Revision as of 22:36, 9 January 2011

Hey Biz kids, i'm happy to welcome you to my talk page. I only have a few rules to make it easy for your message to get across to me. Keep in mind, some of them are because i use a screen reader.

• Please don't use too much visual things, jaws only says "immage.", so you don't have to worry about that.
• Please do not use computer speek, i can't understand all the abreviations, i can only understand I.E. or lol.
• Please, oh please do not harp at me about my spelling and grammar, as that is my week point, however, there is one exception:
  • If it is someone's name, i.e. Catherine in stead of Katherine, or something along that line, then you may correct my spelling. You can correct other spelling or grammar mistakes yourself if you like.
• Please bare with me if i don't seem to understand something. I'm just getting the hang of things here.

Thanks for your kind words, and feel welcome here. Hello to you know who by the way. 04:12, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

November 2010

Welcome!

Hello, Nissae Isen's Man! Welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Misplaced Pages. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already excited about Misplaced Pages, you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field when making edits to pages. Happy editing! Mlpearc powwow 16:00, 14 November 2010 (UTC) Getting Started The five pillars of Misplaced Pages • Tutorial • Your first article How to: edit a page • upload an image Getting Help Frequently Asked Questions Where to ask questions or make comments Request administrator attention Policies and Guidelines Neutral point of view • Reliable sources Verifiability • Citing sources • No original research What Misplaced Pages is not • Biographies of living persons Manual of Style • Three-revert rule • Sock puppetry Copyrights • Policy for non-free content • Image use policy External links • Spam • Vandalism Deletion policy • Conflict of interest • Notability The Community Community Portal • Adopt-a-user program Assume good faith • Civility • Etiquette No personal attacks • Resolving disputes Build consensus • Village pump Signpost • IRC channels • Mailing lists Things to do Be bold in editing • Help develop an article Maintenance • Peer review • Requested articles Join a WikiProject • Translating articles Cleaning up: General • Spam • Vandalism Miscellaneous Categories • Disambiguity • Stubs User pages • Talk pages Useful templates • Tools • User scripts

Voice questions

Now i may have voice questions, feel free to answer them in this section, just make them heading level 3s by putting 3 equals signs on either side of the title. 22:49, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

leave a message here for voice of nemesis on foster's home for imaginary friends and golden lox/hair razer on fairly oddparents

That is all Nissae Isen's Man (talk) 20:37, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

November 2010

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize pages by deliberately introducing incorrect information, as you did at List of villains in Codename: Kids Next Door, you may be blocked from editing. Cresix (talk) 00:11, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

"Assume good faith" does not mean tolerating vandalism and intentionally adding incorrect information to articles. Go ahead and report me. It will only result in a block for you, not me. I have all the evidence I need: repeatedly adding unsourced information, flaunting Misplaced Pages policies by stating that you will continue to do so, and now intentionally adding incorrect information to articles here and here. Furthemore, if you restore the incorrect information in either of these instances without citing a reliable source, I will immediately make a report at WP:AIV. Cresix (talk) 03:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

The source you indicate does not confirm the information. Again, restore the information without a proper source and you will be blocked. Cresix (talk) 03:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Catherine Thompson

links if editors give me trouble note to self: do not delete under any circumstances

I give commet tuttle full credit for these, hope you don't mind ct. Misplaced Pages:Editor assistance to get informal help or counseling from another editor. Then we have the page Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts which is intended to help with disputes. Then in more extreme cases there is the page Misplaced Pages:AN/I which is the administrator's noticeboard for disputes that require the intervention of an administrator. Comet Tuttle (talk) 16:48, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Editing on Misplaced Pages

Hello Nissae Isen's Man and welcome. I'm glad you got your account request through, I checked once or twice early on but then forgot about it until I noticed your name pop up somewhere. I was sad to see you're getting yourself into trouble again though. As I said elsewhere, some of the problems with your IP editing are behind you now - but now we have to focus on your future as a registered editor and it's true that you will have to work very hard to understand all our rules and policies and the right way to add information - all the things every single editor here has to learn. The way you've used this account so far looks to me like it is going to get blocked if you don't change some things. I've looked over your edits and here are some notes:

