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| :Sclua, I made some changes to the article, to let Jotamar re-write his version there without stepping into your version. This should hopefully avoid edit wars, and make a better article --] (]) 02:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | :Sclua, I made some changes to the article, to let Jotamar re-write his version there without stepping into your version. This should hopefully avoid edit wars, and make a better article --] (]) 02:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| ] This is the '''last warning''' you will receive for your disruptive edits{{#if:Crown of Aragon|, such as the one you made to ]}}. <br/> Any further ] '''will''' result in you being ] from editing Misplaced Pages. {{#if:|{{{2}}}|}}<!-- Template:uw-vandalism4 --> --] (]) 13:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| You have removed ''again'' the government of aragon source. Please address my comments and stop removing sources from articles. I explain you how you are making original research with the words from Menendez-Pidal. Please provide a exact book and number page of the Menendez-Pidal claims so they can verify. You also claim that the dynastic union is on Berenguer and you provide no explanation other than you personal assesment of the situation, unbacked by any sort of secondary source studying the situtation. --] (]) 13:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Coat of arms of Catalonia
I don't understand your reverting my modifications to the page Coat of arms of Catalonia. I beg you to explain that, because I don't like editing wars. --Jotamar (talk) 16:52, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Contestaré a tu mensaje en castellano, espero que nadie nos llame la atención.
- Primero de todo, yo no he añadido ninguna bandera de los estados papales, tendrías que explicarme a qué te refieres exactamente.
- El ejemplo que pones de Blas Piñar suena bastante exagerado, la verdad. Y en todo caso me parece que en el bando catalán también debe haber algún Blas Piñar que otro.
- Respecto a la fecha de 1159, seguramente es un error, yo lo que había oído es un sello de Alfonso II de 1167. Este sello que yo sepa es aceptado por todo el mundo, por lo tanto es la primera undisputed evidence, si tienes claro lo que significa undisputed.
- Pero vamos al grano: mis modificaciones que has revertido. Como había comentado en mi modificación lo que a mí me interesa es el "Neutral point of view", y si digo que hay quien duda del sello de Ramon Berenguer IV de 1150 (rey de Aragón de facto, aunque no de iure), eso es objetivamente cierto, y la referencia externa lo prueba. Yo no digo lo que es cierto y lo que no, sólo expongo que hay distintas opiniones, ahí está el NPOV.
- En definitiva, la manera de mejorar la Misplaced Pages no es borrar lo que no te gusta, por muy seguro que estés de su invalidez. Hay que matizar, poner en contexto, y sobre todo documentar, pero no andar borrando por ahí por las buenas.
Dicho esto, espero que recuperes lo que yo añadí al artículo, añadiendo tus propias matizaciones. Si quieres, pásame el texto que consideres más exacto (y respetando el NPOV) en castellano y yo lo traduciré. Saludos --Jotamar (talk) 21:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
- You are very stubborn, Sclua, and you don't seem to have any interest in either consensus or the neutral point of view. If you expect me to just get tired and forget about this whole issue, you can't be more misguided. Just for starters, it's hight time you read this :
I expect you to do something about Coat of arms of Catalonia. For the moment I'm following Misplaced Pages's guidelines that recommend to be patient with inexperienced users like you. --Jotamar (talk) 00:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Sclua, I made some changes to the article, to let Jotamar re-write his version there without stepping into your version. This should hopefully avoid edit wars, and make a better article --Enric Naval (talk) 02:17, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
May 2008
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits, such as the one you made to Crown of Aragon.
Any further vandalism will result in you being blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. --Enric Naval (talk) 13:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
You have removed again the government of aragon source. Please address my comments here and stop removing sources from articles. I explain you how you are making original research with the words from Menendez-Pidal. Please provide a exact book and number page of the Menendez-Pidal claims so they can verify. You also claim that the dynastic union is on Berenguer and you provide no explanation other than you personal assesment of the situation, unbacked by any sort of secondary source studying the situtation. --Enric Naval (talk) 13:35, 7 May 2008 (UTC)