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| ==Personal attacks== | |||
| I have removed the personal attacks you had on this page. The freedom that users are given on their user page does not extend to ]. ] (]) 02:53, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == December 2012 == | |||
| <div class="user-block" style="min-height: 40px"> ] You have been ''']''' from editing for a period of '''3 days''' for violating ] more than once. I already gave you a final warning, and yet you are failing to stop. If you cannot edit civilly and follow our other policies, you cannot edit at all. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to ]. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may ] by adding below this notice the text <!-- Copy the text as it appears on your page, not as it appears in this edit area. Do not include the "tlx|" code. -->{{tlx|unblock|2=reason=''Your reason here ~~~~''}}, but you should read the ] first. ] (]) 02:59, 30 December 2012 (UTC)</div><!-- Template:uw-block --> | |||
| :And if you think for some reason I'm ], explain that in an unblock request and another admin will respond. ] (]) 03:03, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Well never mind, as it just happens i am busy, and it's holiday for me. | |||
| I understand, and thank you for your message.--] ] 05:27, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| And wait, why does my talk page matter so much to everybody, isn't this none of your business or what?--] ] 05:35, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Qwyrxian, what i did really matter so much to get me blocked? i didn't know, and i think it not such a big deal right?--] ] 05:38, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| {{unblock reviewed | 1=I sincerely, and deeply understand what i have done and i admit i was frustrated by Inks.LWC, to a point i couldn't think clearly. I understand i didn't see the polices, and it will not be done again, but i think i really don't deserve a 3 day block. Well, Merry Christmas and a Happy, Lucky, prosperous new year to the year 2013 everybody. ] ] 05:46, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | decline=Not knowing isn't really a defense in my opinion; you were warned multiple times. If you are unable to handle frustration without attacking others or thinking clearly, you really should consider the block period a forced wikibreak. ] - ] 07:40, 30 December 2012 (UTC)}} | |||
| Okay, i understand. | |||
| --] ] 10:46, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| {{unblock reviewed | 1=Okay, okay, all the guides that other users taught me will be learned and '''won't be done again''', which will be a promise. I now just want to contribute to the wikiproject Hong Kong and tropicalcyclones, such as updating it with new information and contribute to the expansion of articles if i am unblocked. I've also created some articles about plants as shown in my userpage which i would very much like to expand them. It would be nice, if i am unblocked within 2 hours of this message, and i'll do my best to be a better Wikipedian. -] ] 10:54, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | decline=I'm not doubting the sincerity - but there's nothing in this unblock request that actually addresses the reasons for the block - merely some general "oh, I read thanks" type statements. It certainly would take more than this short time to have read and digested all of them, and of course to have created a good unblock request - especially when, as one says, is away on holiday. Take the entire 3 day block: read, understand, act differently when it expires. The articles will still be there (]''']''']) 11:17, 30 December 2012 (UTC)}} | |||
| {{unblock reviewed | 1=Oh please, why should i take the 3 day block? i understand, i have read, i have learned, i have changed, i have promise and i mean i really did it. I got something really urgent to do in the wikiproject tropical cyclones and i got to do it now. and i hope you get it that i'm okay. For once?--] ] 12:45, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | decline=If it's something urgent you can describe it here, and then other users will take care of it for you. You will not be unblocked, and further requests will only result in you loosing the ability to edit this page for the duration of the block. ] - ] 14:20, 30 December 2012 (UTC)}} | |||
| You should take your 3 day block because you have been very uncivil at times, calling certain edits of Inks.LWC's and mine edits vandalism when their not after we have explained to you why we have made the edit. You have also attacked Inks.LWC, when he has reverted or reworked your edits for various valid reasons which include removing any false information that you have added. After reading through your user talk page (ie the page people use to communicate with you), the comment "what i did really matter so much to get me blocked?" convinces me even further that you have not learnt your lesson and that you need a block until the time you can demonstrate that you have learnt that you can respect other people.] (]) 13:01, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| == Blocked for one week == | |||
