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== The cool youngmace ==

Please dont delete

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September 2014

Information icon Hi Ahecht. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for Mark Jeffrey Miller, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. A# CSD criteria do not apply to redirects, which have their own criteria or go through WP:RfD. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers, criteria for speedy deletion, and particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion or proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. Thanks! Ks0stm 15:50, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

(Sorry for the template; that was much more template-ish than I was expecting.) Ks0stm 15:52, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Page language edits and new user name

Hi I need help correcting language on the Turtle Conservancy page and changing my user name.

Thanks,

Turtle Conservancy (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

@Turtle Conservancy: You can either change your username at Misplaced Pages:Changing username/Simple or simply create a new username and stop using Turtle Conservancy. However, note that just because you have changed your username doesn't mean that you don't have to follow Misplaced Pages's Conflict of Interest policy. A good guide to dealing with a conflict of interest can be found at Misplaced Pages:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide, but the summary is that directly editing articles about your organization is strongly discouraged, and instead you should propose changes on the article's talk page, get editors to review them, discuss any issues, and let others make the changes. While directly editing Turtle Conservancy is discouraged, I would strongly encourage you to contribute to articles related to sea turtles, conservation, or other areas you are knowledgeable about as Misplaced Pages is always looking for subject-matter experts. Just make sure that your edits don't give the appearance of promoting your specific organization. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:01, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

The Journey Feature Film

Thanks for added the changes, however I do have permission for the copyrighted content as I'm the Social Media Producer for The Journey Feature Film. If you need any extra confirmation please let me know and I'll get it for you. Also the Island the film is set on is real.

Thanks

David Jackson — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrDrPink (talk • contribs) 18:51, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

@MrDrPink: It is not enough to have permission, as information that has been posted on another site is presumed to be under copyright unless it is explicitly stated otherwise. Specifically, see the policy at Misplaced Pages:Copy-paste. which states: "Even the employees or representatives of an organization may not copy and paste copyright-protected text from the organization's resources into Misplaced Pages."
However, more importantly, if you are the Social Media Producer for the film, I would HIGHLY suggest that you read Misplaced Pages's policy on editing with a conflict of interest, or at least the Misplaced Pages:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide. The summary is that directly editing articles about films you are associated with is strongly discouraged, and instead you should propose changes on the article's talk page, get editors to review them, discuss any issues, and let others make the changes. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:05, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
@Ahecht: Thanks I'll check the links out now. Sorry about that, this is the first time I've created a wikipage.
@MrDrPink: No problem. I encourage you to stay and help improve Misplaced Pages by editing articles where you don't have a conflict of interest. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:23, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

The Altruism Society (Don't Delete This Page)

The Altruism Society is a real organization and is listed with the Ohio Secretary of State as a Non-Profit Organization. The organizations website is www.altruismsociety.org . The many offices that this organization has throughout the United States and Internationally does many philanthropic and humanitarian initiatives for individuals, families and children world-wide. As a Non-profit organization, It is normal and legal for this organization to raise funding for its products, services, and many causes. Ahect has shown considerable bias, discrimination, and judgement on this organization by stating that it is not real and insinuating that there is something illegal about raising funds through a series of legal fundraising efforts. This organization touches many lives in positive ways and makes a difference in society through its many initiatives. The references such as the Holy Bible don't need any references however, they were provided because these bible verses inspired this organization to make a difference in the world. We have many people who represent us on twitter, facebook, pinterest, and several other social media outlets to raise awareness about hunger, shelters, clean water and a series of other initiatives. The bible does state that charity is of God, and that you should help those who are in need or destitute. God is referenced and mentioned on US Currency, and the government doesn't ask us to prove that God is real or exist. Ahect your remarks were very biased, judgmental, disrespectful, and unprofessional. Why would you want to have a legit organization deleted and silenced that strives to make the world a better place to live in. Please don't misquote the bible they way you did in your response to this article. Just because you have a problem with this article, gives you no reason to mislead others with your biased and negative statements. Please know what you are talking about before you slander this article and organization as if their out to defraud people or the public. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your comments were unwarranted and very immature and ignorant. Giacomo Farmer 19:36, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Check the legality of this organization at:

Ohio Secretary of State: http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:2:0::NO:RP::

USPTO: http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4808:lwmqo9.2.1

Website: www.altruismsociety.org

Dun & Bradstreet: www.dnb.com

Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jvv6p6dCh4 

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qd46pbSUzU

Manta: http://www.manta.com/search?search_source=nav&pt=41.4379%2C-81.5366&search_location=Cleveland+OH&search=The+Altruism+Society

