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==== Issues suggested by FT2 ==== | |||
Key points the ruling needs to cover: | |||
1) '''Dispute resolution (1)''' - Involvement in a Misplaced Pages dispute is aimed at calming and resolving the editorial disagreement, not "acting out" the real-world controversy. The "messier" the dispute, the more important it is that admins and experienced users are helping with good quality conduct and do not incite the controversy. Users joining a dispute are especially expected to do so to help calm it down and reduce the "heat". They should '''only''' do so to help focus the existing participants upon Misplaced Pages issues and evidence, not personalities, and upon Misplaced Pages DR processes not battlegrounds. | |||
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3) '''NPOV''' - NPOV is a core policy. Climate change articles, like all others, should reflect all significant views, and in areas where science speaks, the scientific view will usually be the most authoritative. '''And yet''' other significant views should be well explained so a reader can understand the view of their proponents, with fair explanation of their criticisms. Excessive zeal that seeks to impose fringe views, and excessive zeal that seeks to remove or marginalize fringe views beyond "due weight", are both breaches of NPOV. Views should not be "squeezed out" or misrepresented by excessive zeal. Users have a difficult balancing act, whether "scientist" or "skeptic" they must reflect what will surely be a science focused article with skeptic views included. That balancing act is required by NPOV. It cuts both ways, and it's not always easy, but users need to be reminded exactly what NPOV is about. | |||
4) '''Quote farming''' (minor but seems to come up a lot) - Misplaced Pages's core editorial processes (CONSENSUS, DR) consider that "number of quotes" is not as important as "weight of views". Simple "quote mining" as a means to produce a desired result is usually inappropriate since it seeks to find a quote for a fixed view, rather than consider what weight the fixed view has in reliable sources. (See ]) "Quote farming" can show a view exists and an example of its supporters, but often '''cannot''' show due weight. A more correct process if due weight itself is contested, is to assess the significant views, their authority and predominance, and the weight they have in the most credible sources, '''then''' cite no more than one or two sources as evidence they exist. | |||
5) '''Vested users and admins''' - Review of the involvement of those admins and vested users accused of having an adverse effect on the debate or who claim an "uninvolved" nature that is challenged by others (whether or not actually at fault). This would provides communal certainty as to which admins (or experienced users) really are "acting appropriately" and which are not. Dispute handling is being held back by accusations of bias against experienced/uninvolved editors and admins. Some of those accusations may be true and some are unfounded. This would let them do their jobs properly without constant accusations, or for those users mis-editing it would let it be said clearly if they were acting in a partisan manner. | |||
6) '''Draconian measures''' - In some areas the degree of edit warring and socking is so substantial that draconian measures may be needed to obtain the editorial environment needed for Misplaced Pages policies and reliable sourced evidence to be considered. It may be necessary at times to remove "users who act like known socks" or "users who appear to be unhelpful SPA's", <u>without prejudice</u>, simply because although Misplaced Pages relies upon fresh contributors, in this high-profile topic it's important to reach good quality and relative stability, and the sock users and POV warriors are persistent, numerous, and at times organized and experienced. A lower level of "chance-taking" may be appropriate to keep the articles relatively free of known habitual sock-puppeters. (This would need safeguards against abuse, obviously) | |||
7) '''Larger picture''' - Consider the views of Mackan79, Nigelj and Lar at ]. The larger question is how can NPOV and other core policies be maintained and an article or topic area develop against those policies, when such powerful external influences (cultural, belief, fundamental questions of weight, vested interests, claims of data manipulation, etc) are prevalent and where fixed-view groups of editors have formed. While "Arbcom doesn't make policy" it has more than once told users in a big dispute to go away and consider a better resolution process, and that's what is needed here - although on a much larger scale than the simple "naming disputes" of the past. I think Arbcom needs to rather forcefully hint that the community itself needs to develop some concrete suggestions on how it might develop skills and processes for editing of these kinds of areas. I have two quick proposals I'm refining on this. Perhaps one of those will be useful. ''(Note that this is <u>not</u> encouraging an "amnesty and go discuss it" solution, it's an extra item that is needed; Arbcom does need to address issues here as well)'' | |||
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Suggested topic(s) by LessHeard vanU
1) Is the scientific communities consensus regarding Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW), as evidenced by reliable sources, the encyclopedic neutral point of view? 00:45, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
2) In determining NPOV should the fact and content of claims denying or skeptic toward AGW be weighed by their prominence in general media reliable sources, irrespective of it being a minority and challenged viewpoint within the scientific community or not being made from a sustainable scientific basis? 00:51, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
3) Have some editors who subscribe to the scientific consensus regarding AGW acted in such a manner to restrict viewpoints outside of that consensus from being represented in the main articles, contrary to WP:DUE? 20:45, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
4) Is there evidence of a concerted effort, including off site media, to diminish or deprecate the scientific consensus presented within AGW articles, contrary to WP:DUE and WP:V? 20:50, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
5) Are the interactions between contributors who edit toward the scientific consensus and those who edit in a manner to more widely represent the AGW denial or skeptic viewpoint generally in accordance with the preferred WP policies of consensus through respectful discussion and use of established methods of dispute resolution, or more example battlefield mentality? 20:58, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
6) Is the widely (but not universally) adopted practice of seeking consensus between uninvolved administrators at the AE/CC/Enforcement Requests page appropriate? 10:34, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Issues by Hipocrite
1) When evaluating the prominence of a scientific argument, what is the appropriate weight given to various media types?
