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Candidate entries
Articles created/expanded on September 20
Articles created/expanded on September 19
Christian bookstore, Gaza
- ... that the only Christian bookstore in Gaza closed after its owner was beaten and murdered by armed extremists?
created by User:AMuseo (talk). Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Canadian Air-Sea Transportable Brigade Group
- ... that the Canadian Air-Sea Transportable Brigade Group ('CAST) was formed to rapidly reinforce Norway in the event of an invasion by the USST, but was disbanded after Operation BRAVE LION required two years of planning and 21 days to cross the Atlantic?
Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 23:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Frederick E. Morgan
- ... that Lieutenant General Frederick E. Morgan, the original planner of Operation Overlord, was widely believed to have been accidentally appointed the British Controller of Atomic Energy instead of General Sir William Duthie Morgan?
5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 22:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Adelaide leak
- ... that although cricketer Jack Fingleton was blamed for the Adelaide leak, he later accused Donald Bradman of providing the story?
- ALT1:... that Pelham Warner, the Marylebone Cricket Club manager, was so angered by the Adelaide leak, he offered a reward to the English bowler who could dismiss Jack Fingleton, the person he believed was responsible, in the next innings.
Created by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 20:43, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Toyota Celica LB Turbo
- ... that the Toyota Celica LB Turbo was the only non-German car to compete in the top category of the Deutsche Rennsport Meisterschaft during its competitive career?
- ALT1:... that when the Toyota Celica LB Turbo finished 4th in the Nürburgring round of the Deutsche Rennsport Meisterschaft in 1977 and 8th at Mainz-Finthen in 1978, it was the highest finishing car that was not a Porsche 935?
Created by Donnie Park (talk). Nominated by Donnie Park (talk) at 20:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Paul S. Martin, Paul Sidney Martin
- ... that in the early 1970s the University of Arizona employed anthropologists Paul Sidney Martin and Paul S. Martin?
Created by User:Davidlchandler and yours truly. - East of Borschov 19:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Tamaulipas massacre
- ... that the Tamaulipas massacre that occurred on 24 August 2010 has been described as "the worst atrocity" of the Mexican Drug War?
Created by Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Ambam
- ... that in January 2010, the mayor of Ambam was arrested and accused of the embezzlement of 20 million CFA Francs?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 16:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Prose originally less than 500 bytes. More than expanded x5. Dr. Blofeld 16:17, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
UAAP Season 73 men's basketball tournament
- ... that during a game on the 2010 season, University of the Philippines basketball coach Boyet Fernandez instructed his player to deliberately cross the shaded lane while a free-throw is being attempted to force a double lane violation?
- Comment: This might be too technical to compress into 200 letters so the reader might not get it. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 16:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Nominated by Howard the Duck (talk) at 16:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's 233 characters. How about the following, which is exactly 200? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that during a 2010 game, the University of the Philippines basketball coach told a player to deliberately cross the shaded lane while a free-throw was being attempted to force a double lane violation?
- I'd prefer the coach being named. Why not ditch "double lane violation" and change it to "jump ball" since that was his purpose in instructing his player to cross the lane? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Okay. ALT2 is also 200 characters. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that during a 2010 game, University of the Philippines basketball coach Boyet Fernandez told a player to deliberately cross the shaded lane while a free-throw was being attempted to force a jump ball?
- Verified. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's 233 characters. How about the following, which is exactly 200? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Vespa luctuosa
- ... that the Philippine hornet Vespa luctuosa has the most lethal venom by weight of any known wasp species?
Created by IronGargoyle (talk). Self nom at 15:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Brijesh Mishra
- ... that Brijesh Mishra was the first National Security Advisor of India, prior to which the post did not exist?
Created by LogicDictates 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC). Nominated by LogicDictates 13:49, 19 September 2010 (UTC).
Alpiq
- ... that the Swiss based Alpiq owns a 60% stake in the Grande Dixence SA, company that manages the Grande Dixence Dam?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Pope John Paul II's visit to the United Kingdom
- ... that Pope John Paul II's 1982 visit to the United Kingdom was the first made to that country by a reigning Pope?
Created by TheRetroGuy (talk). Nominated by TheRetroGuy (talk) at 12:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
The West Wing (season 7)
- ... that the seventh season of The West Wing featured a live television episode that was broadcast twice for the East and West coasts of the United States?
5x expanded by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Samuel Rabin (artist)
- ... that artist and sculptor Samuel Rabin was also a professional wrestler and opera singer who appeared in The Scarlet Pimpernel and won a bronze medal in wrestling at the 1928 Summer Olympics?
Created by DavidCane (talk). Self nom at 03:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Tweaked hook slightly for grammar. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 04:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 18
Joseph Bringas
- ... that the parakoimomenos Joseph Bringas resisted the rise of the general Nikephoros Phokas to the Byzantine throne, but was overthrown after three days of street clashes in Constantinople?
5x expanded by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 17:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Rebecca Nolin
- ... that former Chelsea L.F.C. captain Rebecca Nolin now plays as a defender for the Atlanta Beat?
- ALT1:that Atlanta Beat defender Rebecca Nolin was once captain of Chelsea L.F.C.?
- Comment: Article created via WP:AFC, moved into mainspace Sept 18.
Created by 90.221.202.90 (talk). Nominated by Strange Passerby (talk) at 07:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Wallace Turner
- ... that after winning a Pulitzer Prize at The Oregonian, Wallace Turner went on to The New York Times where he covered the murder of Harvey Milk?
Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Nominated by Aboutmovies (talk) at 06:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Electromyrmococcus
- ... that amber fossils of ants carrying the extinct mealybug genus Electromyrmococcus represent the oldest record of symbiosis between mealybugs and Acropyga ants.?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Bill McKown
- ... that Bill McKown (pictured) went from being a youth with 200 model airplanes hanging from his bedroom ceiling to being a Navy E2-C Hawkeye pilot, commander of squadron VAW-114, and Distinguished Eagle Scout?
Created/expanded by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 23:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Bhutan-Nepal relations
- ... that Bhutan-Nepal relations have been adversely affected by the presence of Bhutanese refugees, who reside in seven U.N.-run camps in Nepal?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 23:04, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Someday Soon (Ian Tyson song)
- ... that the Ian Tyson song "Someday Soon" has been a charted single for Judy Collins, Moe Bandy and Suzy Bogguss?
Created by TenPoundHammer (talk). Nominated by TenPoundHammer (talk) at 22:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Bud Ogden
- ... that Bud Ogden was selected in two consecutive NBA Drafts?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt1: ... that Bud Ogden played for the Philadelphia 76ers, his younger brother played for the San Francisco Warriors and his father was awarded the Medal of Honor?
- - boths hooks are good. Dincher (talk) 21:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Portuguese-Mamluk War
- ... that the Portuguese-Mamluk War (battle illustrated) was an attempt by the Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt to stop the expansion of the Portuguese in the Indian Ocean in the early 16th century?
Created/expanded by Per Honor et Gloria (talk). Nominated by Per Honor et Gloria (talk) at 21:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:54, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Finless sleeper ray
- ... that finless sleeper ray may be the smallest cartilaginous fish, with the smallest adult specimen measuring 8.2 cm (3.2 in) long?
5x expanded by User:Yzx (talk). Self nom at 21:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
John Durkin (footballer)
- ... that Scottish footballer John Durkin combined playing for Gillingham F.C. with a job at a coal mine?
Created by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 21:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Amir Mir
- ... that journalist Amir Mir declined an award from former Pakistani President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, criticizing him as a dictator who violated the Constitution of Pakistan and did not respect the freedom of expression?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 17:24, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
ADEOS II (satellite)
- ... that the ADEOS II satellite, which cost 70 billion Yen (US$570 million) to develop, failed 10 months into the mission after the solar panel malfunctioned?
Created by Mattgirling (talk). Self nom at 17:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Piotrków Trybunalski Castle
- ... that the 1493 Sejm held at the Piotrków Trybunalski Castle (pictured) was the first two chamber parliament in Poland?
Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 16:36, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Bell Savage Inn
- ... that in 1684, the Bell Savage Inn in London exhibited the first rhinoceros to be seen in England?
Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 16:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Article length, history, and source check out. But I found at least one passage that had wording taken directly from the source material without quotation marks (and it's the only section I looked at closely). As a rule of thumb, once one passage is found to be suspect, the whole article needs to be checked. rʨanaɢ (talk) 16:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- "Assuming good faith is a fundamental principle on Misplaced Pages". No plagiarism was intended. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 16:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- We AGF in the beginning, but the point is if plagiarism is found somewhere in the article, the whole article is suspect; if you've already slipped in one part of the article, there's no guarantee that you didn't slip elsewhere too; you yourself seem to have now acknowledged that you did this on other passages as well. Trying to deflect scrutiny by wikilawyering doesn't help either. rʨanaɢ (talk) 17:01, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Urban Land Committees, Land titling
- ... that via Urban Land Committees over 300,000 Venezuelan urban households have benefited from a land titling program?
Created by Rd232 (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note - both Urban Land Committees and land titling are new articles I've just created. I think they're eligible to be counted together? (Not that it matters if the statscheck is broken again...) Rd232 15:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Society reporting
- … that the first proper society page in the United States was the invention of James Gordon Bennett, Jr. for the New York Herald?
Me again. Uncle G (talk) 13:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Serra da Mesa Dam
- ... that the Serra da Mesa Dam creates the largest reservoir by volume in Brazil?
Created/self-nom by NortyNort (Holla) 11:52, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Gonggar County, Shannan Prefecture, Gonggar Choide Monastery, Gonggar Dzong, Lhasa Gonggar Airport
- ... that Gonggar County of the Shannan Prefecture in Tibet contains both a monastery, a dzong, and a regional airport (pictured) which serves Lhasa, despite being located about 62 kilometres (39 mi) from it?
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 11:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Left some tags needing attention. Materialscientist (talk) 01:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hook could be better worded; "both" suggests only two items. Strange Passerby (talk • c • status) 05:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Itumbiara Dam
- ... that the Itumbiara Dam (pictured) is Eletrobras Furnas' largest power plant and the sixth largest in Brazil?
Created/self-nom byNortyNort (Holla) 09:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: I also created the Eletrobras Furnas article but afterward, I saw that (Furnas (company)) had existed. The article was not linked to the Eletrobras article, not titled correctly and was not in the proper category so I did not see it. As it was smaller, less structured, needed to be updated and had no references, I reduced it to a redirect. Anyway, I had no idea it existed and I was still curious if I would get credit for both. --NortyNort (Holla) 09:46, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Graham Lovett
- ... that English footballer Graham Lovett was forced to retire aged 26 years, following two serious motor accidents in less than three years?
Created by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk). Nominated by Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) at 06:07, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Leonardo Mascheroni
- ... that according to the United States government, nuclear physicist Leonardo Mascheroni attempted to sell nuclear secrets to Venezuela with the aim of helping that country obtain a nuclear bomb within 10 years?
Created by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 05:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that American nuclear physicist Leonardo Mascheroni has attempted to get Congress to fund his idea of using hydrogen fluoride lasers to generate nuclear fusion? Stonemason89 (talk) 05:57, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that American nuclear physicist Leonardo Mascheroni was fired from Los Alamos in 1987 over suspicions that he was a spy for Argentina, although no evidence was found by the FBI?
the main proposal is dubious in not presenting the explicit US disclaimer that Venezuela had nothing to do with it. ALT1 is kinda boring. Hence ALT2. Rd232 17:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Stand of the Swiss Guard
- ... that the Stand of the Swiss Guard enabled the Pope to escape during the 1527 sack of Rome?
ALT1 ... that during the 1527 sacking of Rome, the the Swiss Guards sacrificed themselves to protect the Pope's retreat?
DCI2026 (talk) 03:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
1958 Pakistani coup d'état
- ... that the 1958 Pakistani coup d'état led by Gen. Ayub Khan was validated by the Supreme Court of Pakistan under the "doctrine of necessity"?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 03:30, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Peligroso Amor
- ... that "Peligroso Amor" was the first number-one song for Chilean performer Myriam Hernández in the United States?
Created by Jaespinoza (talk) 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 17
Stand Up (Scribe song), Not Many, List of number-one singles from the 2000s (New Zealand)
- ... that Scribe's single "Stand Up"/"Not Many" was the number-one single in New Zealand for twelve weeks?
Created by Adabow (talk). Self nom at 23:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- NOTE:List of number-one singles from the 2000s (New Zealand) was 5x expanded on 17 September, while Not Many and Stand Up (Scribe song) were created on 19 September.
Harrisburg, Utah
- ... that Harrisburg, now a ghost town in Utah, was named after an early resident named Moses, and most of its residents left by 1895 due to grasshopper plagues and floods?
Created by The Utahraptor (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Lobéké National Park
- ... that Lobéké National Park is the most important site to date for the Ja River Scrub-warbler species anywhere in Cameroon or Gabon?
5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 21:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Minuscule 482
- ... that Minuscule 482 (pictured) was written by inaccurate copyist?
5x expanded by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 12:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Manny Martin
- ... that former American football player Manny Martin made the Buffalo Bills team in 1996, despite being considered "the longest of long shots"?
- ALT1:... that former American football player Manny Martin formerly played for the Houston Oilers and Ottawa Rough Riders before joining the Buffalo Bills in 1996?
- ALT2:... that former American football player Manny Martin is currently a high school football coach?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 02:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Grilled Cheesus
- ... that Glee co-creator Ryan Murphy predicts that the upcoming episode "Grilled Cheesus" will be the "most controversial episode of the series to date"?
Created by Yvesnimmo (talk). Nominated by Secret Saturdays (talk) at 01:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Sanok Castle
- ... that the Sanok Castle (pictured) was the seat of Isabella Jagiellon, queen of Hungary after her escape from Transylvania?
