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May 3

items keep getting erased from a page on deana martin

I have been helping Deana Martin update her wiki page, because the links we put in from songs she has recorded to descriptions of those songs keep getting deleted. Also, the photo of the book cover she had uploaded (book is about her father) was deleted. After they were deleted the first time I went in and put connections to articles that showed she had recorded those song, but after a couple weeks those links disappeared again. Someone named Walter Gorilitz is the person deleting the links between songs. We don't know who he is or why he is deleting the links. Can you help me understand what is going on please

https://en.wikipedia.org/Deana_Martin

Vhackett (talk) 01:06, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

• Please use links instead of URLs here (Deana Martin): it makes life easier.
• Please note that since you are assoiciated with the subject, you have a conflict of interest. This is not a value judgement, its just a fact. Therefore please read our policy at WP:COI. (In a nutshell, don't edit the article directly, make suggestions on its talk page instead.) If you are being compensated in any way for your editing, you must make a declaration of this in order to comply with our terms of service: see WP:PAID.
• Please discuss these edits with the other editor by opening a new section on the article's talk page. Please assume good faith (WP:AGF). A polite discussion that assumes that the other editor is trying to improve the article usually works fairly well. In your case in particular, since you have a COI, you will be depending on other interested editors. If the discussion does not reach an agreement, come back here and we can tell you what to do next. -Arch dude (talk) 01:28, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@Vhackett: you've already asked this on your talk page. Please read Walter's comment there and please do not ask the same question in multiple places. Dairy {talk} 04:36, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Correction. The question was asked here and moved to the user's talk page. I did answer there. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:55, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Actually, I think it was asked on an IP's talk page first. Dairy {talk}

Part of article on Eric Alterman

As of 5/2/2018, the article has the following:"(A potentially libelous section about Alterman containing references to deliberate falsehoods made with reckless disregard for the truth has been removed.)".. ..I wonder if this is appropriate. Thanks.144.35.45.75 (talk) 05:42, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

No, such comments belong on the talk page, so I've removed that sentence. It was added by Starmedia111 who also removed the disputed paragraph. If you think the paragraph should be restored, then please discuss this on the talk page of the article. Dbfirs 06:36, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

My article isn't showing?

I wrote a page for The London Allergy & Immunology Centre 3 months ago but I can't see it, how do I track the progress please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AliaCoster (talk • contribs) 07:32, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@AliaCoster: You started Draft:The London Allergy & Immunology Centre 25 February and submitted it for review 15 April. It was deleted 16 April per G11 as "Unambiguous advertising or promotion". Articles should be written from a neutral point of view and be based on published reliable sources showing the subject satisfies Misplaced Pages:Notability (organizations and companies). See also Misplaced Pages:FAQ/Organizations, and Misplaced Pages:Paid-contribution disclosure if you work for the organization. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:15, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Draft:The London Allergy & Immunology Centre shows that it was deleted as G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. It isn't clear why you weren't notified on your user talk page. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:04, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Legally recognized places & notability guideline.

One can read at Misplaced Pages:Notability (geographic features) that: "Legally recognized, populated places are presumed to be notable". But how can we document that a collection of buildings next to village, having a distinct name, is a legally recognized place? Should we trust Censuses that attribute some people to that place/area? Or should a local governing body exist so as to say that area is a legally recognized entity? Τζερόνυμο (talk) 08:00, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

English article - foreign references

Can I write an article in English, but provide references in e.g. Danish, German or other languages? If not, what to do if all of the references are in other languages than English? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JolitaHarba (talk • contribs) 08:29, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

You'll find the policy at WP:Verifiability#Non-English sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:07, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Unable to reset password blocked globally?

Hi, received a notification that a failed login was attempted on my account. Immediately went to change password as a precautionary measure. It kept on resetting the page and new passwords didn't seem to stick. I can login fine, as is evident here, but I thought I'd try and request a new password as if I was locked out. Upon doing so I hit upon an error message stating I was blocked globally from requesting a new password.

