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Claypool's instructions

Bink doesn't stay abreast with current news concerning Primus band(psychedelic viking music). His attitude lacks the ability to understand, at first sight. Blair3973 (talk) 00:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

There are two points of context you probably missed. The first one is that a new user told us that Claypool instructed his July 20 audience to come to Misplaced Pages and change the genre to something ridiculous. The second point you probably don't know about is the subsequent sockpuppet investigation I started which resulted in three longstanding Claypool-connected accounts being blocked as sockpuppets: Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Dollallama/Archive. Between them the accounts had many years of good contribution records but they blew it on the issue of "funk metal" genre, and now they are all blocked because of Claypool's meddling. Note that Misplaced Pages is mainly based on WP:SECONDARY sources, which means that Claypool cannot dictate the genre of his music. So if you want to keep contributing to Misplaced Pages, don't try to implement Claypool's July 20 instructions. Binksternet (talk) 01:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Proxy

You have made wrong reverts, I didn't even knew that I was using a proxy. 216.177.129.53 was removing all edits of User:GorgeCustersSabre, I just inserted them back. Because you have rollback, can you revert your reverts of my edits back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.207.185.62 (talk) 06:23, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't have rollback, but I will look into this matter. Binksternet (talk) 12:27, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Recess (song)

Beatport is a music player. Is genre tag reliable? 115.164.89.9 (talk) 16:25, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

They are not listed at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Albums/Sources. I think their genre categorization should not be considered reliable. Binksternet (talk) 17:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015

Hello, I'm Rystheguy. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Marilyn Manson without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; I restored the removed content. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. The content you removed was properly referenced. Ry's the Guy  05:05, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Shot grouping

On 13 August 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shot grouping, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a grouping of shots on a target has a mean point of impact? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Luke Bryan

You changed Luke Bryan back to Country music, but what about Florida Georgia Line? Their page says they are Bro-country. --98.183.184.171 (talk) 20:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

User:Ghazlan-airplanes

I see you've just posted a warning on this user's talk page. This SPI may interest you: AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:17, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Cover stub as advertizing?

Norland Wind

More importantly, this isn't PD stuff by our old friend "anon"; words Violet Jacob and the music Jim Reid - that's the meat of the subject, not the "background" ...and -the- canonical version of it is Cilla and Artie's. Anmccaff (talk) 07:43, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Appears to fail WP:NSONG so I nominated it for deletion. Binksternet (talk) 19:11, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Dunno if the song as a whole isn't notable, but this article looks like an ad. Someone had added |diff] a category to it, 2013 songs] which I removed; this appears to refer to songs first published or released in that year, not cover of older (...better..) work. There's another category for 2013 singles]"; does the same rule apply? Anmccaff (talk) 15:07, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, the singles category is correct. Maybe there's a category for traditional songs that have no traceable year. Binksternet (talk) 15:25, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Wow. I'm surprised this hasn't changed to Coverapedia. This looks like a great way to use Wiki as a free billboard. Anmccaff (talk) 15:36, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

The very tight window allowed by WP:SONGCOVER is supposed to squelch promotional mentions of cover versions. The consensus that established SONGCOVER is not prominent enough; many people just ignore it. Binksternet (talk) 15:42, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Banshees

1) If a contributor doesn't strictly wp:STICKTOSOURCE, it is wp:OR. 2) Putting a source in the infoxbox is not necessary 3) This user is a blatant clone of Lachlan Foley. Carliertwo (talk) 21:54, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

I withdraw the point 3. However, this didn't improve the article. Carliertwo (talk) 22:04, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

The two of you ought to work together to expand the text rather than acting like it is a zero-sum game. Binksternet (talk) 22:06, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

5 Seconds of Summer (album)

Can you keep an eye once again. 115.164.209.205 (talk) 23:17, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

On it. Thanks for your dedication and perseverance, my Malaysian friend. Binksternet (talk) 23:31, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

