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Crowder

What do you feel "we" need to resolve regarding Crowder's page? I see that you have been repeatedly told not to attack other editors, and you continue to use profane language in regards to me and/or my edits. I have not reported you...yet. The INFERENCE of a racial epithet satisfies the requirement regarding the controversy without resorting to racially inflammatory language. I personally don't think even that needs to be included, but feel it is a fair compromise for those that DID infer it. On the other hand, this is such a minor part of his life and career maybe it shouldn't be included at all, since it was only at a political conference and meant for its attendees. I mean, we don't include every time other comedians say, elude, or imply a profanity. That may be the best option, deleting everything other than he made the video, and let the READERS decide on their own.

Otherwise, in "office talk", please explain what you want to talk about? JohnKAndersen (talk) 11:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)JohnKAndersen

• Why do you so slavishly want to avoid the import of his knickers joke? He looks at a black guy in the video and says basically "what? I can say knickers, I'm wearing them". Its a reference to the use of the term "nigger" in rap music, to deny that is to deny common sense. He is not using it as an epithet, and anyone who didn't "infer" what the joke was is not credible. That being said, if you want to discuss the matter further, let's do it on the talk page of the article itself. It may well be that Crowder isn't notable at all and shouldn't have an article if events like this are not notable. I'm open to discussion on that chers. BTW, re attacks on other editors, you'll see I have an extremely favorable track record when I engage with editors, I'm not afraid to call bullshit when I see it, but I am reasonable.--Milowent • 13:45, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

I don't find the bullying and foul language "reasonable". My references were to the various warnings that you've gotten from admins.

Re:Crowder I think the current version completely deleting that one indcident out of an entire career is best. I don't understand that THERE MUST BE CONSENSUS, in other words, you want two people who simply do not agree on a point to agree. Even if things are as you say, does that merit inclusion in his article? Every double-entendre that every commedian says should be on their page? I think deletion in the best option. Also, just like anyone else's personal page, their basic bio is at the top. Why does this keep being moved around to the bottom?!

I will change that and believe that this is the best compromise, deleting the event that can have more than one interpretation, from his entry. JohnKAndersen (talk) 00:29, 13 January 2013 (UTC)JohnKAndersen

Jessica Dykstra

A while ago you participated in the deletion discussion for a model named Jessica Dykstra. I've recently been made aware that she is making her major motion picture debut in Pain and Gain with the Rock and Mark Wahlberg. --Johnny Spasm (talk) 03:30, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting conspiracy theories

Hi Milowent, I'm sure your edits to Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting conspiracy theories were in good faith, but I'm concerned they don't conform to NPOV. While these theories are certainly worthy of ridicule, I don't think it's appropriate to present them that way in an encyclopedia. Check similar articles, such as Oklahoma City bombing conspiracy theories and 9/11 conspiracy theories, for examples. Best, BDD (talk) 23:56, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

• Doesn't a picture make the article more interesting though?. I am bit concerned by the use of the passive voice in the article now, because we don't identify the purveyor of these theories as internet whackjobs (or whatever the diplomatic term for that it).--Milowent • 00:17, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

I think the closest thing we can do without violating policy is to report criticism of the theories that has been published in reliable sources. I've tried to represent some of that with existing sources, but you're welcome to expand on those. Just remember, with articles like these, it's best if just about every sentence is supported by a ref. --BDD (talk) 00:23, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Millowent, I respect you as an editor, but you are developing a bad habit of editing to make a WP:POINT. Just because you don't like a topic, don't sabotage it. Gaijin42 (talk) 00:27, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

• Gaijin42, not sure what you are talking about. Obviously I knew the tinfoil hat would be reverted, but its a cautionary tale we all need to keep in mind with an article like that.--Milowent • 02:57, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Was referring to your edits/!votes on the defensive gun use article, adding in slave owners/overseers killing slaves, and arguing for inclusion of Nazi's killing escaping Jews. If you knew something would be reverted, thats disruptive isn't it? Gaijin42 (talk) 03:02, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

My edits to the defensive gun use article were sound, the article was making it sound like all defensive gun use is a good thing, when in actuality it is dependent on the context, since you had a problem with my additions. On the instant article, I was being WP:BOLD, but as that says "Don't get upset if your bold edits get deleted."--Milowent • 03:10, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Crowder Article