Created by BurgererSF (talk) 16:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC). Self nom at 16:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 21:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Mickey Mangham
- ... that Mickey Mangham, a walk-on player from Maryland, scored the only touchdown in the 1959 Sugar Bowl to secure a national championship for the undefeated 1958 LSU Tigers football team?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 06:27, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 21:58, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
W. Scott Wilkinson
- ... that former Louisiana State Rep. W. Scott Wilkinson of Shreveport argued in the 1950s for states rights regarding tidelands oil revenues and school desegregation?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:51, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
HNoMS Mjølner (1868)
- ... that after the Norwegian monitor Mjølner ran aground in 1869 the court of inquiry found the ship's commander and the pilot liable for the repairs, but the parliament cancelled the debt two years later?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 00:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- The hook, at 228 characters, is over the 200 limit. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:50, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Shortened, but I'm mildly concerned that people won't be able to figure out which parliament.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:23, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Chicken Hawk: Men Who Love Boys
- ... that the 1994 documentary, Chicken Hawk: Men Who Love Boys, helped popularize the pedophile group NAMBLA?
Created by Lionelt (talk). Self nom at 00:37, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- everything but the image checks out. why is a titlecard from a film CC, a free license? — Rlevse • Talk • 12:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Rlevse asked me to weigh in: I realize the CC license is from the source at archive.org, but it's from the "Community Video" section, where anyone can upload files. Is there somewhere we can confirm this was indeed uploaded/licensed by NAMBLA and is not an archive.org version of Flickr washing? Эlcobbola talk 13:34, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Going to change licensing to fair use (just to be on the safe side) and remove the title screen from the DYK nom until this is resolved.Lionel (talk) 23:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Reginald Pinney
- ... that Major-General Sir Reginald Pinney was the subject of Siegfried Sassoon's 1917 poem The General, as the "cheery old card" who smiled to his men as they "slogged up to Arras"?
- ALT1:... that Major-General Sir Reginald Pinney was called a "bun-pinching crank" by one of his soldiers, after he refused to issue his division with a ration of rum?
Created by Shimgray (talk). Self nom at 00:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... Major-General Sir Reginald Pinney was the "cheery old card" of a Siegfried Sassoon poem, but a "bun-pinching crank" according to one disgruntled NCO? Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length, style are OK, and hook refs accepted agf Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2 has "was" twice. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 14:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC) fixed Victuallers (talk) 18:55, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm tempted to go with the first rather than an amalgam of the two - the poem's the hook, and "cheery old card" is the direct reference to Pinney, but it probably needs "slogged up to Arras" to identify the poem for most readers; it's well known, but not usually by the title. YMMV! (I've added an image, as well. PD.) Shimgray | talk | 14:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Bully Creek (Malheur River)
- ... that an irrigation dam failed on Bully Creek in 1925, flooding the city of Vale, Oregon with 3 feet (1 m) of water and causing $500,000 in damage?
Created by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 23:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Rawalpindi conspiracy
- ... that the Rawalpindi conspiracy was the first first coup attempt in Pakistani history and involved poet Faiz Ahmed Faiz?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 22:08, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Francis Land House
- ... that the National Historic Place plantation-era museum Francis Land House has a Georgian style exterior but a Federal style interior?
Created/expanded by Rlevse (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Other hooks possible. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:44, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
James Davidson (Kentucky)
- ... that James Davidson was one of the first people to report the presence of the notorious outlaws, the Harpe brothers, in the state of Kentucky?
Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 20:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Samuel South
- ... that, at age 12, Samuel South and another youth were sent by the women of Fort Boonesborough to call for help in defending the fort, touching off the Battle of Little Mountain?
Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- New enough, long enough, referenced enough, hook is interesting and appropriately referenced, and offline reference AGF. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Chris Clarke (missionary)
- ... that the Southern Baptist missionary Chris Clarke carries the gospel to equestrian events, mostly in his home state of Kentucky?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Nominated by Billy Hathorn (talk) at 19:08, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
White Stag (clothing)
- ... that the Wal-Mart brand of women's clothing White Stag was originally a company that manufactured downhill skiing apparel in Portland, Oregon in the 1930s?
Created by Esprqii (talk). Nominated by Esprqii (talk) at 18:57, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Al LaMacchia
- ... that as a Major League Baseball scout for decades, Al LaMacchia wouldn't use computers, radar guns or stop watches as scouting tools, saying "I trust my eyes... Been good so far"?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:39, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
The Color of Crime
- ... that in The Color of Crime, Katheryn Russell-Brown defines a racial hoax as occurring when someone fabricates a crime and blames it on another person because of their race or when an actual crime has been committed and the perpetrator falsely blames someone because of their race?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hook is 280 characters, way over the limit of 200. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that in The Color of Crime, Katheryn Russell-Brown writes that crime and young black men have become synonymous in the American mind, giving rise to the "criminalblackman" stereotype?
- Suggest that this nom and the one for criminal black man be combined into a two-article hook, to help with the backlog. EdChem (talk) 17:06, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Admiralty scaffolding
- ... that in 1940, England was protected by 15,000 miles of scaffold tubing?
Created by Gaius Cornelius (talk). Self nom at 17:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Doesn't meet size requirements. Page has notice questioning notability. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 17:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Are you sure? It seems long enough... --Diego Grez (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Article is over two thousand characters, and there aren't any problem tags of any sort. It's just been moved to mainspace today, so I see nothing wrong with the content. I've not checked the references, so I can't approve this, but it looks fine to me. Nyttend backup (talk) 18:29, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Are you sure? It seems long enough... --Diego Grez (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length, style OK. Book refs accepted agf. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 09:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Rally to Restore Sanity
- ... that Jon Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity is also billed as a "Million Moderate March"?
created User:RockMFR contributors User:AMuseoUser:Shrekums User:Zhmort Self nom at 17 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that Jon Stewart's Rally to Restore Sanity will go head-to-head with Stephen Colbert's March to Keep Fear Alive?
Darwin's bark spider
- ... that Darwin's bark spider makes the largest known spider web, spanning distance of up to 25 metres, using the toughest known biomaterial?
- Comment: I will add a picture from the PLoS paper in a couple of days once I'm at a computer that can crop them.
Created by Steamroller Assault (talk), Smartse (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 15:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
John Logan (pioneer)
- ... that John Logan, the first treasurer of the U.S. state of Kentucky, at times had to take out personal loans in order to pay the state's obligations?
Created by Acdixon (talk). Self nom at 14:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Godwin-Knowles House
- ... that the Godwin-Knowles House was built as a home for an industrialiast in East Liverpool, Ohio, but was later converted into a Masonic lodge?
Created by Nyttend (talk), Doncram (talk). Nominated by Nyttend (talk) at 14:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sourcing: the industrialist bit comes from the second citation to source #2 (first sentence, second paragraph), while the Masonic bit comes from the final citation to the same source (second sentence, final paragraph). Nyttend (talk) 14:48, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
De Garmo Jones
- ... that Detroit mayor De Garmo Jones was eulogized as "a sort of western Vanderbilt, with a great big head"?
Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 14:09, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Dulit Frogmouth
- ... that the Dulit Frogmouth forms a superspecies with the Large Frogmouth?
5x expanded by Maias (talk). Self nom at 13:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Looks OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 23:58, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Crivina Power Station
- ... that the 990 MW Crivina Power Station was the first oil shale power station in Romania and was built at a cost of US$1 billion?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 12:06, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Although foreign language refs are acceptable, an english lang. ref is preferable, if available, at least for the hook Shadygrove2007 (talk)
- This is the first time i hear about this. And if there is no english ref available? BineMai 16:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Racial hoax
- ... that the case of Charles Stuart, a white man who murdered his wife and pretended that a black man did it, is often cited as an example of a racial hoax?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 11:23, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
ORP Gryf (1944)
- ... that the Polish Navy ship Gryf (pictured) was converted from a cargo ship to a training and hospital ship in 152 days during 1951?
Created/expanded by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 07:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Kendall Island Migratory Bird Sanctuary
- ... that the Kendall Island Migratory Bird Sanctuary in Canada's Northwest Territories is a traditional Inuvialuit whaling site?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:11, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Robert Rompre
- ... that Robert Rompre was drafted by the Marines but was allowed to play for the U.S. men's ice hockey team at the 1952 Winter Olympics where he set a record by scoring four goals in a single game?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Thomas Riggs, Jr.
- ... that under the leadership of Governor Thomas Riggs, Jr., Alaska Territory was a leader in the sale of both war savings stamps and Liberty Bonds?
- ALT1:... that Alaska Territorial Governor Thomas Riggs, Jr. led the team which surveyed the Alaskan-Canadaian border from the Pacific to Arctic Ocean?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Samuel Thomas Hauser
- ... that American Industrialist Samuel T. Hauser (pictured) lobbied for creation of Yellowstone National Park after he prospected along the Yellowstone River?
- ALT1:... that in order to spend more time with his business interests, Montana Territorial Governor Samuel T. Hauser (pictured) delegated most of his duties to his personal secretary?
5x expanded by Allen3 (talk). Self nom at 00:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 16
Franklin D. Roosevelt Four Freedoms Park
- ... that Four Freedoms Park is being built from plans found in the architect's pocket when he died of a heart attack?
Created by DVD R W (talk), AMuseo (talk). Nominated by AMuseo (talk) at 19:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
H. R. Stevens House
- ... that the H. R. Stevens House (pictured) in New City, New York, shows the convergence of Dutch and English building traditions?
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 06:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Unforgiven (2001)
- ... that a match at the World Wrestling Federation's Unforgiven (2001) event resulted from the destruction of a mop?
Created by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 16:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Riegeldale Tavern
- ... that Riegeldale Tavern was opened by an owner of a mill?
Created by Cbank00 (talk). Nominated by Bejinhan (talk) at 13:59, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- - ready. Dincher (talk) 22:02, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Meyrick Helmet
- ... that the Meyrick Helmet combines the shape of a Roman auxiliary helmet with Celtic La Tène style decoration?
Created by BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Micky Flanagan
- ... that comedian Micky Flanagan's first job was packing fish at Billingsgate Fish Market?
Created by January (talk). Self nom at 19:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Xerochrysum bracteatum
- ... that golden-flowered Australian native daisy Xerochrysum bracteatum was developed into a wide variety of colours in Arnstadt, Germany in the 1850s?
5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 14:17, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Bideford Bay
- ... that the coastline of Bideford Bay (pictured) incorporates both 200-foot high cliffs and the largest dune system in England?
Created by Geopersona (talk). Nominated by Ghmyrtle (talk) at 13:41, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
SMS Preussen (1903)
- ... that a 63 m (207 ft) length of hull of the German battleship Preussen, a veteran of World War I, was used as a torpedo target before being bombed and sunk by Allied bombers during World War II?
5x expanded by Parsecboy (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Princess Marie Elisabeth of Saxe-Meiningen
- ... that at the 1878 wedding of her brother, Princess Marie Elisabeth of Saxe-Meiningen (pictured) composed a piece of music specially meant for the occasion?
Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 21:22, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that in 1892 Princess Marie Elisabeth of Saxe-Meiningen (pictured) composed a Romanze in F major for clarinet and piano which had been influenced by the teachings of Johannes Brahms?
West Baden Springs Hotel
- ... that the domed atrium of Indiana's West Baden Springs Hotel was the largest free-spanning dome in the United States for over 50 years and the world from 1902-1913?
5x expanded by User (talk). Self nom at 20:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Nice work. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 02:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Descartes Highlands
- ... that glass discovered in craters at the Descartes Highlands, the landing site of Apollo 16 on the Moon, was described as having the appearance of dried mud by mission commander John Young?
Created by Tyrol5 (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm not lovin' it
- ... that a TV ad I'm not lovin' it has a woman grieving over a dead man holding a half-eaten burger as a narrator says "High cholesterol, high blood pressure, heart attacks. Tonight, make it vegetarian"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Trochodendron drachuckii
- ... that the extinct species Trochodendron drachuckii is known from a single Eocene fossil found near Cache Creek, British Columbia?
Created by Kevmin (talk). Self nom at 19:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Looks good for me. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:28, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
cheiralgia paresthetica
- ... that clinical studies of cheiralgia paresthetica resulting from handcuffing are hampered by the high proportion of inebriated subjects?
Created by Mangoe (talk). Self nom at 18:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Romsilva
- ... that Romsilva owns and manages 4,000,000 hectares (9,900,000 acres) of forests which represents 65% of all forests in Romania?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 18:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
James E. Winner Jr.
- ... that James E. Winner Jr. created The Club (pictured in use), an anti-theft device for cars that had sold 14 million units by 1994 with the slogan "If you can't steer it, you can't steal it"?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Would be a great hook for The Club article, but as it stands the actual DYK article reference to James E. Winner Jr. is removable Jebus989 10:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Geastrum leptospermum, Geastrum jurei, Geastrum quadrifidum, Geastrum welwitschii
- ... that Geastrum leptospermum, G. jurei, G. welwitschii and G. quadrifidum (pictured) are species of earthstar fungi that elevate their spore sacs?
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Varnette Honeywood
- ... that art by Varnette Honeywood showing African American life were included in the Huxtable living room on the set of The Cosby Show after Bill Cosby and his wife first saw her work on greeting cards?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
1973 shooting in South Jamaica, Queens
- ... that Thomas Shea was the first New York city policeman ever to be tried for murder on duty due to his role in the 1973 shooting in South Jamaica, Queens?
Created by e2eamon (talk). Self nom at 14:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- alt 1 ... that Clifford Glover was, at the time of the 1973 shooting in South Jamaica, Queens, the youngest person ever killed by an on duty New York city policeman?
