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Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
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   To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)

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{{subst:NewDYKnom
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 | author     = User
 | nominator  =
 | image      = Example.png
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 | comment    =
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If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
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	{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

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Older nominations

Articles created/expanded on October 25

Paul Stagg, Amos Alonzo Stagg, Jr.

• ... that legendary college football coach Amos Alonzo Stagg had two sons, Amos, Jr. and Paul, who both played quarterback for him at the University of Chicago and each went on to become football coaches themselves, leading teams against one another at Moravian College and Susquehanna University in 1935 and 1936?

Created by Jweiss11 (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

• Both articles are below the 1500 character minimum.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 08:45, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to see a source for "legendary" – I can't find one in any of the (three) biographical articles linked in the hook. matt (talk) 08:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

How about "Hall of Fame" (i.e. College Football Hall of Fame and Basketball Hall of Fame) instead of "legendary". Jweiss11 (talk) 08:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't see why not. What wording do you suggest? matt (talk) 09:07, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

The Paul article is now long enough, but the Amos Alonzo Jr. article still is not. It shouldn't be hard to resolve that -- for example, there's plenty more good material in this cited source.

As for Stagg, Sr., he is the subject of legend, but alternate wording might be appropriate. I suggest the following alternate hook wording:

• ALT1: ... that the two sons of pioneering college football coach Amos Alonzo Stagg, Amos, Jr. and Paul, both played quarterback for their father at the University of Chicago and became college coaches themselves, twice leading teams against each other? --Orlady (talk) 03:01, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT2: ... that the two sons of pioneering college football coach Amos Alonzo Stagg, Amos, Jr. and Paul, both played quarterback for their father at the University of Chicago, and later led teams against each other as college coaches themselves? --174.89.163.171 (talk) 13:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I like these two alternate hooks. I'm going to see about getting Amos Jr. up to the minimum length. Jweiss11 (talk)

• ALT3: ... that brothers Amos Jr. and Paul Stagg both played quarterback for their father Amos Alonzo Stagg at the University of Chicago, and later led teams against each other as college coaches themselves? (196 chars) Le Deluge (talk) 11:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I substantially expanded the article on Amos, Jr., so both articles should now by ok. Alt 3 looks best to me. Cbl62 (talk) 02:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I suggest giving {DYKmake} credit to User:Cbl62 for more than doubling the length of the article. --PFHLai (talk) 03:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

. Looks good, at last. ALT3 does look best. I've taken the liberty of adding Cbl62 to the "make" credits for Amos Jr. The article now is much longer than 1500 bytes. --Orlady (talk) 03:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Bihar legislative assembly election, 2010 ‎

• ... that the Bihar legislative assembly election, 2010 takes place across 6 phases and over a month?

5x expanded by Lihaas (talk). Self nom at 10:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

• special nomination for November 24 First expansion on date set, and further addition when results are out on Nov. 24.Lihaas (talk) 12:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 27

Clio Awards

• ... that the 1991 Clio Awards presentation is known as "The Most Bizarre Event in Advertising History"?

• ALT1:... that the Clio Awards, which celebrated 50 years in 2009, have been described as the Academy Awards of the advertising industry?

5x expanded by Mgreason (talk). Self nom at 20:19, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

• I'd suggest rewording ALT1 to "...have been described as the Academy Awards of the Advertising Industry", as (unless I'm mistaken from quickly scanning through the reference) they're not in any way connected. matt (talk) 21:20, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

• ALT2: that after the debacle of the 1991 Clio Awards presentation, during which a crowd of attendees stormed the stage and grabbed award statuettes, the 1992 Awards had less than 1/4 the number of entries as the 1990 awards? DS (talk) 14:43, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• Original works best for me, keep it short.Le Deluge (talk) 22:49, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• What do you say about the style of the Clio Awards#1991 section, is that encyclopedic? Also, the small paragraph starting with The event for TV commercials, scheduled a few days later too closely paraphrases the source. --Pgallert (talk) 09:05, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• If that was addressed to me, I'd say the 1991 section isn't great, it could obviously use some work (like most of the article TBH), but it's not fatally unacceptable. And I don't think you can really make a claim for plagiarism for just one sentence.
• The article checks out for length and expansion, some of the referencing isn't great. If you were to tweak "Event" to "Evening" in the first hook, you could source it off the Follis reference, which though bloggy can probably be considered a WP:RS per WP:SPS given that Follis is important enough to merit his own Misplaced Pages article. The Academy Award thing is fine, there seems a bit of doubt over the foundation date though - the Clio website says 1959, the book of the history of the awards starts at 1960. Without access to that book, I'm not sure what's going on there. Le Deluge (talk) 13:10, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 28

Film studies

• ... that film studies are less concerned with filmmaking than with exploring the narrative, artistic, cultural, economic, and political implications of cinema?

5x expanded by Joko123nm (talk). Self nom at 03:04, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• Character count does not show 5X expansion of prose. Count on Oct 19 = 2625 Current character count = 5645 Required for 5X = 13, 125. The Interior(Talk) 02:38, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Please count from the revision of Oct 10, when the creator started to expand the article. I see about 10X expansion from that period. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 18:19, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Unfortunately I can't. DYK eligibility requires 5x expansion in the last five days. Sorry. The Interior(Talk) 18:43, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Please see the subsequent discussion here and here. This being the first article of a new editor, I'd ask for the bureaucratic rules to be waved a little, in a spirit of rewarding newcomers and encouraging them to contribute more to the project. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Bending rules for new editors has got to be good - support. I will promote if approved under IAR Victuallers (talk) 15:30, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

By extending expansion date to Oct. 10, 5X expansion by author is verified. If hook citation is from Ref #1, we need a page number before we can sign off though. Tried to find it, but failed. The Interior(Talk) 17:02, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe

• ... that Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe served as an adjutant to Joseph Goebbels in the Nazi Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda?

Created by Ruby2010 (talk) 17:40, 28 October 2010 (UTC) (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that in 1939, three Icelandic Nazi-sympathizers approached Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe with the hope of making him king of Iceland?

• Adjutant says that it is a military rank, would aide be more appropriate? Also the article uses 'privy councillor', but our Geheimrat article says that this title disappeared after 1919. Mikenorton (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• The source Royals and the Reich (p. 137) says the prince was adjutant to Goebbels, with no mention of military rank. That same source also says he was a 'privy councillor'. If you have the appropriate source, feel free to add mention that adjutant would have been a military rank, but I think further verification would be needed if you were to mention anymore about the title disappearing in 1919. Thanks, Ruby2010 (talk) 04:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Mikenorton - the confusion is that in some armies it's a rank, but in others it's an appointment, a job title if you like, which is performed by someone with the rank of say captain or major. Germany is one of the latter, so the use of adjutant in this case is accurate and appropriate. I think I prefer the idea of a Nazi king of Iceland, how about :
• ALT2 ... that Joseph Goebbels wanted to make his adjutant Prince Friedrich Christian of Schaumburg-Lippe the king of Iceland in the event of a Nazi invasion? Le Deluge (talk) 11:33, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 is a very interesting hook, and it checks out in the online source cited. However, I find that the relevant paragraph in the article is a WP:Close paraphrasing of the first source, which is not acceptable practice at Misplaced Pages. Here's the comparison:

Source: In 1939, three pro-Nazi Icelanders visited a German prince, Friedrich Christian zu Schaumburg-Lippe, and asked him to become the King of Iceland in case their hoped-for German takeover of Iceland materialized. The prince, a member of the Nazi Party since 1929 and an official of the Third Reich, took this request seriously and brought it to Joseph Goebbels. According to the prince's autobiography published in 1952, Goebbels liked the idea but Foreign Minister von Ribbentrop dismissed it.

Article: Three Icelandic Nazi sympathizers visited Friedrich Christian in 1939 and asked him to become king of Iceland, as they hoped that Germany would take over the small island. As the prince earnestly believed that he was on the verge of becoming king, Friedrich Christian took this request quite seriously, and brought the matter to the attention of Joseph Goebbels; the prince would later write in his autobiography Zwischen Krone und Kerker that Goebbels liked the idea but Foreign Minister Joachim von Ribbentrop was against it.

If the close paraphrasing in the article is resolved, this fact should make a very nice DYK hook. I didn't find support for ALT2, since it's not clear that "wanted" to make him king; only that he "liked the idea."

Additionally, the rest of the article needs to be checked for close paraphrasing. Also, sourcing for the Holocaust denial section of the article seems weak. Additional inline citations are needed, IMO. --Orlady (talk) 20:37, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think you're being unnecessarily pedantic, given that we're talking about a hypothetical situation "liked the idea" and "want" are sufficiently synonymous that the more concise version is appropriate for the purposes of making the hook tighter and more effective. People can always click through to the article if they want to look up the exact wording.Le Deluge (talk) 10:23, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• I hope you don't think I'm being "unnecessarily pedantic" regarding the issues of close paraphrasing and sourcing. BTW, I checked the other source cited in the Iceland paragraph and I find that it contains the phrasing "earnestly believed that he was on the verge of being made king." This is looking like plagiarism. --Orlady (talk) 04:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Dan Sane

• ... that American Memphis and country blues guitarist and songwriter Dan Sane recorded with Frank Stokes, billed as the Beale Street Sheiks?

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 10:04, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• Memphis blues can be an interesting topic, but I find nothing in this hook that grabs my attention. I've never heard of either Dan Sane or Frank Stokes, the name "Beale Street Sheiks" is just a name, and there's nothing unusual about two blues musicians working together. I couldn't find anything very hook-worthy in the article, either. It's a worthwhile article, but what makes it worthy of DYK? --Orlady (talk) 20:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Brent Weedman, Douglas Lima

• ... that Brent Weedman was brought in to a welterweight title fight by the AFL, who expected him to lose and "showcase" Douglas Lima's skills, but instead defeated Lima?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 01:30, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• If the wording is a little patchy, then please feel free to suggest an alternative way of phrasing the end of the hook. Thanks. Paralympiakos (talk) 01:31, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• How about "... that Douglas Lima was expected to showcase his skills with an easy victory over Brent Weedman in a mixed martial arts welterweight title fight, but lost?" Clarityfiend (talk) 10:22, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I've just done a mild bit of linking and I'm happy with this. Thank you for the suggestion. Paralympiakos (talk) 11:37, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• Dates, lengths, and hook sourcing check out for both articles. Just to be sure there's no confusion, the "good" hook is the one that Clarityfiend suggested:

• ... that Douglas Lima was expected to showcase his skills with an easy victory over Brent Weedman in a mixed martial arts welterweight title fight, but lost? --Orlady (talk) 04:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Just a comment, the language would be improved by either dropping "welterweight" altogether, or putting it in front of one of the names (probably Weedmans) - having five words describing the noun "fight" is a bit cumbersome. In any case the welterweightness isn't key to the hook, and is discussed in the article. Le Deluge (talk) 10:26, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Venice (musical)

• ... that Time magazine called the Kansas City Repertory Theatre's world premiere of Venice the best musical of 2010?

Created by ESkog (talk). Self nom at 20:44, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• No it didn't, in the article it only mentions "the next major American musical", and the "year's best musical" quote appears to be the invention of a subeditor on the headline, it's not part of the main text. While quite eyecatching, the current hook is a bit WP:ADVERTy to my mind - properly the headline should be "the best musical of the year up until 14 May"!!! Le Deluge (talk) 22:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Well if the nominator isn't going to do this, I'll do the ALT :
• ALT1... that Time magazine called Venice the "next major American musical"? Le Deluge (talk) 11:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Article is only 1046 characters. 1500 is required for DYK eligibility. 28bytes (talk) 03:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 29

Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek

• ... that Czech poet Karel Hynek Mácha first appeared as an actor in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's play Czech and German in July 1832 in Benešov?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:48, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic.Aloysius (talk) 05:49, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Multi-nom ALT added below to Cikáni suggestion. Aloysius (talk) 08:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Travel to Italy (Mácha)

• ... that in his 1834 Diary of Travel to Italy Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha describes his meeting with Slovenian national poet France Prešeren in Ljubljana?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic.Aloysius (talk) 05:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Multi-nom ALT added below to Cikáni suggestion. Aloysius (talk) 08:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Cikáni

• ... that Karel Hynek Mácha's 1835 novel Cikáni celebrates the free lifestyle of gypsies?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic. Aloysius (talk) 05:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Let's have a multi-nom for Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek, Travel to Italy (Mácha) and Cikáni? — Toдor Boжinov — 12:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I have done two others that are under 30 October nominations. Does multi-nom mean they all be in one question? I haven't heard of multi-nom. Thanks. Aloysius (talk) 06:56, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, it's short for a "multiple nomination" - having more than one DYK-eligible article mentioned in a single hook. They're good if you can get them, and the 200-character limit doesn't apply (within reason!). Be nice to have a picture of Mácha to go with the hook? Le Deluge (talk) 22:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• something like this (plus the image above)? (please check my English) multi-nom ALT1... that Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha (1810 - 1836) wrote two diaries? In 1832 Mácha started to act Czech theatre with a role in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's play Czech and German. He met Eleonora Šomková next year when she was asked to join the group of actors by Josef Kajetán Tyl. She became his mistress and fiancée. The Diary of 1835 concerns daily experiences and its cipher parts deal with relationship and sexual experiences with Lori as he called her. He died shortly after their son was born and the funeral took place in Litoměřice on the day of their intended wedding. The Diary of the Travel to Italy describes his hike to Venice, Trieste and Ljubljana where he met Slovenian national poet France Prešeren in 1834. The diaries are good source of psychological background for Mácha's masterpieces, dramtic poem Máj and novel Cikáni in which he celebrates the free lifestyle of gypsies. Aloysius (talk) 08:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• While allowances are made for hooks with multiple nomination being longer than 200 characters (see rule C3), this is much too long. Also hooks are generally a single sentence, although I can't find where it states that in the rules apart from the requirement for the first sentence to end with a question mark. Mikenorton (talk) 13:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Then I would stick to the original versions. They are all about a bit different aspects of Mácha's life. And I don't know who is competent to move them to the Special Occasion section but I hope that they could be published on 16 November when it is 200 years from the poet's birth. Aloysius (talk) 18:37, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've had a go at combining them myself, see what you think. Mikenorton (talk) 19:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Karel Hynek Mácha, author of the 1834 travel book Diary of the Travel to Italy and the 1835 novel Cikáni, got his first acting job, in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German, in Benešov, where he later met his fiancée Eleonora Šomková?