Finally got Andersen to start talking on the talk page. Currently trying to get him to understand the concept of "consensus". 5minutes (talk) 14:19, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I never had a problem understanding the meaning of the word consensus. My problem was that for some reason some people's opinions were considered a "consensus", while those that were disagreed with were not. I'd much rather it be fact-based than a consensus of opinions, but it was the best that could be done, considering. So we ALL will have to deal with a much less substantial and factual entry. Better to get 75% of something than nothing. JohnKAndersen (talk) 09:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)JohnKAndersen

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• oh, for pete's sake.--Milowent • 15:36, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Collaboration for the Signpost

Hi Milowent. I've created a (empty) draft space at User:West.andrew.g/Popular_pages/Signpost. Let's collaborate there on the Signpost article, for which I'd like you to be a full fledged co-author. I've got lots of business travel ongoing, so we'll need to press in order to get this done for a Saturday(?) deadline. Let's continue the discussion over there. Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 18:04, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I think I am done for the night. I know I've made a ton of edits today, but I'd appreciate your feedback and extension on anything I've written. I'm not looking to push any particular story/agenda/outline, just excited and trying to be proactive about our start! Be bold! In particular, I think you'll be valuable in taking my technical and lofty research language and turning it into something accessible by the broader WP community. Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 00:56, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Look forward to working on it! My time on Friday may be limited, but should be able to bring it together on Saturday, and we'll see where we are then. My article creations have run the gamut from the Trillion dollar coin to The Annoying Orange so I bet I can find some good angles!--Milowent • 03:43, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Between the user and talk pages, I have now sketched out most of what I wanted to show/say. There is obviously lots of formatting, wiki-fication, and language-level stuff to take care of, but I am happy as a conceptual unit. Get in there and say what you think is important and modify anything/everything. I tend to commit changes early/often, so I hope my frequent editing isn't discouraging you. Since you haven't done the weeks top-25, I am imagining something else is keeping you for the time being (and that's fine). Are we going to push for this week or next in the Signpost? Thanks, West.andrew.g (talk) 00:57, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

I hope to finish the top 25 in the next hour or so, unexpected events at home have caused some delays. Will also see what I can do with text. There are a lot of concepts and topics covered so far in the draft, but its easy for SP editors to suggest cutting down if necessary I guess.--Milowent • 01:42, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

New Top 25 list is complete, at WP:5000/Top25Report.--Milowent • 02:55, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Pageview stats data may be wrong

as discussed here and here. LittleBen (talk) 03:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

• Ben, what do you mean exactly? That the stats.grok.se data is incorrect at times (if huge spikes are seen in charts), right? Not WP:5000? (Btw, if stats.grok.se aggregates redirects, it would have included the big spike in Wsn at Wireless sensor network, but did not).--Milowent • 05:08, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

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• Fascinating how you so deftly joined wikipedia to do that!--Milowent • 18:28, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

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• Hot jam Milowent, your cheese jihadist joke apparently has a longer shelf life than File:Easy cheese2.jpg!--Jezebel'sPonyo 22:31, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

• LOL, an arbitration over the pizza cheese jihadist joke? I can't think of anything better to spice up the WP:SIGNPOST reporting than that! I better see if Gloria Allred is available to defend me.--Milowent • 23:48, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

• You might find this lovely lady to be a more suitable advocate. Who can remain angry in the face of a jovial bovine?--Jezebel'sPonyo 23:57, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

• Very moooving of you! True, but I was kinda hoping for an outpouring of "Statement by ____" sections all stating "MILO WENDT GRADUATES!". I really need to do a blogpost on that cultural highpoint, something to match my "Better Than Cats" investigation. Can you (and you too pbp, if you're watching, seriously...) google "better than cats" and see how far down that blog of mine appears in your results. Its number 1 in mine, but google may be tailoring to me.--Milowent • 15:05, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Your blog comes up number 1 for me as well! --Jezebel'sPonyo 17:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Sweet! Andy Warhol was wrong; everyone does not have 15 minutes of fame, but everyone can have lasting fame on a topic of interest to 15 people in the world.--Milowent • 17:44, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

1. 1 for me too. CallawayRox (talk) 19:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Friends don't call friends cheese jihadists

