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What part of ] do you not understand? At the template, ''you'' added the 'outlines' nonsense. That was '''Bold'''. I '''reverted''' it. Now it is time to '''discuss''' the addition of the outlines garbage. What part of that is unclear to you? Please revert yourself and '''discuss''' putting that link in the template. I do not understand why this is so difficult for you. →&nbsp;]&nbsp;]<small>&nbsp;01:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)</small> What part of ] do you not understand? At the template, ''you'' added the 'outlines' nonsense. That was '''Bold'''. I '''reverted''' it. Now it is time to '''discuss''' the addition of the outlines garbage. What part of that is unclear to you? Please revert yourself and '''discuss''' putting that link in the template. I do not understand why this is so difficult for you. →&nbsp;]&nbsp;]<small>&nbsp;01:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)</small>
::What are you talking about i am not going to revert back to your red linked version! I added the link 6 months ago. So its you 6 months later that did the bold edit and I that reverted you. And you do understand that "BRD" is only a essay. If you have a problem with the page as you clearly do get it deleted do not delink it because you think its crap. Its clear you are attempting to orphan an article that you do not like. Plus you seem not to be-able to edit the temple properly and i another reason i would not revert. So again best you try better and get a better understanding of what a Bold edit is. I see you have had many problems here you realy think this is the way to go again? As you have been told by me and others what your doing and the way your doing it is wrong. Do you understand all this ?? ::What are you talking about i am not going to revert back to your red linked version! I added the link 6 months ago. So its you 6 months later that did the bold edit and I that reverted you. And you do understand that "BRD" is only a essay. If you have a problem with the page as you clearly do get it deleted do not delink it because you think its crap. Its clear you are attempting to orphan an article that you do not like. Plus you seem not to be-able to edit the temple properly and is another reason i would not revert. So again best you try better and get a better understanding of what a Bold edit is. I see you have had many problems here you realy think this is the way to go again? As you have been told by me and others what your doing and the way your doing it is wrong. Do you understand all this ??


== Iron Maiden: Discussion of Album Sales: 70m or 80/100m, or worded to include certified and (as claims) 70, 80, and 100 == == Iron Maiden: Discussion of Album Sales: 70m or 80/100m, or worded to include certified and (as claims) 70, 80, and 100 ==

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Moxy ...Formally know as Buzzzsherman
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Australia has a long history of Indigenous genocide denialism, with the country's treatment of its Aboriginal population being one of the most notorious examples. Since the arrival of European settlers in the late 18th century, the Indigenous peoples of Australia have faced systemic violence, displacement, and discrimination. Despite overwhelming evidence of the atrocities committed against them, the Australian government and many members of the public have been reluctant to acknowledge the full extent of the genocide that took place. This denialism has manifested in various ways, from downplaying the severity of the violence to shifting blame onto the victims themselves.

One of the most glaring examples of Indigenous genocide denialism in Australia is the reluctance to recognize the Stolen Generations as a form of genocide. The Stolen Generations refers to the practice of forcibly removing Indigenous children from their families and communities, with the aim of assimilating them into white society. This policy, which was in place for over a century, had devastating consequences for the Indigenous population, resulting in widespread trauma and loss of culture. Despite the overwhelming evidence of the harm caused by the Stolen Generations, many Australians continue to deny or minimize the impact of this policy, perpetuating the erasure of Indigenous experiences and contributing to the ongoing marginalization of Aboriginal communities.

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Moxy? When I've done too much actual reserching and ediing for the day but don't mind some "busywork", I generally look for musician's biographies pages like this and then sometimes I find articles that have them already, (with or without photos- and indicate that there's no longer a need for it on the talk page) OR if I find an article with a photo, I build the infobox and populate it with what I find in the article. No problem! However, then there is CANADA. There's like, a zillion stubs that are mostly jazz focused and have no references. Their talk pages often have five different Wikigroups supposedly interested in the article, but a lot of the time everything but the word "Canada" with a gigantic logo. OR there is a huge page of text that appears copied directly and appears to be a copyright violation, with no attempt at referencing-- inline or not. I don't want to waste my time! I am swiftly losing the enthusiasm to touch all stubs Canada. I dislike the same issues with Swedish entries as with Canada, but I know they have a language gap! It appears they are only learning from the Canadian stubs since plenty of the Canadian ones consist of perhaps only two sentences! Can we fix this??--Leahtwosaints (talk) 18:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Oooh, and that's another thing that bugs me. WHY is the Misplaced Pages (in the en.Misplaced Pages anyway) so keen to reward the newest users in particular for starting as many articles as possible? --- cause frankly? I think there should be the biggest emphasis upon improving and finishing them!! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 19:32, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Not sure how we can fix this ...by hand would take years....perhaps we should quickly look at some for deletion if there are bios with no refs and any copyright problems you think there is.Moxy (talk) 23:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:I am stuck on the GA review