| I've extended the block to one week from now for creating ]. You seem to have a clue problem here. You can't just create a new sockpuppet because you feel like editing. This is completely unacceptable behavior. You have been blocked, not this ''account'' but '''you'''. This means you don't create a new account, you don't edit as an IP, you don't edit at all. Be smart, take the week off, then come back and edit and deal with the problems that let to both of these blocks. I've been as generous as I can with only blocking one week. If you continue to sock, create accounts or edit as an IP during this block, your block will be extended or made indefinite. Just take the week off. ] - ] ] <small><b>]</b></small> 16:20, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Wait wait wait, i really didn't create that account, is they a way to prove it?! I really would never do such a thing!--] ] 22:37, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| : user page. Lying about making an account is pretty bad. You should stop digging into a hole further. --♫ ] (<small>]</small>) 22:42, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| I'm not lying, can anybody, if there is, please check this thing for me? I swear that i gone to bed last night and now i just woke up to see me accused of making another account! I accept my block, but can anyone please prove that User:Earth101 isn't made by me? | |||
| And i got a feeling, and suspecting that it is another User, possibly User:Meow or someone who made it. | |||
| Sincerely, | |||
| Earth100.--] ] 22:47, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Can anyone please prove me Innocent? --] ] 22:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| *You can't prove a negative. You can use an unblock template and request review, but I strongly advise you to be very careful in how you do this, as your talk page is already populated with several of these. ] - ] ] <small><b>]</b></small> 22:51, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::To be fair, Earth100's argument does make some sense. Looking at his posting history, only once in his posting history has he posted later in the day than 16:00 UTC (other than to resume posting later on around 22:00 or 23:00). That being said, if what Earth101 said was true, and he registered via proxy, how would we ever be able to know? But I thought the Misplaced Pages software doesn't allow proxy registration or editing... Just my 2 cents. ] (]) 22:53, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :::Admin, but i don't even know the password to the account, and i never even thought of doing it! Please admin, is they a way to prove negative?--] ] 22:56, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| I've just checked my IP address on the internet by using blogger, and it shows mine is currently '''23.0.1271.97'''. Could this make any help? --] ] 23:02, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Well that can't be right. 1271 is not a possible number in an IP address. ] (]) 23:08, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::My blogger account can check my IP and it shows it like that.--] ] 23:09, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :::I'd double check that. Numbers in an IP address range from 0 to 255, so 1271 can't be one of the numbers in your IP address. ] (]) 23:12, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Is there any other way to check my IP address? I need, to prove that Earth101 is not created by me.--] ] 23:14, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| I've just checked Google and it shows it is '''218.250.67.151'''. | |||
| It turns out my blog is only showing my current browser on Chrome.--] ] 23:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :According to ], requests for Checkuser to "prove your innocence" "are rarely accepted, please do not ask". But as "Earth101" said, that person allegedly registered via proxy, so the IPs would likely be different, and it could not be proven who made the Earth101 account. ] (]) 23:21, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Thank You very much Inks.LWC, i hope their would be a way to prove it. | |||
| Just to inform you users, that i'll be offline in around 10 minutes as i got something to do.. I'll return to this talk page around 5~6 hours later.--] ] 23:22, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| *{{ec}} You don't need to reveal any IP address, which I can't verify anyway. I have days that I edit from 3 different locations 1000 miles from each other, so having different IPs by itself isn't what "proves" anything, good or bad. I already provided you with the information to get your block reviewed, and you can ask for a CU to check, but they seldom will to prove innocence for the reasons I stated. ] - ] ] <small><b>]</b></small> 23:26, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank you every body who gave suggestions and discussed. This is the final message until 6 hours-(Could User:Meow's via proxy be checked?) --] ] 23:28, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| I think that he could be telling the truth about Earth101 not being created by him. I am friends with Earth100 and I don't think he did it. This is not something he would do. If only we could prove it. | |||
