itself. @JPxG: can you take a look? FunIsOptional (talk) (please use ping!) 08:07, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

In bed but I think it is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2025-01-15/Op-ed -- throwing a ref error is what the single page says. Try 
intitle:"Signpost/2025-01-15" insource:/\<ref/
to find ref tags in articles ? I would appreciatr someone helping eith this. jp×g🗯️ 08:20, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
ohhhh i bet its the CALCULATORS. well ok here are the pagesizes
  • 3,423 From the editors
  • 84,251 Traffic report
  • 18,148 In the media
  • 27,219 Technology report
  • 5,495 Essay
  • 8,006 Opinion
  • 16,051 News and notes
  • 11,139 Serendipity
  • 19,097 Op-ed
  • 16,345 In focus
  • 5,760 Arbitration report
  • 4,172 Humour
jp×g🗯️ 08:28, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, God knows what is actually wrong -- I am severely in need of going back to bed -- but I have gotten some grotesque trailer-park hack to work so that people can, at least, read a working single-page edition for these first few hours. This should be diagnosed and fixed when I wake up. Thanks to @Tamzin: for figuring out that just transclusing the articles directly worked... jp×g🗯️ 08:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you! FunIsOptional (talk) (please use ping!) 09:04, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
Looks like the original version of the single page edition works now, but Post‐expand include size: 2003573/2097152 bytes is really close to the limit. You are probably right that the calculator examples take up quite a bit of that limit (The calculator article is 892980 / 2097152 bytes which is 43% of that limit). Bawolff (talk) 12:57, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Possibly unrelated to the above, I cleaned up some mismatched block and article start/end tags that were causing some of the articles to be too narrow in the single-page edition. A check for matching start/end templates could go on the publication checklist. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

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