Don Randi
- ... that pianist and session musician Don Randi claims to have played on over three hundred hit records?
Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 13:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Warden Head Light
- ... that Warden Head Light, a lighthouse near Ulladulla, New South Wales, Australia, was relocated in 1889 to its current location?
- ALT1:... that Warden Head Light, a lighthouse near Ulladulla, New South Wales, Australia, was constructed in 1873 on Ulladulla Harbour Breakwater and relocated to its current location in 1889?
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 13:20, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Rewa Prasad Dwivedi
- ... that Rewa Prasad Dwivedi's Sanskrit epic poem Svatantrya-sambhavam, portraying the Indian national freedom movement, won a Sahitya Akademi Award in 1991?
Created by Shreevatsa (talk). Self nom at 13:07, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 (trivial variation): ... that Rewa Prasad Dwivedi won a Sahitya Akademi Award in 1991 for his Sanskrit epic poem Svatantrya-sambhavam that portrays the Indian national freedom movement?}} Shreevatsa (talk) 19:59, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 00:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Short-tail stingray
- ... that the short-tail stingray (pictured) is the largest stingray species in the world?
5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 07:01, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- looks good E♴ (talk) 14:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Bob Kinney
- ... that in his three total professional basketball seasons, Bob Kinney played in the BAA, NBA and NPBL?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good hook, verified in article, ~1700 chars Jebus989 10:58, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
U.S. Route 2 in Michigan
- ... that a new section of U.S. Highway 2 in Michigan was detoured around the Cut River Bridge (pictured) when the latter was delayed due to World War II?
13.7x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Nominated by Imzadi1979 (talk) at 02:46, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 15
List of breastwork monitors of the Royal Navy
- ... that the British breastwork monitors designed by Sir Edward Reed, were the direct ancestors of the pre-dreadnought battleship and the dreadnought?
Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 22:56, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Julia Pirie
- ... that Julia Pirie, longtime personal secretary to British Communist Party head John Gollan, was actually a British spy?
Created by Budhen (talk), Herostratus (talk). Nominated by Herostratus (talk) at 17:20, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Waterloo Helmet
- ... that the Waterloo Helmet (pictured), dredged from the River Thames in 1868, is the only Iron Age helmet with horns ever to have been found in Europe?
Created by BabelStone (talk). Nominated by BabelStone (talk) at 23:48, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Size and date OK. Refs check out. Fascinating, a nice little article. Simon Burchell (talk) 18:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Koilamasuchus
- ... that the recently described genus Koilamasuchus from the Early Triassic of Argentina is the best-known early archosauriform in South America?
Created by Smokeybjb (talk). Nominated by Smokeybjb (talk) at 18:59, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Es wartet alles auf dich, BWV 187
- ... that Bach used four movements of his church cantata Es wartet alles auf dich, BWV 187 for his Missa in G minor, BWV 235?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:23, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Maya stelae
- ... that at some Maya cities, the earliest production of stone stelae coincided with the establishment of dynastic rule?
Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hook comes from the 1st paragraph in the Early Classic section. Simon Burchell (talk) 22:43, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date and length verified, AGF for offline hook fact. Well referenced and awesome article, great job! jonkerz♠ 07:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! Simon Burchell (talk) 09:07, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Fehlandt Lentini
- ... that in 2006, professional baseball player Fehlandt Lentini broke the Northern League's single-season triples record with 13, one more than the mark set during the previous year?
Created by Halvorsen brian (talk). Self nom at 20:46, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Robert Porch
- ... that Somerset cricketer Robert Porch was the first cousin of Winston Churchill's stepfather and first cousin once removed of political writer Walter Bagehot?
Created by Johnlp (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Southern Wall
- ... that the Southern Wall (pictured) of the Temple Mount still contains the steps that Jesus climbed?
5x expand by User:AMuseo (User talk:AMuseo). Self nom at 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Shouldn't that be 'reputedly' climbed? The words 'must have' and might have' are used in the article: is there any serious historical evidence that he actually climbed these? It's not the certainty you claim. (And this is leaving aside the whole can of worms of 'did Jesus actually exist?' ...) 81.156.126.8 (talk) 09:15, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Please read the sources in the article, which are extremely clear. A major archaeologist states that "On his way in and out of the Temple, Jesus must have walked here." The reason is that Jesus was there on major festival days. It was like going to the cathedral on Easter or Christmas is today. You don't get out of your car, walk towards the cathedral and then say, I think I'll nip around back and enter through that little door in the back of the sacristy. You go in the great doors. As Jesus must have entered the Temple via the great pilgrim road and doors in the Southern Wall. Literally hundreds of thousands of pilgrims used those doors three times a year on the great festivals in Jesus's day. They came from throughout the Mediterranean. And form the Galilee. As a boy, Jesus went through these doors on Passover. And in Matthew 12 where Jesus is a teacher, riding a donkey, with thousands of people singing hosannah and paving the road with palm branches as he enters the city and enters the Temple with crowds and people proclaiming ""This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee." He had to be going in through the great gates. You can't have a scene like that and enter through a side door. But as I said, please look at the sources in the article.AMuseo (talk) 12:12, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Please don't patronise me: I did read the sources. The steps look very 'fresh' for 2,000+ year old masonry. Have they been rebuilt? Are these the original steps? It certainly doesn't appear so from the photograph: compare the freshness of the edge of the steps with the masonry in the walls. The steps would have got the greatest amount of wear, and you would expect 'dishing' in the surface, same as you get in masonry that has had a lot of traffic. The wear isn't there. They are almost certainly not the original steps, not with that amount (or lack of) wear. Just sayin'. 81.156.126.8 (talk) 12:55, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- There are two sets of steps. Exterior steps and steps inside the retaining wall of the Temple Mount. The steps inside the retaining wall are certainly Herodian and we can be certain the at Jesus walked up them. I have altered the article to make the identity of the intact, Herodian "Jesus" steps clear. As I had it before, the external and internal steps were conflated. The flight of steps in the photo are external. A public domain photo of the internal steps would be nice. Do you know of one?AMuseo (talk) 13:19, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- This hook or discussion shouldn't venture into WP:OR. No matter how obvious it may seem that Jesus walked up the steps or what the condition of the steps appears to be in, it has to be back up by reliable sources. I suggest discussing issues about the age and condition of the steps on the article talk page whether there are other suggestions for article improvement now. If the hook can be legitimately refuted then the nomination should be withdrawn. I cannot see the one offline reference, so see the ALT below. It is a big claim for a hook and an offline reference is hard to use solely to verify it.--NortyNort (Holla) 13:29, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Archeologist Meir Ben-Dov, "On his way in and out of the Temple, Jesus must have walked here." Yes. That's why I used an online source.AMuseo (talk) 13:57, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- I have put up a second photo, making the original and repaired steps visible.AMuseo (talk) 13:32, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that the Southern Wall (pictured) of the Temple Mount still contains the steps that Jesus "must have walked" on?
Bedbug bite
- ... that due partly to globalization bedbug bites have increased dramatically in the developed world over the last 20 or so years?
Created/expanded by Jmh649 (talk). Nominated by Jmh649 (talk) at 10:19, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Expanded and split off the health section of bedbugs as originally seen here to create an article specifically dealing with the health effects of this insect. The original page bedbugs received 720,106 page views in Aug 2010.--Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 10:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Nearly all the content was removed from bedbug and has only been expanded a small amount. The information in bedbug had been there for months so I can't see how this qualifies for DYK, since very little new content has been created. Smartse (talk) 15:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Were the changes made on the bedbug page on Sept 15th before the move noted? --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- I already checked, the diff you've linked shows an increase from 16648 characters > 17087 characters which is clearly not a 5x expansion. Smartse (talk) 01:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Ah did not realize it was based on character count. Thus I will withdraw this nomination.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:16, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- I already checked, the diff you've linked shows an increase from 16648 characters > 17087 characters which is clearly not a 5x expansion. Smartse (talk) 01:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Were the changes made on the bedbug page on Sept 15th before the move noted? --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Nearly all the content was removed from bedbug and has only been expanded a small amount. The information in bedbug had been there for months so I can't see how this qualifies for DYK, since very little new content has been created. Smartse (talk) 15:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Although the bed bug page lists the common name as either "bed bug" or "bedbug," it is actually only "bed bug" as listed in the Entomological Society of America's Listing of Common Names of Arthropods. Just for that reason alone I would say not to use this. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 20:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Check out google scholar and you see that in fact both spellings are used. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 20:48, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think the Entomological Society of America has any authority whatsoever over the worldwide usage of English words :) — Toдor Boжinov — 19:28, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Life's Too Short
- ... that following The Office and Extras, the next sitcom from Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant is Life's Too Short, starring Warwick Davis (pictured) and about the life of a showbiz dwarf?
Created by Stronach (talk). Self nom at 07:53, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
New Hempstead Presbyterian Church
- ... that New York's New Hempstead Presbyterian Church (current building, pictured) was the first established in the colony west of the Hudson River by a congregation of English descent?
- ALT1:... that New Hempstead Presbyterian Church (pictured) is the second oldest congregation in Rockland County, New York?
- ALT2:... that New Hempstead Presbyterian Church (pictured) is the oldest extant Federal style church in Rockland County, New York?
- Comment: Fivefold text expansion
5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 07:32, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Richard Funkhouser
- ... that Richard Funkhouser, a geologist and former U.S. Ambassador to Gabon stated, "Oil men tend to divide government people as either "for them" or "against them"..."?
Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 04:59, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Boeing Plant 2
- ... that during World War II, Boeing's Plant 2 was camouflaged with houses made of plywood, cloth as well as fake streets?
Created by Ktr101 (talk). Nominated by Ktr101 (talk) at 04:54, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified, that hook is right up my street. I can't find any articles that discuss that type of camouflage, but know it was extremely widespread in WW2, can anyone else find a better link than camouflage to have in the hook? Smartse (talk) 10:21, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Graham Hawkes
- ... that Graham Hawkes designed 70% of manned submersibles in the 1980s-1990s?
Created by 76.66.200.95 (talk). Nominated by Bejinhan (talk) at 04:13, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Changed submarine for submersible in the hook and the article lead, as that's what the ref says and the two are not equivalent. The hook is impressive but not very eyecatching, you could probably come up with a more interesting hook, given the self-aiming gun and James Bond link and general deep-diving madness. Le Deluge (talk) 23:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Bill Quackenbush
- ... that Hockey Hall of Famer Bill Quackenbush was promptly traded after winning the Lady Byng Trophy for gentlemanly conduct because his manager felt any player who won it didn't belong on his team?
5x expanded by Leech44 (talk). Nominated by Leech44 (talk) at 01:57, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, 5X expansion and sourcing all check out. One suggestion to Leech 44, however. The Jack Adams comment is priceless. You might be able to come up with an even catchier hook built around that quote. The present hook is fine and is approved. Just a suggestion that might draw even more hits to the article. Cbl62 (talk) 03:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe something along these lines:
- alt 1 ... that Hockey Hall of Famer Bill Quackenbush was promptly traded after winning the Lady Byng Trophy for gentlemanly conduct because his manager felt any player who won it didn't belong on his team? Cbl62 (talk) 03:16, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's a very good suggestion, it does seem to be a more interesting hook. I have gone ahead and made the change. Thanks. --Mo Rock...Monstrous (talk) 13:51, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- This hook was moved to Prep 1 by Leech44. Because one should not promote one's own hooks, as well as the fact that it was moved to the wrong place (as the tenth hook, ahead of the lead hook) and without the DYKmake, I've returned it here. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- oops. Sorry first time I'm contributing to DYK, guess I misunderstood the procedure.--Mo Rock...Monstrous (talk) 20:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- This hook was moved to Prep 1 by Leech44. Because one should not promote one's own hooks, as well as the fact that it was moved to the wrong place (as the tenth hook, ahead of the lead hook) and without the DYKmake, I've returned it here. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
The Chainbearer
- ... that in The Chainbearer James Fenimore Cooper presents a very strong critique of 19th-century American expansionism and concepts of land ownership?
Created by Sadads (talk). Self nomination at 00:00, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Cross of All Nations
- ... that the 73.8 metres (242 ft) tall Cross of All Nations located near the Lebanese town of Baskinta is the largest lit cross in the world?
Created by Eli+. Self nom at 21:29, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
James Billington (hangman)
- ... that English hangman James Billington's decision to use a longer drop than usual when executing Charles Thomas Wooldridge, immortalised as "C.T.W" in Oscar Wilde's The Ballad of Reading Gaol, resulted in Wooldridge's neck being stretched by eleven inches?
Created by Malleus Fatuorum (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Chirocephalus diaphanus
- ... that Chirocephalus diaphanus is the only species of fairy shrimp to occur in Great Britain?
Created by Stemonitis (talk). Self nom at 21:01, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Smartse (talk) 15:30, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Criminal black man
- ... that Linda G. Tucker wrote that portrayals of criminal black men perpetuate the view that "a nigger is not a person so much as a form of behaviour"?
Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 20:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Suggestion. Shouldn't this really be merged into Stereotypes of African Americans? Just a thought. Cbl62 (talk) 03:25, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- I believe it notable enough to stand on its own. Christopher Connor (talk) 14:18, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest that this nom and the one for The Color of Crime be combined into a two-article hook, to help with the backlog. EdChem (talk) 17:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I resist this suggestion. I like this hook just as it is and they refer to different things, one a book, the other a stereotype. Christopher Connor (talk) 18:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Mafeking Mooch
- ... the Mafeking Mooch was an affected style of walking performed by some British men to convey the impression they had suffered an injury during the celebrated Siege of Mafeking?