That's actually a big part of why I made the suggestion that I did at the start of the process (via email). Sure, we can not list it now and try again in a few months - that's probably a good solution. I'll do that now. On the bright said, that should make the next review considerably shorter :-) Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 23:45, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes i wish i had seen the email earlier...........I think your right and it would only help to improve the article if we took more time. I hate a failed GA review..but its clearly the right choice that will lead to a better more comprehensive article in the end. Moxy (talk) 23:51, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Oh well...I'm going to do a bit of copy-editing on it now, might get in some more tomorrow. On another topic, when you get a chance, could you re-assess the class of Maple syrup? It's not start-class anymore. I'd do it myself, but I've been working on the article a bit too much (CoI). Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 02:25, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject footer templates

Moxy, what consensus do you have for adding all this stuff to dozens of projects? –Moondyne 04:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Its a fix it project of mine ..Pls see User talk:Moxy#Re: Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines - WikiProject Footer + tools.Moxy (talk) 04:10, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I'll begrudgingly accept {{WikiProject Footer}}, but adding a random list of tool links as well as yet another policy template is worse than useless on pages such as these. It's more instruction creep for editors to wade through which has little or no direct significance to the project topic. I suggest you revert these and seek to find a consensus before mass spamming. –Moondyne 04:19, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Not sure how Project wide polices are bad...but you are free to do what you wish with the edits in the projects .Moxy (talk) 04:24, 22 September 2010 (UTC). Moxy (talk) 04:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
You're not sure how they're bad and you're not arguing that they be removed. It sounds like it was a poorly thought out action on your part. Every page is one click away from a policy list, we don't need any more. I suggest you start reverting your graffiti. It irks me that at least one other user asked the same question which you arrogantly dismissed and deleted from your talk page, and continued to mass-spam. –Moondyne 04:47, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
O i see y your so upset sorry did not mean to add it back again..i guess i forgot to add it to the list. As for the other user that commented it was resolved and thus deleted as i give all a second chance and remove it so i forget who said what (all is still visible in edit history) ..Your lack of assuming good faith and insults are a bit overwhelming to me. And as far as i am aware the tool links are not considered "graffiti" or "spam", but rather an interwiki link. I personally think that the {{Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines}} is a great addition to all projects as its a fast link to the main project wide polices and guidelines that the community has decided are the most important. It is also great for newbies as Wikiproject are usually were new collaborations start and debates are resolved. ..Anywas we are simply in disagreement over there legitimacy on WikiProject pages. With that said and you being the second person to mention it (after 2000 + projects) i will not add the tools or polices anymore (until i have consensus now that it has been refuted by 2 uninvolved editors). But i will still be fixing the External links that are below the footers... SO could we have a civil conversation and not have any insults or demands by ether party. You say that the polices are linked on every page were could i finds this and y is it not more visible? Moxy (talk) 07:49, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
I think you are acting in good faith, so my apologies for sounding harsh. But changing hundreds of widely viewed pages without some form of central discussion first is always a recipe for complaints. I hope you'll keep that in mind next time. I am surprised more people haven't complained, so perhaps I'm being overly critical. However, I still stand by my concerns for the reasons stated. I said that polices are one click away: ie. click on Community Portal and they're all there. –Moondyne 08:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
O i see what you mean...all good...wish this had all gone better..hopefully our next encounter can be more productive. I am a bold editor and hold firm to the belief that consensus is only needed after a revert and if the talks fail between 2 parties....But i see were my MASS additions could look instructive and will think twice before i go on a huge WikiProject edit again or at least post my intention on relivent pages before i start...Moxy (talk) 08:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for the barnstar, which is much appreciated! Regards, Bencherlite 14:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

NP..... :) Moxy (talk) 14:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Y are you so great!!