NOW 50 deluxe

There's a reason there's a link to the Now 50 Deluxe Edition, leave it as is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.229.32.26 (talk) 04:43, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't see your reason, and there's no source to support the track list. Out it goes. Binksternet (talk) 04:52, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Leave the deluxe edition track list alone. If you don't trust me then leave it alone! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.229.32.26 (talk) 18:19, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Please be respectful and explain why you decide to revert edits

Binksternet, I take objection to your edit note "Psychedelic Viking Music my ass." It is Misplaced Pages policy to treat editors with respect, something that you seem to feel like you're above. I posted on Funk Metal's talk page explaining the reasoning for my edits. The least you could do is explain why you performed your reversion like a civil human being. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BurritoSlayer (talk • contribs)

You might want to scroll up the page to Claypool's instructions where I inform another user that Claypool's meddling in Misplaced Pages has gotten people blocked. You're treading on thin ice trying to question sources such as the Australian magazine Hot Metal while you yourself are using as a source an audio recording of Claypool. Binksternet (talk) 19:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I noticed the controversy so I started doing some research. The question of Primus's musical genre has been hotly debated, and the most common characterization, by far, is that Primus is in its own musical genre. Many publications reference Primus as "funky" or "funk-influenced," but they are rarely characterized as simply "funk metal." I looked to see what sources the Funk Metal page had for including Primus, and each was flimsy. There were only two sources (which you simply re-added without checking) on the Funk Metal page that dealt with Primus: one was a broken AllMusic link, the other was a link to ram.org, the personal site of a computational biologist. I don't question the reliability of Hot Metal, I question using a second-hand version of that article from the personal site of a computational biologist.

As for the audio recording, first, in your own post on your talk page you acknowledge its authenticity. Indeed, it is even hosted on Wikimedia. Second, I did not add a category for "Psychedelic Viking Music." I simply added in the text of the article that Claypool himself considers it to be the thematic style of his band. Isn't an artist's opinion of his own music relevant to the "Musical style and influences" section of his band's page? BurritoSlayer (talk) 20:12, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

To continue, here's some articles that explain Primus's classification:

• Las Vegas Review Journal: "Genre-straddling"
• AV Club: "alt-rock culture as a funky, experimental antidote to the scourge of slackerdom"
• Daily Freeman: "alternative rock band"
• Times-Standard: "experimental-rock band"
• SoundSpike: "Experimental rock outfit"

There are plenty of other sources that show the same. 20:27, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

References

1. Bracelin, Jason. http://www.reviewjournal.com/entertainment/music/genre-straddling-primus-will-deliver-wackily-warped-whimsy. {{cite news}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
2. Semley, John. "Primus' Les Claypool".
3. Mitchell, Paula Ann. "Mountain Jam Music Festival kicks off Thursday". Daily Freeman.
4. Cochrane, Myles. "Festival Roundup: a guide to some forthcoming band-gatherings". Times Standard.
5. Hall, Tara. "Primus unleashes plans for first-ever 3-D tour".

If Claypool had said his music was some kind of valid genre, or even a plausible hybrid genre, then it would be interesting to relay this to the readers. But "psychedelic viking" is a joke genre, not supposed to be taken seriously. If we were fleshing out how Claypool is quirky and humorous, then that might fit in the paragraph. Binksternet (talk) 20:21, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Primus's music is so out-there that "Psychedelic Viking Music" could be a plausible characterization of it. Just because it doesn't fit within standard taxonomies of music doesn't mean it's not a valid designation.

You also didn't respond to my other comments on how the Funk Metal article was poorly sourced, and how you did nothing to improve its sourcing while hastily reverting my edits. Do you have any justification for keeping the thin sourcing as is? BurritoSlayer (talk) 20:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I was busy adding sources. There are so many that it overwhelms, which is why I was immediately put off by your removal of "funk metal" from Primus and Primus from funk metal. Such a removal would never be considered by a person who was familiar with the literature.