2) How are new, single-purpose accounts to be dealt-with in the area?
3) Are all editors appropriately following sourcing policies?
4) Are all adminstraotors appropraitely following involvement standards?
5) Are current involvement standards appropraite?
Sub-issues suggested by JohnWBarber
1) Should the current community probation on Global Warming articles be modified by having the Arbitration Committee appoint the administrators who would deliberate on complaints at the WP:GSCCRE page?
2) If the Arbitration Committee decides to appoint administrators to deliberate on complaints at the WP:GSCCRE page, should it ask the community in a year's time to suggest to ArbCom whether WP:GSCC is still needed in any form, and if so, whether that new, ArbCom-appointed set-up should be continued or revert back to the present set-up, and in either case, whether it should be modified in other ways?
Suggested question by Tryptofish
1) Should the Committee provide a definition of "uninvolved administrator", for purposes of aiding Arbitration Enforcement in the future? --17:22, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Suggested issues to examine by Cla68
1) Has there been any extended abuse of BLP articles by a group of established editors, including one or more administrators?
2) Have any established editors, including one or more administrators, employed incivility including personal attacks, bullying, baiting, sarcasm, and insults over an extended period of time on the talk pages of any of the climate change articles and, if so, did the behavior result in decreased cooperation, collaboration, and compromise in expanding or improving the content of those articles?
4) Have any established editors, including one or more administrators, displayed contempt, derision, or indifference towards Misplaced Pages's policies, guidelines, and/or article-improvement forums such as WP:Good Article or WP:Featured Article?
5) Have any established editors, including one or more administrators, used delaying tactics in article talk page discussions including non sequiturs, wikilawyering, and revert warring to impede addition of new content to any climate change articles?
6) Have any established editors who may have a conflict of interest, such as having a close personal or professional relationship with BLP subjects involved with climate change controversies, edited climate change articles in a way that could be interpreted as a violation of NPOV?
Suggested issues to examine by Lar
1) Should the Scientific point of view be used in the GW/CC area instead of NPOV?
2a) Does article goodness (and scientific accuracy) excuse poor editing behavior to the point that the ends justify the means, or does it matter what the editing process to get the articles to that state was?
2b)Further, is Global Warming such a dire threat to mankind that Misplaced Pages should take a position on it or at least modify normal standards to ensure that the articles adhere to generally accepted scientific consensus at all times and in all ways?
3a) Should the definition of "uninvolved" as used in the CC/RE pages be modified to conform to the generally accepted definition elsewhere? (taking into account editing in the general area as well as editor interaction)
3b) If so, should this modification also apply to other enforcement areas beyond CC/RE or is CC/RE a special case?
4) Are the following editors "uninvolved"? (list to be supplied later)
5a) Has the "Duck test" been broadened inappropriately?
5b) Is the "Duck test" routinely misapplied?
6) Is the "Scibaby threat" so dire that normal standards of evidence, investigation, and process, including allowing the accused some chance to speak for themselves, should not be used, or can normal processes deal with Scibaby and other high volume sockpuppets?
Submitted for consideration. ++Lar: t/c 13:17, 14 June 2010 (UTC) ... and revised. ++Lar: t/c 19:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Suggested issues to examine by Polargeo
1) Should the fact that an admin has not edited a Climate Change article give them carte blanche to deal with an editor in this area no matter what the admin's past history with the editor may be? Polargeo (talk) 14:21, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Suggested Issues to examine by ATren
- Is it appropriate for editors with a strong POV to be editing the biographies of people with whom they disagree?
- Is it appropriate for editors to add blog-sourced criticism to BLPs, and in particular, when the editors have prior association with those blogs?
- Is the disruption caused by individual Scibaby socks so severe that we are willing to block on little or no evidence (i.e. less than 25 non-vandalism edits, no checkuser support)?
- Has the zeal of a small group of long term editors, protecting against real or presumed socks, caused a de-facto banning of opposing views in this topic area?
- Should editors be held to a basic standard of civility?
- Does truth supercede verifiability?
ATren (talk) 14:39, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Issues suggested by Stephan Schulz
1) Is climate change a field in which "expertise is irrelevant", because Misplaced Pages only "reflects what reliable sources say" or is climate change a large, complex scientific topic in which a general understanding is necessary to achieve due weight?
2) How can the community deal with high-volume sophisticated socking without causing editor burn-out?
3) Should participation in off-wiki discussions be taken into account when determining good faith and civility? --Stephan Schulz (talk) 09:26, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
--Stephan Schulz (talk) 18:25, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Issues suggested by ZuluPapa5
- 1) Should William M. Connolley be topic banned for uncivil disruptions?
- 2) Should Stephan Schulz be admonished for enabling William M. Connolley's problematic behavior?
-- Zulu Papa 5 * (talk) 19:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Issues suggested by William M. Connolley
1) Are wikipedia's science-of-climate-change articles (headed by global warming) generally held in high or low regard externally? 21:38, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
2) Should editors be held to a basic standard of usefulness? 21:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
William M. Connolley (talk) 21:54, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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