Just curious, of course. Best, --Discographer (talk) 22:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

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Y you ask your wife coming to see me????/? LOL :-) Moxy (talk) 00:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

My wife likes Tupperware parties nowadays. Your old lady like Tupperware parties Moxy? My wife is beautiful and hot! Best, --Discographer (talk) 00:42, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Back at ya

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For tirelessly carrying on despite admitting you're "a bit tired"! Ħ MIESIANIACAL 05:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank :) Moxy (talk) 05:11, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

The dash template, war of 1812

Hello Mr. Moxy, you're a riot. Since you won't come to me I'm going to you. I left a message for you on the article. I see you reverted my removal of template:- after See also. Your UP looks as though you must have had reasons. As I almost never see that template, I was wondering why it is in there and if it is still valid. Why do we need it? I would like to know in case I should be using it.Dave (talk) 02:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}....Will not work if the section above it intrudes..So {{-}} or {{clear}} will allow spacing so coding will work...I take it you still use IE to edit Misplaced Pages should try any other browser and you will see the proper outcome. Multiple columns are generated by using CSS3. Too many references can fixed by having columns

Using {{reflist|2}} will create a two-column reference list, and {{reflist|3}} will create a three-column list. Using {{reflist|colwidth=30em}} will allow the browser to automatically choose the number of columns based on the width of the web browser. Choose a column width that's appropriate for the average width of the references on the page.

This issue has been resolved in Safari 5 and Chrome 5. WebKit support will be returned once the usage reports indication a preponderance of adoption.

....Moxy (talk) 03:26, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Re:Maple syrup

Cool, thanks Moxy! Just waiting anxiously right now to see if anyone's going to review it at GAN - it's been a while since I was a nominator instead of a reviewer, and I had forgotten how long it takes! Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 12:42, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

  1. I've got the Maple Syrup review.
  2. Regarding the Food Portal Featured article, please wait until the article has been promoted to GA status before adding it to the list.
--Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 16:03, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Stop

Please do not add random tool links to the bottom of WikiProjects, as you did here and here...and here. They do not belong there and only weigh the page down: we do not want the projects to become conglomerates of hardly-related stuff. Those belong on general reference pages for writers, not on project spaces. ResMar 14:46, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

The Watchlist tool, though, is good (and is the project banner). But I see you've already gone overboard with it...sigh. ResMar 14:48, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your concern and opinion. I am done. Do what you wish with the edits. Pls see User talk:Moxy#Re: Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines - WikiProject Footer + tools I will add your project to the list Moxy (talk) 20:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Janet Discography

Hello, Moxy seeing that you are a part of the Janet Jackson WikiProject, I just wanted your input on this discussion, Thanks! Ga Be 19 04:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 Done..Moxy (talk) 04:33, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

that person

Thought you might want to see this so you have a bit of insight on what we have been dealing with sandbox

Commented here-->Talk:War of 1812#May need a block again "Still concern"...Moxy (talk) 23:40, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

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02:53, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Well deserved

The "Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar" you received is well deserved my friend! -- Mathieugp (talk) 15:25, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much...portal guy  :) ..Moxy (talk) 00:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

urbandale centre no more

The 67's have named the arena the Rona Centre for this season. Rather than change the article placing every year, it seems to make more sense to have the arena redirect to Ottawa Civic Centre, which is what the City of Ottawa calls it. ʘ alaney2k ʘ (talk) 14:45, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Here is the link ʘ alaney2k ʘ (talk) 14:59, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
I am sitting in the Civic center as we speak ..I guess people still call it the Civic center so we should use the common name. I am in the middle of writing a letter to the City about our budget and on my letter head we are still using Urbandale center (until construction is done and a new name is voted on.... .....but like you say Civic center more common. Moxy (talk) 15:06, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
If it changes every year, then it makes more sense just to use redirects. ʘ alaney2k ʘ (talk) 15:13, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Yup your right ....sorry for the inconvenience.Moxy (talk) 15:18, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