FYI, I went 3-2-1 on that list. Surprisingly, being called a cheese jihadist is not the worst I've gotten from ARS. There was the time a few months back when Callaway responded to everything I said with, "Purplebackpack89 should be blocked". Then there's the rainbow king of keep, the duke of disruption, the foxhound of false hounding claims... But, yes, I do think a little time away from AfD would be beneficial. pbp 06:59, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I've revised my comments to not put you in the same category as the rainbow warrior and his pet rock. But, for the love of God, would you please stop bringing up Cheese Jihadist over and over again? Even if we accept it as a joke, it's a joke that got old months ago pbp 07:07, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

I didn't make the joke the basis of an arbitration request! But "the rainbow warrior and his pet rock", I don't know, that's pretty bad, you might be permabanned.--Milowent • 13:02, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Thanks for producing your weekly top 25 list. I'd looked for something like that in the past, but didn't know about this list until I saw it mentioned in the Signpost SchreiberBike (talk) 01:53, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! I've been looking for similar stats myself for a long time too, luckily I found User:West.andrew.g, who had the ability to create the Top 5000 needed to get the project going.--Milowent • 04:14, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Ed  02:40, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Congratulations, Milowent. I'm glad we were able to collaborate on our recent Signpost article. It's a testament to your contribution that it is has been so well received, viewed by so many people, and picked up by significant media outlets. I hope that we can work together again in the future. Thanks! West.andrew.g (talk) 07:00, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks! I've enjoyed it as well, I hope we have future opportunities to collaborate as well. I am drowning in barnstars! :-) --Milowent • 13:38, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

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		For your fantastic Signpost story on the most popular Misplaced Pages articles, which gathered a staggering 5877 views on the day it was published, please accept this token of my gratitude. Ed  08:35, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

More press for our article

Thanks!

I'm glad you don't feel I was stepping on your toes :) Serendious 14:21, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

The Strange Case of Loretta Scott Crew

See Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Loretta Scott Crew. yes, I am talking to myself, so I don't forget this interesting possible hoax incident.--Milowent • 22:34, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

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Top25

Some weird ones this week. What do you think?

• Seether: Suddenly gets 800,000+ hits in one day, then dies. Probably just a spam.
• amazon.com: Traffic to that page has doubled since the beginning of February. Possibly related to disputes with states over paying sales tax.
• Still Life at the Penguin Cafe: Out of nowhere, sudden spike between 20-22 Feb, then dies back. Unless the DYK was on that day, I can't think of what could have caused it.
• World War II: Strange; it hasn't spiked in popularity recently, yet I don't remember seeing it in the top 25 before.

Thoughts? Serendious 12:24, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

• OK, I have the new WP:TOP25 up now, feel free to add a summary paragraph if you'd like. On the above notes - I think Seether and Still Life at the Penguin Cafe are most likely non-human views. When something has a burst of human popularity, the views don't drop to almost nothing after a huge spike, there is going to be some noticeable tail. Like I had to see why Michael Jordan was in the Top 25, but the stats showed a steady rise in views before his 50th birthday, and then fall again; that make sense. A Google Doodle will usually cause a massive spike and drop, but that is always documented so you can confirm it happened. Amazon.com is a harder case, I kept it in the Top25 for this week -- Alexa lists Amazon at #9 worldwide, so its not impossible for it to have more views recently for some reason. World War II is a steadily popular article, it appeared once prior this year (Misplaced Pages:5000/Top25Report/January 27-February 2, 2013) - but whether it makes the top 25 seems to depend on whether its a heavy news week, when the threshold to reach the Top 25 is higher. One entry this week I found interesting was Argo (2012 film). It was the most viewed article on any movie nominated for the Best Picture Oscar, and it won. I wonder if we'd find any trends like that if we pulled stats for prior years' nominees.--Milowent • 05:44, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

related: Early Prediction of Movie Box Office Success based on Misplaced Pages Activity Big Data Tom B (talk) 13:45, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Please please tell me someone isn't spamming Sherlock Holmes :'-( I'm guessing that Ernst Litfass is a recurring spam, since I haven't seen him in your previous reports. ANd do you think it's time to remove G-force? Serendious 11:23, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

• Looks like Sherlock had one big view day, no Google Doodle to explain it, so that will be off. Litfass is recurring spam, it has bursts of huge views, even though the de.wikipedia version has very few views. And on G-Force, I'm perplexed as to why, but we've given it the benefit of the doubt for awhile, and I am comfortable removing from the list this time, which I'll work on this evening (pacific time US). If you have other thoughts or input, feel free to weigh in!--Milowent • 21:26, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
• Am copying this discussion to Misplaced Pages talk:5000/Top25Report, let's try to centralize discussion there to encourage participation. Thanks.!--Milowent • 15:34, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