• First of all, no-one here doesn't like or is "against" vision-impaired, or any other sort of disabled editors or users of the encyclopedia. We take it very seriously, and you can read our guideline at WP:ACCESS. No-one has ignored you when you say that you aren't able to see the screen.I know at least two vision-impaired editors here and have noticed others who just casually mention they are blind, so I know they are able to edit here. You seem to have a particular problem with your screen reader that other editors don't have, and I think you need to get it fixed on your end. Do you have a local support organization who can send someone to help set up your system?
• Next, talk pages. User talk pages are used for communication, and it is expected that the communication will be civil and directed to working together on improving the encyclopedie. People shouldn't be threatening you on your talk page for things you haven't done, but at the same time you better not be threatening them too. If you make comments again like you did to CutOffTies and Cresix, I will block you from editing. That's completely unacceptable, so please stop doing it. Remember that if you threaten to report someone, you might get the attention of an admin who will look into the whole situation. Another thing to remember going forward is that it is OK to remove notices and warnings from your own talk page once you have read them, you don't need to explain why, we all just assume that you have read and understood the message. The only things you can't remove are declined unblock requests and other editor comments within a thread where removing it changes the meaning of the thread.
• Most important and above all are our articles:
  • If you make an article edit and it gets reverted, stop editing the article and go to the talk page. The burden is on you to prove the information belongs there. You have to provide a good source or explain some other way why your edit should stay. Changing back to your own version of the article without providing a source is unacceptable too, and if you keep doing it I will block you from editing. You can read WP:BURDEN and WP:WAR to learn more about this, and WP:BRD for the right way to do it.
  • Catherine Thompson seems to be entirely non-notable and you are putting that name in various places with no good reason. I watched the video link you supplied (which is almost certainly a copyright violation, so it can't be used as a reference for the article) and I didn't see the name. You say your neighbour told you it was true, I disagree. It looks to me as though all the C.T. mentions you and your IP address inserted will have to go, until you can supply a reliable source. (Read at WP:RS)
  • Alexis Jordan, same thing with reverting to put back your own version while demanding that someone else show the proof it's wrong, plus another policy you need to learn, WP:BLP. For living persons, we don't add material to their articles unless we can show that some other independent source confirms it. We don't say it because we "know it's true", we say it because someone else reliable has said it and we (the editors working together) decide it is important to show here. Most actors and artists will have a site where they list every piece of work they've done, and other sources discussing their work also, so I don't understand why you can't provide sources. That is how we decide what to include. I reverted one of your edits myself since I couldn't see any basis for it.
• Separate from the above, I've looked again at the username you chose and although I thought it might be alright at the time , having looked again I believe now that you should choose a different name which doesn't mention another living person. I'm going to mention this at the appropriate noticeboard (WP:UAA) for comments. Maybe it is OK, but just in case, start thinking of another username you might like.

Sorry for the length of this, but there were a lot of issues to cover. You really need to make an effort to learn what is required here, I hope you can do it. Especially when it comes to our articles, things can't go on as they have. Please read this over a few times before you respond and think it over. I'd prefer we keep the discussion here and I will be watching this page when I'm online, so don't worry that I might be missing your comments. Regards. Franamax (talk) 08:51, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

What about observation sources, i.e. Catherine Thompson on Biz Kid$, who does Capitalest Peg, Biz witch, and hosts the Biz Kids Biz quiz. She does various roles on the Majic Schoolbus, and i woulden't rely on IMDB so much, there is a lot of info missing from it that needs to be known. If it is not catherine thompson, you guys need to tell me. This time, not my friend, but my aunt read the credits of biz kid$ (i got her to read it 9 times over), and Catherine's name shows up. If she is only notable for biz kids, would it be rellavent though to say that she does minor roles in Kids Next Door, Majic Schoolbus, and the other shows i mention? I mean, "Meow, Meow" is a minor role in kids next door. I know Biz Kid$ is not the only other show, My aunt saw her name as Earth and a few other roles on the Zula Patrol. That's all not pov but observations, right? just want to make sure. Nissae Isen's Man (talk) 13:09, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

And Nissae Isen (yes, Thee nissae isen) is someone i miss, so i named the account "Nissae Isen's Man" for her to show her i still care. Caring is a good component of good editors right? just checking remember. Nissae Isen's Man (talk) 13:41, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

december 2010

My talk page

I received your message -- twice -- and read it -- twice. There is no need to place the same message more than once. If I remove it, that means I received it and read it. Thank you. Cresix (talk) 23:29, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

how to link an external link(Note to self: please keep this message)

To link an external website, type a left bracket, then the website address, then a right bracket. If you wish to show a descriptive title, add one space after the website address, then type the title before the right bracket. Here is the English Misplaced Pages main page linked that way English Misplaced Pages. Cresix (talk) 00:05, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much cresix. N.I.M. (talk) 00:19, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Kim Possible voices

Thanks for the message, but I'm not really interested in watching a bunch of Kim Possible in the hope of identifying an audio effect. Best of luck though. - DustFormsWords (talk) 23:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Catherine Thompson

• This is a continuation of the discussion on the Misplaced Pages Ref Desk/Entertainment.