War of 1812

I do not think that your two edit to Talk:War of 1812 are appropriate. I think you should revert them, give it week or two week and then archive any section over a week old. -- PBS (talk) 01:37, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

And y do you think that?? nothing was changed and the whole thing is off topic and is a week old??Moxy (talk) 01:39, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Because you were an involved editor, and the consensus is that involved editors should not close off debates using them. Now I fully understand your position that after a week there debate is finished, but I put it to you that given other circumstances you could be vexed if another editor did something similar to what you believed do have been a debate about a valid point on a talk page. -- PBS (talk) 05:13, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
still not sure what the problem is..its not closed or achieved just collapsed. I do this all the time with useless topic's in talk-pages..but reverted anywaysMoxy (talk) 05:19, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

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I am sorry, it slipped out. The watchlist is ok, the tools, eh, well, that's what the recent Signpost article was for. I don't like that you two threw these at the bottom of so many project pages, really; they belong in resources, not at the bottom of project pages. Cheers, ResMar 02:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah, but you've already been "Awesome Wikipedian" and I haven't by a long strike. What exactly do you want to write? ResMar 02:39, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, that is highly ambitious. I recommend you see User:Resident Mario/FA and User:Tony1/Writing exercise box for help. Generally, with GA, what you want to do is write it as if you are writing a Featured article, especially with such large articles. That way, when you get to GA, the commentator would have very little to say. A stop at PR is also recommended. Don't worry, I had my moments too =). ResMar 02:52, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
omg cool never seen those pages..will look them over. Shit sorry talk back on both pages....Moxy (talk) 02:54, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Not a problem. Not a "deal breaker" discussion so having it split isn't that bad =) ResMar 03:00, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

hey, can you just leave the werewolf edited page on until the end of the night. It's not inappropriate it's just a joke and I wanted to post it on my friends wall. You can delete it afterwards-please i'd really appreciate it: its going to be hilarious! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.108.35 (talk) 21:00, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Re Barnstar

Thanks! You're right about Lansdowne Park, but unfortunately it looks like Alaney2k has been doing a good job at keeping everything accurate and sourced, so we can't just cull out the bad bits... I'll certainly keep it on my mind though and see what can be done. Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 21:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Photos!

Hey Moxy, I just uploaded a lot of photos, including some of John Bonham, and Jimmy Page, and plenty more after that. Have a look in Wikimedia Commons --I use the same Username in both places. (I wasn't sure if you wanted to update any of your portals). BTW, are you into making books these days? Just curious. --Leahtwosaints (talk) 11:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

ok lets use them.....will ask the project.....coolMoxy (talk) 14:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Björk

Hey! Be sure to add the WikiProject Björk home/talk page to your watchlist. Hopefully participants can start working on articles and other tasks together! --Another Believer (Talk) 16:00, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

As you wish my lord :)....DoneMoxy (talk) 16:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Image requests

Hi, Moxy. Let's talk about the instructions I left at the New Brunswick project page.

When someone fulfills a photo request, usually he or she uploads it to the Wikimedia Commons. The Commons serves all language Wikis. A New Brunswick image can be used on the English Misplaced Pages and the French Misplaced Pages at the same time. A person who usually posts to the French Misplaced Pages can upload an image to the Commons, and that image can be used on the English Misplaced Pages.

Now, the reason why I posted those instructions is because an image request posted in multiple places tends to get fulfilled faster. French is an official language of Canada, and an official language of the province of New Brunswick as well. It makes sense for people to post New Brunswick image requests on the French Misplaced Pages.

As an example, I had a photograph request for the Continental Micronesia article on EN. I posted the request on the Japanese Misplaced Pages because I knew Japanese tourists frequently visited Guam. A Japanese person ended up fulfilling the request, and his photo is now used on the English Misplaced Pages.