Created by Linda Peston (talk). Nominated by De728631 (talk) at 20:34, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Poorly cited - only two citations from one source. The main paragraph describing the "mooch" is not cited at all. Citation used at end of last paragraph makes it unclear how much of paragraph uses that for a citation. Aren't there any other references that also could be used? I modified (shortened) hook. Should time period also be added to hook? Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 00:29, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I had first added the time period to the hook but that made it too long. And if two references from a reliable source are insufficient for an article of that length it only confirms my point of view that inline referencing is really overrated on WP. De728631 (talk) 18:11, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- The time period is familiar in the UK and South Africa and it would certainly count as standard "global" general knowledge compared to the background knowledge (usually US-centric) required for many DYKs... You could drop the "some British men" though. Le Deluge (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I had first added the time period to the hook but that made it too long. And if two references from a reliable source are insufficient for an article of that length it only confirms my point of view that inline referencing is really overrated on WP. De728631 (talk) 18:11, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Colonia Juárez (Mexico City)
- ... that Colonia Juárez in Mexico City is home to a Korean community called "Little Seoul"?
5x expanded by Thelmadatter (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Hermann Gollancz
- ... that Hermann Gollancz became the first British rabbi to receive a knighthood when the honour was bestowed on him by King George V in 1923?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:53, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. I changed the spelling to "honour" because of the British nature of the hook. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 09:01, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Orius insidiosus
- ... that the predatory insect Orius insidiosus (pictured), is mass-reared for use in the biological control of thrips?
Created by Anna Frodesiak (talk). Nominated by Anna Frodesiak (talk) at 19:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT1:can suck out the entire contents of an elephant, leaving behind a huge, grey, leather bag?
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:54, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Reviewed text. Editor started new article and took it to almost 6K bytes. Looks fine. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 03:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Seven Presidents Park
- ... that Seven Presidents Park in Long Branch, New Jersey was the site of the Buffalo Bill Wild West Show, whose performers included Buffalo Bill Cody, Annie Oakley and Chief Sitting Bull?
Created by La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk). Self nom at 16:46, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article is a stub of a few hundred characters that elaborates lightly on the hook, but falls well short of the DYK minimum. I'm sure there's more material out there, but additional material and sources must be added and the article expanded significantly to meet DYK standards. Alansohn (talk) 19:56, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've expanded the article. --La comadreja formerly AFriedman RESEARCH (talk) 22:35, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article and hook length and sourcing are all fine now. Note that I've added a source about the show to the article. Alansohn (talk) 14:21, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Clavariadelphus ligula
- ... that the club fungus Clavariadelphus ligula (pictured) is commonly known as the strap coral?
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 16:46, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Smartse (talk) 15:39, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Dockum Drug Store sit-in
- ... that the Dockum Drug Store sit-in that led to desegregation of lunch counters in Wichita, Kansas started in July 1958, 18 months before the more widely publicized Greensboro sit-ins?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:46, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Very interesting incident and good hook. Everything checks out. Cbl62 (talk) 19:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Fortunato Chelleri
- ... that music of the Baroque composer Fortunato Chelleri on Don Quixote was recorded by organist Kalevi Kiviniemi on the Las Piñas Bamboo Organ?
5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 15:11, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- The hook and expansion is verified. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 20:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Willow Creek (Columbia River)
- ... that one-third of the structures in Heppner were swept away by Willow Creek in a flash flood on June 14, 1903 (pictured), killing 247 people in the "most deadly natural disaster in Oregon's recorded history"?
Created by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 15:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date check out, and this is a nice article. However, the source states: "The entire town was swept away in just a few short minutes," and "one-third of the towns' structures were wiped out." I suggest the article and hook be modified to say "that one-third of the structures in Heppner, Oregon were wiped out by ...." Cbl62 (talk) 19:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Changed, thanks! LittleMountain5 22:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Everything now checks out. Cbl62 (talk) 02:46, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Haji Mohammad Danesh
- ... that Communist leader Haji Mohammad Danesh, a leader in the Tebhaga movement, served as vice-president and general secretary of the National Awami Party?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 14:47, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Aircraft industry of Russia
- ... that Aircraft industry of Russia is one of the backbones of the country's economy, employing around 355,300 people?
Created by Offliner (talk). Self nom at 14:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- The sources for the hook are the following: "backbone" - ; "355,300 people" - (p.16) Offliner (talk) 14:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
linaclotide
- ... that linaclotide has shown promise in clinical trials as a treatment for irritable bowel syndrome with constipation, a condition that may affect as many as 10 million Americans?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:55, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- 'shown promise' is perhaps a bit weasely Jebus989 09:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
All Souls Church, Halifax
- ... that the architect Sir George Gilbert Scott considered All Souls, Halifax, West Yorkshire (pictured), now redundant, to be his finest church?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:53, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Everything look good. -France3470 (talk) 18:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
1926 Chatham Cup
- ... that three of the four semi-final teams in New Zealand's 1926 Chatham Cup knockout soccer competition represented mental hospitals?
5x expanded by Grutness (talk). Self nom at 10:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Moto Racer World Tour
- ... that IGN's Doug Perry felt that Moto Racer World Tour was one of the five best motorcycle racing video games for the PlayStation?
Created by Nomader (talk). Self nom at 05:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
El Niágara en Bicicleta
- ... that the Cuban idiom, El Niágara en Bicicleta, is used to describe a situation that is difficult to overcome?
Created by Magiciandude (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
The Child's Eye
- ... that The Child's Eye is the first 3-D Hong Kong horror film and the first Hong Kong production to be entirely shot in 3-D and in high definition?
Created by Andrzejbanas (talk). Nominated by Andrzejbanas (talk) at 04:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- The fact needs an inline citation in the article lead Jebus989 09:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Um. It's the second sentence in the "Production" section! Andrzejbanas (talk) 16:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I see, but the same exact sentence is replicated in the lead without the citation. It should either be removed or at least paraphrased in the lead section rather than having two identical sentences in the same article - one sourced and one not Jebus989 17:18, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see how that's a big problem, but I've changed the lead slightly either way. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's not a big problem, just a query. To be picky once more, the hook could be condensed down to:
- ... that The Child's Eye is the first Hong Kong horror film to be entirely shot in 3-D and high definition?
- This avoids saying '3-D' and 'Hong Kong' twice and still gets all the information across, just a suggestion Jebus989 09:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. That works for me. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's not a big problem, just a query. To be picky once more, the hook could be condensed down to:
M-66 (Michigan highway)
- ... that M-66 is the only state highway that runs the length of the Lower Peninsula of Michigan?
- Comment: 5.15x expansion from sandbox
5x expanded by Imzadi1979 (talk). Nominated by Imzadi1979 (talk) at 03:52, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Charles McIntosh (mycologist)
- ... that Scottish postman and mycologist Charles McIntosh was very likely the physical model for Mr. McGregor (illustrated) in Beatrix Potter's The Tale of Peter Rabbit?
Created by Susanne2009NYC (talk). Nominated by Susanne2009NYC (talk) at 03:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Not the most reliable ref, but I'll accept it based on the mention here. ℳono feedback 03:46, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Older nominations
Articles created/expanded on September 14
Fortrose Cathedral
- ... that the abbot of Kinloss was a permanent member of the chapter of Fortrose Cathedral, seat of the medieval diocese of Ross?
Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Self nom at 16:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
1990–91 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1990–91 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team Led the Big Ten Conference in three-point field goals made?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 15:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
1993–94 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team & 1994–95 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1993–94 and 1994–95 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team established the Michigan Wolverines men's basketball single-season and single-game steals records, respectively?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 15:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
1995–96 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1995–96 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team had four players drafted in the NBA Draft?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
1997–98 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1997–98 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team is one of only two Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teams to have defeated a number one ranked team?
Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
1991–92 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team & 1992–93 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1991–92 and 1992–93 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teams finishes as national runners-up in the NCAA Men's Division I Basketball Tournament
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
1996–97 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team & 1998–99 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
- ... that the 1996–97 and 1998–99 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball teams led the Big Ten Conference in both three-point field goals and free throw percentage?
5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 13:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
comment whilst it is nice to get an article in the DYK section, it is making a mockery of the process to add similar topics all from the same nom all in one go --Senra (Talk) 13:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Why not combine all six of these articles into one hook? A sextuple-barreled hook would work better than six single hooks on almost identical topics. Stonemason89 (talk) 14:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Eddie Phillips (pinch runner)
- ... that professional baseball player Eddie Phillips never batted or fielded a ball in the major leagues, but scored four runs for the St. Louis Cardinals during their 1953 season?
Created by MusiCitizen (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 07:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Skënder Muço
- ... that Skënder Muço was one of the founders of the first battalion of Antifascist Resistance movement of Balli Kombëtar in Vlorë?--Sulmues 02:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Created by ZjarriRrethues (talk). Nominated by Sulmues (talk) at 02:06, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length and date are all good. Where is the reference to first battallion of Balli Kombëtar coming from? I can't seem to find it in Fischer, p. 191. Always remember to include a footnote directly after the hook fact sentence! :) Also, I think the hook should be tweaked to exclude Lepenica, he's not directly relevant and is a potential red link... Todor→Bozhinov 13:01, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Penrith Hoard
- ... that the parts of the Penrith Hoard (pictured) were found in the "Silver Field" in 1785 and in 1989 in northern England?
Created by Johnbod (talk), Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 21:49, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1... that the discovery of the Penrith Hoard of Viking silver brooches (pictured) stretched over 200 years, from 1785 to 1989?
- anonther way of looking at it; this could be a double with Celtic brooch, but I think I'd like to do that by itself. Johnbod (talk) 22:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Size, date and hooks all ok. Note that your note 2 is returning a "page not found" error. Simon Burchell (talk) 20:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note 2 url fixed now. BabelStone (talk) 11:52, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Solomon Goldstein
- ... that while based in Switzerland, Bulgarian-born communist Solomon Goldstein befriended Vladimir Lenin and was among the founders of the Swiss Communist Party?
Created by Beserks (talk), Cplakidas (talk), Sulmues (talk), and TodorBozhinov (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 14:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Bulgarian-born communist and personal friend of Lenin Solomon Goldstein was the mastermind behind Albania's June Revolution of 1924, headed by Fan S. Noli? Todor→Bozhinov 11:43, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Clive Donner
- ... that What's New Pussycat? was a box office hit for British director Clive Donner, but screenwriter Woody Allen hated the film saying that his original script had been distorted?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:48, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Haidbauer incident
- ... that in the Haidbauer incident of April 1926 the philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein knocked an 11-year-old boy unconscious during class?
Created by SlimVirgin (talk). Self nom at 12:45, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Everything fine. --Pgallert (talk) 13:51, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Joseph Livesey
- ... that temperance campaigner Joseph Livesey said, in his "malt liquor lecture" that "there is more food in a pennyworth of bread than in a gallon of ale"?
Created by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 10:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that temperance campaigner Joseph Livesey, in his will, left a copy of his "malt liquor lecture" to every household in Preston, Lancashire?
Baci
- ... the Laotian national ritual of the baci {pictured) involves tying strings around a person’s wrist to preserve good luck?
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Pink Bull (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:23, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Img added. -- N.V.V. Char . 12:15, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
What.cd
- ... that Microsofts COFEE forensic tool was leaked onto the What.cd BitTorrent tracker in 2009? It was later removed by the site's admins.
Created by Tmorton166 (talk). Self nom at 08:36, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Jet Propulsion Laboratory Science Division
- ... that the JPL Science Division's research areas include studying the nature of the Martian surface, the causes and mitigation of ozone depletion and global warming, the search for life in and the nature and evolution of the universe?
Created by Steve Quinn (talk). Nominated by Fridae'sDoom (talk) at 07:07, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- hook is 232 characters, well past the limit of 200. Got any sources other than the JPL? — Rlevse • Talk • 10:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT 1:
- ... that the JPL Science Division's research areas include studying the nature of Mars' surface, the causes & mitigation of ozone depletion and global warming, the search for life in and the nature & evolution of the universe?
- I don't think so, is that a problem? Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 11:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt 222 chars. Better to have other refs, but won't stop DYK. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:14, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT 2:
- ... that the JPL Science Division's research areas include studying Mars' surface, causes & mitigation of ozone depletion and global warming, search for life in and nature & evolution of the universe?
- Oh ok then, well here's the second alt it's 197 characters (spaces included). Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 06:36, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 ok. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks Rlevse :) —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 07:40, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
John Perry Robinson
- ... that the second Superintendent of the Nelson Province in New Zealand, John Perry Robinson, was first elected because the supporters of the opposition candidate stayed away, as they never expected Robinson to be able to win?
- Comment: I will be adding more content to this article, but it already meets the DYK criteria in its current state.
Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self nom at 03:44, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Article is finished now (just in case anybody was holding back with their review because of my comment above). I'm happy with it. Schwede66 10:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Myoporum acuminatum
- ... that the pointed boobialla can be found in rainforest or wet eucalyptus forest in eastern Australia?
- Comment: Probably better off without an image - I just figured the way-out name might get folks interested. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Created by Casliber (talk), Poyt448 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 02:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that it is 200 years since the first description of a boobialla? Le Deluge (talk) 23:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Rolf Bremmer
- ... that Leiden University's Rolf Bremmer, an expert on Old Frisian language, published an alphabet book explaining Christian concepts such as sin and foreskin?
Created by Drmies (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 02:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Ely and Littleport riots 1816
- ... that on 28 June five men were executed for their part in the Ely and Littleport riots 1816?
- ALT1:... that at the execution of the five Ely and Littleport rioters of 1816, the chaplain, John Griffin, was unofficially given the ropes after the hanging, which he kept; he left a collection to his housekeeper, who sold them as a cure for sore throats?
- ALT2:... that Sarah Hobbs, the only woman to be condemned following the Ely and Littleport riots of 1816, had her sentence commuted to twelve months in Ely prison?