Anyone able to advise? I don't want to lose access to my account even though I'm not as active as I once was. I'm trying to do all this on the mobile interface while at work, doesn't seem that intuitive a way of going about things so I'll apologise if in the wrong place. Many thanks.Narom (talk) 11:35, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@Narom: You can request at most 5 temporary password emails per hour. The bottom of the mobile version has a "Desktop" link to get the desktop interface. If you are logged in and know your password then you can use "Change password" at Special:Preferences without an email. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:51, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Many thanks for the reply. I have had no temporary passwords at all, requesting one tells me I'm globally blocked from doing so. Going to that page just doesn't seem to do anything. I can carefully enter passwords into both boxes and submit but nothing happens. The boxes empty themselves, no, error messages appear nor confirmation that it may have worked. I log out to test only for it to only work with my old password that I want to change. Since posting this I've received two more emails stating failed login attempts. Colour me confused. Narom (talk) 12:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Special:ChangePassword works for me in Firefox on a pc. I haven't tried a mobile device. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:26, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks for your help, it just seems it did not agree with me doing it on a mobile device. Now i'm home and at my desktop it changed exactly as youd expect. Cheers Narom (talk) 14:18, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Table cell problem

Could anyone help with this table problem, please?

Here is the table:

I need a single cell on the bottom row to the right of the column 1 heading "Notes", in which I can place text. The cell is shown above as the one containing the text "Widen this to 10 cols; delete cell to the right". It needs to be 10 columns wide. The cell currently to its right (wide and blank) needs to be discarded.

I can achieve this with a colspan instruction but the result is a gray cell and bold font, which I don't want.

A solution will be much appreciated! SCHolar44 (talk) 12:59, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

this?

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:02, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Wow, Trappist! Many thanks! SCHolar44 (talk) 13:06, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Weird page

Please look out this page: Talos (disambiguation).

It ostensibly contains an "asshole section", which doesn't show up in the "edit" mode.

Clearly to be fixed up. --Filippof (talk) 13:13, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@Filippof: It was there for a bit, now I can't see it anymore. Maybe it had to do with a glitch from another wiki and they did something there that removed it here? I have no idea what that was💵Money💵emoji💵 13:36, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Filippof Looks like transclusion vandalism, more common on templates.

L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 15:24, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

It was vandalism of {{Disambiguation page short description}}. The template has been protected and the vandal blocked. @L3X1: The list at "Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page" isn't always up to date. A null edit or any other edit will update it but a purge will not. I made a null edit and Asshole has been removed from the list. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:49, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Failed attempts

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

I keep receiving notices from WP that there have been multiple failed attempts to log into my account from a separate device within the past 2 days. Is this an actual live user trying to hack my account? or just a computer attempting over and over again? and finally: should I change my password? it's pretty strong now. Maineartists (talk) 14:49, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Here because I noticed many recent attempts wiki-wide. I'm not a security expert, but I wouldn't recommend changing your password if it is really strong, unless you fear you may have used it on a device with a key-logger installed or otherwise compromised. I just tried to log into my account with a incorrect password as a test and am awaiting the email from the website. I saw on village pump technical near the bottom that it could be bot, but I don't know if the developers at the 2FA-for-all-editors are testing random accounts. L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 15:19, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@L3X1: You may not get an email notification if the login attempt is from an IP address or device you have recently logged in with. @Maineartists: If your password is strong and not used at other websites then don't worry. Using the same password at multiple sites would be a big security risk. You can disable the notifications at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-echo but may have to do it at the wiki where the login attempts are happening. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:40, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

My password is quite strong and not used anywhere else; so I will take your advice. Thanks! I appreciate your time. Maineartists (talk) 15:59, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

User:Maineartists, User:L3X1 - That is interesting, because I just received a failed login attempt message, and was about to a few questions here. I will not be changing my password, because I know very well what it is, and no one else has a chance at guessing it. My question is whether repeated unsuccessful login attempts can be reported to CheckUser and whether CheckUser can soft-block the IP addresses or IP address ranges that the attempts are from. Since another editor has also reported a failed login, my guess would be that a long-term abuser is behind the attempts, and that strong passwords will work just fine. Can CheckUser investigate if the problem persists? (I know that CheckUser doesn't publicly associate IP addresses with people, but that only means that they don't publicly associate them, because they do see the IP addresses.) Robert McClenon (talk) 18:34, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

This is all over Misplaced Pages today. This was some sort of mass action probably by a malicious bot of some kind. I don’t think the intention was really to breach accounts but rather to cause a bunch of chaos, which they seem to have succeeded at. (related threads are at WP:AN WP:TEA and WP:VPT) I myself haven’t gotten a notice today. It’s been a while, so I don’t remember, does the notification tell you the IP of the attempted login? Otherwise I don’t see how CU could be of use here. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:34, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