WhisperToMe (talk) 00:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Dont worry i will not revert them all over..just the 2 Canada ones...will let all the individual projects decide if the instructions are at all clear. To me they are not...what list are you referring to in the edits?? and on the talk page(s) - do you mean this Template:WikiProject Canada#Needs photo should be used?? ....thinking this posts are a bit to generic and typos should be fixed before this is attempted all over..anywas GL with this i hope it works out. I will talk to the other porejct members see if we can word it better for newbies and add it back. I will look at all the links and see what wording i can come up with. The concept you discribe above sounds great..we just need to get the post to get the point across. Moxy (talk) 01:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Alright, how is Misplaced Pages:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board/Photo requests ? Now it's a separate page.
It doesn't matter where the instructions go, as long as they go somewhere. If making a separate page makes things better, then I'm okay with it.
For New Brunswick the photo request list is supposed to be in this section Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_New_Brunswick#Photo_requests
One thing that could be explained to newbies is how to link to a page that talks about how to post photograph request templates to talk pages. The request template I had in mind was: Template:reqphoto
However it is also good to use the Template:WikiProject_Canada#Needs_photo command on the template itself!
WhisperToMe (talk) 06:26, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Whisper, what's the point. I suppose adding info regarding uploading to Commons is ok (would creating an actual /Image page not be better?), but the stuff about the Spanish and French uploading is blah blah. You'd do much better porting to a /Image subpage and setting up a real page for it, with tips and image respiratories for use. ResMar 04:06, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
The point is that you want someone to take the picture you want him/her to take. And you post your request in every appropriate avenue. Because images are all shared by the various language Wikipedias, you want to spread your requests across various languages, because the end result is the same.
"You'd do much better porting to a /Image subpage and setting up a real page for it, with tips and image respiratories for use." - Well, each Wikiproject organizes its content differently. I don't care where these instructions are, as long as they are somewhere and easily linked to. So a Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Canada/Images is okay.
And "but the stuff about the Spanish and French uploading is blah blah" - I really don't understand exactly what that sentence is trying to say, or how it meaningfully opposes my rationale.
WhisperToMe (talk) 06:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
It's the English Misplaced Pages, is it not? My problem with cut'n'paste transcriptions is that it doesn't add anything meaningful. All of these tips that are appearing at the bottom of the pages of projects as of late would do much better as a single, separate page, be it a subpage or something standardized at the WikiProject Council. Usually I'd say let the WikiProjects decide, but no one really scrolls around much on them. Btw, you missed one. ResMar 14:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
"It's the English Misplaced Pages, is it not?" - Free images are uploaded to the Commons, and they are used by all Wikimedia projects. However local Wikipedias have image request pages that are for pics that are to be uploaded to the Commons. To let the entire Wikimedia community know, you have to post your request to multiple places.
I suppose "Graphic lab" could be linked to as well, even though it's really for people who already have photos taken but want editing done to them.
What would your common page have? Would it be a "Posting image requests on non-English Wikipedias"?
WhisperToMe (talk) 19:07, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Happy Moxy's Day!

Moxy has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
so I've officially declared today as Moxy's Day!
For being a great person and awesome Wikipedian,
enjoy being the star of the day, Moxy!

Signed, Neutralhomer

A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, click here. Have a Great Day...NeutralhomerTalk04:22, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

OMG thank you so much!!! i dont know what to say... but i real do appreciate this types of things :-) Moxy (talk) 04
26, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
You are more than welcome! :) Keep up the great work! :) Have a Great Day...NeutralhomerTalk04:49, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Nice. ResMar 14:03, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

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You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at Skier Dude's talk page.

Hi

Hi. As an aside from Amerindians anthropology, what is a 'private allele' in autosomes ? Hxseek (talk) 07:11, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Latin music update

Hello Moxy! It's been a while so I thought I would tell you what's going. First, a Latin American song just got GA and as did an album I nominated (hooray! my first ga!) Currently working with Jaespinoza to make Segundo Romance the first FA album. So I want to know, what does this mean in the task force page: "Keep your "parent" informed Whenever your group achieves a milestone or has good news to share, post a note at the parent WikiProject's talk page, and invite others to join you in the next project." Thanks. Magiciandude (talk) 14:41, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Medal of Honor recipients