If you're busy this week I'd be happy to do the report for you, but I need to know the process you use. Serendious 16:47, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

It's funny; I kinda thought you would remove my snarky comments yourself :) I only really put them in for the hell of it; I din't think they would last. Serendious 07:59, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

• Well, we'll see, I guess. I like a little snark myself. I kind of like letting the chart evolve organically and see what happens. The stats are the stats, but how we analyze them is up to us.--Milowent • 13:11, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

LOTS of weird ones this week. Will need a second opinion. Serendious 08:50, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

• looking really quick: would remove Aho–Corasick string matching algorithm (makes no sense), G-Force (as usual), Cat anatomy (is someone screwing with us? I think it possible), Limonana (one day spike), New Brunswick (nothing justifies his spike if you look at news), Hollow Body Guitar (this is a spam issue, spotted on WP:TOPRED before). San Marino seems legit, they played england in football. Nowruz also legit.--Milowent • 18:22, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

thanks for top 25 report

thanks very much, i use it to help target editing Tom B (talk) 13:37, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages talk:5000/Top25Report/January 13-19, 2013

Sorry about the confusion with this page — I had no clue that you were working on the project, and the history of moving several pages around meant that I had no clue who had originally created it. I'll not again obstruct things if I notice you tagging these pages for deletion. Nyttend (talk) 19:26, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks, no problem at all, I am always glad to see people thinking before deleting, considering my evil inclusionist history. :-) --Milowent • 19:54, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Narine Dovlatyan discussion

Hi Milowent, if you think that I will not dispute the results, you are wrong. I am confident in my position but you dont. You dont go to the debate, it means you are not sure that you are right.

As for the English, man with a worse English coaching English club. I think I can handle it somehow.--46.241.247.85 (talk) 17:06, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

• Oh well, I tried. Wait six months, the world won't end.--Milowent • 17:14, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

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• I didn't author Jenna Rose, though I participated in prior AfD discussions. Thanks for the notice, I appreciate it, I'll probably weigh in at some point. I noted when it was recreated that it was a "huge rewrite" so the older AfD content wasn't as relevant, I don't know why certain articles get such undue attention.--Milowent • 10:52, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

• I know. I sent notifications to a lot of the people who made major contributions or were involved in the previous AfD debates. Rogerthat94 (talk) 12:02, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

The Grio

Hi. Are you planning on adding those sources you mentioned in the deletion discussion to the article? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 15:24, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

• No, I was expecting you would want to first. You helpfully identified the article as potentially needing improvement.--Milowent • 18:04, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

I figure that those who advocate retention of a nominated article would be motivated (and perhaps feel some sense of obligation) to do so; since you were willing to add to a page, I figured the page in question could be the actual article, instead of an AfD discussion page. Cutting out the middle man, so to speak. I don't think obligating those who find all those articles and nominate to do this with all such articles is particularly fair or egalitarian. I've certainly do so with my share of articles, but acting as if I have to do all of them isn't very reasonable. Are you willing to add them? Nightscream (talk) 21:12, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

For the purpose of keeping of an article, the policy only states that sources must be available, not that they actually be in the article. WP:BEFORE is satisfied by merely identifying the sources. They only actually need to be added into the article if they are serving as WP:V for particular statements. Gaijin42 (talk) 21:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

I have a proposal: let's all play nice and do a little bit. It's in keeping with the cooperative spirit of the joint, and with the general idea of WP:ASSHOLISMISATWOWAYSTREET (I like to think of myself as an equal-opportunity offender). The first editor to improve the article gets a nice Belgian beer, the last one gets a Keystone. Drmies (talk) 02:46, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• Alright, alright, I'll do something to it. Above I was responding to what I interpreted as Nightscream's passive-aggressive suggestion with my own passive-aggressive response.--Milowent • 15:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
• :) Milowent, I like you. That we often disagree is entirely your fault. Drmies (talk) 16:32, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't being passive-aggressive, I merely asked a question, and politely suggested that those who advocate retention of an article should be willing to add the barest of secondary sources that go to its notability, since it seems only fair. That's not passive-aggressive, that's just reasonable and fair. Thanks for your decision, Milowent. It is much appreciated. Nightscream (talk) 04:44, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

