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Vacio

Vacio (talk · contribs) is involved in edit warring and POV pushing on a number of articles related to Armenia - Azerbaijan topics. For instance, in the article about Nagorno-Karabakh he has been trying to suppress the info about the Treaty of Kurekchay for quite some time. Originally he removed the mention of the treaty and the link to the article about it on 13 March: , and a week later he nominated the article about the treaty for deletion: Vacio claimed that no sources about the treaty were available, despite the fact that the text of the treaty in Russian from a scholarly publication, secondary sources mentioning the treaty and even the scans of the original document were provided. The result of the nomination was to keep the article. Despite that, Vacio started an edit war in Nagorno-Karabakh article, removing the information about the treaty. He did that 3 times within the last 4 days: In addition, he is attaching baseless tags claiming that the article about the treaty is an original research: This is an obvious attempt to suppress the information about this document, as there could be no reasonable doubt about the existence of the document, after so many sources being provided. Another article where Vacio wages an edit war is that about Ibrahim Khalil Khan, where he removes statements from the scholarly sources, which say that the person was Azeri, or adds a statement that he was either Azeri or Turkic, as if Azeri cannot be Turkic. It is well known, that Azerbaijani people are one of the Turkic peoples, so it is the same as saying that a Russian person is either Russian or Slavic. As one could see, this user has been engaged in a pointless edit warring on a number of pages, disrupting normal editing. It is worth to mention that Vacio has been twice placed on editing restrictions, but both times the sanctions were lifted, first time because the arbitration enforcing admin was given incorrect information that Vacio had no prior warning, , while in fact Vacio was officially warned: , and second time after Vacio promised not to edit war.

I think the recent activity of Vacio in arbitration covered area warrants placing him on editing restriction again. According to the ruling of the arbitration case Armenia-Azerbaijan 2, Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. So please consider placing this user on editing restriction, because his behavior has not improved after he was given second chances. Grandmaster 06:15, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Reviewed this user's contributions. Edit-warring to Ibrahim Khalil Khan while telling other users not to edit war, reverting an opponent on his own talk page after opponent is blocked, etc, etc; tendentiousness. Seems relatively clear that he too should be on the restriction, so I'm imposing it. I noticed too that Elsanturk violated his 1rr restriction, though this was three days ago so it's a bit stale at this point. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 09:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Altough Deacon of Pndapetzim already placed me under AA restriction, I hope admins will pay attention to my plea. Please give me some minuts... --Vacio (talk) 12:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Ayn_Rand

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Some relevant links

• Ayn Rand (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• TallNapoleon (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• LoveMonkey (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Peter Damian (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Snowded (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Brushcherry (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Snowded (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

The editing environment at Ayn Rand has begun to rapidly degenerate yet again. Personal attacks, insults and accusations of bad faith are flying, and large series of edits are being made to the article without consultation on the talk page. I would like to urgently request administrator intervention to help enforce the recent ArbCom ruling. TallNapoleon (talk) 08:06, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Please provide diffs of any misconduct as well as links to the relevant page(s).  Sandstein  10:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I would like to note here that a set of editors on the article appear to be engaging in editwarring technics of frustration and personal attack. They are also attacking peer reviewed sources because those sources specialize in the subject and are therefore by these editors standards are "biased". I joined the article on March 19 alittle over 10 days ago and have been in protracted and unproductive arguments and been called insane on Jimbo's personal talkpage by one of the warring editors. LoveMonkey (talk) 12:42, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Here's User:Peter Damian Insults and threats and general disruptive behavior.

• 1.Here Peter Damian goes to JIMBO's talkpage and claims that I am insane.

• 2

• 3.Here Peter Damian clears up who the message on JIMBO's talkpage was for with a clear and disrespectful attitude..

• 4."As academic philosophers take little interest in our topic, it follows that, in general, they are not a good source for it. " This is easily one of the stupidest things you have said. Which is something in itself." This one after Peter Damian accused an editor of being a WP:Dick.

• 5."As I said, I refuse to contribute to this train wreck, I am just going to hack it to pieces from the sidelines until someone decides to write something clear, sensible and well-sourced." This comment (not directed at me) is what prompts me to state that this editor and his cohorts are not at all about improving the article. This clearly states their editing agenda and their behavior validates the comment.

Examples of his refusial to remove the insults and threats of reporting to Arbcomm. He refused the request to remove the comments from administrator User:DGG.

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• 3.

Here's User:Snowded disruptive, disrespectful, hyer critical and obstructionistic tactics.

Using Misplaced Pages Policy to frustrate and edit war. In general argumentive and unapologetic about behavior even after being banned.