I noticed your comment but didnt have a chance to reply before you deleted it back off again. First, I welcome any help on the Medal of Honor recipient pages. Theres still about 1000 to create plus a lot of work to build up the existing ones. Please feel free to dig in and I am well aware of pretty much all the resources regarding Medal of Honor recipients including the Army Center of Military History. Thats been my area of primary interest since I started editing. Just so that you know there are a lot of errors on those pages too and I have been actively working with them and with the Naval Historical Center to expand the information provided and fix the problems. If you look at the Individual citation pages for the Medal of Honor recipients (Vietnam for example). Scroll to the bottom and look at the date it was last updated. That will tell you the last time they corrected an error. I provided them a list of about 140 so far (they have fixed about half) and I have another 30 or 40 since. The problem with the ACMH and with the NHC is that in most cases they do not have the Death dates or Burial locations (many dont have bith date or location either). You can get some more info from the Various Medal of Honor books (I have about 120 in my collection including a few others like Chesty puller, lists of American Civil War generals, etc). I also have copies of several of the Books published from the Naval Academy of Alumni as well as individual service records (about 70 with access to several hundred more), ships logs, etc (but I cant use the info here because it constitutes original research). I have in all a 5 shelf bookshelf and 2 4 drawer filing cabinets full of info. Plus I am in DC within a short distance from the NHC, ACMH and the National archives, Smithsonian institute, etc. So if there is info out there I can get it. Thats why I have been so adament about the site. I know, that there are a lot of articles that simply cannot replace the Find a Grave site as a reference. --Kumioko (talk) 15:53, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

After looking at some GA and FA articles you have done i see FAG is only used for grave location. I guess this is ok with other reviewers so i should do the same. I personal ask to changed FAG references when doing GA and/ or FA reviews. But i see that others use it and i guess i wont be has hard on the articles in the future. That said most are able to replace the ref from FAG with other sources. I guess because i do mostly Canadian ones we have more sources available ...that is Canada has dedicated government sites that list every burial site with a great bio. I guess the Americans just dont have this yet. I am currently waiting on reply from FAG about there sources and verifying capabilities.16:01, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I honestly try not to use it but in some cases I just cant get away from it. --Kumioko (talk) 16:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Question are not all Medal of Honor recipient graves taken care of by the government in the USA? I find it odd i see pics of graves all fucked up and neglected. In Canada there is funds and an agency to make sure all graves are well taken care of even from 150 years ago.Moxy (talk) 16:18, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Thats a more complicated question that it seems. When the medal first came out during the Civil War through about WWI no. After about WWI though the current day the government will provide the headstone and pay for the burial if the family chooses, but they are not obligated too. Plus many of the recipients are buried at public cemeteries, buried on their own property, etc. So yes if they are under government control but no otherwise. The congressional Medal of Honor society has been cataloging and replacing them as they are identified, funding becomes available, etc. But it takes time to locate 3500 plus graves and there are still quite a few they haven't located. --Kumioko (talk) 16:25, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Original research policy

Moxy,

Just so you know, it is absolutely impossible for an external website to violate Misplaced Pages's No original research rule. WP:NOR is 100% about what Misplaced Pages editors write on Misplaced Pages. Misplaced Pages editors are not permitted to put things in article unless they have been previously published by someone outside of Misplaced Pages. Outside sources (whether reliable or unreliable) cannot violate NOR.

Consequently, neither linking to Find a Grave nor citing it as a source violates NOR (unless, I suppose, you link to the website and then tell lies about what the website actually says). WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:40, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I guess i was not clear in what i was saying..... I understand the rule only applies to Wiki, but my point was that anyone could edit Find a Grave and add original research at Find a Grave then use that as a referance at wikipidia thus bypassing the wiki rule. PS sorry for any typos i dont have my glasss on.Moxy (talk) 01:00, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, they could do that, and no, I wouldn't be happy about it. However, citing your own published work is not a violation of NOR. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:31, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
Well as a primary source that i guess it would be. I would say its the worst of the worst, thus not to valid and i would never use it as a source.Moxy (talk) 02:40, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Request for arbitration enforcement