Facebook: www.facebook.com/TheAltruismSociety

Twitter: @SocietyAltruism

Myspace: https://myspace.com/altruismsociety

Tumblr: http://thealtruismsociety.tumblr.com/

Linkedin: http://linkedin.com/company/the-altruism-society — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giacomofarmer (talk • contribs) 19:36, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

@Giacomofarmer: I don't appreciate you misrepresenting what I said. The doubts about the organization's existence and fundraising efforts expressed at Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/The_Altruism_Society were posted by other users, not by me. I never expressed doubts that the Altruism society was real, only that it is not notable (a term that has a specific meaning on Misplaced Pages). An organization can be real, legal, important, and do great work, and still not be notable per the standards laid out at WP:ORG. I never insinuated anything about the legality of the organization, and I only commented on the references being to your website and to the bible as a shorthand to indicate that there were no sources in the article that specifically establish the notability of your organization (notability, as defined by Misplaced Pages, involves significant coverage of the organization in reliable sources that are independent of the organization itself). I have no bias against or ill judgement of your organization, but Misplaced Pages should not be used as a means of promotion or advertising, and my judgement was that at this point, there is not evidence that your organization is notable enough to merit a Misplaced Pages page (and my nomination will be reviewed by other editors and an administrator before any action is taken). In addition, Misplaced Pages has a strong conflict of interest policy, and creating and editing articles about organizations you are associated with is strongly discouraged. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:56, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

@Ahect, you are still being biased by assuming that I have an affiliation with this organization. I have seen the works of this organization hands-on within the community, and decided to write an article about them because of all the good things that they do. Regardless of how you feel and what you said, the comments that were made were biased, judgmental, and unfair. I have no affiliation with this organization and organizations such as this are/and should be notable. To assume that this is an attempt to gain marketing and advertizing benefits is absurd because this organization already has enough of that. However, Misplaced Pages has a lot of articles that can be brought up in question but, this is not one of them. I don't appreciate your/other editors assumptions, and I wasn't even working on it 30 minutes before these biased judgments and ignorant comments were made. The page is not even done yet, what is wrong with the people at Misplaced Pages, if this is the professionalism of this organization than maybe I will take my article somewhere else. How dare you. Please don't insult the writers and jouranalist who contribute to this organization, that's not right. Giacomo Farmer 20:36, 10 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Giacomofarmer (talk • contribs)

Help me please

check-markThis help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can ask another question on your talk page, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.

Could you possibly review these articles Cabin (font) Lato (font) Irregularis? Are there any major differences between them and my suggested articles Eyadish or Sherbrooke?

Thank you so much for your highly appreciated cooperation.

Eyadnalsamman (talk) 20:41, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

@Eyadnalsamman: There's no major difference, other than that I was monitoring new pages and hadn't seen those old ones. Those fonts probably aren't notable either. There are a few minor differences, in that those are open fonts and correctly used the open font template, and those articles weren't obviously created by an author with a conflict of interest (i'm not saying that the author of those articles didn't have a conflict of interest, just that it wasn't obvious), but those don't affect notability. I'm on my phone now, but I'll take a closer look when I get back to a real computer. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 21:53, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I'm not at all confident that independent sources exist. But you're welcome to try and find them nevertheless:
I personally — as an inclusionist — suggested to keep these two articles, as I reworded them to be neutral. However this is at odds with Misplaced Pages not being a dumping ground for everything one can put neutrally. -- Your efforts to help the font gain scholarly and press coverage and to document user reception would be useful. --Gryllida (talk) 06:54, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Reference Errors on 19 September

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This is Steven Goldstein and you edited a page someone created about me

Hi - I'm Steven Goldstein, associate professor of law and political science at Rutgers University in Newark and the founder of Garden State Equality. I'm being played by Steve Carell in the upcoming movie "Freeheld." I had noticed someone created a Misplaced Pages page about me that had wrong information. I took it down and instead put up correct information about me - not overboard, believe me, as I know Misplaced Pages is not for hagiographic press releases - but simply correct information.

In fact, the information I took down, that you or someone else seems to have put back up, overpraises me. It says I'm credited with making New Jersey the first state to have gay unions. No one has ever credited me with that, thank goodness, because New Jersey was not the first state to have same-sex unions of any kind - far from it.

