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::As I told you, and as you can find from checking the rules on the DRM page, participants are not supposed to comment on other users' behaviour at DRM. I don't understand why you think I should break that rule. Anyway, I presented you with evidence, and you ignored it, so there is not much more I can do. Bye. ] (]) 23:18, 20 January 2013 (UTC) | ::As I told you, and as you can find from checking the rules on the DRM page, participants are not supposed to comment on other users' behaviour at DRM. I don't understand why you think I should break that rule. Anyway, I presented you with evidence, and you ignored it, so there is not much more I can do. Bye. ] (]) 23:18, 20 January 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::Josh, you've misunderstood. DRN is meant for content, not user behavior, true. However, ANI '''is''' about user behavior, and '''not''' content. The discussion on ANI required you to substantiate your claims, which you were told several times. — <b>]</span>:<sup>]</sup></b> 13:05, 21 January 2013 (UTC) | :::Josh, you've misunderstood. DRN is meant for content, not user behavior, true. However, ANI '''is''' about user behavior, and '''not''' content. The discussion on ANI required you to substantiate your claims, which you were told several times. — <b>]</span>:<sup>]</sup></b> 13:05, 21 January 2013 (UTC) | ||
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::::I explained to the above administrator that the WP:DRM rules require me not to discuss user behaviour. I bent over backwards to follow that rule and not point out that Elvenscout742 had been carrying out a month-long campaign of harassment against me. Yet TParis has repeated that claim above. TParis should apologize to me for impuning my character like that, and for not knowing the rules of DRM, as he perhaps should do if he is an administrator. I also explained on the ANI talk page that the user had initialized the hounding of me by moving pages, and further disruptively editing pages by adding original research claims then creating huge arguments on talk pages. I did indeed give appropriate links at the ANI. The admin above did not respond when I gave details of how the harassment by Elvenscout742 started, despite giving links to the moved pages. Since he twice demonstrated unwillingness to listen, what response am I supposed to make? ] (]) 23:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC) |
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UKA Press
Hello Joshua, I just wanted to thank you for your words of encouragement on the UKA Press 'deletion' page. There are plenty of third party references out there (notably by the BFI, amongst others), but I'm afraid it will now take too long to present them, and it looks as if we are set for deletion. We publish the works of the UK's (possibly the worlds) leading film historian, television documentary-maker, author, and Academy Award recipient, so it seems pretty odd that we are not considered 'notable' enough to warrant a Misplaced Pages article, but that's life I suppose. Thanks anyway, your words were appreciated.AndreaUKA (talk) 13:14, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- There doesn't seem to be. That's the problem. JoshuSasori (talk) 00:58, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
James Bond (film character)
Last September you commented on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/James Bond (film character). Please now see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/James Bond (film character) (2nd nomination). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:54, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Season's tidings!
To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 14:00, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Merry Merry
Season's Greetings, JoshuSasori! At this wonderful time of year, I would like to give season’s greetings to all the fellow Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past! May you have a wonderful holiday season! MarnetteD | Talk 18:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC) |
- Also best wishes for your 2013 and happy editing whenever possible :-) MarnetteD | Talk 18:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, same to you. JoshuSasori (talk) 09:00, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
Marusa no Onna
No, this was not discussed on the talk pages, but whether or not "A Taxing Woman 2" exists was. I had said both titles are completely irrelevant because there was no proper release of either film. Unfortunately, you win this time, as there are cheap shovelware imports for both films with these titles, the publishers of which are all too happy to just toss in some subs and be done with it.
Irrelevant, but... all of the policies and websites in the world cannot get in the way of an official release, and even official releases can never get in the way of the whatever the original title might be, something Misplaced Pages should always be adhering to, no matter the language of origin; you certainly can't be a Japanophile to appreciate that. Despatche (talk) 08:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
- Please read MOS:FILM, MOS:JAPAN for guidance on naming of films. The policy is to use the English-language title. Please also discuss on the talk page of the article if possible. If you want to discuss the naming, then please go to the talk page of that article and state your case. I appreciate your input and value your opinions. JoshuSasori (talk) 09:00, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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Quick and Accurate Edit in the "Django Unchained" Plot Section
Just verifying that the edit to the Plot section on http://en.wikipedia.org/Django_Unchained is accurate (or at least more accurate than what was there before). Happy New Year! Porpoiseman (talk) 03:32, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- The same to you sir. JoshuSasori (talk) 03:42, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Wiki-notices
You should ease back on imposing wiki-notices so easily, and focus more on editing. It would save time if you do this because not many pay attention to those notices, especially when they don't specifically outline what's wrong in the first place. A generic "not in accordance with MOS" notice is basically unhelpful. Having numerous wiki-notices in Misplaced Pages pages isn't good, because they are putting a dent in readers' faith and confidence in Misplaced Pages. You don't like how an amendment appears? Edit it yourself, or raise the issue in the entry's Talk page or user's Talk page. In short, please use wiki-notices a lot more sparingly. Thanks. 0zero9nine (talk) 08:38, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- I can't find a single example of a tag like that. You'll have to be much more specific. What wikinotices are you complaining about? "MOSLOW"? "citation needed"? If you don't agree with the notices, I suggest you remove them yourself. Do you see anywhere that I state that I have the intention of increasing people's faith and confidence in Misplaced Pages? Why do you think I want to do that? Given a free hand I would gladly delete about half of the articles I read. JoshuSasori (talk) 08:43, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- Also your comment is very rude, I do a huge amount of editing here. I don't have time or expertise to edit every article, so I tag so that people can find problems. You ought to be more respectful to other editors. JoshuSasori (talk) 09:01, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I concur with 0zero9nine. I don't talk much as your characteristic is aggressive. Please use a template sparingly, unless you cannot improve the article by yourself. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 09:15, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- No, you both should tag problems up so they can be fixed. If you put a tag on the article or section, then volunteers from various groups come to fix the problems. It's also important so that people who aren't aware of the policies can be made aware of them. I'm not aggressive at all, why do you think so? It's very rude. JoshuSasori (talk) 09:54, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- Here are just some of my edits from today and yesterday:
- Complete cleanup of Nagisa Oshima, including references: (also cleanup of talk page).
