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| We have articles for ] (where this article was an unattributed copy from), ], ] and ]. Comparable to ]. ] (]) 15:33, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | We have articles for ] (where this article was an unattributed copy from), ], ] and ]. Comparable to ]. ] (]) 15:33, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| Also nominated for the same reasons: |
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| :{{la|1881 in Scandinavian music}} | |||
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| *<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the ] lists for the following topics: ], ], ], ], ], ], and ]. ] (]) 15:35, 14 January 2025 (UTC)</small> | *<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the ] lists for the following topics: ], ], ], ], ], ], and ]. ] (]) 15:35, 14 January 2025 (UTC)</small> | ||
| *'''Keep''' - This nomination appears to have been made because ] failed to notice previously that the article existed and doesn't believe that ] is a clearly-defined region. This isn't a copy of ]; in fact, content of that article has been copied from ] just to try to prove a point. Who is going to maintain all these "Music in" articles for separate countries? Will they even be completed? ] (]) 15:40, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' - This nomination appears to have been made because ] failed to notice previously that the article existed and doesn't believe that ] is a clearly-defined region. This isn't a copy of ]; in fact, content of that article has been copied from ] just to try to prove a point. Who is going to maintain all these "Music in" articles for separate countries? Will they even be completed? ] (]) 15:40, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
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| *'''Delete'''. I just don't see the justification for a page, or any compelling reason to intersect Scandinavia, music and an individual year. Moreover, Finland was a part of the Russian Empire at the time. ] (]) 22:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | *'''Delete'''. I just don't see the justification for a page, or any compelling reason to intersect Scandinavia, music and an individual year. Moreover, Finland was a part of the Russian Empire at the time. ] (]) 22:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Delete or merge''' If Scandinavian music is an entity itself, then the national articles should be merged to the regional ones. If the national identity is more important, then the regional article should be deleted. There's not a need for this sort of duplication. Either way, for this kind of narrow topic, I'd rather see them as 1880s in X music instead of individual years; when there's not enough info for standalone articles, presenting them with broader context is better. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:39, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | *'''Delete or merge''' If Scandinavian music is an entity itself, then the national articles should be merged to the regional ones. If the national identity is more important, then the regional article should be deleted. There's not a need for this sort of duplication. Either way, for this kind of narrow topic, I'd rather see them as 1880s in X music instead of individual years; when there's not enough info for standalone articles, presenting them with broader context is better. ]<sup>]</sup> 23:39, 14 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| *:agreed, I started with individual years but have changed some into decade articles, will probably do the same for the other ones. ] (]) 08:42, 15 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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We have articles for 1882 in Norwegian music (where this article was an unattributed copy from), 1880s in Danish music, 1882 in Finnish music and 1880s in Swedish music. Comparable to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/2015 in Scandinavian music. Fram (talk) 15:33, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
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Fram (talk) 17:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Music, Lists, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden. Shellwood (talk) 15:35, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep - This nomination appears to have been made because User:Fram failed to notice previously that the article existed and doesn't believe that Scandinavia is a clearly-defined region. This isn't a copy of 1882 in Norwegian music; in fact, content of that article has been copied from 1882 in Scandinavian music just to try to prove a point. Who is going to maintain all these "Music in" articles for separate countries? Will they even be completed? Deb (talk) 15:40, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- 2017 version of 1882 in Norwegian music: in your article 1882 in Scandinavian music you have the same three entries with the exact same reference (even down to the copied access-date). Please tell me how you achieved this without copying the older Norway article? Fram (talk) 15:59, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- They're not copies, they are used in a thoughtful way; the wording is not identical. Not that this has anything to do with the proposed deletion of the article. Deb (talk) 16:40, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- 2017 version of 1882 in Norwegian music: in your article 1882 in Scandinavian music you have the same three entries with the exact same reference (even down to the copied access-date). Please tell me how you achieved this without copying the older Norway article? Fram (talk) 15:59, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've added 1881 in Scandinavian music to this nomination, as the same reasons apply. Fram (talk) 17:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- in a previous version of this article, now at 1880s in Danish music, I had removed an entry where the sources indicate that the year is unknown (early 1880s), not certain to be 1881; another entry where the only link with 1881 is that the much earlier event is described in a letter from that year, hardly something important for 1881; and had corrected the title of a work. The claims of "Who is going to maintain all these "Music in" articles" when they are started as unattributed copies of someone else's work, and then expanded with such entries, ring rather hollow. Fram (talk) 17:06, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:52, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I just don't see the justification for a page, or any compelling reason to intersect Scandinavia, music and an individual year. Moreover, Finland was a part of the Russian Empire at the time. Geschichte (talk) 22:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or merge If Scandinavian music is an entity itself, then the national articles should be merged to the regional ones. If the national identity is more important, then the regional article should be deleted. There's not a need for this sort of duplication. Either way, for this kind of narrow topic, I'd rather see them as 1880s in X music instead of individual years; when there's not enough info for standalone articles, presenting them with broader context is better. Reywas92 23:39, 14 January 2025 (UTC)
- agreed, I started with individual years but have changed some into decade articles, will probably do the same for the other ones. Fram (talk) 08:42, 15 January 2025 (UTC)