• Thanks for effort, really not bad! Let me try to comb it according to accuracy and importance. Aloysius (talk) 06:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT2 ... that Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha, author of most notable poem Máj and novel Cikáni as well as the Diary of the Travel to Italy and the Diary of 1835 (the cipher parts of which deal with relationship and sexual experiences with his fiancée Lori), got his first acting job in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German? Aloysius (talk) 06:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

  Two comments - you don't need to disambiguate titles with (Mácha) on the end unless there's already an article called simply "Travel to Italy" - which there isn't, and it's best to have articles at the simpler title. Also - is "Travel to Italy" really the common name in English? It implies it's a discussion of the Italian tourist industry as "travel" is a general word, a person would make a "journey to Italy" or "trip" or something, but never "a travel". Sorry for not explaining that the hook can be >200 characters but still as short as possible, here's my effort which is 272 - but it might be nice to insert ", born 200 years ago today," :

  • ALT3 ... that Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha got his first acting job in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German and his writings include the poem Máj, novel Cikáni, diary of Travel to Italy and the Diary of 1835 which deals with his relationship with his fiancée Lori? Le Deluge (talk) 11:04, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

  • Then, I would suggest dividing into two noms for 16 November, one multi-nom and one single nomination:
  • ALT4/1 ... that the writings of Czech national poet Karel Hynek Mácha, born 200 years ago today, include poem Máj, novel Cikáni, diary of Journey to Italy and the Diary of 1835 which deals with his relationship with his fiancée Lori? Aloysius (talk) 19:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
  • ALT4/2 ... that Karel Hynek Mácha got his first acting job in Jan Nepomuk Štěpánek's drama Czech and German? Aloysius (talk) 19:15, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Power Snooker

• ... that Power Snooker (table illustrated) is a new fast-paced, time-limited version of snooker, inspired by Twenty20 cricket, which uses just nine red balls?

5x expanded by MickMacNee (talk). Self nom at 22:50, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• Article is too dependent on www.powersnooker.com and ITV references for my liking. The hook (and the article) are maybe too much like an advert as well. SmartSE (talk) 22:14, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

St Mary's Church, Brentingby

• ... that before the nave of St Mary's Church, Brentingby, Leicestershire, was partly demolished and converted into a house, the wall paintings were removed to a museum?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 16:24, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• Not sure about this. Could you maybe re-word the hook to make it more interesting? - PM800 (talk) 12:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Is this any better?

ALT1 ... that in 1977 the body of St Mary's Church, Brentingby, Leicestershire, was partly demolished and converted into a house, leaving the tower standing.--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Laura Ross (politician)

• ... that Saskatchewan politician Laura Ross was, at various times, a caterer, real estate agent and farmer before her entrance into politics?

5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 16:01, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• Lengths and dates are OK, and I found the hook facts in the source. I have some concerns, however, about the article. The lead section contains some substantial factual information that is not in the body of the article (see WP:Lead section for guidelines on the lead) and is not supported by citations. The first two paragraphs under "Biography" are essentially a creative rewording of her bio on the Saskatchewan legislature website -- the sequence of presentation of information closely tracks the source, but with some details embellished (example: where is it stated in the source that she left the catering business when she went into real estate? -- the article says that she did catering before "her success as a realtor") or omitted (the article mentions fundraising for the Salvation Army, but not for Transition House, the Regina Therapeutic Riding Association, and the Terry Fox Fun , and it does not discuss what she has done in office in the provincial government, which IMO is more significant than catering or the Salvation Army). I'd like to see a more solid article before this goes to the main page. --Orlady (talk) 19:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

John Stirk

• ... that John Stirk played every league game during Watford Football Club's 1978–79 promotion-winning season?

Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 14:35, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• Is playing every game actually uncommon? And if so, is it noteworthy? I can see it if he led the league in goals or something, but this doesn't seem very special. - PM800 (talk) 12:55, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review. My view is that it's not out of line with how remarkable many other hooks at DYK are. Nonetheless, I can think of a couple of possible alternatives. The first would be for me to go back and check whether he played every minute (which would be a subtle difference, but nonetheless a stronger case, particularly when compared to American sports). I'll have access to the source tomorrow. The second would be along the lines of his career progression from 1977 to 2010, but the wording and suitability of a hook along these lines would need to be carefully considered. —WFC— 13:21, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• It's not hugely common, although more so in the past than now - probably most teams would not have had an ever-present like that, and promotion-winning seasons are "special", Watford have only had 7 or so such seasons in a history going back to 1881. So yes, an ever-present in a promotion-winning season is reasonably special. Alternatively, how about :
• ALT1 ... that footballer John Stirk was twice signed by future England managers but spent most of his career in the English Third Division? Le Deluge (talk) 10:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Beeby

• ... that the building materials used in All Saints Church, Beeby, Lincolnshire (tower pictured) are orange ironstone, white ashlar stone, brick, red sandstone, granite and timber?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 11:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• Is there anything that could be used for the hook? Personally, I don't find this particularly interesting. SmartSE (talk) 21:24, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Maybe not interesting but certainly unusual to have as many as six different materials used in one church; I have written some hundreds of church articles, and cannot remember so many different materials in one church; it's usually between two and four. I included the colours where I could (the granite is brown, but I cannot find a suitable reference), because they give the church a somewhat multi-coloured appearance (the image gives a slight idea of that). Another suggestion could be the following, although this may not fulfil the specific citation requirements for DYK:

• ALT1 ... that the use of six different building materials for All Saints Church, Beeby, Lincolnshire (tower pictured) gives it a multi-coloured appearance?--Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Oscar season

• ... that studios release films in the fall, during Oscar season, to have a better chance at winning the Academy Awards?

Created by User:Hongkongresident (talk). Self nom at 08:47, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• I'm pretty sure this hook is already common knowledge. - PM800 (talk) 13:02, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that during Oscar season, studio heads host private parties for Academy members as "friends"?--hkr Laozi speak 16:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• If it's common knowledge, then why didn't I know? Length, creation date, and original hook verified. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 03:40, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Wide Awake in Europe

• ... that U2's upcoming live EP is being released on Black Friday as part of a program organized by the creators of Record Store Day to draw customers to independent record shops?

5x expanded by Dream out loud (talk). Self nom at 04:58, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• (checked using DYKcheck) Meets all of the requirements. --Dylan620 18:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Can we not have a hook that reminds people when an upcoming product will become available for sale, please? This DYK hook may appear to be free advertising on Misplaced Pages's "frontpage" even though this is not the intent. Can we say "... the release date of U2's latest live EP was selected as part of a plan to draw customers to independent record shops?" or something like this?--PFHLai (talk) 20:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

If You're a Viper

• ... that the US army paid for the recording of "If You're a Viper", a song about smoking marijuana, in 1943?

Created by Bali ultimate (talk). Self nom at 21:42, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah. I suggest if ya'll like this, you run it this Tuesday, given Prop 19 in California.Bali ultimate (talk) 21:52, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

• Malformed, and hook not supported by inline citations. --Admrboltz (talk) 22:25, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Yup. Expected so. (The key citation was staring you in the face). Goodbye.Bali ultimate (talk) 22:30, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

"paid for"? Can't find any mention of monetary transactions in the article. How about "invited"? --64.231.54.224 (talk) 03:20, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

All V-Disc recordings were paid for by the army.Bali ultimate (talk) 12:39, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Bali, I don't see anything about the Army paying for the recording of V-Discs in the article. Would you be able to add that? Ed  01:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

The whole V-Disc effort was run by the army. They paid for the sound-engineers, the studio time, for pressing and distribution. I think the musicians generally donated their own time. There's a source already in the article to this effect. I'll duplicate it elsewhere as a favor to you (the whole point of this exercise is that it's an actually interesting hook.)Bali ultimate (talk) 21:27, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

It may be interesting to you, but it is incredibly boring to me. And that is the point. Not everyone will find every hook interesting. What is interesting to some people will not be interesting to others. -Atmoz (talk) 21:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Uhuh. At any rate, done. .Bali ultimate (talk) 21:46, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Length and creation date verified. Hook citation checks out. Seems interesting to me, but I'm from BC. Bali, please check ref 11, as it is dead. The Interior(Talk) 22:55, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Link should work now.Bali ultimate (talk) 23:36, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Two paragraphs are lacking inline citations. These need to be added before it gets to on the main page. SmartSE (talk) 01:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Fuck it.Bali ultimate (talk) 01:34, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

I've sorted out the references. I'm a jazz fan anyway. Interesting article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:37, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to be pain, currently "Strong evidence, however, suggests Sloman is wrong that the tune slipped past the censors and it seems likely the recording didn't become public until after the war." is referenced to amazon.com and I can't see it mentioned in the next reference either, is this OR? SmartSE (talk) 00:12, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 30

Diary of 1835 (Mácha)

• ... that Czech poet Karel Hynek Mácha wrote parts of his Diary of 1835 in code to conceal details of his erotic relationship with Eleonora Šomková?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 06:08, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic. Three were created on 29 October, one more on 30 October. Aloysius (talk) 06:09, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Multi-nom ALT added to 29 October Cikáni suggestion. Aloysius (talk) 08:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• This version approved with the offline source accepted, AGF. Arctic Night 11:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Eleonora Šomková

• ... that Czech poet Karel Hynek Mácha's funeral took place on the day of the intended wedding with his fiancée and mother of his newborn child Eleonora Šomková known as Lori?

Created by Aloysius (talk). Self nom at 05:57, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I humbly ask to move this suggestion to Special Occasion area for 16 November to celebrate the 200th birth anniversary of Karel Hynek Mácha, Czech National poet - I have added four other articles relevant to this important day in the Czech Republic. Three were created on 29 October, one more on 30 October.Aloysius (talk) 06:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Multi-nom ALT added to 29 October Cikáni suggestion. Aloysius (talk) 08:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Article is too short. Articles should be at least 1,500 characters for inclusion at Did You Know. Arctic Night 11:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• I have added some facts to make it long enough. Thanks for caution! Aloysius (talk) 16:16, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Ashleigh Grimshaw, Robbie Olivier

• ... that Robbie "The Flame" Olivier and Ashleigh "The Thunderball Kid" Grimshaw faced off at Cage Rage 27 - Step Up for the Cage Rage British Featherweight Championship?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• The event refs are done, I think, but the nicknames are sourced in the infobox on the right of the article. If the nicknames need to be in the prose, please send me a talk message and I'll sort that out. Thanks. Paralympiakos (talk) 23:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• The hook and the source check out, but I'm not 100% sure on this one. I'm not usually the one saying this, but how 'hooky' is this source, really? If you look through my DYK noms, I'm sure to be the last person you'd expect to say this (although mine are interesting, they're not as interesting as some that I have seen are!). Could you explain what's interesting about this one for me so I can tick it? Arctic Night 12:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Didn't realise we had rules about the level of interest hooks have... Anyway, any fans of MMA will know these two and the organisation, so it'll draw them to these new articles. They also have interesting nicknames that may garner some small interest. Paralympiakos (talk) 13:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Comment: Things put on MainPage are meant for a general audience, not just fans of any particular sports. If there is a hook that would appeal to a wider readership, it would be great. This is not an absolute requirement for DYK, but those hooks that DYK clerks find more "interesting" usually get picked earlier. --PFHLai (talk) 04:45, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Epidemiology (Community)

• ... that despite its high praise by critics, the Community episode "Epidemiology" was the least-watched non-reality component of NBC's Comedy Night Done Right lineup?

5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 19:48, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date are good, but the entire plot section (which is the majority of the article) lacks inline citations. Can that section be sourced? 28bytes (talk) 04:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for dropping by. WP:FILMPLOT says that films (and I assume by extension TV shows) don't have to have their plot summaries sourced. Thanks again! Arctic Night 11:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

List of 1948 Winter Olympics medal winners

• ... that when Barbara Ann Scott won a gold medal for figure skating at the 1948 Winter Olympics, she became the first Canadian win that figure skating award?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 18:40, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• It's not clear from the hook what "first to do so" means. First to win a gold? First to win a gold in figure skating? First to win in 1948? --PFHLai (talk) 20:07, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Clarified. Arctic Night 11:12, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

William Donald Albright

• ... that in 1941, William Donald Albright became director of the Beaverlodge Research Station, the northernmost such station in Canada?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 13:49, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• I'm underwhelmed by that hook. Not only is it boring, but it fails to capture the significance of what this man did. He had started the research station on his own homestead farm circa 1913 or 1914, starting getting paid by the government for doing research there as of 1917, was named research superintendent in 1919, and finally became "director" in 1941 after the government designated his farm as a full-scale research station. When I read this article and the cited sources, I concluded that the article was basically a creative paraphrasing of one source. I found another good reference and expanded/revised the article a bit. Having done all that, I have an alternative hook to offer up for review:

• ALT1... that William Donald Albright homesteaded in Alberta's Peace River region in 1913 and conducted studies there that led to his farm becoming Canada's northernmost agricultural experiment station? --Orlady (talk) 05:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Arctic Night 11:10, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Debye-Hückel theory

• ... that Debye–Hückel theory provides a theoretical explanation for departures from ideality in dilute solutions of electrolytes?

Created by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 13:16, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• It's a redirect. - PM800 (talk) 02:27, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

No it isn't. There was a redirect. I had tagged the old redirect for deletion, but it appears that it is still around, so it seems that there are two files with the same name. Please, admin, sort this out. Petergans (talk) 08:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Please explain. The Debye–Hückel theory redirect is valid and needs no deletion. The Debye–Hückel equation article is neither new nor has been 5x expanded recently. So what is being nominated for DYK? Materialscientist (talk) 08:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

The article is at Debye-H%C3%BCckel_theory: Debye-Hückel_theory
The redirect is at Debye%E2%80%93H%C3%BCckel_theory: Debye–Hückel_theory
The difference is the former has a hyphen in the title, the latter a dash. EdChem (talk) 09:57, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you User:EdChem for finding the problem. I have put a delete request in for the redundant redirect. Debye-Hückel theory is a new article which I have written because Debye-Hückel equation made no mention of where the equation comes from. Petergans (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Ok. I'd love to see this topic on the main page, but these two articles overlap too much. A merger tag may appear any hour. The problem is this nom. might be viewed as futile creation of a new article (for DYK) instead of fixing an old one. Materialscientist (talk) 07:00, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

What's the status here? It looks to me like the two articles might have been harmonized with the intent of allowing them to remain as separate articles. (I must say that I was surprised to see that the topic of Debye-Hückel showed up as a new article this many years into Misplaced Pages's history, but maybe these are two independent articles.) Are they going to remain separate, or hasn't this been discussed? --Orlady (talk) 01:43, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

In my view the article Debye-Hückel equation is wholly inadequate. Reading it, a chemistry student would get no idea of the theory behind the equation. Two articles should remain separate. I could not justify spending more of my time on this topic area. Petergans (talk) 11:39, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Gabriel Acquin

• ... that Maliseet guide Gabriel Acquin claimed to have killed 60 red deer in the space of two weeks?