I got a notification about a failed log in but it's good to see it wasn't just me. The notification doesn't mention the IP address. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:36, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for verifying that. In that case there is no way for CU to do anything. If they actually succeeded at breaching an account it would be different, but CU can’t tell us who just attempted to log in. Someone in another thread noted that today is designated as “National Password Day” by some organization or other and I suspect this is some trolls way of “celebrating” that. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:48, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Then I hope (Redacted) things happen to that organization, and that most of all, they fail the GNG L3X1 ◊distænt write◊ 20:08, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

That's funny because I just received messages about failed login attempts into my account today too. L293D (☎ • ✎) 20:12, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

FYI it happened to me 14:12 (UTC). L293D (☎ • ✎) 20:19, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Yep, this appears to be a mass event affecting hundreds of users, but it is important to remind everyone that these password reset attempts are not a real security breach. This is just some troll. More information is at the thread at WP:AN. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:28, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Same happened to me. I sure as anything wasn't on Misplaced Pages eight hours ago. The last time somebody tried to break into my account, I ended up asking why the offending IPs weren't revealed. If someone tries to log into an account maliciously, they have surrendered "privacy" for their IPs, in my opinion. Apparently there is already a Phabricator task on the issue of login-attempting IPs, but it is still open. Master of Time (talk) 20:35, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, it’s apparently in the works but not up and running yet. The back office is apparently going to be making some sort of statement about this int he near future. This is on a scale of tens of thousands of failed login attempts over the last several hours. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:41, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Collapsed subinfobox content won’t show

Hello experts,

I have copied a script from Template:Subinfobox bodystyle#Examples with the aim of having an infobox partially collapsed -- in the lower parts -- on opening. My problem is that clicking “Show” doesn’t expand anything (nothing happens). A shortened script is as follows:

Ideally, I’d also like to colour the section headings of the collapsed elements ("Operation" and "Technical" in the example shown) a little greyer than the background, to match the normal infobox headings as in "Overview"; and to centre the words "Operation" and "Technical", which at the moment are right-aligned.

I would be very grateful for help; I've tried my best but I fall short of my ambition at the moment! SCHolar44 (talk) 21:45, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@SCHolar44: Your "show" links work but there is nothing to display. You can only use parameter names which are known by the template you are currently in. If that template is the general {{Infobox}} then you have to work with the numbered header/label/data parameters at Template:Infobox#Main data. I made an example here. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:37, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Aha! I get it now! Many thanks for sharing your expertise and taking the time.

Is there a way to avoid the subinfobox text being indented and to place its headings in the centre instead of on the right? SCHolar44 (talk) 11:10, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@SCHolar44: You placed the subinfoboxes in the status parameter which is displayed in a cell to the right of the "Status" label. My example has now placed them in the embedded parameter which is displayed at the end. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:39, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you again for taking the trouble to advance my knowledge, @PrimeHunter:. I'll be putting it to good use! SCHolar44 (talk) 12:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

how to change the name of an entry?

how to change the name of an entry?

Hi, I am the co-editor of a journal that has resumed publication but under a bi-lingual name. How could I change the name of the entry (the old name of the journal) "Études phénoménologiques" to the new name "Études phénoménologiques - Phenomenological Studies"? Thank youGerard Ghislain (talk) 21:48, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

By entry, I'm assuming you mean article? To my knowledge, you cannot change the name of an article. However, I'd suggest making a redirect from Phenomenological Studies to the French one, or instead, you can create a new article (with both language name) as the title, and merge the original article to it. I'd suggest the former. Hope this helps! Also, please do not make 2 of the same sections. ⇒ Lucie Person (talk) 22:52, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Gerard Ghislain, while Lucie Person is correct in that you can't change the name of an article, you can however WP:MOVE the article to a new name. †dismas†| 22:59, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Dismas, thanks for the clarification, that's what I meant by "merging". Sorry for the confusion! ⇒ Lucie Person (talk) 23:04, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

As I expect you know now, "merging" refers to the rarer and trickier process of combining the content of two separate articles on a subject. Dbfirs 06:49, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Lupton family

In the subcategory "Joseph Lupton" - there is a strange symbol at the end of the name "Joseph Lupton". Should this be removed.? ThanksSrbernadette (talk) 23:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: it was a part of a parentheses. I removed it, not sure why it was there.💵Money💵emoji💵 23:36, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

May 4

Need macros enabled

Hello, I need macros to be enabled so I can add table of contents to my page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Npatwari01 (talk • contribs) 01:00, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Npatwari01. What page would this be? You can add __TOC__ to the page to automatically display a table of contents. Make sure your page has at least one section. — MRD2014  01:04, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