IMDB

1. If you see something in a Misplaced Pages article that does not have a proper citation, and you doubt it, then the {{fact}} tag is your friend. If you add {{fact}}> with the two curly braces next to the word, then the words "citation needed" appear when anyone reads the article. This may shame the author to add a citation, or another editor may find and add a citation; or, if the "fact" tag has been on there long enough, some editor may decide to delete the doubtful piece of information. 2. IMDB is not a very reliable source, it is true. Here's an idea: A reliable source might be to actually write to the production company, or possibly PBS, and ask for a "press kit" that includes information about all the show's actors, including guest stars and minor characters. You could then include citations that cite the press kit. Comet Tuttle (talk) 20:01, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits

Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Misplaced Pages pages that have open discussion, you must sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. --SineBot (talk) 18:59, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

It looks like you did not point directly to your userpage and talkpage, but you used an URL. Fix that and Sinebot won't harass you about signing. Jarkeld (talk) 20:42, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

page to remember

Cuddlyable3 (talk) 02:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

They may need or want to talk to someone who can make them laugh, so the link is there for me. s

Rationale

Misplaced Pages needs comunication, and i believe in spreading good feelings. do not take anything as wrong, I am an aspiring commedian and movie writer. I believe in making wikipedians feel happy to edit wikipedia, even when they get block warnings. Hey, you may have to stop doing something, but that doesn't mean you can't feel good at the same time. god bless you, N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line 09:42, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

You might be interested in using the various templates for that sort of thing, NIM. The one I've placed below is the {{Smile}} template, there's also eg. {{Lollipop}} and many more like it... WikiDao ☯ 16:15, 3 January 2011 (UTC) (Template removed -- sorry, forget your screen reader doesn't like images/templates! WikiDao ☯ 16:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC))

Hey no problom man, N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. please 11:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line

Just a note to say that the addition to your signature, "Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line", leads directly to the page that allows people to edit your contributions list. I don't think you intended to do that, as I don't know why anyone would wnat to edit this list but I would change it if I were you as it may be a temptation to vandals. Britmax (talk) 15:45, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Done. N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 18:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

It's not a contributions list, you made an actual Misplaced Pages article. If you want to change your signature you can do it in your Preferences. Adam Bishop (talk) 18:58, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

No, i mean i did it, signature changed, that's all. don't worry, oh, and the Go behind the line is inspired by one of my old time friends, Mrs. Hiebert. N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 22:23, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

congrats about number 1 in providing references!

Thread moved from my Talk page. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Hey CA, i want to congratulate you for being the number one person to provide references, great job! happy new year, N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line 09:10, 3 January 2011 (UTC) I also used your name in a joke, i chose a name out of 28 choices at random. If you like, you may remove the joke from sinebot's talk page. I also am trying to make you smile, i believe in making people feel good. Don't let the block get you down. If you want to ask a question at the reference desk while you are blocked, i'll put your talk page on my watch list and remember that it is the 28th on there. Regards, your wiki friend N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line 09:37, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you N.I.M. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

No problom, I always like making users feel good and or laugh. N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line 18:26, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Removed material

Hi N.I.M., I've just removed and revision-deleted a post you made at the Reference Desk talk page. Please don't ever mention a real-life person by name, at least one who does not have an encyclopedia article about them. You claimed to have "permission" to say her name; well fine, but then we have ways to assure that an actual person really wants their name brought up, through WP:OTRS. Other than that, please don't do it again or try to restore the name. Make your thoughts known without naming real-life names please. Franamax (talk) 05:59, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

I showed her this, and she says "Well, tell him that I say it's okay, and if they don't like it, they are going to hear about it. I gave you the line, and if Inna has a problom with it, fine, then she can leave you a message on your talk page, otherwise, they have no reason to complain. If they try to then you can give them my message, wait, i'll tell them my damn self. I gave you that line, end of storry." Sorry about "damn", that's just what she said. can you at least summarize my message? if they have more questions i'll be happy to answer it. N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 06:55, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Dear Misplaced Pages, This user has given me his permission to use his computer to post this message. I hope you try to understand it.