5x expanded by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• Not an interesting hook in my opinion. And more importantly, it was only Acquin himself who claimed that he killed 60 red deer... that's not really reliable. - PM800 (talk) 07:06, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I agree re. reliable source, so I replaced 'reportedly' with 'claimed to have'. However, I think it's a very interesting hook, considering just how many deer that is... if that's not interesting, I'm not sure what is! Arctic Night 13:10, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Reviewer... are you planning on coming back to this one? Contacted on talk page. Arctic Night 11:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• I still don't think his own claim is enough here. But like I already told you a few days ago, another reviewer should give their opinion. - PM800 (talk) 13:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• The hook is supported by the cited source, but I don't find it nearly as interesting as other aspects of the article topic. For example, I suggest:

• ALT1 ... that after the Maliseet Gabriel Acquin gave the Prince of Wales a ride in his canoe, he was invited to London, where he set up a wigwam in South Kensington?

Also, I note that the article cites only one source. That source looks solid enough, but DYK prefers to have multiple sources. All of other sources I've found for aspects of Acquin's biography appear to be based on the same source the article uses. However, there may be other sources that could be cited in connection with the article's context -- for example, on the history of interactions between the British and native people in New Brunswick. --Orlady (talk) 23:42, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Ken Nicholas

• ... that Ken Nicholas represented England at schoolboy level in both football and rugby?

Created by WFCforLife (talk). Self nom at 06:26, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• I'm sitting on the fence with this one. 1,571 characters is technically long enough from DYK, but if we cut out the lead (which basically restates what the rest of the article already says), that brings us to below that level. For now, I'm going to put a question mark on this one, as allowed by the discretionary provision of the rules, and wait to see if this is expanded. Arctic Night 12:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think the lead is a fair summary of the article, and therefore should remain. But for the purposes of DYK you make a valid point. I'll have access to the source(s) that might allow me to expand the article this evening, and hope to do so this weekend. If I fail to expand it by 00:01 on 8 November (UTC), I'm happy for this to be removed. —WFC— 12:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

The Female Quixote

• ... that The Female Quixote was used as a model by Jane Austen for her first novel, Northanger Abbey?

Created by Clementina (talk). Self nom at 02:27, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• Amazon.com is not a reliable source. This link is a student essay, and also not a reliable source. Enotes.com is a tertiary source, and is of dubious reliability.--hkr Laozi speak 00:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• I did a thorough search for alternatives and none of them quite say what is in the hook, agreed that the two sources you mention are not really reliable. It is certainly clear that 'Female Quixote' influenced Austen in writing her book e.g. , so perhaps that sort of wording could be used instead. Mikenorton (talk) 02:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

18 Galeus articles

• ... that the catsharks of the genus Galeus—G. antillensis, G. arae, G. atlanticus, G. cadenati, G. eastmani, G. gracilis, G. longirostris, G. melastomus (pictured), G. mincaronei, G. murinus, G. nipponensis, G. piperatus, G. polli, G. priapus, G. sauteri, G. schultzi, and G. springeri—have "saws" on their tails?

5x expanded by Yzx (talk). Self nom at 02:50, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• Starting to check these now. SmartSE (talk) 21:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• 5x expansions/new articles are verified. 5 articles: Atlantic sawtail catshark, Gecko catshark, Mouse catshark, Blacktip sawtail catshark and Dwarf sawtail catshark don't mention the saw tails in the descriptions so this needs to be fixed. I'm a bit uncertain about the hook, not sure if you've looked at WT:DYK over the last few days, but things are changing, and I'm not sure if this is deemed to be interesting or not... Personally, any hook with 18 article is amazing, but I'd like to that others agree before giving this a tick. SmartSE (talk) 21:52, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• All the articles mention the presence of the tail crest, and I don't necessarily think the same comparison to a saw needs to be made on all of them if it is referenced in the article Galeus itself as a central character of the genus, though I will change it if it's deemed a severe issue. As for whether it is interesting...I'll leave it to the reviewers to decide whether these articles are worthy of being on the front page. -- Yzx (talk) 22:59, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• SmartSE, if you're waiting for a second reviewer to agree it's interesting enough before approving, I'll volunteer for that position. Feel free to tick this if you're happy with the dates, lengths and sourcing; I agree that fitting these all in one hook rather than separate ones is something to encourage when possible. 28bytes (talk) 04:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Official scorer

• ... that by 1979, The New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and The Boston Globe banned their writers from working as an official scorer for Major League Baseball due to a conflict of interest?

5x expanded by Aaron north (talk). Self nom at 09:42, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

• I couldn't find the part about 1979 in the source (although it's possible I just wasn't looking in the right spot, so if it is indeed in the source you might like to point me in the right direction). Arctic Night 12:51, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• The source was written in 1978. I guess you could therefore also say "by 1978" instead, I just used 1979 since that was the last season of the writer-scorer era. (well that, and I also wasn't sure if one of the papers cited joined in the ban earlier that year, so I went with "by 1979" to be certain I was accurate) Aaron north (T/C) 23:21, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• There have been a lot of small edits to improve the article recently, so just in case someone else quickly comes by to look at this, the article was 5x expanded when the nomination was made on Oct. 30. Aaron north (T/C) 03:38, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

SimplySiti

• ... that all lipsticks from the SimplySiti cosmetic range have names based on the founder's (pictured) hit singles?

Created/expanded by Syfuel (talk). Self nom at 15:52, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Added a picture. SyFuel_Burned 18:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The hook should probably be reworded for clarity. Also, is a picture really necessary for this one? Arctic Night 12:55, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• How about: ... that all lipsticks from SimplySiti founded by Siti Nurhaliza (pictured) is named based on her hits singles? or ... that Siti Nurhaliza (pictured) has designated all lipsticks from her brand, SimplySiti to be named based on her famous singles? SyFuel_Burned 16:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 31

Andrew Cumming

• ... that Major General Andrew Cumming, a British Army officer who served in the Balkans, became Controller of the charity SSAFA Forces Help after leaving the Army in 2004?

Created by HJ Mitchell (talk). Self nom at 22:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

United States Post Office-Lenox Hill Station

• ... that, unlike other Colonial Revival post offices in New York, the Lenox Hill station (pictured) on Manhattan's Upper East Side has two main entrances on either side?

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self nom at 20:22, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

El Chal

• ... that the important ceremonial architecture of the Maya city of El Chal in Guatemala was located some distance from the civic centre of the city?

5x expanded by Simon Burchell (talk). Self nom at 22:18, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Kaplaneios School

• ... that the Kaplaneios School (pictured) in Ioannina, Greece, evolved into the most significant intellectual center of the city through the work of Athanasios Psalidas?

Created/expanded by Alexikoua (talk). Self nom at 16:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District

• ... that Indiana's Gas Boom of the 1880s helped play a pivotal role in the development of the Hartford City Courthouse Square Historic District (map pictured)?

Created by TwoScars (talk). Nominated by Slgrandson (talk) at 04:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1964 Summer Olympics

• ... that two venues of the 1964 Summer Olympics later served as venues for the IAAF World Championships in Athletics?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 13:31, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think this hook is that interesting. - PM800 (talk) 06:08, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree with PM800. Can the water polo story be worked into a hook? --PFHLai (talk) 21:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Peter Tsheehama

• ... that during Peter Tshirumbu Tsheehama's tenure as Chief of the Namibian Intelligence agency the body became informally known as "Tshirumbu's people"?

Created by Pgallert (talk). Self nom at 08:36, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Potential person

• ... that philosophers differ in opinion whether potential future persons have value or not?

Created by Mikael Häggström (talk). Self nom at 04:47, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Boring. - PM800 (talk) 13:15, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Disagree. A rare example of a hook that made me go "whaaattt....???" Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:29, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Philosophers "differ in opinion" about a lot of things. Who cares? - PM800 (talk) 13:10, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Congregation Or Chadash

• ... that Congregation Or Chadash, Chicago's oldest LGBT synagogue, may have been targeted in the 2010 cargo plane bomb plot?

Created by Jayjg (talk), Brewcrewer (talk). Self nom at 03:11, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Alt1: that Congregation Or Chadash, the fifth LGBT synagogue in the United States, may have been targeted in the 2010 cargo plane bomb plot?--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:26, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Alt2: that Congregation Or Chadash, the first American LGBT synagogue to employ a heterosexual rabbi, may have been targeted in the 2010 cargo plane bomb plot?--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 04:26, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Louis J. Roussel, Jr.

• ... that the Louisiana businessman and petroleum industrialist Louis J. Roussel, Jr., began his career in the 1930s as a bus driver in New Orleans?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:00, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Danny van Bergen

• ... that in the 2009 M-1 Challenge Season, Team Benelux's Danny van Bergen was one of only two team members to finish with a positive record?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 01:27, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Supercomputing in China

• ... that, although China has the fastest supercomputer in the world, there are relatively few supercomputers in China, compared to the United States?

Created by History2007 (talk). Self nom at 21:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Everything checks out. Miyagawa (talk) 23:56, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

It's better to have a hook that keeps the focus on Supercomputing in China and not elsewhere. --PFHLai (talk) 17:54, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Actually I specifically used that hook to point out the overlooked fact that there are only a few fast supercomputers in China. The fact that they broke a speed record is all over the news now, but most people are not aware that there are only 3 or 4 main supercomputer sites there, compared to the many in the US. They are making rapid progress in top speed, but significant investment is required to build a large number of sites. History2007 (talk) 00:53, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

While I agree to your last sentence, I have to add that most countries do not have any, let alone 3 or 4 supercomputers, and most people don't know what a supercomputer is. (More people might now know, just because Tianhe-1 got in the news recently.) And, hooks are usually crafted to get people to click and read the article. US superiority is unquestioned, and people should have already heard or read about the world's fastest supercomputer. Let's not have a hook that gives the impression that there aren't new or interesting things in the article to read. Let's keep the focus on supercomputing in China. --PFHLai (talk) 05:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Monika Frimmer, Christa Bonhoff, Dantes Diwiak

• ... that the vocal quartet Monika Frimmer, Christa Bonhoff, Dantes Diwiak and Peter Kooy recorded Valentin Rathgeber's Augsburger Tafel-Confect?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 20:40, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Unfortunately there is no room for the full title, Michael Bednarek just helped to a translation: Augsburger Tafel-Confect, short for Ohren-vergnügendes und Gemüth-ergötzendes Tafel-Confect (Augsburg Table Confectionery, short for Table Confectionery, Pleasuring the Ears and Delightful to the Soul. Augsburg Table Confectionery or even Augsburg Table Candy might replace the German title in the hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Harold King (author)

• ... that the American novelist Harold "Hal" King gained the sobriquet "the crown prince of suspense" with publication of his 1979 anti-Nazi thriller, Closing Ceremonies?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 19:56, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

John Howland

• ... that Mayflower passengers John Howland and Elizabeth Tilley founded one of the three largest Mayflower progenies?

5x expanded by Ishtar456 (talk) Self nom at 18:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Comment: This expansion is NOT 5 fold and I ask that an exception be made. Even though there are only 2.5 Xs more characters in the prose sections of new version than the old, the current version has been substantially rewritten. Although much improvement still remains to be made, the current version is far more informative and readable. The former version was uncited and incoherent. I think that making exception for historically significant figures or events may help encourage editors to tackle these types of improvements, in which the sources are difficult to discern and the research more time consuming. I understand that decisions are done at the discretion of the administrator. If the exception is made, I would also like to request that entry be moved to November 25, Thanksgiving in the USA. --Ishtar456 (talk) 18:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Raymond Kimutai Bett

• ... that Raymond Kimutai Bett set a new race record to win the 2010 Athens Classic Marathon, which celebrated the 2500th anniversary of the Battle of Marathon?

Created by Sillyfolkboy (talk). Self nom at 18:19, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

List of number-one EPs (UK), Hits (The Beach Boys EP)

• ... that extended play Hits by The Beach Boys (songwriter Brian Wilson pictured) spent 32 weeks at number-one in the EP chart?

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 17:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Anti-Fascist Youth Union of the Free Territory of Trieste

• ... that the Anti-Fascist Youth Union did, apart from political activism, organize sports and cultural activities in the Free Territory of Trieste?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 16:58, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

BSA Empire Star

• ... that in 1937 a BSA Empire Star motorcycle ridden by Walter Handley won a race at Brooklands race track with a fastest lap at 107.57mph using alchohol as fuel?

Created/expanded by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 14:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• The cited reference points to a suspended domain. Please find another source, but kindly ensure that it is reliable. Mspraveen (talk) 10:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Cash McCall (musician)

• ... that American electric blues guitarist, singer and songwriter Cash McCall has evolved in musical styles from gospel to soul to the blues?

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 14:33, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Patriarchal Monastery of the Holy Trinity

• ... that the church of the Patriarchal Monastery of the Holy Trinity (pictured) near Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria, has an Ancient Roman pagan sacrificial altar?

Created by TodorBozhinov (talk). Self nom at 14:31, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Henry Arkwright

• ... that, after Henry Arkwright was killed by an avalanche in 1866, his body remained undiscovered for 31 years and, when found, was missing both feet and a head?

• ALT1:... that, after Henry Arkwright was killed by an avalanche in 1866, his body remained undiscovered for 31 years and, when found, his right hand was "marvellously life-like"?
• ALT2:... that amateur cricketer Henry Arkwright once took 18 wickets in a match, the second most ever taken?

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Meyer Foshaug

• ... that Meyer Foshaug held one of the first four seats won by the Labour Party in the Parliament of Norway?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 10:57, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Kind of boring. - PM800 (talk) 11:29, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think it's that bad - sure, it could be a little more exciting, but I don't know if it should be rejected on those grounds. Arctic Night 15:30, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Meets the criteria (date, length, ref) and personally I think it is an interesting hook. He was one of the few people who was early in a small opposition party that later has dominated Norwegian politics since the 1930s. Arsenikk 11:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Looks like a significant election victory. Please consider beefing up Norwegian parliamentary election, 1903 (which says Labour had 5 instead of 4 seats??? Please check & fix as needed.) and including a link in a hook, which says something like:

• ALT:... that the Labour Party never had a seat in the Parliament of Norway until Meyer Foshaug and 4 (/5???) others won in the 1903 elections?