| (Leeboy100 23:49, 30 December 2012 (UTC)) | |||
| ::*I located a CU, who is now reviewing. That doesn't guarantee they will comment or run a CU, however. ] - ] ] <small><b>]</b></small> 23:57, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
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| Leeboy100 23:50, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
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| == Checkuser == | |||
| A Checkuser, ] has run a CU on the two accounts in question, Earth100 and Earth101. Unsurprisingly, the IPs don't match, but we didn't expect they would since Earth101 clearly said they were using a proxy IP in their unblock request. Separate CU action on that IP is likely. The Checkuser declined to overturn and instructed that behavior should be used to make a determination. This was expected. Based on the available information, including statements since the block, I maintain that it is very likely the two accounts are the same person, thus I would decline to change my block. Of course, any admin is free to review and make their own determination, contact the CU or myself if they want ], and/or act without my permission. Earth100 should follow the guidance found in the ] if they wish to appeal this block. ] - ] ] <small><b>]</b></small> 01:02, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Is there anyway of being able to figure out if the IP address is Meows or not since Earth100 is alleging up above that Meow is the one who opened the account.] (]) 01:11, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::Earth100 would have to talk to the CU, and present enough evidence to justify running the checkuser process, or start an SPI investigation and supply the diffs there. ] - ] ] <small><b>]</b></small> 01:15, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :::For some micro-behavioral (linguistic/typographical) reasons, I actually don't think that Earth100 and Earth101 are the same user. I can reveal them to a CU privately, but I don't want to post them here since I don't want to help the likely ]. I'll email Dennis Brown with the details as a start. ] (]) 03:29, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Thank You very much Qwyrxian, for your different, alternative view point on me, as i am a good man, and will never do extremely bad acts.--] ] 04:58, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| :Look everybody, i accept my 3 day block as i really did violated a law, | |||
| but a block for a week? To me i fink something fishy is going on, as i have totally no idea of anything of the Earth101 account. I understand, and deserve the 3 day block, but i'm honest that there's noting to do with me of the Earth101 account, and i hope there is a prove for it. | |||
| I've got things to do but now i got to wait a whole week.--] ] 04:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| ::I've talked to Dennis Brown off-wiki. One thing we agree on is that it's actually very hard to make a determination either way, since the Earth101 account made very few edits so there's not much behavioral evidence to go on, and, as already explained above, the technical evidence doesn't help. Dennis Brown still thinks the two accounts are likely operated by the same person, but also offered to let me reduce the block if I was more confident of the difference. Since to me the evidence if ambiguous, I'm willing to assume that the account was legitimately not yours. I'm going to reduce your block to approximately the original three days (plus or minus a few hours in case I don't get my math right). Note that none of this changes the fact that your behavior ''must'' change upon your return regarding the reasons that I originally blocked you. If you do find yourself getting frustrated by another user, either walk away from Misplaced Pages until you feel better, or ask an experienced user (including me, if you like) for help. In addition, please do make sure that you've fully digested how serious we are about ] and ]. Specifically in your case, that means that you can't put in any information based upon what you can figure out from reading a satellite photo, based on your extensive knowledge of how storm systems develop, etc. If you want to add something, find a source that says precisely the information that you want to add. Again, ask for help if you're not certain, or if you think something is safe to add but aren't sure, try proposing it on the article talk page first. ] (]) 09:19, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Okay, thank you very much Qwyrxian! I will listen to all the advice i am given.--] ] 09:27, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| **To verify, what Qwyrxian says is completely correct. As he is more familiar with the style of the editor, I trust his judgement here. I would also encourage you to take his advice to heart. ] - ] ] <small><b>]</b></small> 13:55, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
| Okay, i will take his advice to heart. Happy new year 2013 admins!--] ] 22:52, 31 December 2012 (UTC) | |||
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