Created by Senra (talk). Self nom at 23:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- comment if you choose ALT1 please give Charles Matthews (talk · contribs) credit too :) --Senra (Talk) 18:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Mizil
- ... that Mizil is the only city or town in Romania to lie on the 45th parallel north?
5x expanded by Biruitorul (talk). Self nom at 23:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion, length, date and hook reference verified. Changed hook wording to "on" instead of "along" to be more accurate, and removed "stub" quality from talk page tag. Todor→Bozhinov 12:27, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Leslie MacMitchell
- ... that the first college undergraduate to win the James E. Sullivan Award as leading U.S. amateur sportsman was athlete Leslie MacMitchell in 1941?
Created by Giants2008 (talk). Nominated by Giants2008 (talk) at 22:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Bishop Dolegiewicz
- ... that Canadian Olympic shot putter Bishop Dolegiewicz admitted to selling steroids in the 1980s but later warned athletes of their health risks as a throwing coach?
Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 22:06, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Dobra Bridge
- ... that three main span girders on Croatia's Dobra Bridge accidentally collapsed into the Dobra River during construction?
Created by Tomobe03 (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Craig Roh
- ... that Craig "Death" Roh adopted a diet of six meals and more than 4,000 calories a day because he considered himself "tiny" at 230 pounds?
Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 21:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- alt 1 ... that Michigan's "hybrid linebacker" Craig "Death" Roh has said, "I love hitting the quarterback. I love it! When I get there it's . . . there's nothing like it"? Cbl62 (talk) 21:56, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- alt 2 ... that "hybrid linebacker" Craig Roh recently told a reporter that the Michigan football team has adopted as its battle cry a Lakota chant that means "it's a great day to die"? Cbl62 (talk) 22:03, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- This guy is a real font of unusual quotes. I like all 3 proposed hooks, and will leave it to others to decide which is the best. Cbl62 (talk) 22:03, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
KOHI
- ... that the radio station KOHI, in Columbia County, Oregon, broadcasts a late-night radio program dealing with paranormal topics?
5x expanded by Stonemason89 (talk). Nominated by Stonemason89 (talk) at 21:52, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
There are way too many DTK submissions involving Michigan athletics —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.244.9.7 (talk) 14:33, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- I have struck the above comment as it's a complete non sequitur. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date and cite check out. --Brian Halvorsen (talk) 22:33, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Only Girl (In The World)
- ... that Barbadian singer Rihanna's new single "Only Girl (In the World)" has been called a "stronger, sexier version of her" 2007 single, "Don't Stop the Music"?
Created by User:L-l-CLK-l-l (talk). Self nom at 21:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Tikal Temple II
- ... that Temple II (pictured), the most thoroughly restored pyramid at the Maya ruins of Tikal in Guatemala, was probably built by king Jasaw Chan K'awiil I to honour his wife, Lady Kalajuun Une' Mo'?
Created by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Richard V. Thomas
- ... that the Wyoming Supreme Court Justice Richard V. Thomas was once the Judge Advocate General at the F.E. Warren Air Force Base in Cheyenne?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:33, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Sugarloaf Point Light
- ... that Sugarloaf Point Light (pictured), near Seal Rocks, New South Wales, Australia, is the first lighthouse designed by James Barnet?
- ALT1:... that Sugarloaf Point Light (pictured), near Seal Rocks, New South Wales, Australia, is one of only two lighthouses in Australia with an external stairway?
Created by Muhandes (talk). Self nom at 18:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Keeper of the Archives
- ... that one Keeper of the Archives at Oxford University in the early 20th century criticised his predecessors' "fatal inability" to "destroy things when they are done with"?
Created by Bencherlite (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Barbara Holland
- ... that Barbara Holland enjoyed smoking cigarettes and drinking scotch and wrote her 2007 book The Joy of Drinking as a protest against what she saw as the rise of broccoli, exercise and Starbucks?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Everything checks out. Nice hook and an interesting lady. Her death of lung cancer does somewhat undermine her advocacy of smoking, though. As the hook is 199 characters long, one possible suggestion would be to strike "American author"; it's apparent from the balance of the hook that she's an author. Cbl62 (talk) 19:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've tweaked the wording, as suggested. Alansohn (talk) 14:23, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- This one is good to go. Cbl62 (talk) 14:59, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
St Gregory's Church, Vale of Lune
- ... that when St Gregory's Church, Vale of Lune, Cumbria, (pictured) was built, the London and North Western Railway sent a scripture reader to the church to minister to the navvies building their Ingleton Branch?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:56, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Gene Case
- ... that advertising executive Gene Case developed the "Thanks. I needed that." face slapping campaign for Mennen's Skin Bracer aftershave and the Dragnet-inspired "tum-ta-tum-tum" for Tums antacid?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 13:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- A couple points, both fixable. First, the hook is 203 characters; I suggest at least deleting the word "American." Maybe also shorten "Mennen's Skin Bracer aftershave" to "Mennen's Skin Bracer" or "Skin Bracer aftershave." Second, the article currently states that "the firm" developed the two ads. However, the NYT obit cited in the article confirms that Case did come up with the ideas himself. So, if you modify the article to reflect Case's personal development of the ads (with in-line cite to the NYT obit), that should fix the issue. Cbl62 (talk) 19:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Removed the word, as suggested. I've modified the article to better match the source and the hook. Alansohn (talk) 14:28, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Everything now checks out. The hook is also supported by the NYT obit. Nice hook. Cbl62 (talk) 15:03, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Crickets as pets
- ... that fighting and singing crickets are stimulated by tickling? new, self-nom, East of Borschov 11:48, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- alt1: ... that fighting crickets are provided with female company before the fight, stimulated with tickling during the fight, and buried in silver coffins after it? could be too long though
- alt2: ... that China and Japan have a long history of keeping Crickets as pets for insect fighting or enjoying their songs? - suggested by Oda Mari (talk) at 06:29, 17 September 2010 (UTC). I removed her nomination, which duplicates this one. - East of Borschov 07:11, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT3 ...that those killed at cricket fights may be given coffins made of silver? (we could probably have a few ALTs in similar vein.) Le Deluge (talk) 23:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just dropping in to say when this popped up on my watchlist it was odd enough for me to want to take a closer look so I think Le Deluge's hook is a very good idea. Nev1 (talk) 23:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
St Mary's Church, Roecliffe
- ... that the font in St Mary's Church, Roecliffe, North Yorkshire, (pictured) came from Holy Trinity Church, Hull, while the vestry door and marble steps came from York Minster?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:38, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:14, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Henry Howard (Detroit), Henry Howard (Michigan)
- ... that Henry Howard was a 19th century banker, lumberman, alderman, and mayor of Detroit, and the unrelated Henry Howard was a 19th century banker, lumberman, alderman, and mayor of nearby Port Huron?
Created by Andrew Jameson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Jameson (talk) at 10:19, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note: This reference disambiguates the two men and supports all facts in hook (except the Port Huron mayorship, which is supported elsewhere in the approprite article). Andrew Jameson (talk) 10:23, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
MV Avrasaya
- ... that the Panamanian ferry Avrasaya was hijacked by pro-Chechen rebels in January 1996, in the Black Sea hostage crisis?
5x expanded by Mjroots (talk). Nominated by Mjroots (talk) at 09:07, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note, credit to my main account please. Mjroots2 (talk) 09:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Edward Nicholas Kendall
- ... that Royal Navy officer Edward Nicholas Kendall discovered Wollaston Land?
Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 05:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 18:08, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Architecture of Albany, New York
- ... that the architecture of Albany, New York currently dates back to 1728, with the Van Ostrande-Radliff House (pictured) being the oldest building in Albany?
Created by UpstateNYer (talk). Self nom at 03:57, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Whip My Hair
- ... that the leak of 9-year old singer Willow Smith's single "Whip My Hair" was covered by Billboard, TIME, and CNN the day of its release, as well as garnering over 100,000 YouTube views.
Created by Candy (talk). Self nom at 02:51, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Fifteenmile Creek (Columbia River)
- ... that Fifteenmile Creek is 54 miles (87 km) long?
Created by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
List of battleships of the Ottoman Empire
- ... that three of the Ottoman Navy's battleships were originally ships of the Imperial German Navy?
Created by White Shadows (talk). Nominated by White Shadows (talk) at 02:37, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 13
Nikolay Bozhov
- ... that even after returning to association football as a professional at age 30, Bulgarian player Nikolay Bozhov has continued to manage his late father's ironmonger's business?
5x expanded by TodorBozhinov (talk), Jordanson (talk). Nominated by TodorBozhinov (talk) at 17:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Bulgarian association football player Nikolay Bozhov started his professional career at age 30 and has six goals in five games in this season's Bulgarian championship? — Toдor Boжinov — 17:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
James Phillippo, Phillippo Baptist Church
- ... that English missionary James Phillippo (pictured) founded Phillippo Baptist Church in Jamaica's Spanish Town in 1827?
- (alt.hook)... that James Phillippo (pictured), founder of Phillippo Baptist Church in Spanish Town, led thousands of people to the reading of the "Proclamation of Freedom" when slavery was formally abolished in Jamaica in 1838?
Created by Peppi35 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:16, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I just started reformatting all the unformatted references on James Phillipo, and am noticing that the text in these references is being reprinted verbatim in the article. Every reference so far is a copyright violation. I suggest that someone edit both these articles thoroughly, and also fix the formatting in the reference sections. Yoninah (talk) 21:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good catch, Yoninah. --PFHLai (talk) 22:34, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Batman rapist
- ... that the serial sex offender Batman rapist has committed at least 17 attacks in Bath since 1991 and is the subject of Britain's longest-running serial rape investigation?
Created by Keristrasza (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 22:16, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Warrior class ironclad
- ... that the Warrior-class ironclads HMS Warrior and HMS Black Prince towed a floating drydock to Bermuda in 1869?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 15:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Hairpin ribozyme
- ... that the hairpin ribozyme is an RNA that can encode genetic information and catalyze biological reactions?
5x expanded by JMBurke1791 (talk). Nominated by Ppgardne (talk) at 09:54, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- The structure section doesn't have any references at the moment and there is a half completed sentence at the end of the first paragraph. Can you see if this can be fixed? Smartse (talk) 10:03, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK. Should be improved now. --Paul (talk) 10:43, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- My understanding is that this should be listed under the date the expansion began (i.e. 13th September) rather than today (17th). Rockpocket 11:51, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oooops. Shall I just copy it there?--Paul (talk) 13:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Moved. —Bruce1ee 15:11, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks! --Paul (talk) 15:28, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Moved. —Bruce1ee 15:11, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oooops. Shall I just copy it there?--Paul (talk) 13:53, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- My understanding is that this should be listed under the date the expansion began (i.e. 13th September) rather than today (17th). Rockpocket 11:51, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Minuscule 788 (Gregory-Aland)
- ... that in Minuscule 788, manuscript of the four Gospels, some passages of text are relocated (Luke 22:43-44 and John 7:53-8:11)?
Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Marc Tessier-Lavigne
- ... that Marc Tessier-Lavigne, chief scientific officer of Genentech, was named as President of Rockefeller University making him the first non-academic to be chosen for the post?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Elizabeth Jenkins (author)
- ... that historian A. L. Rowse said the biography Elizabeth the Great by Elizabeth Jenkins "got nearer to penetrating the secret of the most remarkable woman in history than any other"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 18:13, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Burger's Daughter
- ... that Nadine Gordimer says her novel Burger's Daughter was "a coded homage" to Bram Fischer, Nelson Mandela's treason trial defence lawyer?
- ALT1:... that after Nelson Mandela read a smuggled copy of Nadine Gordimer's novel Burger's Daughter while in prison, he requested a meeting with her?
5x expanded by Bruce1ee (talk). Self nom at 14:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook refs verified. Either hook is excellent; I tweaked the wording in the first. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
John Cassell
- ... that John Cassell, leading educational publisher and temperance campaigner, had little formal schooling and was brought up in a public house?
5x expanded by Shadygrove2007 (talk). Self nom at 12:27, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Offline hook AGF. It seems misleading, though, to say first that he had little schooling and then that he was brought up in a public house, as if the latter resulted from the former. According to your reference, the former resulted from the latter. How about just saying:
- ALT1: ... that John Cassell, a leading educational publisher and temperance campaigner, was brought up in a public house? Yoninah (talk) 22:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Crosby Garrett Helmet
- ... that the Crosby Garrett Helmet, discovered by a metal detectorist in May 2010, has a figurine of a winged griffin on top of a Phrygian cap?
- Comment: Londonclanger started the article at Crosby Garrett helmet, which was later merged with Crosby Garrett Helmet which had been independently started by BabelStone.
Created by Londonclanger (talk), BabelStone (talk). Self nom at 11:43, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length and sourcing for article and hook all check out. Alansohn (talk) 13:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- (double nom with picture)... that the Crosby Garrett Helmet, discovered in May 2010, has a figurine of a winged griffin on top of it, whereas the similar Ribchester Helmet (pictured), discovered in 1796, may have had a sphinx attached to it?
- Comment: Support double nom suggested by Victuallers. BabelStone (talk) 12:05, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment:
Suggest holding it until 7 October 2010, when the Crosby Garrett Helmet is up for auction at Christie's, as there will be a lot of interest on that day (if only we had a picture). BabelStone (talk) 00:04, 16 September 2010 (UTC)-- maybe not such a good idea. BabelStone (talk) 20:05, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- (triple nom with picture) ... that the Crosby Garrett Helmet, discovered in May 2010, has a figurine of a winged griffin on top of it, whereas the similar Ribchester Helmet (pictured), discovered in 1796, may have had a sphinx attached to it, but the Newstead Helmet, discovered in 1905, only had a plume holder? BabelStone (talk) 12:13, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Petter Jakob Bjerve
- ... that Petter Jakob Bjerve defended his doctorate thesis while serving as Norway's Minister of Finance?