Hi, Moxy,

Congratulations on being recognized as an Awesome Wikipedian. Ferahgo the Assassin has opened a thread about my involvement in the race and intelligence articles here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#WeijiBaikeBianji You are mentioned (by user name) as an editor who has observed my editing behavior and who has an opinion about it, but I don't so far see notification on your user talk page about this, so I thought it would be a courtesy to you to let you know that Ferahgo the Assassin's request for enforcement is currently under discussion. On my part, I would consider it your courtesy if you found time in your busy schedule to comment there, and I will read anything you write with great interest. Best wishes for much recognition of your contributions and much personal satisfaction from your volunteer participation in building Misplaced Pages. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 02:01, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to say but i will have to decline the request for arbitration comments. I have looked at the current arbitration and do not think i can help with any further information. I was only involved with an article that you had renamed (here. All i did was simply voice my concern over the renaming and implied that the original title was more neutral. Personal i have not had enough contact with you to voice either concerns or praise on your editing habits.Moxy (talk) 03:14, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
You've been more than kind to reply at all. Enjoy your busyness, and I hope we will increase our acquaintance as Misplaced Pages editors as we both find new, interesting sources on articles of mutual interest. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 03:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Prostitution in Canada

Many thanks for all your help on this article - that was an impressive contribution. This article has come a long way over the last few months! Mgoodyear (talk) 13:26, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Maple syrup

Hi, I am referring to layout as opposed to content. The apple article's layout flows better.--Jeremy (blah blahI did it!) 17:02, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok thats what i though you meant. I will let her look first and see if i can help.Moxy (talk) 22:36, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Divas

Hi Moxy, long time no talk! Anyway, click on this please, and might you read it! Thanks my friend! Best, --Discographer (talk) 23:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi

See also the AfD on Southern California Chinatowns and also Talk:Southern California Chinatowns and note my edits on Chinatown, Los Angeles and Monterey Park, California and removals on List of Chinatowns in the United States#California.Skookum1 (talk) 01:35, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey Moxy, wondering if you can help with something?

Just as we were faced without a decent "free image" to use as the band photo for The Rolling Stones, and you and I came up with the idea to meld the four photos together.. would you be willing to give some of your magic maybe for a couple other band pics? I can't recall the other band offhand, but I'm thinking of West, Bruce & Laing. I made friends with a photographer in Germany who I persuaded to change his old photos to the CC-BY-SA Creative Commons license! I feel like I just found a gold mine.. this kind of thing happens to me only every 5 months or so!! :)) So I uploaded one photo with Jack Bruce and Leslie West, here: and another from the same Flickr photostream of Corky Laing here: - I don't expect you to use just whatever gets thrown at you, but if you follow his photostream link to all the other great shots could you maybe tell me if it's even doable? Thanks for just taking the time to read all this! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 00:12, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

OK i can help, but i would need all the pics up on wiki first. As i have no clue about copyright will work on what you have posted so far. What i can do is copy pic from wiki crop them mix them up and add them back with a copy of the copyright from the images i used. So if you can find pics upload them i will then crop etc...Moxy (talk) 04:19, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

 Done -->File:Jack Bruce Leslie West and Corky Laing.JPG next!!.Moxy (talk) 05:05, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Fabulous!! What a great, wonderful result!! (I just knew there was a reason we occasionally let you off your leash!!) ho ho ho.. :)) --Leahtwosaints (talk) 04:13, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

too advertisement like..

Hi there Moxy - thanks for your note. Will be working to modify the format before continuing on with the project. Appreciate your efforts.

Efmcleanckm (talk) 14:10, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Ambassadors program

Hey! I never heard back from you about the Ambassadors Program after I emailed you to welcome you. Did that message get caught in your spam folder? Anyhow, if you're still interested in being an ambassador, please let me know.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:26, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I have found that i am unable to help, because i do not have specific times i am able to help. I have a very erratic time table for the next 6 months or so. To my understanding set times are needed for this endeavour, and i am simply unable to provide specific times i will be able to help.Moxy (talk) 18:43, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
No, no set times are need, as long as you're checking in on-wiki pretty regularly. I asked for set times for mainly to get an idea of how well we could staff an IRC channel with ambassadors, but IRC is peripheral to what we're doing. The main thing is serving as a mentor to students, keeping up with what they're doing on Misplaced Pages, and pointing them in the right direction. But if you're too busy right now, that's fine... it'd still be great if you can add yourself to the mentors page, under "additional online ambassadors" if you don't want to take on students right now. Then some other term, you can do more if you want. Do reply to that email, if you still want to be an ambassador, though, and I can sign you up for the Google Group. Cheers --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 18:55, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