I would guess we are talking about User:Npatwari01/sandbox/Sri Swarupananda Brahmachari which is not divided into sections. It should be organized into sections, once there are four or more a table of contents is auto-generated. See Help:Section for more information. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:14, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Consolidating Watchlists across several language Wikipedias

Is it possible to have a WatchList that covers articles on multiple languages in Misplaced Pages? I'm asking for a friend who started on English Misplaced Pages, and now he has also started editing in Spanish, and wants to keep track of things in one place ... can that be done? --Gronk Oz (talk) 02:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

It can't be done as it is Gronk Oz. I can make a script that would place a separate watchlist link for each Misplaced Pages on the top or side toolbar, which your friend can click and be taken to the watchlist for the respective Misplaced Pages. I'll be free after 15 May, so if your friend wants, ring me up after that. Warmly, L0urdcs 15:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer, @Lourdes: I will pass that on! --Gronk Oz (talk) 16:06, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

@Lourdes: I got the following reply: "WOW, thanks a lot, I think I can let it be for now, AS I intend to force myself to edit mostly in spanish (there is more need for it I think... I mean, how can be that spanish wiki is smaller than the french when there are 5 times more spanish speakers than french in the world... and don't make me talk about germans...) But eventually I guess I'll revisit the theme as it could be quite useful." --Gronk Oz (talk) 16:26, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Great. Let me know whenever. L0urdcs 16:32, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

I happened to came across a few pages/ articles

Once in a while, what if I find something that is almost to WP:SHARE and WP:LOGOUT? Tainted-wingsz (talk) 04:21, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Tainted-wingsz. There is nothing wrong with an editor editing while logged out, either accidentally or intentionally, unless it is done to evade scrutiny, or to falsely appear to be multiple people in a discussion or debate, such as an AfD or an RfC. Similarly, there is nothing wrong with two different editors working from the same computer or location, so that they have the same IP address or similar IPs, unless they are apparently a) working together, and b) attempting to deceptively appear separate so as to gain more weight in a discussion or an edit war. If you seriously think that sort of abusive conduct is occurring, privately alert a CheckUser as described in WP:LOGOUT, But if in doubt, don't, is my advice. DES _{DESiegel Contribs} 12:54, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Oh, it's that there was a problem, where it fitted in one of those category, or "categories." But the info, closely had similar strange edits to a past user that I mention on here. (the person before me at the time, was inserting a see also. But are the said items related to the article, as later on it had a WP:NOTHERE tag to the talk page.) I.e, Saying a political sentence while finishing an edit on a page/ article. And what does that have to do with anything, really? Then while ago I was going across a few articles, where there was strange edits they were doing. Tainted-wingsz (talk) 14:11, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Method to display full Category without paging?

The list of pages in a given Category breaks into additional pages after 200 entries. Is there a way (URL param or other?) to display the entire category on a single page without breaking? Thanks in advance, AUTiger » talk 05:58, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Autiger: I don't know a method on a category page. Misplaced Pages:PetScan at https://petscan.wmflabs.org/ can list the first 10000 pages in html format and maybe more in other formats on the "Output" tab. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:46, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Excellent. I wasn't aware of Petscan and it returns results for a single category if that's all you enter. Perfect for what I need. Thanks! AUTiger » talk 16:03, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Updates to the Air Seychelles Wiki Page

Hi Support,

I am trying to push some updates on the Air Seychelles Misplaced Pages page. However, I got a message from Talk that I am not citing sources (Note that in the past, I cited sources from the official website but were declined). Kindly be advised that as a member of the company I am providing the correct information to be updated, but they are reverted back to original values. Recent changes that was made is as per below:

(1) Paris and Madagascar route no longer applicable as they have been stopped. (2) Number of Twin Otter aircraft reduced to 5 from the fleet. The Airbus A330 is no longer with the company, hence to be removed as well. (3) Codeshare partners with Jet airways, Etihad airways and South African airways (saa) only.