If we can put the correct information back up, I'd be grateful. I list it below - what I had posted. I can source it entirely. If you wish to reach me, I'm at stevengoldstein.email@gmail.com , www.facebook.com/stevengoldstein and mobile (917) 449-8918

Thanks so much, Steven

Steven Goldstein (b. 1962) is a civil rights leader and the founder of New Jersey's statewide organization for LGBT equality, Garden State Equality. He is to be played by Steve Carell in the upcoming film, Freeheld, which chronicles Garden State Equality's grassroots battle, led by Goldstein, to allow dying police officer Lt. Laurel Hester to leave her death benefits to her partner Stacie Andree. The Freeholders, county officials for whom Lt. Hester worked and whose safety she helped to protect, had denied her the right to pass along her benefits as they would have done if she were married to a man. Their resistance came before New Jersey won marriage equality, which, had it been law during the 2005-2006 battle for Lt. Hester, would have left them no choice but to treat Hester and Andree equally. In January 2006, the Freeholders relented, voting to allow Lt. Hester to pass along her death benefits to Andree. Lt. Hester died the next month.

Goldstein led Garden State Equality as Chair and Executive Director from the time he founded the organization in 2004 until 2013. Today he is an associate professor at Rutgers University in Newark, where he holds a joint appointment at the Law School and in the Department of Political Science. He teaches legislative advocacy, civil rights and social justice, and other courses in public law and American politics. He is also Deputy Vice Chair of the New Jersey Democratic State Committee.

In September 2002, Goldstein and Daniel Gross, a couple since 1992, became the first same-sex couple ever to be included in the wedding announcements of The New York Times, marking their wedding in Montreal and civil union in Vermont the next day. In February 2007, they became the first same-sex couple to enter a civil union in New Jersey. In October 2013, Goldstein was the religious officiant at the first same-sex marriage in New Jersey. Goldstein had attended rabbinical school in mid-career, then took leave to lead Garden State Equality and its campaign for marriage equality.

From the time Goldstein founded Garden State Equality, the organization has won campaigns to make New Jersey one of two U.S. states — the other's being California — with a collection of statewide laws that include marriage equality, transgender equality, an anti-school bullying law, paid family leave for same-sex couples and a ban on so-called "reparative therapy" targeting LGBT youth.

Before Garden State Equality, Goldstein was communications director for the late U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), and a counsel for the U.S. House Judiciary Committee, working for then-Congressman, now U.S. Senator, Chuck Schumer (D-NY). Goldstein also won 10 regional Emmy Awards as a television producer.

A native of New York City, Goldstein is a graduate of Brandeis University, Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government, Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism, and Columbia Law School. Goldstein and Gross are longtime residents of Teaneck, New Jersey.

StevenGoldsteinNJ (talk) 21:29, 24 September 2014 (UTC)Steven

@StevenGoldsteinNJ:, thanks for contacting me, and thanks for following the Conflict of Interest guidelines and not trying to edit the article directly. I have not been involved with editing that article, I just flagged it as not having sources (which another editor already fixed). You might have better luck posting your change request on the article's talk page at Talk:Steven Goldstein (activist). I'll take a look at the article in a few days if I have time, but note that it is unlikely that any information would be added without a citation to a reliable sources that is independent of the subject. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 23:33, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

info from "Badger skins"

I happened to see your edit summary comment wondering how I got info from a deleted article. It was a sheer accident of coincidence that I happened to do a printout of the article just before it was deleted. I liked it when I first read it, so I "kept a copy". I often do a printout of something online I enjoy reading or want to study without the distraction of blurred vision from computer screen glare. The article Tahash lacked the relevant info re ancient color interpretation that was in the deleted Badger skins article, so I was able to copy and merge the most useful and relevant parts from it into Tahash so they wouldn't be lost. Just wanted to satisfy your curiousity about "how" I got the information from a deleted article. (I'm sure glad I still have a copy.) --Espresso-con-pana (talk) 23:36, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Your edits have been deleted by Drmies

I'm here following through on "{Help me} request—Something's seriously wrong".
I had just found out that Drmies has reverted all your edits to Tahash, and my edit before yours:

message "Drmies has reverted your edit to Tahash".

I immediately accessed the article, auto redirected to Tabernacle, and accessed the "Redirected from Tachash" link back to that article, then accessed the Tachash view history page. Are you aware of these? , , . Drmies apparently believes I am another sockpuppet. It's incredible that he has included you too. The entire content of the article was deleted shortly after you made edits to it. Nothing you posted seems to indicate that you yourself found anything wrong with the content.