NPA

You should seriously consider redacting your inappropriate personal attack at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/KOXY. Thank you. - MrX 13:44, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• MrX--I happen to be something of an expert on personal attacks, having made many of them myself (some of them directed at our dear Milowent here). If you seriously find those comments about panties in a twist etc. objectionable, then you may not last very long here. To put it another way, there is no personal attack. Your time would be better spent investigating Milowent's charge, which seems to have some meat on it (though no chili that I can see). Drmies (talk) 14:05, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Your opinion and self-claimed expertise are duly noted, but kindly avoid lecturing me on my longevity with the project.

  I don't have a personal reaction to the comments, but they are over the line, especially for a civil discussion. They discourage open discussion and scare off editors who don't want to deal with the incivility. They also derail the discussion. I am asking nicely that Milowent please stop, and that they consider redacting the comments. - MrX 14:22, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

  There is nothing at all wrong with those; being a bit brusque when one feels the need is not uncivil, nor does it call for redacting. "Panties in a twist" is ironically applicable to what you're doing right now. Tarc (talk) 17:57, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

ARS asleep at the wheel

At the risk of being WP:BEANSy, there's no article on Adria Richards yet? Isn't this sort of thing...an "event" that allegedly crosses the bright line into "significant coverage"...ARS' raison d'être? :) Tarc (talk) 18:00, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm a bit surprised too, I expected to see one earlier this week. Oddly enough, Alison preemptively salted the title without comment earlier today... IAR, I suppose. In any case, a truly determined inclusionist could get around that with something like Adria Richards controversy. I'm surprised we haven't seen an article about the 9-year-old with the video game Kickstarter, as well. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:23, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

The 9 year old could be listed in Kickstarter as a scammer, since her wealthy mother could've easily given her the money for camp, and obviously made a professional video for her pretending to be her, to get some attention. Dream Focus 20:30, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• Adria Richards, I had to google her. The story hasn't crossed into the Gawkersphere yet (and may not, I bet). Interesting case; to make her point for her, if she had sexy slideshows of herself online in connection with her firing, she'd be super notable. Hadn't head of the Kickstarter scam either!--Milowent • 20:49, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

• Regarding Alison's protection, the line reads " (indefinite) ‎({{pp-create}})", meaning only an autoconfirmed user can create the article. I assume that she wanted to, quite rightly, prevent anonymous swill from creating an attack page right off the bat. Tarc (talk) 23:08, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Oh, good point, I saw the create protection and just assumed it was admin-only. So I guess someone probably will create it eventually, since she did for Python what Sandra Fluke did for Planned Parenthood. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:00, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
• Hey, how did I land in the media blip = WP notability section? And where's the article about the guy that got his stupid ass fired, and what were the jokes? I demand transparency. Drmies (talk) 00:32, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
  • I think the joke was something to do with "big dongles" and desiring to "fork a repo". I have to get back to work though, Adria Richards on Twitter isn't going to create itself! Mark Arsten (talk) 02:12, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
    • Ha, I almost put that Twitter article suggestion in here. This weekend, when I was out of town, I borrowed someone else's baby a couple of times (to get my fix of baby holding); she referred to the boy's little wee-wee as "dongle". I'd place a note here about my new son and his little protuberance, but Milowent, in his old age, is getting more easily shocked each day. Good luck with your article creation, Drmies (talk) 02:23, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
• Thanks for considering my delicate constitution, doctor. Remember it when i !vote keep on Adria's AfD, please.--Milowent • 03:46, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hi! Just compiled the raw list for this week, and came up with two new one-day spikes: "Devil" and "Admiral of France". No Google Doodles to explain them, so do you think you could try your new tactics on them? Also we should try to figure out what is going on with "New Brunswick"? Serendious 09:03, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

• Admiral of France (exclude): Nature of spike: severe (3-28 views: 13, 3-29: 467,778, 3-30: 27); Number of edits to page during subject week: 1 (registered user, formatting edit); Tweets (none of link; two mentions of "admiral of france" on March 30)
• Devil: similar to admiral of france, I would also remove it.
• New Brunswich: Cause is not clear, but it appears spike abruptly ended a few days ago.