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pvalmont (talk • contribs) 06:01, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@Pvalmont: I saw you mentioning the official website link in the edit summary. That can be used as reference. Visit here for more information about citing sources. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 06:24, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

There are two problems with your edits. One is that you have a WP:Conflict of interest and other editors wonder whether you are WP:PAID to edit. We often have paid editors who want to push publicity and promotion onto Misplaced Pages, but clearly this was not your intention here. The other problem is that you removed a reference without replacing it with a better reference. The argument "I know, I work for the company" is not an acceptable authority on Misplaced Pages since we have no way to confirm who you are. See WP:Referencing for beginners on how to add a reference to confirm the corrections that you want to make. Dbfirs 06:42, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Harold Acton

I wish to report the fact that the photograph on the Harold Acton page, captioned 'Harold Acton', is definitely not him. It has appeared recently. Please can you help me get this information across. There are many photos of Harold Acton in the 1920s, all showing him bald or nearly bald, completely unlike this fellow who has a full head of hair. Passignano — Preceding unsigned comment added by Passignano (talk • contribs) 13:08, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

• Our picture was uploaded to commons by User:Elisa.rolle. You might want to discuss it on that user's talk page. If you can find a published photo, please link to it in your discussion. -Arch dude (talk) 15:23, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
  • The website which hosted the picture removed it. There is another one around the same time, 1922, so I replaced it. Elisa.rolle (talk) 16:10, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

2017 Wikitext Editor

At some point the editor switched and my edits are all tagged 2017 Wikitext editor. I have no problem with said editor.

My question is: there are tags for other models of editor, and a lot of edits are not tagged at all. What is the not-tagged-at-all editor? Is it the the former one from before Wikitext? How do I get it? When I push Edit the Wikitext editor is the one that comes up, so I would expect to see that tag all over. But I don't.

I understand that once in that editor I have an option to use some WYSWYG version, which I usually eschew. Is that the unmarked one? M.boli (talk) 14:05, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@M.boli: You get the 2017 wikitext editor by enabling "New wikitext mode" or "Automatically enable all new beta features" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. They are disabled by default. VisualEditor can be enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing. wikEd can be enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. wikEd is a user script and doesn't make a tag. If you don't enable any of these then you get the default source editor. The mobile version of the site has a variant of the source editor and also makes a tag. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:18, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Yap! Thank you. I turned off the beta features, and I get an older editor page. I like the new one, but I was darn curious. Thanks! M.boli (talk) 16:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Identifying reliable source

If I enter some text and make a reference, can I reference a source whose reliability I do not know, I assume that if it is not reliable it will be rejected. What is the easiest way to do this without causing confusion? Sui docuit (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

• First, you must actually access and read the source, not just assume that the source says something (e.g., because someone else used it). If you have done that and the source "feels" OK to you and does not clearly fail the criteria in WP:RS, then be bold and use it. If you are in doubt but you think it might be OK, then use it but also post a question at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources/Noticeboard, and then come back later and repair the article if needed. Please don't just assume some magic will happen: all the editors are volunteers and it's better to avoid making additional work for them if possible. -Arch dude (talk) 15:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

  Pinging Sui docuit, and elaborating on the above please don't just assume some magic will happen: there is no computer program to tell if a source is reliable, either, if that is what you had in mind. Google and Facebook are full of smart people when it comes to algorithms, machine learning etc. yet Facebook's answer to fake news websites (admittedly a subset of "unreliable sources") for now is manual review and asking users to flag content. So you cannot expect a team of Misplaced Pages volunteers or staff to have that nailed down with automation. Tigraan 16:56, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

To put it a bit more positively, Welcome to the team! As an editor, you have just as much authority as all of the rest of us, and we appreciate your efforts, so just be bold (WP:BOLD) and do what you think is the right thing. If someone disagrees, they can revert, and then you can discuss (WP:BRD). If you are unsure, discuss first. This is the process we have used to create an encyclopedia of more than 5.6 million articles in less than 20 years, with the help of more than a million editors. -Arch dude (talk) 02:45, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Is there a Whatlinkshere for sections

I split the section of an article into another article and fixed incoming links. But then, I found that Special:WhatLinksHere was not indicating me the redirections to specific sections. For example, the articles that link directly to Jesus#Perspectives. What can I do to fix see them and fix this kind of links systematically? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaoGo (talk • contribs)

• I tried a few hacks based on insource but did not manage to make any of them work. Tigraan 17:04, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

A search on insource:"Jesus#Perspectives" may work but it can both give false results and miss real results, e.g. if the section link used a redirect. It gives no real article results here but clicking "Everything" gives two results in other namespaces (one of them your above question). You can sometimes reduce false results with insource:"Jesus#Perspectives" linksto:Jesus which only gives pages which actually link to Jesus. Both false results did here so it makes no difference. The more complicated insource:"Jesus#Perspectives" insource:/Jesus\#Perspectives/ is more accurate by only listing pages with the exact string "Jesus#Perspectives". A normal search will allow other characters instead of "#". PrimeHunter (talk) 17:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Fostina Dixon

Fostina Dixon - Please take out age. Born - August 16. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FossieMaestra (talk • contribs) 20:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

@FossieMaestra: Hello, the Wiki page for Dixon does not contain her age. If you are seeing the results of a Google search, these often display information in such a way as to imply it came from Misplaced Pages. We have no control over what Google displays, however, there is a feedback link at the foot of their information pane. Please sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes, (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 21:35, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

May 5

Separation of a title from body of article.