I don't have anything constructive to say about the plausibility of "psychedelic viking music" as a genre. It's ridiculous; intentionally so. Binksternet (talk) 23:48, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Chicago 18

Got your message earlier...I only added the production credits and information from my Chicago 18 CD. I didn't think I'd done anything wrong, just only added important info..I apologize if I'd cause any interference... Joshuadejohnson (talk) 00:09, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

I want to tell you that I reacted strongly because of all of the unreferenced production credits that have been added to music articles, the additions made by your Joshuadejohnson account and by IPs such as 108.239.234.87 from Merced and a whole bunch from Raleigh who are interested in the band Chicago and in Christian music by artists such as Amy Grant and Michael W. Smith, just like you are. I figured these IPs were you editing while logged out. That's why I placed a very strong warning on your page.

Regarding the credits you added, you must figure out how to add a reference, even something as simple as <ref>Credits as listed on the CD album booklet, 1994 Geffen catalog number GEFD-12345.</ref> All you need to do is to make sure that someone is able to go verify that the information has been published. Binksternet (talk) 01:59, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Joshuadejohnson, something that worries me are little edits such as this one where a name (or two) is added to a song credit. Can you tell me how somebody copying down the CD booklet credits would fail to include these names on the first go? If all the credits came straight from the CD booklet then it would be easy to get it right the first time. Binksternet (talk) 02:04, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Gilbert O'Sullivan

You said that you re-edited my changes on the Gilbert O'Sullivan page. Gilbert is IRISH, not british/english or anything else. Just ask the guy! He was born in Ireland and is IRISH. end of! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auric73 (talk • contribs) 12:50, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Andrewbf Again?

Hello again! I suspect the return of Andrewbf - now IP 187.213.37.100, location Mexico. Major changes to house music pages, etc, similar pattern as before.

(Etheldavis (talk) 00:44, 20 August 2015 (UTC))

Yes, it's him. Binksternet (talk) 00:47, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, as always, Binksternet. I feel kind of sorry for him because, somehow, I think he means well - he just doesn't grasp the importance of reliable sources, consensus, etc, but his continual disruption is very wearing all the same.

(Etheldavis (talk) 01:09, 20 August 2015 (UTC))

Yes, I'm sympathetic as well, but language for him is a barrier to comprehending how much of a fine line it is for this or that genre to be applied to a song, album or artist. Yet he is determined to put his views into the encyclopedia, which is why he was blocked in the first place. Now that he is continually evading a block, he's beyond help. He would have to stop contributing in any form for six months and then try the WP:Standard offer to see how that goes. Binksternet (talk) 01:14, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes. Well, we'll probably see him again sometime, but thank you again for acting so promptly - as always.

(Etheldavis (talk) 01:29, 20 August 2015 (UTC))

Millbrae edit-- CAFL guy

Hi Binksternet, I edited the Millbrae page without any reliable sources because the information actually came from prior knowledge and personal experience; I know many people that live in Millbrae and call it that, and I have even seen a short performance by some American kids about it, making a fictional bank called the Bank of Millbrasia, in with the name written in both English and Chinese. So, therefore, I cannot provide any reliable sources. (Sorry to disappoint you, but you'll just have to believe me that a large percentage of Millbrae calls it that.) Thanks!! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CAFL guy (talk • contribs) 08:22, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

(not Binksternet, but...) All the information in Misplaced Pages needs to be spurceable to reliable media (books, magazines, TV news, something).

Separately from that, As a lifelong SF Bay Area resident I don't think I have ever heard it called that. Sure it 's that common in town?...

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 08:29, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

George is right. All information on Misplaced Pages must be previously published in WP:Reliable sources. Even then, a very localized usage might not be appropriate because it gives WP:UNDUE weight to a minor or fringe viewpoint. These rules are strict policy. Binksternet (talk) 15:36, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Allenroyboy sock

Blocked him. Adding same text as added before. Doug Weller (talk) 17:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Sometimes this stuff is dead easy obvious. Binksternet (talk) 17:46, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Notable band?

Hi again, going through the usual uploads over at Commons and came across |this page. I don't know a lot about popular music, could you take a look? Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, the guy was trying to promote his non-notable band. I blanked his user page; we'll see what happens next. Binksternet (talk) 03:23, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Electronic music

The phonautograph did not use electricity. The phonograph did not (at first) use electricity. The telharmonium did not use electronics. The futurists, while they had knowledge of electric instruments like the telharmonium, had no idea about electronics. Luigi Russolo used acoustic instruments for his performances. The section is titled "origins" because it explores the factors that precede electronic music. Of course, the Denis d'or was a curio, but it is discussed in Electronic musical instrument, and most importantly one small imperfection is not a good reason to revert the entirety of someone's changes.