Before the delete and reversion occurred I had already generated hard-copy printouts of "Badger skins" 9/24/2014, last modified on 24 September 2014 at 12:36, 18 pages, with its Talk page last modified 26 September 2014 at 15:15, 6 pages, and "Tahash" 9/27/2014, last modified on 27 September 2014 at 04:58, 7 pages, with its Talk page last modified 26 September 2014 at 19:28 8 pages. I refer to these.

There is something more seriously wrong here than the simple merging of two articles, when the texts of two articles have been wholly deleted ("Burned!"). I don't believe it was an OR issue, since the contents of the most recently edited versions appear to have been previously pruned of all perceived OR, and the remaining text was apparently accepted as adequately sourced, and Debresser edited a minor shortening of only a small portion of the article without recommending deletion of the whole text.
Drmies could have arranged to have me, along with all the sockpuppets of the original Tachash/Tahash article, blocked from editing the most recent version of the Tahash article, and could have made the article corrected and edited by Administrators only and it would still have been available without further interference to readers seeking reliable information. Instead, Misplaced Pages:Creation protection was applied to totally remove the content. That alone caused me to wonder just exactly what was there in the content of either or both articles "Badger skins" and "Tahash" that Drmies passionately wants to exclude. "Burn it!" is passionate language, and in my own terrified past experience it's hate language.
I don't know what your response will be. My own chosen course of response is outlined in my brief response to FWIW's comments on my Talk page here. I don't intend to submit a protest to the Administators. Don't ask me to go through that. I just wanted you to know that your own edits had been reverted right after you edited the article. Thanks. --Espresso-con-pana (talk) 05:10, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

About Liberia

Someone copied that article to the main page, so I see why you did that. I have been writing it today with new stuff and did not realize they were copying it to the main page. That page is quite large already so I am trying offload some of the finer details to this county page. Thanks. Starstr (talk) 15:16, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Harem pants

Hmm. As soon as you warned a certain someone they would be blocked, a new account was created and as soon as created, proceeded to make the exact same edit to Harem pants that the other account had been warned about. Too soon for a sockpuppet investigation? Mabalu (talk) 09:11, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

TISFAT Zero

Would you be able to explain to me exactly what the problem is with this page? I'd be glad to fix whatever issue there might be with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evar678 (talk • contribs) 19:33, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

@Evar678: On Misplaced Pages, the word "notability" has a specific meaning, and refers to subjects that have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. A subject can be "important" without being "notable". In the case of this software, which was just released two weeks ago, it appears to be too soon for a Misplaced Pages article. Without significant coverage from reliable sources, WP:No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:36, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
@Ahecht: While it's true that the software was officially released two weeks ago, it has been available to users throughout all phases of development for over a year. In my opinion, it wouldn't fall under being too soon. --Evar678

Speedy deletion declined: TISFAT Zero

Hello Ahecht. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of TISFAT Zero, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to software. Thank you. — Malik Shabazz /Stalk 19:45, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

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Zoos

Hi, good to meet you. I see you've reverted or removed quite a few number of the {{Zoos}} templates, (EDIT: Nope, I was wrong, my apology, you were working in categories) and I don't understand why. You said on one that the template covering the zoos in the country already cover the topics in the zoo template, but if you look at the template (it is used on all of the zoos of Europe, or most) it is a full well put together template of zoo topics, whereas the other templates only list the names and links to the zoos. Two completely different animals (if I may make a pun). Before you remove more please have a look to see if you may be removing apples and leaving the oranges, or visa versa. I don't know how many you've removed, but please go back and see if a mistake has been made. Maybe I'm the one missing something (EDIT: My powers of observation obviously) but can't think what it could be. Thanks. Randy Kryn 19:27 7 October, 2014 (UTC)

Yup, my bad, I was cleaning up the root of the zoos category and got a little overeager. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:09, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for telling me! I will remove my signature from it. I can sign on talk pages right?

P. S. Can I just put Scoooter on my articles? Scoooter3 (talk) 19:05, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

@Scoooter3: Yes, you definitely should sign messages left on Talk and User Talk pages. Articles, however, should not be signed in any way, because all Misplaced Pages content is edited collaboratively and isn't "owned" by a particular editor. Your contributions will be recorded on the page's "History" tab. If you wish to own or take sole credit for a page you should find a personal webhosting service, not Misplaced Pages. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

ok. Scoooter3 (talk) 19:08, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

RE: Misplaced Pages and copyright

Thanks, Ahecht. I will write my articles MYSELF. Scoooter3 (talk) 19:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

The cool youngmace

Please dont delete

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