5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:41, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Francis Wilford-Smith
- ... that cartoonist Francis Wilford-Smith recorded blues musicians in his English farmhouse using a hired tape recorder and a piano borrowed from the local village hall?
Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 09:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Speartooth shark
- ... that it is uncertain where adult speartooth sharks (pictured) live, as none have been captured?
5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 02:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article meets all length and sourcing requirements. My only question is about the hook, and I'm sure that this could well be my lack of understanding marine biology. While the hook says that the shark has never been captured, and there is a sentence that says the same in the article, in other places in the article it describes various specimens that have been captured. The .pdf source that is used to reference the "never captured" hook states that "All records of G. glyphis (n = 106) were confined to 9 tropical rivers and estuaries north of 15° S. G. garricki (n = 32) were captured in 4 rivers and estuaries as well as in marine environments north of 18° S.", which would seem to indicate that some have been captured and that scientists know where they found them. Furthermore, the accompanying image says it's an image of a "Speartooth shark at the Melbourne Aquarium", which would seem to indicate that it was captured at some point. Am I missing something, or does the wording need to be clarified? This is a well-done article and there is no reason that this hook can't be improved or another one found. Alansohn (talk) 13:49, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- The hook refers to the fact that no adult speartooth sharks have ever been captured. All known specimens were no more than subadults. I'd be willing to entertain alternate phrasing to make this clearer. -- Yzx (talk) 19:39, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is there a source that supports the hook that no adults of the species have been captured? Alansohn (talk) 20:31, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- I quote from the abstract of the aforementioned source: "No mature G. glyphis have been recorded to date". -- Yzx (talk) 21:18, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hook confirmed, this is good to go. Alansohn (talk) 12:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Snout (band)
- ... that Snout was a prominent rock band in Australia throughout much of the 1990s?
Created by Platform3 (talk). Nominated by TexasAndroid (talk) at 00:04, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment: Considering today as the creation date, as today was the day the article was moved out of user space development.
- Is there a more eyecathing fact to be found?
- alt 1 ... that Snout was a fixture of Australia's indie music scene in the 1990s? Cbl62 (talk) 01:16, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Not eyecatching either, a hook should not merely define the topic.
- Please sign your comments (3 unsigned comments under this hook), so that we know who's talking and where one comment begins and the other end. I thought the alt had a certain element of ambiguity that made it interesting. If not, I do suggest something that plays off the unusual name. Cbl62 (talk) 01:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT2...that Rob Roy ended the career of a rock band?
- ALT3...that a rock band did not survive playing for Rob Roy?
- ALT4...that one of the Triffids had a snout? (not currently reffed, but should be easy to do so) Le Deluge (talk) 23:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Miage Glacier
- ... that the Miage Glacier is the largest debris-covered glacier in Europe and the longest glacier in Italy?
Created by Jf378 (talk). Nominated by Smartse (talk) at 22:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Good to go, as length and dates are OK and ref AGF. Ericoides (talk) 11:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Childress County Heritage Museum
- ... that the Childress County Heritage Museum (pictured) contains an exhibit on bombardier pilots trained at an airfield near Childress, Texas, during World War II?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 21:37, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Article is currently blanked as a copyvio. Yoninah (talk) 22:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Beit Netofa Valley
- ... that the lowest temperature ever recorded in Israel, −13.7°C, was measured in the Beit Netofa Valley (pictured) on February 7, 1950?
Created by Poliocretes (talk). Self nom at 21:22, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length and sourcing aof both article and hook have been verified. Alansohn (talk) 13:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Louboutins
- ... that in the song "Louboutins", Jennifer Lopez sings the name of the designer footwear brand a total of thirty-two times?
5x expanded by Lil-unique1 (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- If this hook passes (doesn't look like a 5x expansion), it's worth considering the sample from the song that is included with the page. The sample is pretty funny and would make for an interesting lead hook. Is a short sample from a copyrighted song kosher for the Main Page? Cbl62 (talk) 01:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- I accept that the page may not be exactly 5× expansion but the quality of the article now is much better than previously. And considering that promotion for the song was halted by the record label i've done the best I can to improve the article to its best possible standards based on other GA and FA songs. I think the hook is quite interesting and as Cbl62, if we can include the sound sample, its quite humerous. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 14:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- If this hook passes (doesn't look like a 5x expansion), it's worth considering the sample from the song that is included with the page. The sample is pretty funny and would make for an interesting lead hook. Is a short sample from a copyrighted song kosher for the Main Page? Cbl62 (talk) 01:33, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
When Love Takes Over
- ... that David Guetta and Kelly Rowland's (both pictured) 2009 single, "When Love Takes Over", had to be released early in the United Kingdom because two inferior bootleg versions were released to the iTunes store?.
5x expanded by Lil-unique1 (talk). Self nom at 17:41, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Amanita atkinsoniana, Amanita ravenelii
- ... that the Amanita species A. atkinsoniana (pictured) and A. ravenelii have an odor resembling bleaching powder?
Created by Sasata (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- New articles, sufficient length, AGF for the hook. Well done for getting a GAN done before appearing in DYK! Smartse (talk) 12:30, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Natural gas in Romania
- ... that Romania has the third largest natural gas reserves in the European Union?
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed it is so. Todor→Bozhinov 12:45, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
lintuzumab
- ... that Seattle Genetics withdrew its drug lintuzumab as a treatment for acute myeloid leukemia in September 2010 after a clinical study found that it offered no greater benefit than placebo therapy?
5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. The link to the NY Times page comes up blank, so I'll approve the hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Annie Louisa Walker
- ... that decades after publishing it anonymously, Annie Louisa Walker heard her poem The Night Cometh as a hymn at a temperance meeting, and tracked down Ira D. Sankey, so future editions of the source hymnbook would attribute it correctly?
Created by WilyD (talk). Nominated by WilyD (talk) at 15:02, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hook needs to be under 200 characters. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 16:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- ... that decades after publishing it anonymously, Annie Louisa Walker heard her poem The Night Cometh as a hymn, and located Ira D. Sankey, so future editions of the hymnbook would credit her?
- How's that? WilyD 18:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Thomas Guinzburg
- ... that Thomas Guinzburg hired Jackie Onassis as a book editor, but she left after Viking Press published Shall We Tell the President? about a fictional plot to assassinate President Ted Kennedy?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 14:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
David J. Porter
- ... that a little-known Certified Public Accountant, David J. Porter, handily unseated incumbent Victor G. Carrillo in the March 2, 2010, Republican primary for Texas railroad commissioner?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 12:14, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note: Article is currently at WP:AfD. --Orlady (talk) 12:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Bob Wieland
- ... that double leg amputee Bob Wieland finished the New York City Marathon in three days and crossed America in three years, eight months, and six days — all while walking on his hands?
Created by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 12:14, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Thomas Roscoe Rede Stebbing
- ... that the Reverend Thomas Roscoe Rede Stebbing was a strong supporter of Darwinism, despite having been ordained by Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford, one of its greatest opponents?
5x expanded by Stemonitis (talk). Nominated by Stemonitis (talk) at 11:53, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. However, I don't see anywhere that Wilberforce's opposition to Darwinism played a role in Stebbing's support of it. What do you think about rewording the hook:
- ALT1: ... that the Reverend Thomas Roscoe Rede Stebbing, who became a strong supporter of Darwinism, was ordained by Samuel Wilberforce, Bishop of Oxford, one of its greatest opponents? Yoninah (talk) 20:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Eternal Peace (532)
- ... that the Eternal Peace, concluded between the Byzantine Empire and Sassanid Persia in 532, lasted for just eight years?
Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 11:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified, certified quirky. Gatoclass (talk) 14:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Eng Sérgio Motta Dam
- ... that at 11.38 km (7.07 mi) long, the Eng Sérgio Motta Dam on the Parana River is the longest in Brazil?
Created/self-nom by --NortyNort (Holla) 10:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Looks OK. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:00, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
HMS Hydra (1871)
- ... that the British breastwork monitor HMS Hydra saw service during the Russo-Turkish War with Admiral Sir Cooper Key's Particular Service Squadron in Portland Harbour?
Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just barely makes it with 1500 chars of original text. I've shortened the hook a little. Gatoclass (talk) 05:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
County Road 492 (Marquette County, Michigan)
- ... that the first highway centerline (pictured) was painted on the Marquette–Negaunee Road by K.I. Sawyer in 1917?
Created by Imzadi1979 (talk). Nominated by Imzadi1979 (talk) at 04:11, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Wow! What a cool piece of trivia. And so easy to remember too... CR 492... as in Columbus "discovered" America in 1492. However, I placed a couple of notes on the talk page. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 18:00, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article cited for the hook says "believed to be the first centerline marking on any rural road in America" - this is not what the hook says. Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 12:45, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- The Kulsea book says it was the first, not "believed to be the first". The other item is only citing the K.I. Saywer name, not the fact cited. Imzadi 1979 → 10:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Trout Creek (Deschutes River)
- ... that a pit-house discovered near Trout Creek is at least 5,000 years old?
Created by Little Mountain 5 (talk). Self nom at 03:36, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. I'm having trouble opening the reference document, so I accept the hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:16, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Jordan Creek (Owyhee River)
- ... that Jordan Valley, Oregon, is the only permanently-inhabited population center along Jordan Creek?
Created by Finetooth (talk). Nominated by Strange Passerby (talk) at 02:41, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Kunzea sp. Wadbilliga
- ... that Badja carpet is actually a selected groundcover form of a low shrub from southeastern New South Wales?
- Comment: just thought it was a funny name
Created by Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 02:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmmm, it seems the "Badja Carpet" is related to a different species, Kunzea capitata. Gatoclass (talk) 05:29, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- To clarify - Badja carpet is a horticulturally selected form of Kunzea sp. Wadbilliga which has not been officially described in botanical literature but is related to Kunzea capitata. I'll reread and try to rewrite if it is unclear. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:13, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Dick Ives
- ... that depleted student bodies at American universities caused by World War II enabled Dick Ives to play basketball for Iowa as a 17-year-old freshman?
Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 01:43, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length, date and hook cite check out. Good job. — Brian Halvorsen (talk) 02:15, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Lucius Walker
- ... that Lucius Walker blamed Ronald Reagan for a 1988 river boat attack by Contra rebels in Nicaragua in which two were killed, saying he had come "face to face with the terrorism of our own government"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 01:29, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 12
René la Taupe
- ... that the official song for the 2010 FIFA World Cup was recently bumped off the top spot on the French music chart by a single by René la Taupe, a virtual singing groundhog?
- Comment: Sorry, I know I'm late by a day. I was busy in real-life yesterday. --PFHLai (talk) 21:52, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Created by Europe22 (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 21:52, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- No problem; it's within 8 days of creation. Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Changed "character" to "groundhog", which is catchier. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:26, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Watervliet Shaker Historic District
- ... that the Watervliet Shakers are thought to have been the first seed sellers to package seeds in small, paper envelopes?
5x expandd by User:AMuseo (talk). Nominated by User:AMuseo (talk) 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified, tweaked hook to conform more closely with article. Gatoclass (talk) 03:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that in the Watervliet Shakers stopped admitting married new members unless both husband and wife joined after a custody battle made unwanted headlines?
Pinctada radiata
- ... that the range of the pearl oyster Pinctada radiata extends from Japan to Victoria?
- Comment: I'll probably add more if I have time. Intelligentsium 22:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Created by Intelligentsium (talk). Self nom at 22:57, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Abe Jacobs
- ... that now-retired professional wrestler Abe Jacobs once defeated three other wrestlers in Johannesburg despite suffering from jet lag and competing at a high altitude?
Created by 72.74.215.175 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 03:58, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Sharif El-Gamal
- ... that Sharif El-Gamal, the Muslim real estate developer behind the "Ground Zero mosque", is a member of the local Jewish Community Center, which he says served as an inspiration for his project?
Created by Plot Spoiler (talk). Self nom at 22:42, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref all verified. Fixed double link and tweaked hook. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:05, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Hugh of Amiens
- ... that Hugh of Amiens, archbishop of Rouen, was the first abbot of Reading?
- Comment: hook is referenced separately, and all unreferenced content in the article comes from the DNB
Created/expanded by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Nominated by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk) at 22:16, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Comment There shouldn't be any unreferenced content. If you have a source, quote it. Mjroots2 (talk) 07:04, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's DNB, see Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Dictionary_of_National_Biography for info. Knowing what some people here are like, I even referenced the hook from somewhere else ... this should be good enough. Cheers, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 15:06, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Added citations and link to wikisource DNB entry. Length, style, refs and hook now verified. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 16:32, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
North Berwick nunnery
... that the last prioress of North Berwick nunnery handed the lands of her nunnery over to her kinsman Lord Home?
Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Nominated by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk) at 22:10, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. However, I don't see the hook fact spelled out in the article (that she was the last prioress), and the link you gave here to Lord Home (which redirects to Earl of Home) is not the same as the link in the article. Yoninah (talk) 17:55, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- 1) There is a list of prioresses in the article, but I've now spelled this out. 2) Not sure I understand what the problem is .. Lord Home redirects to a list of lords Home merged in the Earl of Home (later elevation) article ... Alexander Home, 5th Lord Home is a red-link and I assumed it preferable to avoid red-linking ... . Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking care of that. I see what you mean about the red link. How about this link (click on it to see where it goes):
- ALT1: ... that the last prioress of North Berwick nunnery handed the lands of her nunnery over to her kinsman, the fifth Lord Home? Yoninah (talk) 18:32, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's fine. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:35, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hook ref verified. ALT1 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:33, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking care of that. I see what you mean about the red link. How about this link (click on it to see where it goes):
Siege of St. Augustine (1702)
- ... that riots erupted in Charles Town, Province of Carolina, after Governor James Moore's failed 1702 Siege of St. Augustine (fortress pictured)?
