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Per Misplaced Pages:Not every single thing Donald Trump does deserves an article, this is a WP:TOOSOON article about a thing Donald Trump said that has not yet risen to the level of needing its own standalone article. We already have the broad historical overview Movements for the annexation of Canada to the United States, where this can be (and in fact already is) briefly addressed, but it's not at all clear that a few bloviating comments during the post-election transition period, when the president-elect hasn't even been (re)inaugurated yet, would already need their own spinoff article as their own topic independently of the overview.
Certainly if 45/47 actually launches a war on Canada during his term, then we'd obviously start a new article about that war when that happens -- but as long as it's just words, many of which are just rephrasing content that's already in the overview article as it is, it's not permanently notable just because Donald Trump said words.
Further, there was a significant bypass of process here: a user created Draft:2024-2025 proposals for Canadian annexation to the United States, which got rejected at WP:AFC on the grounds of lacking sufficient context to justify the need for a standalone article, but then a different user created a one-line stub which looked like this, following which the first user copy-pasted the content from their draft into it with very little effort to actually address the reasons why the draft was rejected in the first place.
This just has not yet risen to the level of needing its own standalone article as a separate topic from all the other past discourse around this concept. Bearcat (talk) 15:36, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Canada and United States of America. Bearcat (talk) 15:36, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, having worked on the 51st state article before this remarks, I think that splitting it off from the already large 51st state article and the traditional annexation article makes a lot of sense. The reason is its not clear Trump is being serious, rather as Trudeau said he seems to be distracting from other issues. Certainly, neither rino or maga has ever heard of the Canadian unification as part of his campaign rhetoric, and its hard to believe any conservative would want this as it would swing the balance of power in the USA back to the democratic party permanently. So I don't see it as part of the traditional unification movement, which every time it has happened it comes from the people in that region (for example Hawaii and Marianas had 90%+ votes in favor basically). Actually, what is very likely Trump is trying to distract from a place that is actually due to become a State, Puerto Rico, which has ten years of referendums in favor but again votes democratic so it would push the narrow balance of power in the USA back to blue. That is where I find the Canadian response remarkable, truly the USA has the best friend to the north to handle such a bizarre discourse in such a respectful way. Montekarloh (talk) 16:29, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete information fork - main points already at Movements for the annexation of Canada to the United States. Talk at Talk:2024–2025 proposals for Canadian annexation to the United States and Draft:2024-2025 proposals for Canadian annexation to the United States shows little support as outlined at Misplaced Pages:Notability (events) "This notability guideline for events reflects consensus reached through discussions".Moxy🍁 18:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bilateral relations and Politics. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 20:05, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete None of these proposals are real or substantive, but rather pointless bloviating with political motives other than actual annexation. The concept is already covered at other articles such as Movements for the annexation of Canada to the United States. There is no need for this forked article with unnecessary detail or reactions, with quotes of every Truth Social post the guy makes, which appears as news/recentism coverage falling under WP:NESTDTDDAN. Reywas92 20:23, 13 January 2025 (UTC)