Hello. Recently I added a section to the page called "List of superlative trees" in which I listed the trees bearing the largest flowers. Somehow (my fault I'm sure) the title became separated from the chart, with the chart ending up beneath the references. Any suggestions how to fix this ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Treeenthusiast (talk • contribs) 04:52, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

I've closed the table, by adding "|}" at the end. Maproom (talk) 06:59, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Recovering my account

Hi, I reset the password to my account (User:MaxBrowne) but now I've managed to forget my new password. I don't think I had any email associated with that account, if I did it was probably one that I've abandoned. Can I still recover that account? A quick check will confirm that my IP is the same as that of MaxBrowne. I will happily abandon this account if I can recover the original. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 06:39, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

If you cannot possibly remember the password, and have no access to an email account associated with that account, then that account will have to be abandoned. I can sometimes remember old passwords by waiting a day or two, engaging in my favorite relaxation techniques, and putting myself into the frame of mind that I was in when I created the password. Good luck to you. Cullen Let's discuss it 06:49, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Couldn't you just do an IP check to confirm my identity, then email to an address associated with this new account? MaxBrowne2 (talk) 08:06, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

User:MaxBrowne has stored an email address. If you enter the username and no email address at Special:PasswordReset then a password mail is sent to whatever address is stored. If you may have access to it then check for spam/junk filtering by your email system. The last password you stored in the account doesn't expire when a password mail is sent. It only expires if the mailed password is actually used so you can still try to remember the password. Wikimedia system administrators (not Misplaced Pages administrators like me) can set a new email address for an account so a password mail can be received but they only do it in rare cases like hacked accounts with high user rights. And they require strong evidence of identity, probably much more than having access to the same IP address. I doubt they would bother with a verification of your identity when the account only has rollback rights and 8,000 edits. You can just use the new account and mention the connection on the user pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:28, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Visual editor links

Hi when I place internal link in editor there is some short description of it.Where and how it can be changed?--Shrike (talk) 09:14, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Can you specify which edit? Thanks. Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 09:52, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Here is an example Misplaced Pages:VisualEditor/User_guide#Editing_links for example World is a "common name for the.. "--Shrike (talk) 10:02, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

• The descriptions seen are from Wikidata I believe. Eagleash (talk) 10:59, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

• Thanks.--Shrike (talk) 11:27, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

  Unless somebody has added a {{short description}} tag to the article, in which case it comes from there. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 13:55, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

I edited an article and my change was removed.

I edited an article on https://en.wikipedia.org/Sun_Tzu.

I added: "In 2018 The Revised Art of War by Keiran Proffer was published in the U.K. This is the first complete revision of Sun Tzu’s work in the English language." This change was removed the following day.

Under history it showed: (cur | prev) 17:19, 4 May 2018‎ Underbar dk (talk | contribs)‎ . . (30,833 bytes) (-162)‎ . . (Undid revision 839585632 by Cath Writer (talk) need to clarify what's meant by "revision" here, otherwise i don't see the need to WP:ADvertise another version by a self-published author) (undo | thank) (Tag: Undo)

'Need to clarify what's meant by "revision"'. Easy to ask, but a full explanation would take some time. Basically ′The Art of War′ was made as a series of terse jottings, in quite a random order, and which frequently wander off the point of the chapter. A revision, putting the notes into a logical order, and re-arranging the chapters, has been made in Chinese, but ′The Revised Art of War′ is the first revision in the English language.

Cath Writer (talk) 10:44, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

You should go to Talk:Sun Tzu and make this explanation. The article's talk page is tthe best place to discuss the article. People who are interested in the article will be watching it. Underbar dk will probably be watching it also and can respond with more info about why the info was removed. ~ GB fan 10:59, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

I was terminated because the Sup. didn't like me. But. she gave a letter stating unsatisfactory work can I take her to small claims court?