5x expanded by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 16:45, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length, hook ref all verified. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Battle of Satala (530)
- ... that in the Battle of Satala in 530, a Byzantine officer captured the Persian general's flag, causing the Persian army to panic and retreat?
Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 09:56, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. AGF on the offline references. Never lose the colors! --NortyNort (Holla) 11:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Dr. Archibald Neil Sinclair House
- ... that the Dr. Archibald Neil Sinclair House on the National Register of Historic Places on Oahu has a bomb shelter in its front yard?
Created by Joel Bradshaw (talk). Nominated by Self (talk) at 02:07, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- I can never access NRHP files for some reason and the article looks good but let me suggest an ALT:--NortyNort (Holla) 11:04, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that the Dr. Archibald Neil Sinclair House in Oahu has a bomb shelter in its front yard?
East Pakistan Renaissance Society
- ... that the founding leader of Bangladesh, Sheikh Mujibur Rahman was also a co-founder of the East Pakistan Renaissance Society, which promoted East Pakistan as an independent state?
Created by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Nominated by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk) at 00:13, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Tweaked hook and it's good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
T. H. Harris
... that the Louisiana education superintendent T. H. Harris led the push prior to 1940 to replace one-room rural schools with modern consolidated facilities?
Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 22:34, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that a college scholarship program, a technical college, and a middle school are all named for T. H. Harris, who served as Louisiana education superintendent from 1908-1940?
- I prefer ALT1 because it reads smoother. Date, length, hook ref all verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Down in the Willow Garden
- ... that Holly Hunter sang the traditional murder ballad "Down in the Willow Garden" as a lullaby in the 1987 film Raising Arizona?
Created by Fences and windows (talk). Self nom at 21:57, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:34, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Bruce Erickson (paleontologist)
- ... that Bruce Erickson, an American paleontologist, has a collection of about a million specimens of ancient fossils?
5x expanded by Silver seren (talk). Self nom at 21:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- This five times expansion is contingent on my assumption that the Publications section does not count toward prose count. Silverseren 21:33, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. I changed "more than" to "about" per the article and reference.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Oil shale in Serbia
Created by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 21:02, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- I changed contains > has as I think this readers better. Smartse (talk) 19:01, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
HMS Cyclops (1871)
- ... that the British breastwork monitor HMS Cyclops and other ships of her type were described by Admiral G. A. Ballard as being like "full-armoured knights riding on donkeys, easy to avoid but bad to close with."?
Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 20:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Please bold the eligible article. Gatoclass (talk) 05:33, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just barely enough original text apart from the text duplicated in Cyclops class monitor to squeak through. Gatoclass (talk) 04:53, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Abe Waddington
- ... that after the county cricket match between Yorkshire and Middlesex in July 1924, Yorkshire's Abe Waddington was accused of inciting the crowd to barrack the opposition?
ALT1:... that Yorkshire and England cricketer Major Booth died in the arms of future Yorkshire cricketer Abe Waddington at the Battle of the Somme.
5x expanded by Sarastro1 (talk). Self nom at 19:40, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 17:27, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Ages of Three Children puzzle
- ... that in mathematics, it is possible to calculate the age of three children from just the sum, product and uniqueness of their ages?
- Comment: I (Chzz) would like joint credit for this one, given the orig version and my expansion of it to a hopefully acceptable article.
Created by Androstachys (talk). Nominated by Chzz (talk) at 19:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Added a creation credit for Chzz for developing the article from a stub. However, there aren't any references for the "Solution" section. Yoninah (talk) 14:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- I really think this is basic, self-explanatory logic, but still; I've added a couple of the same refs to the 'solutions', and they do indeed concur with the answers. Chzz ► 15:55, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Them's the DYK rules. Thanks. Hook ref verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 16:48, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- I really think this is basic, self-explanatory logic, but still; I've added a couple of the same refs to the 'solutions', and they do indeed concur with the answers. Chzz ► 15:55, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Lake Zabuye
- ... that Lake Zabuye is the major source of lithium in China?
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 13:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length, hook ref verified. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:27, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Becconsall Old Church
- ... that Becconsall Old Church, Lancashire, (pictured) was built with handmade bricks supplied by the lord of the manor?
Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 13:54, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:54, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Călineşti-Oaş
- ... that archaeological finds in Călineşti-Oaş demonstrate it was inhabited by the Starčevo culture during the Early Neolithic Age (5500–5200 BC)?
5x expanded by Bine Mai (talk). Nominated by Bine Mai (talk) at 13:22, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Archaeological finds can't state; they can show, suggest, demonstrate
- Thanks for the tip. BineMai 19:49, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion, length and date verified. Had to remove a stub tag though, remember to do that :) Most importantly, the hook reference says 5500–5200 BC rather than 5500–5700 BC; which is true? Todor→Bozhinov 10:23, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- You're right must have seen wrong. Fixed it. BineMai 10:29, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- All good now. Fixed some number formatting and some word order in the hook. Todor→Bozhinov 10:53, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Itá Hydroelectric Power Plant, Machadinho Hydroelectric Power Plant, Barra Grande Hydroelectric Power Plant
- ... that the Itá, Machadinho and Barra Grande Hydroelectric Power Plants can together generate 127% of the energy demand in Brazil's state of Santa Catarina?
Created/self-nom by--NortyNort (Holla) 10:26, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Foreign-language hook ref AGF. Added "together". Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Oscar Torp
- ... that Oscar Torp, later Prime Minister of Norway, was responsible for the successful flight of the Norwegian National Treasury in 1940?
5x expanded by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:21, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- AGF verified. Gatoclass (talk) 15:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
East Siberian Sea
- ... that the northernmost city of Russia, Pevek (pictured), stands on the East Siberian Sea?
5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Nominated by Materialscientist (talk) at 09:38, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- I can see three sources which state that Pevek is the northernmost Russian city, but none which state it is on the East Siberian Sea. Gatoclass (talk) 15:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Added a reference (the city is on the infobox map too). Materialscientist (talk) 22:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- I can see three sources which state that Pevek is the northernmost Russian city, but none which state it is on the East Siberian Sea. Gatoclass (talk) 15:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified, image verified as PD. I took the liberty of deleting the alt image as it wasn't very informative. Lead article candidate. Gatoclass (talk) 05:07, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Ontario Highway 61
- ... that the old bridge (pictured) on Highway 61 at the Ontario–Minnesota border, known as The Outlaw, was built by local citizens without approval from the Canadian or American governments?
5x expanded by Floydian (talk). Self nom at 08:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Article meets length and sourcing standards and hook meets standards. Alansohn (talk) 15:55, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Cyclops class monitor
- ... that the accommodations aboard the Cyclops-class monitors were rated the worst in the Royal Navy and referred to by ordinary seamen as "ratholes with tinned air"?
Created by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 06:08, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Length, style OK. Refs accepted agf. Shadygrove2007 (talk) 19:49, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
R. Smith Simpson
- ... that American diplomat R. Smith Simpson wrote in 1962 that many students interested in joining the Foreign Service knew little about the U.S. and were "wholly unprepared for diplomatic work"?
Created by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:56, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:50, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 11
List of battlecruisers of the Royal Navy
- ... that of the nine British battlecruisers built before World War I only HMS Tiger was retained by the Royal Navy after the tonnage limits of the Washington Naval Treaty came into effect in 1922?
5x expanded by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Sturmvogel 66 (talk) at 01:45, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. Date, length OK. You did a great expansion job, but you seem to have left out the lead explaining that these are 10 ships. With the lead, it's ready for DYK. Yoninah (talk) 14:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what you mean by being left out of the lead. Can you explain the problem? I've revised the DYK slightly as I'd miscounted the total ship involved; it's only nine, as I shouldn't have included the one Australian ship. And I've revised the last paragraph of the lede in response to what I think your point is. Let me know if that answers.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 16:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Before you started expanding it, the article began with the lead: "This is a list of battlecruisers of the Royal Navy of the United Kingdom." Just something to set the direction of the article. Right now the article seems to start with an explanation that would better go under a section called "Background". Yoninah (talk) 16:54, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, that's no longer done at WP:FLC, which is where this is heading after it finishes its ACR.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:02, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK, if you say so. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Unforgiven (2000)
- ... that three separate wrestlers won the WWF Hardcore Championship in a single match at Unforgiven (2000)?
Created by Richard "Wrestler" Lopez (talk). Nominated by GaryColemanFan (talk) at 22:28, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Maxwell Woodhull House
- ... that the Army general Maxwell Woodhull donated his family home to George Washington University in Washington, D.C.?
Created by Grsz11 (talk). Nominated by Grsz11 (talk) at 15:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Can you add more to this article? The last two sentences and last sentence in the third paragraph go off topic into the resident's bios. When I removed those, the article was at 1,357 characters.--NortyNort (Holla) 10:33, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- I added more, although I think that both of those facts are relevant to the house's importance, atleast that's what the National Register thought. Often times, these places are historically important more for who lived there, not because of what the place looks like. Grsz 14:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified. Good point, I just thought it got a little off topic. --NortyNort (Holla) 21:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
James Haldenston
- ... that James Haldenston, Prior of St Andrews and Dean of Theology at St Andrews University, was praised by the medieval historian Walter Bower for his hatred of lollards?
Created by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk). Nominated by Deacon of Pndapetzim (talk) at 22:05, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Date, length OK. Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 14:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
M Vijayan
- ... that M Vijayan, a Professor at Indian Institute of Science, was awarded India's fourth highest civilian honor, Padma Shri, in 2004?
Created by Kiran.kulkarni (talk). Nominated by Mspraveen (talk) at 08:49, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- I put a tag on the article regarding the overuse of peacock words in the lead and article, like "pivotal", "outstanding", "seminal". If it's true, it needs to be backed up by inline citations. Also, the bare URLS need to be expanded per WP:Citation templates, and the infobox needs to be resized so it doesn't fill the whole page. Yoninah (talk) 19:50, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Kyle Watson
- ... that Kyle Watson, a competitor on The Ultimate Fighter: Team GSP vs. Team Koscheck, is also the head Jiu-Jitsu instructor at the H.I.T. Squad?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 00:10, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Stephen Atkins Swails
- ... that Stephen A. Swails may have been the first African American commissioned as a officer in the Union Army during the American Civil War?
5x expanded by Trfasulo (talk). Self nom at 19:19, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- The article lacks a lead section; just a line or two will do to explain his notability. Also, I can't find any mention of the hook fact in the article. Yoninah (talk) 21:47, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. Hopefully, I have satisfied both requirements in the new lead-in. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 01:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, the lead looks good. Just one more question: Is that speculation that he was probably the first African American promoted to officer, based on the War Dept's initial refusal, all mentioned in the source? Otherwise, it may be original research. Yoninah (talk) 09:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- The cited text states that he was promoted by Governor Andrew of Massachusetts effective 11 March 1864, but the War Department would not allow him to muster as such until 17 January 1864. However, he assumed and served in the rank of 2nd Lt. as of Andrew's orders. Does this need to be made clearer? Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 15:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's clear and sourced that he became an officer; it's not sourced that he "may have been the first African American commissioned as a officer in the Union Army during the American Civil War". Yoninah (talk) 16:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- The cited text states that he was promoted by Governor Andrew of Massachusetts effective 11 March 1864, but the War Department would not allow him to muster as such until 17 January 1864. However, he assumed and served in the rank of 2nd Lt. as of Andrew's orders. Does this need to be made clearer? Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 15:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- I added another citation (# 9) to the hook from Emilio p. 268. On that page it states, "He was one of the earliest if not the first colored officer mustered." Considering that he was promoted almost a year before he was mustered, that is good evidence that he was probably the first such promoted. The existing citation # 2 for the hook in the article has the statement, "Swails was promoted in 1864 to second lieutenant for his performance on the battlefield by Massachusetts' governor John Andrews. This was an unprecedented step that was celebrated by black American journals. However, the Army, which was not paying black recruits their soldiers' wages, refused to honor the promotion until the following year, after Andrews lobbied on Swails' behalf." Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 20:58, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for your patience in clearing all this up! Offline hook ref AGF. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 21:27, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks. This was my first DYK, and it was a real learning experience. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 23:36, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Rhacophorus lateralis
- ... that Rhacophorus lateralis (pictured) is a tree frog that was rediscovered after over 100 years and is one of the few Indian anuran amphibians to construct its nest above the ground using leaves?
5x expanded by Prashanthns (talk). Self nom at 18:29, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- 5x expansion verified. How can it be the only one when the article states "Along with R malabaricus, it is the only other anuran amphibian in India that constructs its nest above the ground using leaves"? Can you also add a reference to the threats section? Thanks Smartse (talk) 22:33, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks for the comment. Have modified hook. Reference added. prashanthns (talk) 07:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've tweaked the hook some more - can you check that this is ok? Smartse (talk) 01:17, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sure. This is fine. Thanks. prashanthns (talk) 16:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've tweaked the hook some more - can you check that this is ok? Smartse (talk) 01:17, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Five Hydroelectric Power Stations/Dams in Brazil
- ... that before reaching the Iguazu Falls (pictured) on the border of Brazil and Argentina, the Iguazu River is interrupted by the hydroelectric José Richa, Salto Osório, Salto Santiago, Ney Braga and Bento Munhoz Dams?