At first, I was surprised to see that the article was in such an unreadable, uninformative, and unfocused state. Now it makes more sense.

I was originally prepared to bring the article to featured quality, and make it understandable for people who haven't spent their entire lives in the industry like yourself. Unfortunately, I didn't forsee it would involve warring with people who prefer maintaining poor quality over imperfect improvement. So, in all honesty, you can have the article exactly the way you like it. I'm no longer interested. --Teggles (talk) 05:57, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm not going to try to repair your interest in the article but I wanted to say you are misrepresenting me. Binksternet (talk) 06:17, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Remember, the point of Misplaced Pages is to write quality, cited articles. That takes encouraged editors, and it takes incremental improvement. It's not helpful to revert great efforts for insignificant reasons. Don't be overly protective of a B-quality article. --Teggles (talk) 06:22, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

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I thought you should know...

National Report is not a reliable source, to put it mildly. - MrX 02:35, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Help me out a bit... Where did I advocate using that website? Wherever it was, I plead temporary insanity. Binksternet (talk) 02:46, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't realize that your comment was made several days ago: talk:Carly Fiorina#Original research regarding jobs at HP. You cited this. - MrX 03:12, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Heh heh... In hindsight that's a pretty funny article. I guess I was rushed to get my talk page post written, and didn't consider the source very carefully. I bet I would have been more careful if I had been composing article text. Binksternet (talk) 03:18, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

I might have made the same mistake were it not for the red dot next to the link, courtesy of WOT. - MrX 03:28, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for that vandalism edit

Sorry for that vandalism edit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 43.252.221.146 (talk) 11:53, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

From Japanese Spirits, I have only Japanese references for the pointed article. But I wrote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Japanese spirits (talk • contribs) 15:40, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Business career

I'd appreciate your comments at Talk:Carly Fiorina#Business career - Cwobeel (talk) 16:28, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Possible Andrewbf Return?

I could be wrong, but I'm slightly uneasy as IP address 201.102.135.232 has made an uncited change to the house music page which tallies with changes often made by Andrewbf - and the IP location is Mexico. Changes have also been made to other pages. My son reverted the change to the house music page and then alerted me.

(Etheldavis (talk) 21:22, 23 August 2015 (UTC))

Yes, that's Andrewbf, who uses IP addresses from around the city of Querétaro, Querétaro, and the Greater Mexico City metropolis. If the IP is from these places and is genre warring about electropop or house music, you can bet it's Andrewbf.

Per WP:NOSHARE, your son needs to register his own account. A single Misplaced Pages account cannot be used by multiple persons. Binksternet (talk) 23:28, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

My son has no Misplaced Pages account and does not edit using my account. My log-in details are known only to me. His reversion was made with no account. The second reversion was made by me with my account, after my son had alerted me to the situation.

(Etheldavis (talk) 23:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC))

Okay, sorry to have jumped to a wrong conclusion. Tell your son I said hello. Cheers! Binksternet (talk) 01:10, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm trying to get my son to become a Wikipedian, and he is interested in the work here, but he's at a difficult age and if I ask him to do something, he tends to do the opposite. Teenagers! Needless to say, I love him dearly! :)

(Etheldavis (talk) 01:50, 24 August 2015 (UTC))

Vandalism?