• 1.Scared aware and love it!
• 2.Accusing me of violating WP:3RR and letting me know that he will make sure to not be so lax in the future.
• 3

LoveMonkey (talk) 13:24, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Please format your comment coherently (signature at the end only, all lines at the same level of indentation) and notify Peter Damian of this thread.  Sandstein  13:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I have notified both Peter Damian and Snowded and their respective talkpages. LoveMonkey (talk) 13:54, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

I hope you have more success that the rest of us in getting LoveMonkey to use indents properly Sandstein. As for the rest we have an editor who edit warred against consensus on Existentialism here, here, here and here advocating a particular unsupported and insupportable position failing to address any of the arguments and attempts to help advanced on the talk page as can be seen here. S/he has now arrived at the Ayn Rand page with similar propositions. The recent unsupported insertion of material on the Prisoner here where his position again fails to address any of the reasoned arguments but simply rambles around a partially understood subject. Most editors have tried their best to be polite, but I can understand Peter's response. Politely pointing out that no evidence has been presented that in any way says the Prisoner writers or cast were influenced by Rand, produced an attack on editors here with no attempt to address the content. There are several other examples. He has now issued a general and unsupported accusation above " disruptive, disrespectful, hyer critical and obstructionistic". In respect of his/her specific references, on point 1 I made the point that scaring away people who rejected consensus was not something I would feel guilty about, and in respect of the second I made no threats, but simply pointed out that had other editors not attempted to comply with WP:BITE he would have been reported for 3RR on Existentialism.

In addition we have BushCherry who was sanctioned to diversify his/her interests and engage on the talk page with the subject not the editors. In practice all bar one edit (check his contributions page) have been on the Ayn Rand talk page, and they are all commentaries on the editors not the content. --Snowded (talk) 14:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

This is Arbitration enforcement. Please don't come here unless you have a particular arbitration remedy to enforce. This has not been listed, so I don't see much to do here. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 14:29, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

AA2 breach

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Rather amusing that Brandspoyt below selectively chose who was at fault in the edit wars. For all that, let's not forget that Elsanaturk (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is essentially a revert warrior who pops in and out of articles, without really adding any material. As a party to AA as well as AA2 and despite numerous warnings, he reverted no less than three times on the same article below , , , without contributing anything to the article's talk page. According to decisions made in AA2, "any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process." A similar pattern of war-reverts seems to exist among other articles as well.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 19:25, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Could you provide us with diffs for the "numerous warnings", as well as for any recent disruptive conduct, other than that edit war, that would warrant AA2 sanctions? Also, please notify Elsanaturk of this thread.  Sandstein  19:37, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Ignoring Meowy's pleas, the "numerous" warnings refer to his knowledge of the 3RR rule and the guidelines in place of AA see here. Blind reverts have taken place here and here as well recently (the latter edit doesn't even distinguish that the fact that seven cited sources support the exact opposite of his reverts).--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Not actionable. You provide no diffs of warnings given to Elsanaturk, only one revert by him and one other edit (which is not in fact a revert) that it seems you object to because you disagree with it. In other words, you provide no evidence of continued disruption that would warrant a sanction. Please do not misuse this noticeboard for frivolous requests, or you may yourself be made subject to sanctions.  Sandstein  21:32, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

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AA2 breach

On Oct 18, 2007 Meowy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) was placed termlessly under AA2 restrictions and is listed among people placed under the editing restrictions. He was limited to one revert per page per week, excepting obvious vandalism, but recently made three reverts in two days at the same page: , , . Despite Meowy's appeals for sticking to talk it was him who resorted to edit-warring. Previously he removed other user’s comment at AfD discussion, allegedly because he did not like it. According to AA2 decision, any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. brandспойт 13:59, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Y Blocked for 48 hours for the revert restriction violation.  Sandstein  14:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

The Original Wildbear

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• The Original Wildbear (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

The user's page states, Promoting accuracy in information. They have been disrupting Talk:Collapse of the World Trade Center with tendentious, repetitious arguments. It is highly disruptive to repeat the same rejected proposals over and over again. We've seen this pattern many times before. I request that this account be banned from all 9/11 pages under WP:ARB9/11's discretionary sanctions. Thank you. Jehochman 08:35, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Each single-purpose account that shows up beating the drum for the conspiracy theories should be warned once, and then banned from the 9/11 pages. There's no reason to keep going through this again and again. Tom Harrison 01:35, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

See for example User:DawnisuponUS. Tom Harrison 02:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Who apparently had experience of editing Misplaced Pages before that account was created. Dougweller (talk) 18:31, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, some of the accounts appearing at this venue appear to be similar in personality to prior accounts that were banned. Jehochman 19:18, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Could you or another administrator please give the user an official warning. That way they cannot claim lack of warning next time. There is in fact a warning about WP:NOR and 9/11 on their talk page at this very moment, but it does not specificly mention the arbitration case. Jehochman 18:18, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Done, Tom Harrison 12:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Is there proof that The Original Wildbear is User:DawnisuponUS? A cursory inspection indicates although there is a small overlap they edit at different times of day. Is "similar in personality" to a banned user a criteria for banning another user? Is it good faith to request a user be warned without any proof he has done anything to warrant a warning "just in case"? As you say "some of the accounts appearing at this venue" in the plural I assume you mean me as I'm the only one outside of your own supporters posting. Justify or retract the accusation. Wayne (talk) 07:57, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

No accusation was made. Stop disrupting this board with battleground tactics, please. Jehochman 15:30, 30 March 2009 (UTC)