--PFHLai (talk) 18:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Henry Scott

• ... that executioner Thomas Henry Scott was fired for being with a prostitute on the night before a hanging job?

Created by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 07:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• A bit negative, perhaps?

• The hook is fine because the person is long dead. However, I don't think this should run unless it's expanded significantly. Christopher Connor (talk) 12:00, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• Just for the record, the article was long enough when I nominated it; but then Christopher Connor cut it down by a lot. - PM800 (talk) 12:23, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

• 916 characters now, is anything going to be done to change this? SmartSE (talk) 21:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I'm going to try to do some work on it soon. - PM800 (talk) 17:02, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 1

Sir John Fagg, 1st Baronet

• ... that John Fagg, MP for 56 years in the Commonwealth and under King Charles II, was famous for his bullocks?

Created by Boleyn (talk). Nominated by Motmit (talk) at 19:57, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• The source just says that he "was breeding bullocks"; it doesn't mention him being "famous" for them. In addition, the article does not meet the length test because the blockquote is not counted. - PM800 (talk) 22:00, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Well Daniel Defoe refers to him as famous and dedicates three paras solely to his bullocks, and the primary source of British History specifically mentions the bullocks, but if you prefer we could say he "had prodigious bullocks." Thank you those who have expanded the article prodigiously. Motmit (talk) 11:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• alt 1 ... after visiting Sir John Fagg in 1697, Daniel Defoe wrote of Fagg's prodigious bullocks, "I never saw any thing like them"? Cbl62 (talk) 03:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• alt 1 length, date, and hook checked. - PM800 (talk) 06:46, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Health Security Express

• ... that the 1994 Health Security Express bus tour experienced technical difficulties, including an overheating bus?

Created by Fetchcomms (talk). Self nom at 21:13, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, and hook checked. - PM800 (talk) 21:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Frederick James Gould

• ... that the writer Frederick James Gould (pictured) became a prominent agnostic and pioneering secular humanist despite having studied theology with "devout fury" during his youth?

Created by Ghmyrtle (talk). Self nom at 15:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Note: Article created on 1 November, but then removed for copyvio (resolved here) and re-created on 5 November. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Reorganization Plan No. 3

• ... that Richard Nixon (pictured) unilaterally created the United States Environmental Protection Agency with Reorganization Plan No. 3?

5x expanded by Gsrogers (talk). Nominated by The ed17 (talk) at 19:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Lengths and dates are OK and the substance of the hook fact checks out OK. However, I have a mild concern that the neither the word "unilateral" nor the word "unilaterally" is in the article. Here's my suggestion for alternative wording:

• ALT1... that the creation of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency was ordered by Richard Nixon (pictured) in Reorganization Plan No. 3? --Orlady (talk) 04:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

2003 Eastern Michigan Eagles football team

• ... that after giving up six turnovers against Navy in the fourth game of the 2003 season, Eastern Michigan head coach Jeff Woodruff commented, "You can’t beat a high school team giving up five turnovers"?

Created by Cmadler (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Sorry, it's a little bit awkward to fit the article title into a hook. Feel free to reword or suggest a different hook. cmadler (talk) 17:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Operation Almenrausch, Peder Furubotn, Roald Halvorsen, Ørnulf Egge

• ... that most leading communists hit by the Nazi Operation Almenrausch in 1944, including Peder Furubotn, Ørnulf Egge and Roald Halvorsen, survived?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: Please hold this for some days, as more articles will be added. Geschichte (talk) 23:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Bolded Operation Almenrausch, after expansion. Oceanh (talk) 22:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

National Federation of Discharged and Demobilized Sailors and Soldiers

• ... that the National Federation of Discharged and Demobilized Sailors and Soldiers, a forerunner of the Royal British Legion, was founded in opposition to the re-conscription of men injured during World War I?

Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self nom at 10:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Might be good for 11 November (Remembrance Day). Warofdreams talk 10:24, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Little Fluffy Gigolo Pelu

• ... that the alien hero of Little Fluffy Gigolo Pelu was inspired by the lovelorn wanderer Tora-san?

• Comment: Please note that the article was initially created with copyright violation problems, but was rewritten to remove them. --Malkinann (talk) 02:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by KrebMarkt (talk). Nominated by Malkinann (talk) at 02:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Mandy Sellars

• ... that, because of a lifelong medical condition that may be Proteus syndrome, Mandy Sellars' legs and feet weigh about 210 lb (95 kg), while her upper body only weighs about 84 lb (38 kg)?

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1968 Winter Olympics

• ... that Canada's Nancy Greene had a headache for two days after the electronic stop clock fixed itself after a malfunction at the alpine skiing women's giant slalom event venue at the 1968 Winter Olympics?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 15:08, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Rand Schrader

• ... that after AIDS activist and former Los Angeles Municipal Court judge Rand Schrader died in 1993, his partner David Bohnett founded the GeoCities website?

Created by Billyboy01 (talk). Self nom at 08:10, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1:{*mp}}... that after AIDS activist Rand Schrader died in 1993, his partner David Bohnett founded the GeoCities website using the benefits from Schrader's life insurance? DS (talk) 01:54, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Tønsberg FIK

• ... that Norwegian skier Anders Aukland has also won Norwegian championship medals in athletics, for the club Tønsberg FIK?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 23:24, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Abingdon Boys School discography

• ... that Abingdon Boys School, a band that shares a name with a school formerly attended by members of Radiohead, has contributed music to anime such as Darker than Black and Soul Eater?

Created by NocturneNoir (talk). Self nom at 17:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• It doesn't have enough characters of prose, and it's not a new article. - PM800 (talk) 05:31, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Would have appreciated a notification; I feel quite lucky I checked this page out of paranoia considering I would not have found out otherwise. I've eked out a bit more prose to round it out at 1,500 characters, which should be sufficient. Further: the rules state, and I quote, "Articles that have been worked on exclusively in a user or user talk subpage and then moved (or in some cases pasted) to the article mainspace are considered new as of the date they reach the mainspace." I see no reason this should fail DYK criteria. ɳOCTURNEɳOIR 23:16, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

PageMove out of userspace confirmed for Nov. 1st. PM800 probably just missed that one line in the edit history. Pls re-review. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 20:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Bert Perrigo

• ... that Bert Perrigo was a British engineer and designer for BSA motorcycles where he developed the BSA Blue Star range in the 1930's and was paid one half penny royalty for every motorcycle sold?

Created by Thruxton (talk). Self nom at 16:29, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• (alt.hook)... that British engineer Bert Perrigo helped develop the BSA Blue Star motorcycles (example pictured) in the 1930's and was paid one half penny royalty for every motorcycle sold? --PFHLai (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Wednesbury unreasonableness in Singapore

• ... that a classic hypothetical example of the Wednesbury unreasonableness doctrine in administrative law, which applies in Singapore, is a public authority dismissing a teacher because of her red hair?

Created by Bbilltang (talk), Doreenchia (talk), Fazlina.2008 (talk), Liruwong (talk), Pinkturtlehair (talk) and Smuconlaw (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 08:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think the picture is inappropriate to use in both the hook and the article unless she has anything to do with the actual dismissal case. Geschichte (talk) 23:25, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

No, the person in the photograph doesn't have anything to do with the dismissal case because it is not a real dismissal case. It is a hypothetical case given as an example in a well-known English case (Associated Provincial Picture Houses v Wednesbury Corporation). If it would make things clearer, I am happy to change the hook to read "... classic hypothetical example ..." — SMUconlaw (talk) 09:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

House (1977 film)

• ... that director Nobuhiko Obayashi purposely made the special effects in the horror comedy film House look unrealistic?

5x expanded by Andrzejbanas (talk). Self nom at 03:33, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

American democracy promotion in the Middle East and North Africa

• ... that the American government and advocates of political reform have been increasingly promoting democracy in the Middle East and North Africa since September 11, 2001?

Created by Ya7abibi24 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 03:15, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

• Article meets the length and date tests, AGF on offline source; however, I don't think this is a good hook at all. Maybe you could write one that has more substance? - PM800 (talk) 13:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

(Ya7abibi24 (talk) 22:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)) Does this hook look better? Thanks so much for taking a look!

I.G.Y. (What a Beautiful World)

• ... that Steely Dan singer Donald Fagen's only Billboard Top 40 hit as a solo artist was "I.G.Y. (What a Beautiful World)", a song inspired by the International Geophysical Year of July 1957–December 1958?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 02:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Wallkill Valley Rail Trail

• ... that in 1986, Conrail sold 11.5 miles (18.5 km) of a former rail corridor, including a 940-foot (290 m) bridge, to a private businessman for only $1.00?

5x expanded by User:Gyrobo (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 2

Berliner Helicopter

• ... that an early example of the Berliner Helicopter was speculated as having potential as a "flying torpedo" to be used to hold cities for ransom?

Created by FlugKerl (talk). Nominated by The Bushranger (talk) at 03:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Jacques Bellange

• ... that the "secretive character" of the Beggar Looking through his Hat (pictured) attributed to the 17th century artist Jacques Bellange may have appealed to a former owner, American KGB spy Michael Straight?

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 03:03, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• An opinion of course, but one stated by the Walters Art Museum in Baltimore who now own it. Johnbod (talk) 03:03, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Monte Titano

• ... that Monte Titano (pictured) is the highest peak of San Marino and is part of a UNESCO World Heritage Site?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 20:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 11:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Charles B. Carter

• ... that Maine Senator Charles "Babe" Carter (pictured) was known for his agility, nerve and "wonderful handling of his massive frame" as a football player in the early 1900s?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

1907 Kingston earthquake

• ... that in the immediate aftermath of the 1907 Kingston earthquake, the passenger steamer Port Kingston was used as a hospital with three improvised operating theatres?

• ALT1:... that in the aftermath of the 1907 Kingston earthquake the Governor of Jamaica refused an offer of eight surgeons from three United States warships?

5x expanded by Mikenorton (talk). Self nom at 21:44, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Both hooks are good. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 22:41, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Butchers Wheel

• ... that Butchers Wheel (pictured), a cutlery and tool factory in Sheffield, could only be accessed through a single, guarded door?

Created by Warofdreams (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Slavic-Italian Anti-Fascist Union, Free Territory of Trieste municipal election, 1949

• ... that in the 1949 municipal election in the Free Territory of Trieste, the communist-led Slavic-Italian Anti-Fascist Union won 97% of the votes in Monrupino?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Pratt-Yorke opinion

• ... that mis-transcribed versions of the Pratt-Yorke opinion (Pratt pictured) of 1757 were circulated in British North America by opponents of the Royal Proclamation of 1763?

Created by Savidan (talk). Self nom at 21:21, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Religion in San Marino

• ... that religion in San Marino is predominantly Catholic (inside a catholic church pictured)?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Hongkongresident (talk). Self nom at 21:45, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• This proposed pic looks more like a well-staffed medieval daycare centre. The inside of Catholic churches in San Marino today doesn't resemble that at all, I'm afraid. --PFHLai (talk) 05:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Candide ou l'optimisme du XXe siècle

• ... that Candide ou l'optimisme au XXe siècle is a French comedy drama film from 1960, based on Voltaire's satiric novel Candide, ou l'Optimisme, and set in the World War II era?

Created by Leszek Jańczuk (talk). Self nom at 19:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Edward William Archibald

• ... that despite the mental demands of his profession, Edward William Archibald, considered Canada's first neurosurgeon, was described as a "distressingly absent-minded character"?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 17:39, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

The Listeners (novel)

• ... that James Gunn's 1972 science fiction novel The Listeners was proposed as an unrecognized classic in the field by New Scientist magazine in November 2010?

5x expanded by Tim1965 (talk). Self nom at 16:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Everything checks out. 28bytes (talk) 02:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• The plot summary seems very long for the overall size of the article. It should be trimmed before the hook is promoted. –Grondemar 04:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Duke Henderson

• ... that the American blues shouter and jazz singer Duke Henderson, latterly broadcast as a minister and gospel DJ?

Created by Derek R Bullamore (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Joseph Miranda

• ... that Joseph Miranda once had his life saved by Sam DeCavalcante after robbing another mobster?

Created by 72.74.200.136 (talk). Nominated by Fetchcomms (talk) at 01:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go. Leszek Jańczuk (talk) 01:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

English grammar - "...after he had robbed..." Philg88 (talk) 06:46, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Dan River (China)

• ... that China's Dan River is the longest tributary of the Han River, itself the longest tributary of the Yangtze River, the longest river in Asia? and third longest in the world?

Created by Philg88 (talk). Self nom at 02:06, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Better without "and third longest in the world". Save this for a hook about the third longest tributary of the Yangtze River.... --174.89.163.171 (talk) 04:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

• Just to clarify, the Yangtze is the third longest river in the world - that fact has nothing to do with tributaries. Philg88 (talk) 22:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

I know. Your hook has "the longest ___" three times, and following up with "(Ooops) but it's not the longest ___ here" makes the hook look clumsy. Save "the third longest ___" part for another hook (perhaps about another tributary which may be third longest ___ of....) --174.89.163.171 (talk) 13:32, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

OK, I have no problem dropping "and third longest in the world" Philg88 (talk) 00:34, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Peter Lumsden

• ... that General Sir Peter Lumsden accompanied a special military mission to Kandahar with his older brother, Sir Harry Burnett Lumsden?

Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Expansion, self nom:

Menara Kudus Mosque

• ... that Menara Kudus Mosque is the only mosque in Java known to have a Majapahit-style Hindu drum tower?

5x expanded by Merbabu (talk). Self nom at 13:24, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Current nominations

Articles created/expanded on November 3

Aimerico Manrique de Lara

• ... that the troubadour Peire Rogier addressed a poem to Aimerico Manrique de Lara, Duke of Narbonne (1172–77), encouraging him to live up to his illustrious Spanish lineage?

Created by Srnec (talk). Self nom at 06:25, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Marv Rackley

• ... that, in 1946, Marv Rackley was hired by his teammate Jackie Robinson to play for the "Jackie Robinson All-Stars"?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 05:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Linx (railway company)

• ... that Linx cited competition from low-cost airlines for terminating their Oslo−Stockholm train service?