--Milowent • 11:22, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Accusing people of acting like 2nd graders

I've been found out. I've never said a kind word ever to anyone. User_talk:Maximusveritas#Steven_Crowder.--Milowent • 20:45, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

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Hi! I think our project may have uncovered a previously unknown phenomenon: April fools wiki searches

Richard Hammond: A British car show presenter. Unezplained spike on April 1-2

Dumpster: Unexplained spike on April 1

Durian: Unexplained spike on April 1

Ycuá Bolaños supermarket fire: I can't necessarily chalk up this to an April fool, since it occurred on March 31

airport terminal: unexplained spike on April 1

waffle: Unexplained spike on April 1-2

MOS Technology 6502: Again, may not be due to an April fool, as the main spike occurred on March 31 (but then, we're talking Greenwich Mean Time)

Now the question is, are these April Fools a random collection of pranks, or are they coordinated by a single site or organisation? Serendious 14:00, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

• Whoa - i think they may all be legit!
• "Durian", "dumpster", "waffle", and "aiport terminal" all got popular from the Google nose prank -- see various articles which list terms as part of the prank: .
• Ycuá Bolaños supermarket fire is also legit - reddit effect, see ] and
• Richard Hammond could also be a reddit thing - he is clearly a favorite on reddit.. And see also .
• MOS Technology 6502: Another reddit thing..

--Milowent • 13:42, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

You're going to have to do it this week I'm afraid; too many things on the burner. I've put what I've done on the draft, but a lot of the removed pranks are going to have to be reinstated. Serendious 01:01, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

OK; I did it. But we need to work on how to get this page recognised. Right now it's a crapload of work for no recognition, and I need more people working on it. Serendious 02:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

• I agree, we need more attention to it! I meant to do it this week after your notice, but got hit by a virus this week!--Milowent • 00:32, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

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Calvinism: Seems legit; probably due to Reddit, as there are no newsworthy events related to it this week

Solway Firth Spaceman: Again, looks like a Reddit spike

Chikako Watanabe: His latest album was released internationally last month, so that's quite a delay

Hoshi Ryokan: Lost the title of world's oldest hotel in 2011; probably another Reddit.

Serendious 19:02, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

• Viewcounts of Watanbe don't look like a random spike, but i can't find an explanation either. Do you want me to take at stab at this weeks' report?--Milowent • 17:43, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

It would be nice if we could collaborate on it. Serendious 02:26, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

i'm working pn a very unreliable internet connection at the moment, so perhaps you could do it this weekSerendious 15:55, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Odd ones this week:

Mark Linn-Baker: if you can find a decent reason for Larry from Perfect Strangers ending up the top search this week, I'll give you a cookie.

History of chocolate: An odd one, but I think it may be legit

Chikako Watanabe: either someone is spamming him or he is suddenly really popular for no reason.

Dirk Schulze-Makuch: A guy who thinks we've already found aliens. No real reason I can find for the spike in views

Transformation matrix: Feels suspiciously like yet another bit of math/tech jargon spam. Why do these happen?

Serendious 20:01, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

• I have completely slacked on this, perhaps I can do just a very basic version for the week missed. Not finding any good reasons for these spikes.--Milowent • 12:36, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Updated. I had to leave some fields blank because I don't have the info for last week, so if you're intending to do a quick take on last week, that would be helpful. Thanks. Serendious 21:58, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

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LOL

"Revert the Unintentional He-Man Women Hater's Club President. i wrote this article and though i don't own it, i cannot suffer to see this atrocity continue." High five. :) Avt tor (talk) 17:52, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

• hehe. I am upset about the whole thing, but you gotta laugh sometimes. Meanwhile, take a look at this:. I am speechless.--Milowent • 17:54, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
  • Okay, that is scary. Avt tor (talk) 17:59, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Final warning: Category:American men novelists

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Stop the baseless accusations

So far on the talk about Caegory:American women novelists you have made comparisons to both nazis and slavery, both of which are entirely uncalled for. You have also falsely accused me of advocating that "female presidents" should be called "presidentesses". I never advocated any such thing. Please stop trying to accuse people of racism or mass murder because they try to implement the categorization schemes.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:39, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

• You should also refrain from calling people "Women-haters" and from comparing categorization to slavery or the mass killing of Jews, Gypsies, educated Poles and the many other groups killed in the Holocaust. Such comparisons are disturbing and uncalled for.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:09, 27 April 2013 (UTC)