Hi, I just received a message from you saying that I vandalized the page for Gob's Apt. 13 when I just corrected a misleading bit of misinformation on the page. I even had a source which I put up. I also got a message for "continued vandalism" but I don't understand how any of the edits I've made have been vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.54.106.205 (talk) 00:00, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

You are contributing from Toronto, and you are editing articles related to the band Gob. Less than 100 km from Toronto is Cambridge, Ontario, where there is a person who has been called the 'box office bomb' vandal. This vandal is interested in the band Gob, as well as films that performed poorly. See Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive892#Box-office bomb guy, block evasion from Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. Your geographical proximity and interest in Gob made me suspicious. Binksternet (talk) 01:22, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Oh, ok. I forgot to sign in to my account when I made those edits. I just want to clear up that I was only trying to fix some misinformation on the Gob pages and edit some of the sentences that I felt weren't structured very well. I am not interested in poor films or anything like that. (User:SickofTalk)

Angel Witch

Really? You're going to try and block me over something that trivial even though I clearly have a source, which is the record's label? Must be your time of the month or something. Sickening how abusive of power mods can be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8b83:4860:58d:190c:d4f2:3950 (talk • contribs)

References

1. http://www.discogs.com/Angel-Witch-Angel-Witch/master/91981

Discogs is not reliable because it can be edited by anybody. See Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Albums/Sources under "Sources to avoid". As far as blocking you goes, quite a lot of genre warring has been coming out of Raleigh, North Carolina, from IP addresses such as yours. You would be in the best position to know whether you have been disruptive. Binksternet (talk) 05:29, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

User sub-pages

Hi Binks – long time, no see. Listen, I have something to ask you. Another editor, IllaZilla, has just nominated my user sub-pages for deletion. You would have seen them before, right? Are they really the sort of things that aren't allowed here, regardless of their purpose? 4TheWynne 07:36, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

I had never seen those pages before today. Looks to me like a blatant violation of WP:NOTWEBHOST. I have nominated stuff like this for deletion many times. You can copy the contents to your computer if you want to save the work. But Misplaced Pages is not here for that purpose. Binksternet (talk) 13:58, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Heavy metal music

Hi Binksternet, I am not new to Misplaced Pages, I've been editing since 2006. We have chatted briefly before on some pro sound articles. Of all the articles I have edited, I have never run into an article like Heavy metal music. Yes, I have had heated debates with other editors over what counts as a reliable source and debates over NPOV and due/undue weight issues (Gratuity and Goth subculture are two articles where there was a lot of debate). But in the end, when the dust settled, we worked out a compromise wording, where some of the content I was proposing was included, with substantial modifications requested by the other editors. But with Heavy metal music, there is no compromising and making concessions over wording or choice of references until a consensus is reached. It is just "No edits are permitted." In another article, the discussion on "guitar solos are an important part of heavy metal" would have had another editor supplying references that show that guitar soloing is not used in some metal subgenres. So then we could work out a compromise wording like "Guitar solos were an important part of heavy metal in the 1970s and 1980s, but since that time, some subgenres have placed less emphasis on the guitar solo or omitted it entirely."OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 01:54, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

The "no edits are permitted" attitude is from just one person. I foresee that this one person will not be able to prevent expansion to the article if several other editors agree on what the expansion should be. I am considering composing a paragraph about guitar solos and inserting it. If you think my work is worthy, then tweak it as necessary and help us keep it in the article. Binksternet (talk) 02:04, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I really like your idea of proposing a paragraph, and based on my reading of the sources and the fact that other elements (e.g., the power chord) are given their own section, such a paragraph would be warranted. However, given the climate in the article, I fear that an entire paragraph will not be supported, and it may have charges of WP:SYN, undue weight and NPOV leveled against it. I think an incremental approach–the proposal of a single sentence–might have a better chance of getting consensus support. Then once this sentence is safely included (e.g., "The guitar solo has an important role in heavy metal."), then additional proposals can be made to add details to this sentence (e.g., guitar solos commonly use significant virtuosity, the guitar solo has less emphasis in some subgenres or is omitted entirely). Just some ideas. OnBeyondZebrax • TALK 13:33, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm not considering a proposal, I'm considering an edit to the article. A proposal under the conditions we have on the talk page will become an endless pit of debate and blockade. Action is needed.

I take your composition advice to heart. Binksternet (talk) 22:39, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Political persecution?