I have e-mails to prove what I'm saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:40B:8503:7F6A:2076:C99A:B28C:EDFD (talk) 13:54, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

You need to talk to a lawyer in the jurisdiction where this happened. We can not help you. ~ GB fan 14:04, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

This board is for asking questions about editing Misplaced Pages, not for general questions. Please see the Misplaced Pages Legal Disclaimer. As GB fan says, we cannot give legal opinions and any legal advice you got here would be worth exactly what you paid for it (i.e., nothing). Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:03, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello Misplaced Pages, I have a question about the article "Conversion Therapy"

I read the article concerning conversion therapy and found it to be quite political and even biased, and trying my best to conserve as a non-biased source as I have in the past seen it as not this. Note, I do not condone this practice at all, again, I just want to preserve fact over opinion on Misplaced Pages. The edit I made was quickly undone, and I made 2 simple edits. The previous contributor to the article called it a pseudoscience, despite conversion therapy not being a direct or even indirect contradiction of science. The other I edited from was removing a politically charged "rant" sounding bit of the article in the beginning. These were the only changes I made, and was wondering if you could share more light on what I did was not contributive in nature. Thanks (https://en.wikipedia.org/Conversion_therapy) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.144.160.126 (talk) 21:54, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Multiple ReliableSources describe it is pseudoscientific, so it is called that in the article. I can’t find any thing about a rant being removed in the page history; could you possibly explain what the rant you removed contained?💵Money💵emoji💵 22:25, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

• Yeah ... "despite conversion therapy not being a direct or even indirect contradiction of science". Um, no, the evidence shows it's not related to science at all. Black Kite (talk) 22:39, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

May 6

reflist and col div with the same colomn width

I often use {{reflist}} with a column width of 30em and get a four columns on my display. When I use {{div col}} with colwidth=30em I get three columns. Why is this happening? And can it be fixed?User-duck (talk) 01:06, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Font size. Compare:

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|style=font-size:90%:

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{{reflist}} sets font size to 90% of normal.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 02:03, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for such a concise explanation and demonstration! All I need to do is to use colwidth=27em for div col!

normal font size |colwidth=27em

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|style=font-size:90% |colwidth=30em:

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User-duck (talk) 02:44, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Inquiry on adding a new feline member to "List of oldest cats" page please

Hello! As long-time readers of Misplaced Pages (and having just become a registered user), we are hoping to have some info added to your page "List of oldest cats" (a semi-protected page) but are not sure how to go about doing this.

Our beloved tabby Meetsi is verifiably 24 years old, making her the third oldest cat in Canada (and 8th in the world currently alive), at least according to this Wiki list. She was born in 1994 and has a microchip in her ear with this birth year. We also have dated vet records (an "authoritative agency"), to substantiate our claim. She may not live for much longer, but we would be honored to have her join your esteemed feline list:).

Please advise how we could add Meetsi's info to your site. We appreciate your help in getting her longevity officially recognized!

Thanks! cjoypenner — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjoypenner (talk • contribs) 01:50, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Please see these instructions. Thanks! Septrillion (talk) 01:58, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

my article

I have been editing my article multiple times before submitting and I have clicked the submit button multiple times, but when my professor tries to read my article it shows that there have been no edits for a long period of time. Can you please help me understand how to submit my article correctly so that my professor can see that i have worked on it. Please understand that this is a time concerning manner as grades are due this coming week. Thank you for your help.Kelsmika (talk) 01:58, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

It looks like you haven't edited your draft since April 18. As the AfC reviewer said, the contents should probably be merged into the Dementia article. Who is your professor? Does he/she/ze have a Misplaced Pages account? Septrillion (talk) 02:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Or she. General Ization 02:08, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

You have not made any edits to Draft:Dementia and nutrition between April 18th and May 6th (above), so I wonder what version you have been editing? Do you have another account and a version in a sandbox? Perhaps you have a copy on your own computer that you have been updating? The draft contains unencyclopaedic language in addressing the reader as "you", and reads more like an essay. It is unlikely that your draft will be accepted as a separate article, so I hope your professor is realistic and expects only a "Misplaced Pages-style" attempt. If you find an updated copy, you are welcome to copy it to your draft so that your professor can read it there, but you will need to explain that you made some edits off-line. Dbfirs 06:58, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Recent Draft

I submitted a draft for publishing and now can't find it. It stated that until it was accepted or declined that it could be edited. Can someone advise where to find it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megan at LaneaxisVSM (talk • contribs) 14:46, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