5x expanded by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Bzyb River

• ... that Soviet President Nikita Khrushchev once proposed a major dam on the Bzyb River (pictured) but dropped the idea in favor of Inguri instead when he learned it would affect the beach of his favorite resort of Pitsunda?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 10:58, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 11:40, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Norman Sterry

• ... that Los Angeles attorney Norman Sterry (pictured) represented the New York Yankees in a landmark U.S. Supreme Court case that upheld an exemption from the antitrust laws for Major League Baseball?

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 05:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Abrskil Cave, Otap, Abrskil

• ... that a cave near Otap is named for and linked to a legend involving the Abkhazian hero Abrskil?

5x expanded by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 13:17, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Bias in Singapore

• ... that Singapore law on whether a decision-maker is affected by apparent bias is based on the premise that "justice should not only be done, but should manifestly and undoubtedly be seen to be done"?

Created by Siauderman (talk). Nominated by Smuconlaw (talk) at 08:38, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Four Price

• ... that one of the new Republican members of the Texas House of Representatives is known as Four Price because he is the fourth generation of his family to bear the name "Walter Thomas Price"?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 03:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT: =... that Four Price, one of the incoming Republican members of the Texas House, has vowed to be the "voice of the Panhandle" in his state's legislature?

• Fn. 1, which is cited after the hook fact in the article, is the web site for Price's campaign. Not sure that's a proper source, and in any event the linked page doesn't say anything about him being the fourth generation to bear the name. Cbl62 (talk) 05:30, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Also, there is a message on the creator's talk page from CorenSearchBot indicating that a web search indicates the contents of this article appear to include material copied directly from http://www.conservapedia.com/Four_Price. Creator states on his talk page that the referenced site copied the wikipedia article in a prior iteration in July 2010. This issue also needs to be resolved before the article can be promoted. Cbl62 (talk) 05:39, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Further review of the conservapedia article shows that BHathorn (presumably same as the creator here) wrote the article on that site in July 2010. He has now copied the article verbatim onto Misplaced Pages. Not sure how that fits with DYK "new" content requirements and copyvio issues. Thoughts? Cbl62 (talk) 05:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Even if the copying from conservapedia does not disqualify the article based on "newness" standards, there remains a lack of in-line citation for the hook fact in the three days since the first comments were noted. Cbl62 (talk) 20:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Vladimir Guerrier

• ... that in the 1870s Russian liberals like Gerrier (pictured) and Chicherin accused Karl Marx of being narrowly concerned with the proletariat and indifferent to the entrepreneur's "psychic labour"?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 00:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date both fine. And a nice article too. But the hook fact isn't precisely supported by the excerpt from Kingston-Mann's book. The passage from the book doesn't say that Guerrier himself made the accusation, but rather that liberals of his ilk did: "In the 1870s, when Russian liberals like Chicherin, V.I.Guerrier, and Iu. Zhukovskii accused Marx of being 'narrowly' concerned for proletarians and indifferent to the far more significant 'psychic labor' of the entrepreneur .." Can you clarify this? Cbl62 (talk) 05:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

You're right, I've edited the hook. Moonraker2 (talk) 06:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

All good now. Cbl62 (talk) 01:18, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Hangar One (Los Angeles, California)

• ... that Hangar No. 1 (pictured) was constructed as Los Angeles International Airport's first building in 1929?

5x expanded by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• alt 1 ... that Hangar No. 1 (pictured), once used by Charles Lindbergh, was built at Los Angeles International Airport when it consisted of a dirt landing strip in the middle of bean and barley fields? Cbl62 (talk) 05:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• The credits were messed up, crediting User:User. It looks like this was a self nom by Bobak, and I've so reflected in the credit template. If that is in error, please adjust. Cbl62 (talk) 05:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Whoops! I was in a hurry at the end, thanks for the correction --and the Alt 1 looks a lot better. --Bobak (talk) 18:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Lynching of Ell Persons

• ... that Ell Persons, an African American man, was lynched and burned alive in 1917, "putting this Negro out of the way in up-to-date fashion"?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 22:30, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment: A nice alternative hook might be to mention the initial investigation relying upon an image of Persons supposedly being visible in a murder victim's pupils after her death, but I can't quite manage to turn it into a coherent hook. (Maybe mention the year as well.) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Is there anything particularly wrong with this hook? I added the date; it only increased the character count slightly. Christopher Connor (talk) 00:17, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Arne Wam

• ... that Arne Wam was responsible for stopping the Norwegian State Railways from turning all seats to the trains forward direction?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 21:55, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• The hook is somewhat difficult to understand. ALT: ... that Arne Wam, as director of the Norwegian State Railways, ended the practice of turning all seats in whatever direction a train was facing? Geschichte (talk) 23:53, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, that sounds a lot better. Arsenikk 23:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Ådalen Line

• ... that the Ådalen Line of Sweden will be upgraded to become part of a high-speed railway corridor between Stockholm and Umeå?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date check out, AGF for non-English hook source. 28bytes (talk) 02:41, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Machias (1777)

• ... that Maliseet, Passamaquoddy, and Penobscot Indians participated in the Battle of Machias on August 13–14, 1777?

Created by Magicpiano (talk). Self nom at 21:26, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that in the 1777 Battle of Machias a British amphibious assault seized stores of flour, rice, corn, shoes, and ammunition but was driven off by United States forces assisted by Maliseet, Passamaquoddy, and Penobscot Indians?
• ALT2 ... that it was said of the 1777 Battle of Machias by John Allan that "not an Action during the War Except Bunker Hill there was such a slaughter" even though the British claimed they suffered only 3 dead and 18 wounded?

--Demiurge1000 (talk) 07:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed links in the ALTs, and qualified action by year; otherwise ALTs look good to me too. Editors wishing to verify should note that most of the source pages for this article are accessible through Google Book preview. Magic♪piano 16:33, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

St Michael's Church, Stretton en le Field

• ... that the chancel arch in St Michael's Church, Stretton en le Field, Leicestershire, appears to be made of stone, but it is made of wood covered with stucco, giving it the appearance of stone?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:25, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Move to prep area 4

Breiðamerkurjökull and Höfn

• ... that Breiðamerkurjökull (pictured), an outlet glacier of the larger glacier of Vatnajökull, can approached from the fishing town of Höfn?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 08:45, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• I don't think this hook would be interesting to enough people for the English Misplaced Pages front page, but that's just my opinion. - PM800 (talk) 05:13, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Berl Katznelson

• ... that Labor movement activist Berl Katznelson fell ill and suffered a severe spiritual crisis after trying his hand at physical labor?

5x expanded by Sreifa (talk). Self nom at 08:48, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• Major copyvio concerns. Sources have been copy and pasted without even minor attempts at paraphrasing. Article may have to be deleted. The Interior(Talk) 17:47, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Lee-Hamblin family

• ... that J. David and Inez Hamblin Lee have had four great-grandchildren elected to the U.S. Senate from four different states?

Created by Politicalprojects (talk). Self nom at 08:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• It's a nice hook and an interesting fact, but it falls considerably short of the required 1,500 bytes of text. Can you find more information to expand further? Cbl62 (talk) 02:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
• It also lacks reliable sources. --Orlady (talk) 20:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Canfield-Wright House

• ... that the Canfield-Wright House (pictured) was built for an oil tycoon who developed Beverly Hills and Del Mar, California?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 06:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Faya (band)

• ... that R&B group FYA were discovered singing at a youth centre in Slough and went on to be signed to a six-album deal with Def Jam Recordings?

Created by A Thousand Doors (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

United Trade Unions of the Free Territory of Trieste

• ... that the communist-led United Trade Unions led a series of political strikes against the Allied Military Government in the Free Territory of Trieste?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 01:42, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Sex, Slander, and Salvation

• ... that Sex, Slander, and Salvation was published just before David Berg's death and the Love Charter's reorganization of the Family International?

Created by ResidentAnthropologist (talk). Self nom at 17:57, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

• This article had not been created or expanded five times in the previous five days. - PM800 (talk) 05:06, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

its been moved to the mainspace in the last five days So it is considered created as of when it is moved out of user space

• OK, sorry about that. - PM800 (talk) 07:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

No worries :-)The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 15:16, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 4

Pancartes

• ... that historian Marjorie Chibnall states that the medieval historian Orderic Vitalis used now lost pancartes of various Norman monastic houses as sources for Orderic's historical writings?

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 17:09, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

North Bothnia Line

• ... that the proposed North Bothnia Line will allow high-speed trains to travel from Stockholm to Luleå Central Station?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:52, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Coast-to-Coast Line

• ... that the Coast-to-Coast Line was created in 1941 when the Swedish State Railways nationalized five railways that connected Gothenburg to the East Coast?

Created by Arsenikk (talk). Self nom at 22:46, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60

• ... that Bach composed in his cantata O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60 four dialogues, three of Fear and Hope, one of Fear and the Voice of Christ?

• Comment: This is meant to appear on 14 November, the 24th Sunday after Trinity for which it was written.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 16:21, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1968 Summer Olympics

• ... that all four football venues at the 1968 Summer Olympics would be used as FIFA World Cup stadia when Mexico hosted the Cup in 1970 and 1986?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 15:11, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Kasteholm Castle

• ... that before becoming king, Gustav I of Sweden enchanced the structure of Kastelholm Castle (pictured) as he used the location as a hunting ground?

5x expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 10:43, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 11:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Åland Museum, Åland Maritime Museum

• ... that in Mariehamn, the Åland Museum contains a boat made of seal skin dated to the Stone Age whilst Åland Maritime Museum contains a ship named the Pommern (pictured), dated to 1903?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Added an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 11:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Andhra Pradesh Housing Board

A portrait of a middle-aged man with a yellow turban, a white sash from his right shoulder running across his chest and medals adorning his black Nehru jacket

• ... that Hyderabad-based Andhra Pradesh Housing Board, which was formerly known as City Improvement Board, was conceived by Nizam Osman Ali Khan, Asaf Jah VII (pictured) in 1911?

Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 08:56, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Creation date and length verified. Hook citation is good. Hook might need a tweak for interest factor though. The Interior(Talk) 21:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Andreas Pruys

• ... that in Bach's St John Passion in the Philharmonie Luxembourg, Christoph Prégardien was the Evangelist and Andreas Pruys sang the words of Christ?

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Babe Borton

• ... that first baseman Babe Borton bribed opponents so that his team could win the 1919 Pacific Coast League championship?

5x expanded by PM800 (talk). Self nom at 02:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook reference check out. I've removed the stub tags from the article's talk page. 28bytes (talk) 03:06, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

List of first overall NBA Development League draft picks

• ... that Nick Fazekas, the number one overall selection in the 2010 NBA Development League Draft, was a D-League All-Star before he was even picked?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 00:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Confederazione dei Sindacati Unici Classisti del Territorio libero di Trieste

• ... that it took the Titoist trade unionists in the Free Territory of Trieste over two years to form their own confederation, after the Soviet-Yugoslav split of 1948?

Created by Soman (talk). Self nom at 00:30, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• If you disregard the various translations in the article, there are less than 1,500 characters. - PM800 (talk) 04:58, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Since when are translations not counted as part of the prose? It is not mentioned neither in WP:DYK nor Misplaced Pages:Did_you_know/Additional_rules#Additional_article_length_rules. --Soman (talk) 05:07, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• The rules state: "In practice, articles longer than 1,500 characters may still be rejected as too short, at the discretion of the selecting reviewers and administrators." - PM800 (talk) 05:49, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• On the other hand, this is probably the sole Titoist union in the world ever to exist outside of Yugoslavia (which, if it could be sourced, would have made a great DYK hook) and thus a quite unique political phenomenon. --Soman (talk) 20:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Cockfield F.C.

• ... that Cockfield Football Club, from the tiny "two-street pit village" of Cockfield, County Durham, was dubbed the "Village Wonder Team" after reaching the semi-finals of the FA Amateur Cup in 1923?

5x expanded by ChrisTheDude (talk). Self nom at 22:26, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Americanization School

• ... that the Americanization School (pictured) in Oceanside, California was built as part of historic assimilation programs aimed at Spanish-speaking immigrants?

Created by Bobak (talk). Self nom at 22:13, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Vic Tandy

• ... that Vic Tandy was the first researcher to link infrasound and ghosts together?

Created by Panyd (talk). Self nom at 21:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

BredoLab botnet

• ... that Dutch law enforcement officials used the BredoLab botnet against itself, by forcing it to send a warning to the 30 million computers it infected?

Created by Excirial (talk). Self nom at 21:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1: ... that the BredoLab botnet infected over 30 million computers with a Trojan Horse, which makes it the largest botnet in history?

• The first suggestion is mainly an attempt to evade another "Largest botnet" focusing DYK hook, since i already submitted a few article's before using that "did you know" structure. Also, if anyone has a spare minute to proof-read the article, i would appreciate it. Seeing i have been multitasking writing and researching the subject, i just know there must be some more grammar issues here and there. Excirial 21:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

The first hook is good, but can we be sure the message was sent to all 30 million computers? There are some bare urls as references, which need to be fixed as well. SmartSE (talk) 00:45, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Well, the answer to that is no. According to one of the sources, the message has been displayed on around 100.000 machines so far, and about 55 people decided to file a complaint based upon it. Keep in mind that the nature of a botnet is secrecy and distributed computing against ones will, which means that most information relies on estimates - even when command over a botnet is taken over (Bots are added and removed all the time after all).

The 30 million part in the hook was mainly intended to incorporate the botnets size in the hook, in a non-intrusive and compact way. My intention was to mention that the botnet has been instructed to forward the message to all its zombies - Of that we can be certain, and there is reliable sourcing for that. The hook could probably be altered to reflect that this was an instruction, and not an accomplishment. Perhaps "by redirecting the 30 million zombie computers it controls to a webpage, in an attempt to warn the owners of the machines that it was infected"? Excirial 18:41, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

The Calling (Yes song)

• ... that the lyrics of Yes's last top-ten rock hit "The Calling" were inspired by singer Jon Anderson's concept of "local history"?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 18:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Fowey Lifeboat Station

• ... that Fowey Lifeboat Station was opened in the nearby village of Polkerris in 1859, and was not moved into the town of Fowey itself until 1922?