Hi Binksternet, I am not new also to Misplaced Pages and have helped as I can. I am not a "professional" Misplaced Pages Editor nor have any interest in being one but, as shown in several sources which you know about, ,,, and others, Misplaced Pages has become so bureaucratic and practically ruled by a cabal of "professional" Editors who have a markedly liberal political viewpoint on most issues (this is all sourced before, not my viewpoint) it stands as an interesting point that you, a very experienced Editor with, what I presume, is an avowed interest in helping Misplaced Pages, have had several encounters with this me on the Planned Parenthood Talk Page. I am not sockpuppeting since I have never registered a username before (I will gladly pay 100 BTC to anybody that con prove otherwise) and do not use proxies nor any other masking form of posting here. I would like to point out here, for others to possible chime in and see, that you have been "following" me throughout my edits here on Misplaced Pages, like a police officer or a paladin of justice of some sort. You went to my edits to the Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation but couldn't find anything to challenge there and then moved on onto the Humberto Fontova's Talk Page, an article which according to your User page history you have never even edited in your career. Please let's include an unrelated Editor into this if you believe I am "trolling" and not contributing. In all honesty I am just trying to add a bit to improve dialogue here and you go ahead, using your long history as en Editor, and brazenly delete my Talk Page comments where other editors cannot see it. Why don't you do that on the highly monitored Planned Parenthood Talk Page? Why didn't you warn of blocking several editors who have broken these "rules" you amply talk about there? I didn't see you offering to block editor JBL when he graciously posted to me in said Talk Page "Go fuck yourself", or did you?

Please, if you wish to respond, don't ignore my questions and do properly answer all of them. I have noticed you have a pattern of obviating hard to answer questions.

PS. Please do take note of the vast amount of criticism and just complaints you have had in your User Page and you have promptly deleted. I understand it's within your right, but it goes to show that you seem to have a history as a controversial Editor. Hope you don't delete this too. 186.120.130.16 (talk) 21:45, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

On my talk page I keep honest criticism and delete trolling.

I saw your behavior was disruptive at Talk:Planned Parenthood, so I followed your edits to see if I could mitigate the disruption. No apology for that.

If you have a problem with an editor take your concerns to WP:ANI rather than posting them on an article's talk page. See WP:TPG for more advice, though you've been pointed there before today. Binksternet (talk) 21:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

By the way, I have no idea what you are talking about with regard to Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation. Never been there. Binksternet (talk) 21:57, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Care to mention that it was you who "directed" me there" If you fail to disclose that it makes me seem as having had issues with other Editors. You have also failed to disclose why have you deleted the stern warnings received on your User page for your past behaviour, since they were neither "criticism" nor "trolling". Interesting to not that your comment when deleting those is just "Got it" or similar variations. Also play pray tell how did you "follow my edits"? What was the process? What is akin to stalking? No accusations are being done here, I am just genuinely curious to see how you came upon those edits. Also, you fail to address my past questions, most of them, even when I particularly asked of you to answer them. Any chance of me getting some reprise here? Thanks for your time. 186.120.130.16 (talk) 22:08, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

I did not direct you to the article Mission: Impossible – Rogue Nation, nor did I direct you to edit any other article. I can't even figure out who did direct you to edit that article. It looks like you are making it up.

What I do with my user talk page is none of your business.

Wiki software allows anyone to check out the past history of all articles, talk pages, user pages etc. Every edit of a registered account is listed unless it's been hidden or deleted by administrators. I am not going to help you figure out how to do this as I don't think you will be less disruptive with more information. Binksternet (talk) 22:25, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

It seems you did not ready my comment so let me rephrase it: you have spouted thinly-veiled vitriol at me due to me opening up the large amount of criticism you have received in this very same User page that you have deleted. You are free to do so, right? But then you post here that I have been directed to WP:TPG already but failed to mention it was you. This is suspicious that you fail to disclose it. 186.120.130.16 (talk) 22:32, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Ah, so it's WP:TPG and not Mission Impossible. Fine.

Nothing you say here will make my talk page deletions be any of your business. Binksternet (talk) 22:37, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for admitting you were wrong. I sincerely mean it since I have read all the past criticisms that have been posted here and I understand that this is as far as you would go. No offense intended. 186.120.130.16 (talk) 22:45, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015

Please be particularly aware that Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 21:59, 30 August 2015 (UTC)