I understand you have a policy against using someone’s real name, however, if you are going to make a policy like that, you have to consider that there is the possibility that a certain someone, like me could give a user like NIM permission to say my name on the sight. I’m upset that your policy disregards the fact that I gave permission to use my name in the sight. This is not something to be messing around with; you can’t just assume that he’s making stuff up. This is an encyclopaedia, not a list of people bossing a user around, and I think that your policy needs to be changed slightly to something like this: “If someone gives their consent to use their name in a discussion, then a user may use the name.” I don’t really know your sight nor do I have time to read your policies, I’d be here all night, and I want to let NIM use his computer. I need a good reason why I cannot be credited for the line “Elena apostoleanu go behind the line.” I told NIM that if Inna has any problems with that, to stop using it, otherwise, continue using the line as part of a signature. We both watch comedy shows, so we generally like to be funny. I hope you understand my reason for disagreeing with your policy, sincerely, Mrs. Hiebert, January 8, 2011 at 1:12 am, goodnight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.112.104.172 (talk) 07:15, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

• N.I.M. a message posted anonymously on your own computer means absolutely nothing. If someone wants their name used here then they can use their own computer to create an account, verify their identity through our WP:OTRS system, and then make it known. Until then, it is not for you to assert you have "permission". This applies to both the name of the editor above (who seems to make the same type of spelling error as you do yourself) and to the name used in your signature. If that is also the name of a private living person, stop using it too. This is not least for your own protection, you are giving out enough information that I can show up outside your door. Franamax (talk) 16:49, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

You sure? I mean, it's not like you are one of those people from Reno 911 who come and arrest people for no reason. She said that she doesn't know about this sight, and for the record, she doesn't have her "own computer", so even if she wanted to she can't do that. I'm sure that you have no clue who i am so how are you supposed to show up at my dore or even know my name? If i said "My name is such and such" then you'd know to look for such and such, otherwise, anyone can say they're Nissae Isen's Man for the hell of it. Cuddlyable 3 wanted to know why i use that line at the end of my message, i told him but you said i coulden't use <x> first name, can i at least call her <xx> here? N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 18:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

No, you can't. You don't have to anyway, what she told you to do on Misplaced Pages is not relevant. Don't use the names of private living individuals unless they have identified themselves through WP:OTRS. Period. Franamax (talk) 19:11, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

At least i'm not using her full name, Mrs. hiebert is better then x>>> hiebert, right? remember, sinse you deleted the post, noone knows about her. She says that you're taking it seriously, but that's just her take on it. I understand but keep in mind she's not familiar with your guidelines. She's not saying they're stupid, she's saying "I said he can use my name.", and i have told her that you all say not to. She says to at least let me refer to her as Mrs. Hiebert, this way Cuddlyable 3 isn't wondering "Who what when where why?" N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 19:55, 9 January 2011 (UTC) I also hear that she wants you to not mess with her message, she feels you are just being rude, don't know why. Remember, she's not really familiar with this stuff, so you should excuse her ignorence. I changed it from Redacted, which i have no clue what it means, to Mrs. Hiebert, (no that's not her full name), and if that's against pollicy, i'm affraid any more messages from me will probibly come from her words. I can't make any judgements on this except for that i see why you object to her full name being use. I can't see why you object to just her last name with a MRS. or MS in front of it. I could be refering to any hiebert in the world that's a married female. Think about that before bleaping her name out. I don't agree with some of her posts, but why i insist on saying Mrs. Hiebert, is because the name is common and there i'm sure are many hieberts in yourarea, both male and female. It is vague enough that noone knows who she is, only her last name and that she's married, other then that, nothing else, except she gave me that line. Maybe you are a hiebert, maybe you're not. Regardless, it would be like if i refered to afriend by a name, let's say their full name was Anne Jones, i could either say Ann said or Ms. Jones said (name is ficticious), but i'm not saying Ann Jones said. Same thing with Mrs. Hiebert. If you'd rather me say Mrs. H then just let me know, How can i refer to her without being vague to the point of absolute confusion? I don't believe in confusing the hell out of people because it is a wrong thing to do, and a vary bad way of communication. N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 20:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