wikiproject santana

yes please start this page, because i have no experience in editing of wikiproject. thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 16:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

and can you tell me what <nowikiw>Purge=</nowiki> is?-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 16:34, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes you will see that some now have "show another" the <nowikiw>Purge=</nowiki> will make it so this does not shoe up on boxs that have no-other selections.Moxy (talk) 16:36, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

i thought you were off :=)-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 16:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

thank you for that. i try to add a userbox santana :D ?-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 16:59, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: Join us if you wish!

I just joined. Funny, that you asked, I was looking at some of the articles related to Santana last week and seen there were a lot of missing important info and thought I should do something about that. I'm glad to be part of this project, Thanks Garry says OK (talk) 21:06, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thak you for joining...yes the articles need work...i hope to have a few more mebers by the end of the day!!21:36, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey thank you, Moxie, and happy editing to you! Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 07:09, 3 November 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi

:)...Moxy (talk) 07:38, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

follow up on WDL link form

Hello Moxy:

Just wanted to report back that in consideration of your feedback and those you have referred to, we will be changing the external link format for World Digital Library article items and removing the descriptive elements that caused the "advertisement" feel. Thank you for your comments and time. Efmcleanckm (talk) 17:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Recent times

Hey, I did sign up- though I doubt I'll be much help, I do know where to find the pics to help bring it to life, (already all but a couple of the Santana photos are my uploads.. and I'm a half decent copyeditor.. I do know the User:GreatOrangePumpkin and he was not familiar with uploading pics on en.Misplaced Pages, as you can see on my talk page. Hope I can assist. BTW, speaking of photos, I uploaded another of Frank Zappa (I decorated most of his photos too) but this one is "special". Maybe you can add it to the article or portal for him? I added it to the little gallery on my userpage- check it out! :)) --Leahtwosaints (talk) 08:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for signing up..just looks good regardless if you help. PS you should be there anywas because of all the photos you have done already.....:-) Moxy (talk) 18:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Santana

Resolved – You know how to delete this orthography, i.e. if I write "stub", it doesn't go to this category, but if I write "Stub", it goes. maybe you know how to delete this spelling. Thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 18:57, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Can you fix this please? thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

 Done ..pls Template:WikiProject Santana and Template:WikiProject Santana/doc.Moxy (talk) 18:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

thank you for that, but actually i didn't mean this. why no articles go here, even if i rated them. pls fix this. thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 18:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

O i see i think this takes a bit of time because its done by a bot...to be honest i am not sure.Moxy (talk) 18:55, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry

Ciao, i bordi non vanno bene al portale USA. --Dottor Claudio (talk) 16:11, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure what your talking about ...but your edit on the portal looks fine to me!Moxy (talk) 20:27, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Question

What part of bold, revert, discuss do you not understand? At the template, you added the 'outlines' nonsense. That was Bold. I reverted it. Now it is time to discuss the addition of the outlines garbage. What part of that is unclear to you? Please revert yourself and discuss putting that link in the template. I do not understand why this is so difficult for you. → ROUX  01:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

What are you talking about i am not going to revert back to your red linked version! I added the link 6 months ago. So its you 6 months later that did the bold edit and I that reverted you. And you do understand that "BRD" is only a essay. If you have a problem with the page as you clearly do get it deleted do not delink it because you think its crap. Its clear you are attempting to orphan an article that you do not like. Plus you seem not to be-able to edit the temple properly and is another reason i would not revert. So again best you try better and get a better understanding of what a Bold edit is. I see you have had many problems here you realy think this is the way to go again? As you have been told by me and others what your doing and the way your doing it is wrong. Do you understand all this ??

Iron Maiden: Discussion of Album Sales: 70m or 80/100m, or worded to include certified and (as claims) 70, 80, and 100

Hi, if you wish to participate, there is a discussion going on at http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Iron_Maiden#Iron_Maiden_the_truth_about_their_sales_records_.28Ultimate_Discussion.29 with the above proposals for revising the lede's album sales section. ROBERTMFROMLI /CNTRB 02:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

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