Created by Geof Sheppard (talk). Self nom at 17:02, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

St Mary Magdalene's Church, Battlefield

• ... that St Mary Magdalene's Church, Battlefield, Shropshire, (pictured) is built on the site of the Battle of Shrewsbury that took place in 1403?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:41, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Hamersley & Robe River railway

• ... that, with 1,300 kilometres (810 mi) of track, Rio Tinto's Hamersley & Robe River railway is the largest privately owned heavy freight rail network in Australia?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 14:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Absolutely not. The hook is copied verbatim from . This article also contains multiple copyvios. The "Trains" section, which I marked, is copied from . In the "History" section, "would increase competition, stop infrastructure double-ups and reduce damage to sensitive native title and environmental regions" is copied from . I ask that you cease encroaching upon the core policy of WP:COPYVIO. Whwya (talk) 08:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

See Talk:Hammersley & Robe River railway for more. Calistemon (talk) 08:48, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Alterations to the text of the article have been made to address any perceived copyright problems. Calistemon (talk) 12:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Yuri Alcantara

• ... that after beating the highly touted prospect Francisco "Massaranduba" Drinaldo via armbar, Yuri Alcantara was signed by World Extreme Cagefighting to appear on their last ever event?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 13:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Polavaram Project

• ... that though the Polavaram Project was conceptualized in 1941 by the erstwhile Madras Presidency, it obtained environmental clearance for construction only in 2005?

Created by Mspraveen (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT 1 ... that the intention of the Polavaram Project was not only to benefit a cultivated command area of 175,000 hectares (430,000 acres), but also to supply water to coastal city of Visakhapatnam?

ALT 2 ... that because the Polavaram Project would submerge 246 villages, it attracted roadblocks from human rights and environmental activists, political parties and neighboring governments? Mspraveen (talk) 12:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Stradun (street)

• ... that Dubrovnik's historic main street Stradun (pictured) was the site of a tennis match played in July 2010 by Goran Ivanišević and John McEnroe?

Created by Timbouctou (talk). Self nom at 07:25, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length and date are fine, but there are in-line citations missing from some paragraphs. If the in-line citations can be fixed, this is a possible lead hook with the nice photograph of the street. Cbl62 (talk) 13:47, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• I like your idea about using the image to go along with the hook. I've added additional references, I think it should be fine now but let me know if more are needed. Thanks. Timbouctou 22:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Length and date are fine. Assume good faith on non-English sourcing. Cbl62 (talk) 19:56, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Kapuas River twins

• ... that two major rivers of Borneo originate in the same area, flow in different directions, but have the same name?

• Comment: There are dozens of way to put it, and mine is likely far from the best. DYK check tool fails on one of the articles (for unknown reason) - if so, check size of pre/post expansion versions. Materialscientist (talk) 07:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 07:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

• 5x expansion/new articles verified (recent vandalism in the first article, just pushed it below a 5x, but now my c/e has pushed it over even with that). I suggest:

ALT1 ... that two major rivers of Borneo originate in the same mountain range, discharge into different seas, but have the same name?

Can someone check/comment on this hook? SmartSE (talk) 00:24, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Sounds fine with me, thanks (but I am the nominator here).Materialscientist (talk) 09:32, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 5

Rio Tinto mines

• ... that, in 2009, Rio Tinto's Pilbara operations, consisting of the Brockman 2, Channar, Eastern Range, Hope Downs, Marandoo, Mesa A, Mesa J, Mount Tom Price, Nammuldi, Paraburdoo, West Angelas and Yandicoogina mines, produced 202 million tonnes of iron ore, accounting for almost 13% of the world production?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Fisherton Delamere

• ... that the civil parish of Fisherton Delamere (church pictured) was extinguished in 1934?

Created by Moonraker2 (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Che Guevara clothing and fashion accessories

• ... that in reponse to the popularity of Che t-shirts among youth not wanting to conform to society, Aleida Guevara has said that Che "probably would have been delighted to see his face on the breasts of so many beautiful women"?

Created by Hongkongresident (talk). Self nom at 18:32, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci

• ... that The Lucan portrait of Leonardo da Vinci (pictured) is a recently discovered painting believed by some experts to be a self-portrait of Leonardo da Vinci?

Created by Amandajm (talk). Nominated by JNW (talk) at 18:31, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Charles A. Miller House

• ... that the Charles A. Miller House (pictured) was built for the oldest funeral director in Cincinnati, Ohio?

5x expanded by Nyttend (talk). Self nom at 13:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Hyrcania (fortress)

• ... that two unexplained stepped tunnels near King Herod's Hyrcania fortress in the Judean desert have attracted treasure hunters looking for riches described in the Copper Scroll of Qumran?

5x expanded by Jheald (talk). Self nom at 12:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Sharad Anantrao Joshi

• ... that Sharad Anantrao Joshi was the sole Member of Parliament to vote against the bill providing 33% reservation for women in Indian parliament and assemblies?

5x expanded by Sachinvenga (talk). Self nom at 08:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Erick Silva

• ... that Erick Silva competed in "one of the wettest events in MMA history" when the outdoor event was subjected to torrential rain?

Created by Paralympiakos (talk). Self nom at 16:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Alderney Society Museum

• ... that the artefacts on display at the Alderney Society Museum are as diverse as 1940 census papers, cinery urns, dulcie cups, and curry powder bottles?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:16, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Mignot Memorial Hospital, Alderney

• ... that the Mignot Memorial Hospital in Alderney is not covered by the National Health Service?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk), Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 10:12, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Spencer's Pilots

• ... that the short-lived 1976 CBS adventure series Spencer's Pilots starred character actor Gene Evans as the owner of a small aviation company?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 06:35, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Abraham Curry, Eagle Valley, Nevada

• ... that Abraham Curry (pictured) and his business partners purchased a large portion of Eagle Valley, Nevada for a $300 down payment and set aside 10 of its acres to build the Nevada State Capitol?

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 05:17, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

West Shore (magazine)

• ... that the magazine West Shore (example cover pictured) was published in Portland, Oregon and was well known for its excellent illustrations of Pacific Northwest scenery, architecture, and commerce?

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 02:46, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Kanimozhi (film)

• ... that the forthcoming Tamil film Kanimozhi starring Jai and Shazahn Padamsee, was named after politician M. K. Kanimozhi and had its soundtrack released by her father, M. Karunanidhi?

5x expanded by Universal Hero (talk). Self nom at 23:01, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Johnny Hope

• ... that burglar Johnny Hope's father Jimmy, also a burglar, died a year before his son did??

Created by 71.184.56.180 (talk). Nominated by Alpha Quadrant (talk) at 18:27, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

George Cumberland

• ... that the last engraving by William Blake was a visiting card for his friend George Cumberland, which Blake decorated with children hoop rolling and flying kites?

Created by Aegoceras (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Summit cross

• ... that in April 2010 the world's first glass summit cross was erected on the Schartwand (2,339 m) in Salzburg's Tennengebirge mountains?

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self nom at 17:25, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Ducoudray Holstein Expedition

• ... that the Ducoudray Holstein Expedition was an attempted plot to invade Puerto Rico and declare it a republic in 1822?

Created by El Johnson (talk). Self nom at 16:50, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Mount Newman railway

• ... that, on 21 June 2001, on the Mount Newman railway, a BHP Billiton iron ore train consisting of 682 cars broke the world record for the heaviest train, weighing 99,734 tons and being 7.3 kilometres long?

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self nom at 15:42, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

St Leonard's Church, Bridgnorth

• ... that the aisles of St Leonard's Church, Bridgnorth, Shropshire, (tower pictured) were destroyed when stored ammunition was ignited by cannon fire in the Civil War in 1646?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 15:35, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Promised Land (CBC Radio One)

• ... that during the recording of the CBC Radio One program Promised Land, presenter Natasha Fatah reportedly broke down in tears in response to her interviewees' stories about being a refugee?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 15:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Li Gang incident

• ... that my dad is Li Gang! was yelled by the son of a Chinese police officer, convinced he would avoid facing criminal consequences?

Created by Comte0 (talk). Self nom at 15:23, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Perhaps clarify a bit with "...was yelled by the son of a Chinese police officer after hitting and killing a pedestrian whilst drunk, convinced..." - readers might want to know why he was yelling. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 04:45, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• I think it's good: the link on criminal refers to the hitting and killing, and the second part of the hook is the reason why he yelled. I then feel your version to be somewhat too long. Some words might be added about the driver being drunk, but he is actually charged for criminal negligence. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 08:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that a Chinese police officer's son, convinced that he would avoid facing criminal consequences after hitting a pedestrian, yelled "My dad is Li Gang!"? - PM800 (talk) 08:57, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Support this alt. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 09:05, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Why not. I added the missing question mark ;) Comte0 (talk) 12:26, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• This article seems to contain some close paraphrasing or borderline plagiarism. For example:

• Source: "the other, 19, suffered a fractured left leg and is in stable condition"

Article: "The other, Zhang Jingjing, 19, suffered a fractured left leg and was left in stable condition"

• Source: "Li Gang wept in an apology during an interview with China Central Television on Oct. 21. Li Qiming also apologized in a video released on Oct. 22."

Article: "Li Gang wept in an apology during an interview with China Central Television on 21 October. Li Qiming also apologized in a video released on 22 October"

• Source: "The director asked lawyer Zhang Kai to terminate his representation in this case because the law firm has been cautioned by Beijing Bureau of Justice"

Article: "On November 1, Zhang Kai . . . was asked to terminate his representation in this case because the law firm has been cautioned by Beijing Bureau of Justice"

• These (and possibly others) must be rewritten in your own words before the article can appear on DYK. Intelligentsium 00:19, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• I can do that tonight. However, I'm french, and I think that what you've pointed out clearly falls outside of the copyright laws. Regards, Comte0 (talk) 07:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Regardless of copyright laws, the DYK rules don't really allow it, and I recall seeing something similar on a WP policy page somewhere. Also, the Misplaced Pages servers are located in Florida, and not France; hence French laws don't apply to Misplaced Pages. I could paraphrase them if you like. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 08:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Paraphrasing done. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 08:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Okomu National Park

• ... that the Okomu National Park in Nigeria, home to many rare species, is severely threatened by illegal forestry?

5x expanded by Aymatth2 (talk). Self nom at 14:28, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the Okomu and Cross River national parks in Nigeria, both home to many rare species including Chimpanzees, are both increasingly threatened by illegal forestry?

This would combine two articles in one hook. Aymatth2 (talk) 17:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Teslim Balogun

• ... that Teslim Balogun became the first Nigerian footballer to play in the Football League, before later qualifying as the first African professional coach?

Created by GiantSnowman (talk). Self nom at 14:26, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Jack Sully

• ... that by 1900, a 12-man outlaw gang led by desperado Jack Sully had reportedly stolen 50,000 cattle and 3,000 horses?

Created by Arctic Night (talk). Self nom at 13:44, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• After the hook is stated in the source, the next sentence starts as: "These figures cannot be documented and are probably exaggerated..." - PM800 (talk) 14:22, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Ooh, OK, I must have missed that. Would you prefer it if I said "reportedly" instead, or include the fact about the sheriff election as a rewritten hook? Arctic Night 14:29, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• If you add "reportedly," then it would be all right in my opinion. - PM800 (talk) 14:39, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Mmkay, done. Arctic Night 15:27, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Ready. - PM800 (talk) 20:27, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Mission: Earth, Voyage to the Home Planet

• ... that in the children's book Mission: Earth, astronaut Thomas D. Jones describes using specialized radar technology to measure carbon monoxide pollution on the Earth?

Created by Cirt (talk). Self nom at 12:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• No problems here. Arctic Night 12:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Legion of Ratu Adil

• ... that the Legion of Ratu Adil was a pro-Dutch militia and private army established during the Indonesian National Revolution?

Created by Andykatib (talk). Nominated by Merbabu (talk) at 09:11, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date and source are all fine. Arctic Night 13:00, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 6

Salt industry in Syracuse, New York

• ... that until the end of the 19th century, the bulk of the salt used in the United States came from salt producers in Syracuse, New York?

Created by Nconwaymicelli (talk). Nominated by PFHLai (talk) at 12:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

List of incidents of grave disorder in the British House of Commons

• ... that grave disorder has broken out 27 times in the House of Commons since 1902, including mass brawls, organised disruption, and things being thrown from the gallery ?

Created by User:Sam Blacketer (talk). Self nom at 10:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Jule Sugarman

• ... that Jule Sugarman helped design and administer the Head Start Program, which and has served 27 million American children from low-income families since its inception its inception in 1965?

Created by Bongomatic (talk), Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 03:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

The Shadows (EP), The Shadows to the Fore, Spotlight on The Shadows, The Boys (The Shadows EP)

• ... that the eponymous extended play by The Shadows, The Shadows to the Fore, Spotlight on The Shadows and The Boys all were number-one EPs in the UK?

Created by Rambo's Revenge (talk). Self nom at 00:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Venues of the 1972 Winter Olympics

• ... that a malfunctioning starting gate at the luge venue during the men's doubles event at the 1972 Winter Olympics in Sapporo would lead to the only tie in Olympic luge history?

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 20:48, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1... that a reserve luge venue was constructed for the 1972 Winter Olympics in Sapporo, but was never used in actual competition? Chris (talk) 20:50, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Northern Nevada Correctional Center

• ... that one of Sammy Davis, Jr.'s performances in Nevada was a gig at the Northern Nevada Correctional Center?

Created by KimChee (talk). Self nom at 20:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date and hook referencing look fine. The photo, however, doesn't look so good at 100x100px size, so I'd suggest use this in a non-lead slot. Cbl62 (talk) 03:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Belvedere, United States Virgin Islands and Sugar production in the United States Virgin Islands

• ... that Belvedere, one of the historical centres of Sugar production in the United States Virgin Islands, contains a villa hotel which has been converted from an old sugar mill?

Created by Dr. Blofeld (talk). Self nom at 14:14, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Allan J. Kuethe

• ... that Allan J. Kuethe, an historian of Latin American studies, worked to establish the Texas Tech University Center in Seville, Spain?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 04:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• This current version of the article looks like it includes the biographies of two different people. That can't be good. - PM800 (talk) 11:30, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

2010 north Malaysian floods

• ... that floods in Malaysia in November 2010 affected the homes of a State Chief Minister and a Federal Minister?

Created by Mkativerata (talk). Self nom at 23:00, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Ready to go. Diego Grez (talk) 00:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Dogdyke_Engine

• ... that Dogdyke Engine is the one Fenland Steam Drainage engine regularly run under steam?

Created by Robert EA Harvey (talk). Self nom at 22:38, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• You might want to review the DYK instructions for formatting your hook because the main article is not linked to or even mentioned in it. As it is, the actual article (Dogdyke Engine) does not have enough characters of prose to be eligible. - PM800 (talk) 22:48, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've made it longer. I preferred the concise version, it made people look around more.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 00:08, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand / Sie Liebt Dich

• ... that the Beatles (pictured) recorded Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand and Sie Liebt Dich because the German sub-label of EMI, Odeon Records, insisted that "they should record their biggest songs in German so that they could sell more records there"?