- Partial cleanup of Keiko Kishi filmography: .
- Multiple editing (new material, edit requests, plot tidy) on Django Unchained:
- Add a completely new section and fill out most of filmography as actor to Juzo Itami and clean up article:
- Remove vandalism on article.
- Answer a talk page request on Toru Iwatani which went unanswered for TWO YEARS until today.
- Propose an article move for Soka Gakkai in line with the organization's own name.
- I'm extremely offended by someone saying I should edit articles more. JoshuSasori (talk) 10:31, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I concur with 0zero9nine. I don't talk much as your characteristic is aggressive. Please use a template sparingly, unless you cannot improve the article by yourself. ―― Phoenix7777 (talk) 09:15, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- I apologise for appearing rude earlier, which wasn't my intention. I wasn't talking about your editing other pages; nor was I complaining about the notices/tags. I wasn't even talking about you lagging on editing (sorry for not being clear on that). What I meant is, when you see a new edit that doesn't meet the standards, edit it if minor or leave a note at editor's Talk page if major. If the editor doesn't return to edit for at least a month or whenever, tag it.
- Basically, I was concerned that you seem to impose a notice so shortly after a new edit/amendment is made. Don't you think it's better to leave a new edit alone, for at least a week, in case the editor will return to make further changes? If one continues putting notices/tags on new edits so quickly, it could antagonise editors into either quitting editing or fighting with you. You don't need that hassle, do you?
- I feel it'd be more productive to leave notices/tags in neglected and badly done pages, e.g. no one has edited those pages for more than six months. This could attract editors' attention and hopefully motivate them into editing those neglected pages.
- Until now, I had no idea that I can remove those notices. I had assumed a mod or such would be the one to remove them after inspecting old/new edits. I'm willing to bet that I'm not the only one, because there are still so many old notices/tags, dating back to 2007, in spite of recent improvements on some pages since then. Perhaps we should look at those old notices/tags and see if they are still needed. Remove if the page has improved or update the tag if not. Thanks. 0zero9nine (talk) 10:45, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- I created a very big watchlist (everything to do with Japanese cinema except monster, j-horror, and pink) and I check all edits on all pages I watch. It's quite common that when I am checking an edit, I find another unrelated problem with the article and tag it. It's very likely I tagged the article right after someone edited it because I only noticed the unrelated issue when checking their edit. Please check whether the tagging I did is actually related to the edit or not. Regarding the notices, you can remove notices if you think they do not apply. Usually the protocol is to give a reason in the edit summary. JoshuSasori (talk) 11:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- So it's coincidental in most cases? In that case, I apologise for leaping to my conclusion. Having said that, I appreciate your explanation and clarifications. Thanks. 0zero9nine (talk) 12:34, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
- Also tagging with "citation needed" on new additions to articles is to encourage people to reference what they say. Especially dubious content. It's important to do this. There is also "or" for original research, but it's important to understand what that would mean. JoshuSasori (talk) 11:18, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- I'm a huge fan of "citation needed", actually. :D I certainly agree that it's needed for extraordinary or dubious statements. 0zero9nine (talk) 12:34, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
- This is why it's useful: JoshuSasori (talk) 11:29, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- I created a very big watchlist (everything to do with Japanese cinema except monster, j-horror, and pink) and I check all edits on all pages I watch. It's quite common that when I am checking an edit, I find another unrelated problem with the article and tag it. It's very likely I tagged the article right after someone edited it because I only noticed the unrelated issue when checking their edit. Please check whether the tagging I did is actually related to the edit or not. Regarding the notices, you can remove notices if you think they do not apply. Usually the protocol is to give a reason in the edit summary. JoshuSasori (talk) 11:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
Removing notices
E.g. this . JoshuSasori (talk) 01:04, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. Much appreciated. 0zero9nine (talk) 12:34, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Talkback
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Odie5533 (talk) 02:26, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
Rolls-Royce Merlin
Please be a little more careful with deleting material in a Featured Article, particularly material which is properly cited according to wikipedia guidelines, and which has been in the article for over two years with no objections, until now. AFAIK there is nothing wrong with including a brief account of the modern history of historical sites, which helps place them in context. ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 09:09, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- No, I will stick with my opinion, that is going way off the topic. JoshuSasori (talk) 09:18, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- Also, there are some really awful featured articles. Off the top of my head: Moors Murders, Branded to Kill. Please be more careful when adding inane things to Misplaced Pages articles. JoshuSasori (talk) 09:21, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- Why does it make any difference if it is cited? If I add irrelevant information to an article, being cited has nothing to do with it. I went to re-read the article again and the two parts I deleted stick out like a sore thumb. Anyone who is competent at writing English prose can see that they break the flow of the text. And why do you come and leave this kind of bossy message on my talk page? This is annoying. JoshuSasori (talk) 09:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- I'm "adding inane things to Misplaced Pages articles"? Do tell, please point them out and explain their inanity to this poor ign'rant peasant. You have contributed absolutely nothing to the article in the past, so what's wrong with saying what you intend doing on the article's talk page, and possibly reaching a compromise, before wielding the knife? ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 10:39, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- You're also adding inane things to Misplaced Pages talk pages. JoshuSasori (talk) 11:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- I'm "adding inane things to Misplaced Pages articles"? Do tell, please point them out and explain their inanity to this poor ign'rant peasant. You have contributed absolutely nothing to the article in the past, so what's wrong with saying what you intend doing on the article's talk page, and possibly reaching a compromise, before wielding the knife? ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 10:39, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
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Mariko Ogawa
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In the Realm of the Senses
According to all 17 film reference books in my collection, the "U.S. version" was never titled as "Realm of the Senses". For example, both the NYT article Is Senses in the Realm of Pornography? (July 31st, 1977) and An interview with Nagisa Oshima by Ruth McCormick (Cineaste 4, no. 2, 1976-1977) credit the film as In the Realm of the Senses. I also checked to see if any of U.S. editions (theatrical, VHS and DVD, uncut and censored) of the film was released under a different title e.g. Realm of the Senses and couldn't find any reference. A clarification or another source is needed if removing the alleged UK/US claim isn't a good idea. Thanks. 0zero9nine (talk) 02:35, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm lost. I changed this to tone down the "incorrect" part of the section, because usually film titles of foreign films might be creatively translated or even retitled. I haven't changed anything about what the US version is titled, can you check the edit history again and respond. JoshuSasori (talk) 02:37, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- I know what you did, which isn't the issue. I found whoever (not you) made that claim odd because there's nothing to back the US/UK claim up. I wasn't sure if I could remove it in case you would object and change it back. Hence, the explanation why I thought the claim should be removed. 0zero9nine (talk) 02:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, OK, sorry, I misunderstood why you put this on my talk page. Sorry about that! JoshuSasori (talk) 02:46, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- No worries. My fault for jumping in without explaining why I brought it to your attention, anyway. Cheers. 0zero9nine (talk) 02:52, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Oh, OK, sorry, I misunderstood why you put this on my talk page. Sorry about that! JoshuSasori (talk) 02:46, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- I know what you did, which isn't the issue. I found whoever (not you) made that claim odd because there's nothing to back the US/UK claim up. I wasn't sure if I could remove it in case you would object and change it back. Hence, the explanation why I thought the claim should be removed. 0zero9nine (talk) 02:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Also, if this is about a specific page, could you put the comments on the talk page for that page? The problem with putting it on my talk page is that other editors cannot see what we are discussing. I think your input above is valuable, so it would be better addressed to all editors, on the talk page of the article, rather than just to me. Thanks. JoshuSasori (talk) 02:39, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- Fine. 0zero9nine (talk) 02:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- I've tagged the article, let's see if anyone provides evidence, or you can just remove the parts of the text if you want to. JoshuSasori (talk) 03:07, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
- OK I tagged the article, did you want to do anything about this? I'm not really sure what is going on here. You said that you wanted to remove it and you were worried I would restore it. I'm not really sure why I would restore that or why you think I would restore that, but I told you I didn't and even went and tagged up the article for you, and you haven't yet done anything about this article. I'm not really sure what this discussion is about. I even put a notice on the talk page for you to respond under, and you didn't. It's a bit strange for me, what am I supposed to do here? Why did you ask me about on my talk page? I feel like a fool for tagging that page now. JoshuSasori (talk) 09:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
- Fine. 0zero9nine (talk) 02:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
WP:DRN request
Hey JS. Regarding our current dispute on some Japanese cinema articles, I posted a dispute resolution request at Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution noticeboard#Ugetsu, Sansho the Bailiff, Taboo (1999 film). Please get involved in the dispute resolution. Thanks! elvenscout742 (talk) 03:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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January 2013You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for persistent disruptive editing. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}} , but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. v/r - TP 17:48, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
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