You're sure that Annika hasn't been using your computer again, aren't you? I think that a few editors with longer memories than you thought would be quite annoyed if you had. Britmax (talk) 21:34, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Mrs. H is much better. Do not use private individual's actual names in the future. I think that should close the topic. --Leivick (talk) 21:40, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Ok, and again, what does redacted mean, and like i said, George is no longer allowed to use my computer. Britmax, a short explaination for you here. Those edits refering to this what's it Annika person. My friend George (that's not his real name, but i'm calling him that) decided that he'd use my computer. He told me he was going online to play a game and see his point status or something, but after I checked his history in september, I realized that he was going on wikipedia, and got my IP blocked. I thought he was just messing around, which it turned out he was in the wrong way. I realized he was causing mischief and tricked him into teaching me how to use Misplaced Pages. After that, I started editing in september, and ordered him to put an end to this "Annika BS" He put a message saying that Annika is no and boyd. He didn't stop there though, in october he did a few edits, and in the beginning of November. I created an account around nov 15, and told George's parents that he is no longer allowed on my computer because of what he was doing, and his parents agreed and ordered him to never touch my computer again, and if he wants to do a game, he can mess around with someone else. The character of Annika comes from a novel we read when we were in english a few years ago. Cutoff ties has tried in every way to contradict him, but as i told him, it is true, no two ways about it. There, cleared up, done. Don't judge me by what George did with the IP, I now have a named account, and judgements by the named account can be made. If anyone contridicts this truth, they will be taken to An/i immediately. If anyone has another suggestion on what to do with users who contradict the truth, let me know and i'll report there instead. N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 22:11, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line

I moved this thread from my talk page. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 20:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

The message was givven to me by a close friend and former T.A. of mine, who often liked to be funny. A thing i used to do was at bussline, i'd wait in front of the pink line by the road, and ms. hiebert would do a Trudy Wiegel inpression saying "Hey, uh, yeah, can you, uh, oh, go behind the line?" So later, I told her that I was trying to create a new signature, and she asked me a list of my favorite singers. I coulden't choose a dj, it had to be someone who actualy sings, and i was choosing between

• Kerri Kenney
• Inna
• Anna Burardi
• Katherine Ellis
• Barbra Tucker
• and Annie Lennox.

Inna was chosen, so, now, that signature was born! Mrs. hiebert said that if Inna leaves me a message on my talk page asking me to stop, then stop. "Only stop if it is Inna, no matter what." I can't judge why she said that, but probibly because that's Inna's real name, she means that if Inna has a problom with it, then she can tell me, if not, continue. There, hope that cleared it up, any questions, just ask me and i'll be happy to answer, best regards, N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 07:47, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages will not wait until a living person tells you to stop. The reason is that the foundation is very careful not to allow anyone to break the WP:BLP rules. That is because the whole Misplaced Pages project, meaning the millions of article that we have been working on for years, could be brought down by just one lawyer trying to sue us for something a person objected to. It doesn't matter what Mrs. Hiebert or even Ms. Apostoleanu actually think about it. Nobody is allowed here to attach a personal message in their name and I know for certain that if I did it, I would get blocked or banned. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 20:51, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

People do put messages like what baceball bugs and other such users put at the bottom of their signatures, and i don't see anyone complaining about them, so i don't see why you need the background on the line. Inna doesn't even know about it, so how can she send her agent after. She doesn't know, yepper. N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 23:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

I am sure that nobody cares to hear about the background to the personal message that you keep sending with your signature. It is unecessary and annoying to see that added to your every post. People are telling you that it is a serious matter for Misplaced Pages that you stop now. I see you defending yourself with strawman claims such as the one about BaseballBugs (who is not allowed to break Misplaced Pages policies), and what you think you can get away with behind the singer's back. Just as singers have to be protected from over-obsessive fans, Misplaced Pages has to be protected from a person who blindly pursues their own agenda. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 22:23, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Obviously you have a problom with excessive pranking. Don't say you don't have a problom with excessive pranking because you do have a problom with excessive pranking. How do i know you have a problom with excessive pranking? Judging by your comments, You think the singer can somehow find out, and you're saying it is against wikipedia pollicy gives me a reason to tell you that you have a problom with excessive pranking. I dare you to send inna after me, then that will confirm that you have a problom with excessive pranking. Stop with all this excessive pranking, or the excessive pranking will turn on to th e one with the problom with excessive pranking. N.I.M. I miss you nissae! Elena Apostoleanu go behind the line. 22:36, 9 January 2011 (UTC)