Created by Diego Grez (talk). Self nom at 22:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Copyedit:

• ... that The Beatles (pictured) recorded "Komm, Gib Mir Deine Hand" and "Sie Liebt Dich" because the German label Odeon Records insisted that they record their hit songs in German to generate more sales there?

• Everything else is . /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 22:29, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks :P fixed some thing that seemed weird Diego Grez (talk) 22:40, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Christ the King

• ... that Christ the King, the world's biggest statue of Jesus, was completed in Świebodzin, Poland?

Created by Erixson. Nom by BabbaQ (talk) 21:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Currently nominated at WP:ITN/C. Please decide, it's only one or the other. Diego Grez (talk) 22:12, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

OK.. I withdraw this one for now then.--BabbaQ (talk) 22:20, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

FWIW, the article is not eligible for DYK as it is now. It needs 1,500 characters of prose to qualify for DYK. It currently has 1,282. Diego Grez (talk) 22:28, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Frida Svensson

• ... that Frida Svensson won Swedens first gold medal in the women's single sculls since 1995 at the 2010 World Rowing Championships in Lake Karapiro?

--BabbaQ (talk) 21:42, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

I can't say "no" outright, but if it's going to make the DYK cut, it'll need significant expansion. It only has 462 out of the 1500 characters of prose required. You have four more days before the article becomes completely ineligible. --Dil 00:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Charles Chauncey Burr

• ... that Charles Chauncey Burr was an abolitionist before the American Civil War but then became a Copperhead?

Created by Drmies (talk). Self nom at 20:38, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Is it accurate to describe him as an abolitionsist at all? The article says that he appears to have been an abolitionist because the supported an article. But it doesn't say that he was an abolitionist. This discrepancy is keeping me from approving it at DYK. Dincher (talk) 01:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Well, Whittier was a reformer, no doubt, and in most cases "reformer" and "abolitionist" are synonymous, especially among Quakers. The article says Burr supported Whittier's poem "The Reformer," and the reference which I've based that on also says that he "published materials indicating a strong anti-slavery bias." I'm going to add that to the article right now and hope that that suffices. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 01:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

- works for me. Dincher (talk) 02:47, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

St Swithun's Church, Worcester

• ... that St Swithun's Church, Worcester (pictured), is described as "one of the best preserved examples of an early Georgian church in England"?

Created by Peter I. Vardy (talk). Self nom at 18:42, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• (checked using DYKcheck) Meets all of the requirements. --Dylan620 01:52, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

William Hancock

• ... that William Hancock was one of seven Hancock brothers to play rugby union for Somerset?

Created by Harrias (talk). Self nom at 17:24, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date, and source checked. - PM800 (talk) 11:23, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Jim Landtroop

• ... that newly-elected Republican State Representative Jim Landtroop of Plainview, Texas, vows to "tell Washington, D.C., that Texans can govern themselves"?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:23, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT1:that newly-elected Republican State Representative Jim Landtroop is also a winning varsity basketball coach at a Christian academy in Plainview, Texas?

ALT2:that newly-elected Republican State Representative Jim Landtroop of Texas ran his campaign in part on opposition to U.S. President Barack Obama's health-care plan?

• All fine. I prefer ALT2. Diego Grez (talk) 03:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Hinomoto Oniko

• ... that Hinomoto Oniko is a moe anthropomorphism of an ethnic slur against Japanese created by 2channel users, themselves being Japanese?

Created by Dayfish (talk). 5x expanded by Benlisquare (talk). Nominated by Benlisquare (talk) at 15:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: "... that Hinomoto Oniko is a moe anthropomorphism of an ethnic slur created by 2channel users?" - use this one if it seems less confusing to the reader. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 15:55, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
• Also a brief comment that I may not be able to participate in discussions in the next few days due to examinations; I'll try my best though. Others are certainly welcome to make decisions if I am unable to. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 15:57, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Indole alkaloids, Ipomoea violacea

• ... that the seeds of Ipomoea violacea (pictured) contain several indole alkaloids and have an LSD-like hallucinogenic action that was used in Aztecs rituals?

• Comment: See Ipomoea violacea and these refs , , (there are many more, this property and practice are well known). Materialscientist (talk) 12:09, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

5x expanded by Materialscientist (talk). Self nom at 12:09, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• (checked using DYKcheck) AGF with the book ref for the second article. --Dylan620 02:10, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the seeds of Ipomoea violacea (pictured) contain several indole alkaloids, which have LSD-like hallucinogenic properties, were used in Aztecs rituals?

I think this is more accurate, and reads better. SmartSE (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT1a ... that the seeds of Ipomoea violacea (pictured) contain several indole alkaloids having LSD-like hallucinogenic properties, and therefore were used in Aztecs rituals? (there is a small readability problem in ALT1) Materialscientist (talk) 23:24, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

ALT2 ... that seeds of Ipomoea violacea (pictured) were used in Aztec rituals for the LSD-like hallucinogenic properties of their indole alkaloids? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Nasrani Hagbah

• ... that the Nasrani Hagbah of the Syrian Malabar Nasrani people in Kerala South India consists of the unveiling of red curtain separating the holy of holies in the tradition of the ancient temple of Jerusalem?

Created by Robin klein (talk). Self nom at 11:25, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

James Greenway

• ... that American ornithologist James Greenway was so averse to large gatherings that he probably never attended a single professional meeting or congress in his life?

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 11:11, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Stark's Knob

• ... that although it is thought that Stark's Knob originated in the Connecticut River Valley, it lies next to the Hudson River, over sixty miles away?

5x expanded by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 04:30, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that the upthrust of Stark's Knob has been studied using snails in pillows? Le Deluge (talk) 11:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've been looking into the sources cited in the article and also scientific papers about this site, and I'm not convinced that the first hook is exactly true. Additionally, the article doesn't mention the 60 mile distance from the Connecticut River Valley. As for ALT1, I scrossed out the upthrust part because Stark's Knob is not an upthrust; the rest of the hook is sort of supported by sources (if you consider gastropod fossils to be "snails" and pillow lava to be "pillows") but I think it's excessively cute and deceptive. I think there's an interesting and non-deceptive hook to be extracted from this article, but I don't yet know what it is going to be. --Orlady (talk) 01:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you that the second one sounds weird because it sounds like something that would be appropriate on an April Fools Day run. If nothing else appears boosting my statement anytime soon, I can whip up another hook. I will though ax the mile thing as it is a bit of unintentional original research on my part. Kevin Rutherford (talk)

:Lay is transitive: that means it requires an object. Corrected to lies--Wetman (talk) 05:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)`

• An upthrust is not a structure, it's a process, in this case the process that has moved these rocks from below sea level to high on land, so I've removed the strikeout. And individual structures within a marine lava are called "pillows", there's no "consider" about it. Just IMO Orlady, I think you need to relax a bit on the hooks - these are the equivalent of newspaper headlines to pique people's interest and get them to click through and read a shiny new article on a subject they would normally not look at. A "dry" hook like the original might showcase the article to 2000 people, something more eyecatching might get 10,000 or 20,000. I think Ktr101's hard work deserves to be showcased to as many people as possible, and that means using common names like "snails" in the hook, if people care about the detail as much as you do, the article will clarify that the term is referring to Ordovician fossils. However I note that the reference talks about snails rather than gastropods, Orlady you really shouldn't make things up that aren't in the references.... <g> Ktr101 - quirky hooks aren't just for April Fools, WP:DYK/A J7 positively encourages a quirky in every DYK run but now you mention it, ALT1 might well be suitable for the kudos of a April Fool DYK. This is a good thing. Le Deluge (talk) 10:16, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• You will note that I said that I have been reading scientific publications about Stark's knob, with the intent of adding additional sources to the article. The "geology" fact sheet that is cited in the article appears to have been written by someone (probably a professional PR person) who didn't fully understand the topic; I say that because it doesn't make sense from a technical perspective. As for "upthrust," you will not find the term "upthrust" in the Misplaced Pages articles thrust fault and thrust tectonics because it's not a valid term, nor a technically correct description of the nature of thrust faulting. The sense of movement in thrust faulting is primarily lateral, not upward. --Orlady (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2010 (UTC) As for relaxing my standards on hooks, please note that I have been reviewing hooks here (on-again, off-again) for nearly 3 years, and I happen to believe that it is important to try to maintain quality here. You might note that DYK has been under attack recently due to the perception that reviewers have not been maintaining standards. --Orlady (talk) 18:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Upthrust could be linked to thrust tectonics and snail should probably be linked to gastropod and pillow needs to be linked to pillow lava, I think. However, the snails are only used for dating the rocks, it's the shape of the pillows that has been used to understand the geometry of the upthrust block. If you want to keep the snails, how about

• ALT2 ... that the history of the upthrust Stark's Knob has been studied using pillows and the snails found inside them? Mikenorton (talk) 11:09, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• The study of the upthrust process includes both its geometry and its timing, and the snails put a fundamental boundary on the latter - it could not have happened in the Cambrian for instance. So there's no need to include "history". To be honest, I think it's a mistake to overlink a hook like ALT1/2 that relies on its ambiguity to pique readers' curiosity. Linking to gastropod won't give much away, but linking to pillow lava and thrust tectonics will reduce the number of clickthroughs to the new article - which is the whole aim of DYK. Too many wikilinks reduce the hookiness of this style of hook.Le Deluge (talk) 19:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• You're right Le Deluge, the age of the lavas is a key piece of evidence telling us that this a thrust sheet, I thought about that the moment I woke up this morning, so yes we can lose history. I'm not sure that I agree about linking in the hook, I probably tend to link anything that I think that the average reader won't understand, but I see your point as well. Mikenorton (talk) 00:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Royal Lichtenstein Quarter-Ring Sidewalk Circus

• ... that the Royal Lichtenstein Quarter-Ring Sidewalk Circus was a street theatre troupe that toured the United States between 1971 and 1993 that was also a ministry of the California Jesuits?

Created by Dgabbard (talk). Self nom at 03:06, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1: ... that the Royal Lichtenstein Quarter-Ring Sidewalk Circus was a street theatre troupe and also a ministry of the California Jesuits? Comte0 (talk) 06:39, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Youcef Nadarkhani

• ... that Youcef Nadarkhani, on death row, could become the first Christian executed in Iran for religious reasons in over 20 years?

Created by NorthernFalcon (talk). Self nom at , 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 7

Victor Stolan

• ... that Victor Stolan after reading articles by Julian Huxley on the disappearance of Africa's wildlife wrote to him with "the germ of the idea" that led to the World Wildlife Fund?

Created by LittleHow (talk). Self nom at 04:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• I've removed the non-free image which is not allowed on any other page (especially the main page) due to non-free content criteria. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 12:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Great Migrations

• ... that Great Migrations, the largest programming event of the National Geographic Channel, is part of the largest cross-platform initiative since the founding of the National Geographic Society in 1888?

Created by AngChenrui (talk). Self nom at 04:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

First and Second Battle of Wonju

• ... that French Battalion's bayonet charges at the Battle of Wonju impressed General Ridgway to encouraged all American units to conduct bayonet fighting during the Korean War?

Created by Jim101 (talk). Self nom at 03:55, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Adriatic Croatia International Club

• ... that with 21 marinas along the Croatian coast ACI Club is the single largest marina chain in the Mediterranean?

Created by Timbouctou (talk). Self nom at 03:21, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Monadnock Building

• ... that the staircases in the 1891 Monadnock Building in Chicago (pictured) were the first use of aluminum in a building?

5x expanded by Nasty Housecat (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I've Got Nothing

• ... that the 2009 single "I've Got Nothing" was written entirely through crowdsourcing in 10 weeks?

Created by Vobedd731 (talk). Self nom at 23:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Comment If it makes any difference, the single was released on the 9 November last year, so it'd be pretty cool if this fact could appear on the front page on its one year anniversary (i.e. two days' time). If not, don't worry about it, it's just a suggestion. Vobedd731 (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A.

• ... that the George W. Bush presidential campaign used John Cougar Mellencamp's "R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A." at a campaign rally, despite Mellencamp's opposition to Bush's political positions?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 21:38, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Good to go. AGF on offline source. - PM800 (talk) 01:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Jo-Jo Morrisey

• ... that prior to the 1933 Cincinnati Reds season, a newspaper reported that Jo-Jo Morrissey "developed amazingly" yet he was fifth in the league in errors and batted .230

Created by Secret (talk). Self nom at 20:45, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Deorbit of Mir

• ... that during deorbit of Mir space station the New Zealand authorities issued international warnings to ships and aircraft travelling in the South Pacific?

Created by Twilight Chill (talk). Self nom at 20:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Crumblin' Down

• ... that John Cougar Mellencamp's top-ten hit "Crumblin' Down" was partially inspired by his cousin losing his job as an electrical engineer?

Created by 28bytes (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1:... that "Crumblin' Down" was John Cougar Mellencamp's first single released with his real last name?

William Austin Burt, typographer, solar compass, equatorial sextant

• ... that William Austin Burt was the first to invent a workable typewriter at any time in any country, as well as a workable solar compass, a non-magnetic dependant surveying instrument, and an equatorial sextant (pictured), a precision navigational aid to determine with one observation the location of a ship at sea?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self nom at 17:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Comment: Note that this is a Four-in-One hook.

ALT1: ... that William Austin Burt was the first to invent a workable typewriter at any time in any country, as well as a workable solar compass, an astronomical dependant surveying instrument, and an equatorial sextant (pictured), a precision navigational aid to determine with one observation the location of a ship at sea?

ALT2: ... that William Austin Burt was the first to invent a workable typewriter at any time in any country, as well as a workable solar compass, a solar use surveying instrument, and an equatorial sextant (pictured), a precision navigational aid to determine with one observation the location of a ship at sea?

Luis Daoiz de Torres

Man in blue tunic and white breeches of the Spanish artillery officers uniform of the Napoleonic era

• ... that Luis Daoiz de Torres (pictured), one of the leaders of the Dos de Mayo Uprising in 1808 has ancestors who fought for Spain since the 13th century?

• ALT1:... that on 2 May 1808 Luis Daoiz de Torres (pictured) held off 2,000 French troops for three hours with just 120 Spanish soldiers and civilians?
• ALT2:... that Captain Luis Daoiz de Torres (pictured) refused orders to hand over his barracks to French troops during the Dos de Mayo Uprising and was killed in the ensuing attack?