- Comment There are a few good pictures of the waterfall. I also left all the article titles out of the section header.--NortyNort (Holla) 14:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Created/self-nom by--NortyNort (Holla) 14:46, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- Why not mention in the hook that they are all hydroelectric dams? Gatoclass (talk) 08:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- That works, I added it in. --NortyNort (Holla) 10:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note: Three of these dams (Bento Munhoz, Ney Braga and José Richa) had a name change and are referred to on the map reference and article reference as Foz do Areia, Salto Segredo, and Salto Caxias.--NortyNort (Holla) 21:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 8
Alexander Volkov (fighter)
- ... that despite turning professional just over a year prior, Alexander Volkov reached the final of the M-1 Global Eastern Europe tournament?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:06, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Couple of uncited paragraphs in this one. Gatoclass (talk) 03:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- bottom nom again. Will delete tomorrow if not fixed. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Once again, this had nothing to do with the hook's suitability. Regardless, it's done. Paralympiakos (talk) 01:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Once again, you're missing the point about overall quality of a DYK article. Perhaps you should read the standards for DYK, not just the hook. Here's a start. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Like I say......it's done. Paralympiakos (talk) 01:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Once again, you're missing the point about overall quality of a DYK article. Perhaps you should read the standards for DYK, not just the hook. Here's a start. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Once again, this had nothing to do with the hook's suitability. Regardless, it's done. Paralympiakos (talk) 01:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Can't see the hook statement in the article. The hook statement must appear in main body text in the article and be cited. Gatoclass (talk) 05:02, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that Alexander Volkov fight with Nikolay Pleshakov was over after just 80 seconds?
- ALT2 ... that Alexander Volkov won a TKO victory in just 20 seconds?
- Neither of those alts work for me, there's nothing unusual about a fight ending in a few seconds. Let's give Paralympia a chance to respond to my comment above. Gatoclass (talk) 08:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, sorry it's taken me so long to get to this. My alarm clock didn't go off. The first hook by me, I have him starting training at the start of 2009 which is sourced, combined with his first pro appearance taking place in 2009 (record box being sourced). Also have the tournament finals sourced. I don't understand what the problem with that hook is, considering. Paralympiakos (talk) 12:13, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Special occasion holding area
- Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.
For September 25
Pat Audinwood
- ... that Pat "Awesomely Awesome" Audinwood made his Ultimate Fighting Championship debut at UFC 119 against Thiago Tavares?
Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 12:24, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- A few notes/question for this one. I've added his nickname to the actual name, as I figure the humour involved may drag in a few more views. It's his legitimate (sourced) nickname, so I don't think there'd be aproblem in that. The reason I've done it that way is that "Pat Audinwood, nicknamed "Awesomely Awesome"" might seem a little disjointed. If there's any problems with this, then let me know.
- Additionally, this hook is about a future event, due to take place on September 25th. The reason for past tense is that I figure by the time this hook makes it to the queue, the event will have transpired - that is, unless we do one of those timed hooks. If someone recommends timed hooking to take place just prior to the event, I'd be happy with that too, but I figure I'd open up the floor here first. Paralympiakos (talk) 12:27, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- I have done a copy edit of this article, improving the flow of the text and looking at MoS compliance. I like the inclusion of the nickname. The article is now fully referenced, length ok, date of creation ok, in my view it is good to go. I am not putting the tick for two reasons... (1) with the copy editing I've done I may now be "involved" and (2) because I think a date-specific nomination would be more appropriate. So, I suggest a modified hook for use on 25 September (during day time in Indianapolis, USA, as that is where the match is scheduled:
- ALT1: ... that Pat "Awesomely Awesome" Audinwood makes his Ultimate Fighting Championship debut in a match against Thiago Tavares today in Indianapolis?
- So, if Paralympiakos remains in favour of a specific date DYK, I'm willing to be bold and move the nomination. Thoughts? EdChem (talk) 02:40, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm absolutely fine with a timed one, however, I'm in two minds as to which one. Here's how I see it. The event will take place on Sept 25th at 10pm EST/3am my time. However, this is the main card, which Audinwood is not on. His fight will likely take place at 1.30am my time. Now, as a result, my preferred hook time would be the 1am London slot, as it's JUST before his fight and also has the benefit of adding readers who come to wikipedia to see the results of the main slot. Alternatively, we could use the slot just prior, which would be less preferable for the above reasons. Paralympiakos (talk) 12:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- P.S. I think the inclusion of UFC 119 in the hook would be better, but I'll leave that up to consensus. Paralympiakos (talk) 12:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm going to be bold and move this to a dated nomination, which slot can be worked out later. To include UFC 119 not just as a link (as in ALT1), how about:
- ALT2: ... that Pat "Awesomely Awesome" Audinwood makes his Ultimate Fighting Championship debut in a UFC 119 match against Thiago Tavares today in Indianapolis?
- I think the length rule for the hook is still satisfied. EdChem (talk) 14:22, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Still trying to get this to appear under the September 25 nomination... EdChem (talk) 14:28, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm very happy with ALT 2. If admins take a look at this, could they please take note of the preferred time slot. Thank you. Paralympiakos (talk) 15:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
For September 26, 17th Sunday after Trinity
Bringet dem Herrn Ehre seines Namens, BWV 148
- ... that Bach scored an alto aria for two oboes d'amore and oboe da caccia in his cantata Bringet dem Herrn Ehre seines Namens, BWV 148 for the 17th Sunday after Trinity?
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
For October 1
Wait for me, Daddy
- ... that while Pte. Jack Bernard was marching with his regiment, 70 years ago on October 1, 1940, little "Whitey” Bernard was photographed running after his father?
new by Esemono (talk). Self nom at 08:30, 05 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sourced to this newspaperarticle -- Esemono (talk) 05:56, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- ALT1 - ... that 70 years ago on October 1, 1940, little "Whitey” Bernard was photographed running after his father who was marching to war?
and Canadian picture is OK too. Victuallers (talk) 15:54, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- At the risk of stating the obvious, this really ought to be the lead hook with image. Bencherlite 23:04, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
For 31 October, Hallowe'en
- The 2010 Halloween collection has started early. Victuallers (talk) 20:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)Victuallers (talk) 21:19, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
Devils River (Wisconsin)
- ... that Wisconsin's Devils River was known by the Ojibwe tribe as the "Stooping Spirit River"?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 13:47, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Giovanni de Ventura, plague doctor, beak doctor costume, plague doctor contract
- ... that Giovanni de Ventura, a plague doctor dressed in a beak doctor costume (pictured), was restricted by a covenant to treat only infectious patients?
Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 13:55, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Only the article name which is being suggested for DYK should be bolded in the hook (WP:WIADYK)Jebus989 10:45, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Note that this is a 4 article hook (4 new articles in the header above for 1 hook line), so I believe all 4 articles should be bolded.--Doug Coldwell 10:56, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Ah I see, sorry there's nothing about multi article hooks in WP:WIADYK so I wasn't aware they were acceptable. Though I can see from looking now they are fairly common and something should probably be added to the rules to reflect this (unless i've missed it somewhere). Apologies Jebus989 14:05, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- No problem. As you can see in my list of Did You Knows numbers 87 through 133 I have done several in the past. I think it is fun to do. Really challenging.--Doug Coldwell 16:26, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- For Halloween Doug? Victuallers (talk) 22:20, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, that sounds like fun.--Doug Coldwell 22:52, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- What do I have to do now, if anything?--Doug Coldwell 22:54, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sure, that sounds like fun.--Doug Coldwell 22:52, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well its a bit vague...1. Move your hook to the bottom of the page 2. You may get some more macarbre, funny etc suggestions for a hook and it should get dyktick'ed. 3. Then after its been there about 24 hours or so it gets moved off to the dedicated page. 4. Then about three or four days before we sort out the 40 or so hooks into "8"s so they are ready to load on the 36 hours or so that is Halloween internationally. 5. We do the awards and 6 .... and please help with all of this. It only works if we all do a bit. Victuallers (talk) 09:52, 18 September 2010 (UTC) P.S. If others are reading this then this means you as well. Don't wait to be invited.
- All four articles check out for length and timeliness of submission. The hook checks out for length (as it currently stands), the restricted covenant claim is cited, and off-line cite AGF. However, the article on Giovanni de Ventura does not definitely say he wore the beak doctor costume. Nor do the other three articles. If the hook is altered to say he "likely" wore or "may have worn", I'd approve the hook. But the hook has to stay under 200 characters. - Tim1965 (talk) 20:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Bonfire toffee
- ... that bonfire toffee is brittle, dark toffee associated with Halloween and Bonfire Night in the United Kingdom?
5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 00:26, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Nice work, but I think this would be better for November 5th. The ref for it being associated with Halloween says "Any apples that weren’t used for bobbing would be speared with sticks, dunked into toffee, then left to set hard and glassy for Hallowe’en; there was treacle toffee (which some call treason toffee) on Bonfire Night" - this isn't saying that it is associated with Halloween unfortunately. Smartse (talk) 15:58, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- You'll find it's both, and I added a second cite (and quoted from that cite in the reference) just for show. - Tim1965 (talk) 21:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
October the 31st (The Fall Guy episode)
- ... that Cassandra Peterson, AKA Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (pictured), and veteran horror movie actor, John Carradine guest starred on the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st along with Keith, Robert and David Carradine?
Created by --Ishtar456 (talk) 22:34, 1 September 2010 (UTC))
- .(alt)..
that in 1984, The Fall Guy episode October the 31st featured Keith, Robert, David and John Carradine, as well as John's evil twin brother? Victuallers (talk) 16:16, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- .(alt)..
- I fixed it up a bit. We don't really want to leave out Keith. But that fact (twin brother) is not cited (in a synopsis you aren't supposed to need it, but for DYK you do). In all fairness, Elvira and John were the guest stars and the other Carradines just had cameos. Are you sure we want to leave Elvira out? Isn't she all about Halloween?--Ishtar456 (talk) 02:43, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- I agree lack of source kills it and Elvira is better - maybe replace eveil twin with Elvira? Victuallers (talk) 09:21, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alt 1... that the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, "October the 31st", guest starred Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (pictured), veteran horror movie actor John Carradine, and Keith, Robert and David Carradine?
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- Alt 2... that Elvira, Mistress of the Dark (pictured) guest starred on the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st and veteran horror movie actor, John Carradine appeared too, with sons Keith, Robert and David?
- Alt 3... that John Carradine haunted Elvira's (pictured) guest appearance on the 1984 Halloween episode of The Fall Guy, October the 31st and fired all three of his actor sons? -my fav.--Ishtar456 (talk) 12:04, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- - The article checks out for length, and timeliness of submission. The original hook is too long (229 characters). I slightly cleaned up ALT1 to put the episode title in quotes (rather than italics) and because it was a run-on sentence, and now it's under 200 characters. ALT1 now checks out for length, with off-line cite AGF. ALT2 is too long (208 characters) and clumsily worded anyway. ALT3 fails because under DYK rules "the hook must involve the real world in some way" and must have a citation. It's cute, but doesn't meet the criteria. Since I altered ALT1, would someone else please check it out just to be sure? (I don't wanna be accused of bias...) - Tim1965 (talk) 20:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Ipswich Witchcraft Trial
- ... that the Ipswich Witchcraft Trial has been called the "Second Salem Witch Trial", and was the last witch trial held in the United States?
Created by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 23:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- "May have been the last witch trial", rather. We don't know what will happen in the future -- people do make ridiculous assertions still, and occasionally judges humor them (witness the case of the woman who got a restraining order against David Letterman so that he would stop psychically harassing her). DS (talk) 13:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's true of 99 percent of DYK noms which use the term "largest," "most expensive," "tallest," "record," etc. On the other hand, we can't predict the future, so "may have been" is not accurate, either. It's why I chose "has been called"; that is an accurate statement, although it may not hold true in the future. - Tim1965 (talk) 12:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Got to agree with Tim.. surely the average reader is clever enough to realise that, say, the world's tallest man ......... means the man who when measured to the top of his head when standing with bare feet and without a spine extender is the tallest although there may be other men taller who have not measured them selves or been found and it is possible that in the future other men could grow taller or by using gentic modification it may be possible ... etc etc We must assume that sentient people know that new things happen in the future. rant over Victuallers (talk) 09:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- I changed "may be" to "was" as this seems more clear to me and is definitely true. Smartse (talk) 09:54, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.--Ishtar456 (talk) 01:18, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Verified, off-line citations taken on faith.--Ishtar456 (talk) 15:30, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Veratrum nigrum
- ... that it is not true that the Black False Hellebore is a Hellebore, it is true that it is highly toxic and can easily cause death?
5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Nominated by Tim1965 (talk) at 18:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The hook seems a bit obvious to me - surely the reason it is called a false hellebore is because it isn't a hellebore? Smartse (talk) 20:26, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- The point is to create a play on words with the title of the plant. It is not a true Hellbore; it is true it can kill you. When it comes to plants, most people probably don't know what the term "false" means (I didn't). So verifying that "false means false" is not just a play on words, it is informative as well (confirming a person's assumptions). - Tim1965 (talk) 03:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nah, I'm with Smartse, this hook is just not working for me. And I don't really see the Halloween connection either, unless anything that could kill you is now eligible for Halloween. I don't think we're going to be short. I suggest this goes back to "regular" DYK, and you come up with another hook? Sorry. PS Tim - "Hellebore" is an English word, not a Latin word like Helleborus, so "hellebore" should not be italicised, in DYK or in the article. Le Deluge (talk) 19:13, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hellebore is the genus, and genus and species are italized. - Tim1965 (talk) 23:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Grammar point: there should either be a "while" after the first "that", or there should be a "but" before "it is true", or the comma before "it is true" should be a semi-colon. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
- ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?
- ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?
Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
--K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:
- Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC) - No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)- Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification:
I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Support' as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
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