I think possibly your earlier version of Draft:LaneAxis Virtual Freight Management was deleted as promotional. You should have been notified of the reason but I can't see anything on your talk page. Did it have any independent WP:Reliable sources? Dbfirs 15:36, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

@Megan at LaneaxisVSM: As an administrator I can see deleted pages. The only page your account has edited is Draft:LaneAxis Virtual Freight Management which was created after your question. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:40, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

... so did you create a draft without logging in or using a different account? Dbfirs 15:44, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Why won't my edits stay

Why won't my edits stay ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:100E:B026:CE54:EDA8:C9CF:AD42:77A1 (talk) 17:27, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, please provide links to any pages where you are encountering difficulties. Your edits, from the IP used to post here, at Roger Troutman and Zapp have not been removed; although some tidying and possibly sourcing would be needed to bring them more into line with Misplaced Pages's manual of style. Eagleash (talk) 17:58, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello, person contributing from Arizona and Colorado. You have been adding unreferenced stuff to the Zapp (band) and Roger Troutman articles, and related topics, for a couple of months now, using multiple IP addresses. Your disruptive contributions have resulted in the Troutman biography being protected from unregistered users such as yourself, a protection style called WP:Pending changes. The pending changes status means that your contributions don't show up to the reader until a registered user comes along and approves them.

Examples of your disruptive changes include:

• Unreferenced list of family names
• Crediting Roger and Larry instead of Zapp & Roger
• Accusation of theft, a violation of the WP:BLP policy
• removal of a band member
• Asserting falsely that Zapp is just Roger Troutman and not his other brothers and other band members
• Puffery including Troutman's "most prized creation six sons".
• Lots of unreferenced puffery and promotion, including Troutman's "most prized creation six sons".
• promotion of Roger Troutman
• promotion of Roger Troutman
• promotion of Roger Troutman
• promotion of Roger Troutman
• promotion of Roger Troutman

So the answer to your question is that you should register a username so you can edit through article protection, but more importantly, you should stop promoting Roger Troutman to the detriment of the other brothers, and you should always cite your sources for information. Binksternet (talk) 20:17, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Correct/proper reference/cite

I have encountered the following in an article:

According to the sheet music for the song, is set in the time signature of common time, with a tempo of 100 beats per minute. It is set in the key of F major with Madonna's voice spanning from the notes of C₅ to B♭₅. "Spotlight" has a basic sequence of Am–C–Am–C–G–F as its chord progression.

1. "Digital Sheet Music – Madonna – You Can Dance". Amazon, Warner Records. January 1, 1988. ASIN B00745E3DE. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |url= (help)

Since I cannot verify the statement from the cited source. I think the source needs to be changed. When I ask for clarification, another editor removes the "clarification needed" and states all sources do not need to be online. True statement, but then a different source needs to be cited. Am I correct? User-duck (talk) 18:02, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

No. There is no requirement that sources must be easily accessible; only that sources must exist. See WP:SOURCEACCESS part of WP:V.

As an aside, your example citation is a {{cite web}} without |url=. {{cite web}} requires a url (there is a hidden error message – instructions for how to make those error messages visible is at Help:CS1 errors).

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:34, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

@User-duck: The sheet music may well contain the information, it is not possible to say from what we have. However, there is a requirement to assume good faith and trust that the original editor has verified it. However, the link is to an Amazon listing of the sheet music for sale and we probably should not be linking to 'commercial' pages like that. By the same token, if a book contained information used as a source in an article, the reference would be to the book itself, not an Amazon listng of it. Eagleash (talk) 19:12, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Correct and I neglected to mention that. Sometimes use of |asin= is acceptable when Amazon offers a 'look inside' – this is much the same as facsimile previews at Google books. Where there is no 'look inside' option, all we are doing with |asin= is feeding the vendor; we should not be doing that. The correct citation, in my opinion, provides detail from the source, from the sheet music: author, title, publisher and location, ismn, year of publication, etc.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:23, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

question

Ive got almost 60,000 edits/almost 6 years experience from 2012(not counting as an IP which would be 2009) do I qualify automatically for any further user right at this point? (just curious)--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 18:22, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

There are no editing-related automatic rights beyond extendedconfirmed after 30 days and 500 edits. You are extendedconfirmed. Some elections require more to vote but you have passed all requirements long ago. Other rights have to be requested and reviewed. See Misplaced Pages:Requests for permissions. It could be said you have the "right" to display Misplaced Pages:Service awards on your user page but I don't think it's checked. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:30, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

thanks--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 19:31, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

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