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 15:50, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Alan Huggins

• ... that Sir Alan Huggins was one of the first non-permanent Hong Kong judges of the Hong Kong Court of Final Appeal appointed in 1997?

Created by Clithering (talk). Self nom at 15:37, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Kjeld Rimberg

• ... that when Kjeld Rimberg resigned after thirteen months as CEO of the Norwegian State Railways, he cited political regulations as the reason?

Created by Geschichte (talk). Self nom at 15:28, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Branko Gavella

• ... that theatre director and critic Branko Gavella refereed the opening match of the first Croatian association football championship in 1912?

Created by Timbouctou (talk). Self nom at 14:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Length, date and references verified. Nice hook :) — Toдor Boжinov — 20:11, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks, Todor :) Timbouctou 03:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

List of UNESCO World Heritage Sites in India

• ... that UNESCO recognizes 28 World Heritage Sites in India , as of 2010 with the Jantar Mantar, Jaipur (pictured), a collection of architectural astronomical instruments as the latest?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 13:03, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Made slight additions to the hook to fit an img.-- N.V.V. Char . 13:49, 7 November 2010 (UTC)*

Gabi (elephant)

• ... that the birth of Gabi, the first elephant conceived in Israel through artificial insemination, was viewed live by over 350,000 people in 108 countries?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self nom at 11:18, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Aww this is a lovely article.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:05, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Indeed it is! Date, length and hook references check out. 28bytes (talk) 03:27, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

TV pickup

• ... that the British National Grid saw a record 2800MW increase in demand due to the boiling of kettles and the opening of fridge doors after the 1990 FIFA World Cup Semi-Final between England and West Germany?

Created by Dumelow (talk). Self nom at 10:13, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Creation date and length verified. Hook sentence in article does not have reference. Please make inline citation. Interesting concept. The Interior(Talk) 06:51, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Wadjemup Lighthouse

• ... that Wadjemup Lighthouse was Australia's first rotating beam lighthouse?

Created/expanded by Moondyne (talk). Self nom at 06:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Date, length and hook reference verified. 28bytes (talk) 03:36, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

2001 NBDL Draft, 2006 NBA Development League Expansion Draft, 2001 NBDL Supplemental Draft

• ... that four players selected in both the 2001 NBDL Draft and 2006 NBA Development League Expansion Draft had also previously been picked in NBA Drafts, while Kaniel Dickens was the only All-Star to come out of the 2001 NBDL Supplemental Draft?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:17, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

My Idiot Brother

• ... that the upcoming film My Idiot Brother went into production unusually quickly for an independent film, with a first cut to be completed less than a year after the script was written?

5x expanded by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 07:16, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Ayame Koike

• ... that Ayame Koike was one of three receivers of the Judges' Special Acting Award from the Japan Movie Critics Awards in recognition of their performance in Always Zoku Sanchōme no Yūhi?

Created by Ike-bana (talk). Self nom at 11:20, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• "receivers"? How about "winners" or "recipients"? --PFHLai (talk) 04:02, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• Mm, yes, I think recipients would be better. Thank you. --生け花 10:42, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

• ALT1 ... that Ayame Koike was one of three recipients of the Judges' Special Acting Award from the Japan Movie Critics Awards in recognition of their performance in Always Zoku Sanchōme no Yūhi?

1950–51 Ashes series

• ... ... that the rainstorm that caused 20 wickets to fall on the third day of the First Test in the 1950–51 Ashes series was blamed on the atomic bomb experiment carried out by the Americans on Bikini Atoll (pictured)?

Created by Philip Jelley (talk). Self nom at 21:05, 7 November 2010 (GMT)

• This article was started by Philipjelley (talk · contribs) on October 11, 2010, so this is not a brand new article. And, there's no evidence of page-moving out of a personal sandbox. Article continued to grow but there was no 5-fold expansion in the last 5 days. Shall we cut this DYK-rookie some slack? Philip, please see the rules at WP:DYK. Good luck. --PFHLai (talk) 03:49, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Liam Walsh (boxer)

• ... that the new Commonwealth boxing champion Liam Walsh is one of three brothers, all of whom made their pro boxing debuts on the same night?

Created/expanded by Notjamesbond (talk). Self nom at 17:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

• Please wikify the hook and the article and clarify which "Commonwealth boxing championship" this is about. I did a text-search on Boxing at the 2010 Commonwealth Games and List of Commonwealth Boxing Council Champions, but couldn't find the word "Walsh". Please update as needed. Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 03:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Shake It Up (TV series)

• ... that Disney Channel veteran Selena Gomez sings the theme song for the new Disney series, Shake It Up' ?

5x expanded by Candyo32 (talk). Nominated by Candyo32 (talk) at 02:27, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on November 8

Warlugulong

• ...that after hanging for nineteen years in a staff cafeteria, and eleven in a living room, Clifford Possum Tjapaltjarri's painting Warlugulong sold at auction in 2007 for a record-breaking A$2.4 million?

Created by Hamiltonstone (talk). Self nom at 11:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

2009 NBA Development League Expansion Draft

• ... that the entire 2009 NBA Development League Expansion Draft took place via teleconference?

Created by Jrcla2 (talk). Self nom at 04:39, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Special occasion holding area

Do not nominate new articles for a special time in this section. Instead, please nominate them in the candidate entries section above under the date the article was created or the expansion began, and indicate your request for a specially-timed appearance on the Main Page.

Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated within five days of creation or expansion as usual (with the exception of April Fools' Day 2011 - see Misplaced Pages:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know). Also, articles should be nominated at least five days before the occasion to give reviewers time to check the nomination.

For 14 November, 24th Sunday after Trinity

O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort, BWV 60 nominated 4 November

For December 10

This nomination has an unusual history, having been nominated originally for a date-specific spot on October 28. The discussion WT:DYK#Hook with Oct 28 request date explains the situation. Pursuant to that discussion, Paralympiakos and I request that the two articles Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks that were moved to article space on 24 October, now be held for a December 10 hook. These two mixed martial arts fighters were due to face each other in a championship bout on October 28; their bout was postponed at the last moment. On December 10, there will be three bouts for inaugural global championship (different weight divisions) and our intention is for a 6-article hook for that date. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

The goal 6-article hook would be something like:

* ... that M-1 Global's welterweight (Tom Gallicchio vs. Shamil Zavurov) middleweight (Magomed Sultanakhmedov vs. Rafał Moks), and light heavyweight (Tomasz Narkun vs. Vyacheslav Vasilevsky) MMA Champions will be determined at M-1 Challenge XXII today?

Magomed Sultanakhmedov and Rafał Moks Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at 17:03, 24 October 2010 (UTC). Tom Gallicchio, Shamil Zavurov, Tomasz Narkun and Vyacheslav Vasilevsky Jointly Created by Paralympiakos (talk) and EdChem (talk). Self nom at TIME and DATE to follow.

Updating work on these articles will be completed over the next few weeks in user space; the four new articles will be moved into article space in early December. EdChem (talk) 02:59, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Late December 2010

Cincinnati Riot of 1853

• … that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day?

  This one is entirely Aymatth2's fault, as well. Uncle G (talk) 14:00, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
• ALT:... that the Cincinnati Riot of 1853 involved Germans objecting to the presence of an Italian preaching in French in the United States on Christmas Day? {Let's save this hook for use on X'mas.} --174.89.163.171 (talk) 05:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Andrew McKinley

• ... that Andrew McKinley, David Aiken, and Leon Lishner created the parts of the three kings in the world premiere of Menotti's Christmas opera Amahl and the Night Visitors which was broadcast live by NBC to an audience of millions on Christmas Eve 1951?

Created by 4meter4 (talk). Self nom at 01:23, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• My plan is to make this a tripple nom with Aiken and Lishner. If reviewers could please hold off until those articles are also created, I would appriciate it. Also I would like this to be up at 7:00 PM New York City Time on Christmas Eve if possible, which is the place and time the original production was performed at its premiere.4meter4 (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Mark Miodownik

• ... that Mark Miodownik will deliver the first part of the Royal Institution Christmas Lectures tonight?

Created by Christopher Connor (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

He will give the lectures, spanning a few days, in "late December". I think they usually start a few days before Christmas. 2009 event was 21–25 December. There'll be more info as the event approaches of course. Christopher Connor (talk) 23:30, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

For January 1, 2011, Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation

• ALT1 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation represents the courage, valour, strength, cleanliness, truth, high moral standards and high level of motivation expected of FBI agents?

• ALT2 ... that the Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was first used on January 1, 1941 and represents the values, standards and history of the FBI and its agents?

Expanded and self-nominated by ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This nomination is a bit of a special case. I originally nominated Seal of the Federal Bureau of Investigation on August 3 following a 5x expansion (see discussion above under #Articles created/expanded on August 3). Everyone accepted that it met the DYK criteria but the nomination was derailed by a political dispute over timing. I've put forward a compromise at User talk:Jimbo Wales#Compromise proposal, which involves passing this DYK now but scheduling its appearance on January 1, 2011, which is 60 years to the day since the seal was first used. This proposal has been generally welcomed so I'm putting it forward here for formal consideration. I'm aware that the timeframe is somewhat longer than would be usual for scheduled DYKs, but in the circumstances I think a some flexibility would be justified. I've put forward two possible hooks: the original one as proposed earlier, and a new alternative tying the DYK in more directly with the date. -- ChrisO (talk) 20:50, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

• Interesting compromise. It completely flipped my opinion of the matter. However, prior to providing said opinion, I'd like some clarification: Are we nominating this (with whichever hook) sans image as you initially suggested on Jimbo's talk page?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• Appended: I see that you removed the image from inclusion in the original nomination, so I'll assume this post-dated nomination would not include the image either. However, this necessitates further clarification:

Are we excluding the image from this DYK solely because of the recent interaction with the FBI?
--K10wnsta (talk) 01:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

In effect yes, but in my view it's a necessary evil if we're to reach a satisfactory compromise on this issue. -- ChrisO (talk) 01:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

• - Tentative Even if the motivation behind qualifying this article for DYK was questionable, I think you already achieved not just a satisfactory compromise, but a completely valid and justifiable use for it. In fact, it's use is so valid, refusing to use the image for no other reason than the recent hoobajoo with the FBI is blatantly (chilled) censorship...and I just can't get behind that. If we're going to censor it, we need to go whole hog or don't go at all.
  Could we put it up for 'On This Day' to avoid reasoning for exclusion of the image?
  --K10wnsta (talk) 01:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
• No opinion on whether to feature on the future date; however, it would be better if this hook didn't remain on the suggestions page for the intervening months, as it is bound to attract further discussion and the page is unwieldy enough as it is. Espresso Addict (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Espresso's suggestion may be useful for more than just making this page leaner. A delay in nomination would lend to better perspective for those establishing consensus. In other words, removing it from discussion for a couple months would also put some time between recent events and the article (and hopefully image) being contemplated for a main page feature (unless such a delay would disqualify it from use in DYK section).
--K10wnsta (talk) 02:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Comment This hook should not "disappear" for a few months. It is far better to leave it here to enable a wide input from editors on the issue. I think this is a good compromise that involves common sense, the proposal and special treatment of the timescale fitting nicely under WP:IAR. Mjroots (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

• Support ALT2 for use on 1 January, 2011. EdChem (talk) 10:32, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

• Suggest scrapping this troublesome controversial DYK, the user that instigated the issue has also since retired, suggest retiring this idea as well. Off2riorob (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Would you please stop with your blatant pushing of the issue? Putting this off until January removes all controversy related to it. Silverseren 13:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Your comment is just a simple personal attack, I have bigger fish to relentlessly pursue than this worthless disruptive DYK. Off2riorob (talk) 14:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• Nothing of what I said was or is a personal attack. I know you greatly dislike ChrisO and myself, but could you please not try and push an already outdated issue? Silverseren 14:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

• I support ALT2 for the 1 January date. The anniversary makes this a very good choice for that day. -- L'ecrivant (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I do not support 1 January 2011. The DYK section is for new articles. There are exceptions like April Fools and Halloween; I do not see the point of making every day of the year a possible exception. Geschichte (talk) 20:28, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose Anniversary or not, a four-month wait at DYK is an overkill. The point of DYK is to present new or newly expanded articles, not to present "on this day". By then this article will be more than four months old. If this line of though is going to be followed, DYK is going to end up in a mess. The length of this entry is plain evidence for why keeping things around for almost five months is not a good idea. Arsenikk 13:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

• per IAR. I would count this as a valid use of IAR. This could have gone up for today. The only reason it isn't going up is for political reasons. I disagree with Jimbo and others on that matter and think we should run it now, but there is no need to reject it entirely on that basis. NW (Talk) 03:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support as this would have been promoted in the usual time window if not for the decision to shelve it until the political heat was off. To kill it now because a delay was agreed to would be an egregious abuse of trust. - Dravecky (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• Oppose per Arsenikk. The Utahraptor/_{Contributions} 22:49, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support per NuclearWarfare and Dravecky—Chris!_c/t 20:05, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support, per Chrishomingtang (talk · contribs). -- Cirt (talk) 06:13, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - This was initially nominated in a timely manner, with an image of the seal, but due to political considerations (public dispute between Wikimedia Foundation and the FBI over the use of the image of the seal) it was agreed that the image should not be used on the main page, and that the hook should be held and run at a later date, when the dispute was not so much in the news. The 60th anniversary of the first use of the seal makes a perfect tie-in, and while it is longer than DYK hooks are normally held for special occassions, Dravecky is correct that it would be egregious to reject it now on the basis of timing. cmadler (talk) 19:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - cmadler really sums up the issue for me. The circumstances of the original nomination and the fact of the 60th anniversary are significant enough that we ought to make an exception to the requirement that DYK items be from recently-created articles. -- Black Falcon 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support I agree with NW, but don't think we need to IAR, considering that hooks are regularly kept back for months for the April fools and Halloween main pages. I don't think we should treat this any differently. Smartse (talk) 10:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
• Support - The Bushranger _{Return fire} 17:12, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Conditional support if, and only if, the squabble with the feds is over. ScottyBerg (talk) 17:14, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
• Oppose I'm worried that this is too obviously a matter of giving the FBI the proverbial finger than promoting something encyclopedic. I'm all for criticizing the FBI, but we shouldn't invoke exceptions to basic guidelines just to promote our own POV. It seems far more prudent to pull up your sleeves and make this a quickie FA or get it on "On this day". Peter 10:43, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

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