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== The difference between hebephiles or ephebophiles and typical heterosexual men? == == The difference between hebephiles or ephebophiles and typical heterosexual men? ==


As has frequently been mentioned before here in old talk page discussions, typical heterosexual men appear to have an intense sexual attraction to (and also sexual interest in) teenagers – possibly even more intense than to fully adult women at age 20 and older. See also , which points in the same direction. One could extrapolate the curve and conclude that the peak age of attraction is even younger – 13/14 has been suggested. Wouldn't this make most heterosexual men ephebophiles or even hebephiles? As has frequently been mentioned before here in old talk page discussions, typical heterosexual men appear to have an intense sexual attraction to (and also sexual interest in) teenagers – possibly even more intense than to fully adult women at age 20 and older. See also , which points in the same direction. One could extrapolate the curve and conclude that the peak age of attraction might actually be even younger – 13/14 has been suggested. Wouldn't this make most heterosexual men ephebophiles or even hebephiles?


It seems to me that this is not necessarily the case, probably not the case at all, and there could still be a distinctive difference: interest in older women wanes quickly for ephebophiles and especially hebephiles, and they are rather put off by signs of maturity such as thick thighs (as mentioned in the discussion before), while the decline – as seemingly indicated by the moderate steepness of the curve in Fig. 2 (see top left) in the linked study – is much less pronounced in typical heterosexual men, who still find typical women in their 20s highly attractive. In contrast, ephebophiles and even more so hebephiles – as my understanding goes – find most women in their 20s completely uninteresting and too mature, even far too mature. I find this quite plausible. It's also difficult to imagine that most heterosexual men just settle with fully adult women because teenagers are not available to them, and in reality are practically not sexually interested in these women at all. (After all, prostitutes sought out by heterosexual men are typically in their 20s and not teenagers, even if they're legal age. If most heterosexual men were ephebophiles, let alone hebephiles, prostitutes at 18 and 19 would be in even more intense demand and prostitutes in their 20s would find it considerably harder to find clients. The same is true for other sex work, and for porn, which isn't overwhelmingly teenie porn. And even It seems to me that this is not necessarily the case, probably not the case at all, and there could still be a distinctive difference: interest in older women wanes quickly for ephebophiles and especially hebephiles, and they are rather put off by signs of maturity such as thick thighs (as mentioned in the discussion before), while the decline – as seemingly indicated by the moderate steepness of the curve in Fig. 2 (see top left) in the linked study – is much less pronounced in typical heterosexual men, who still find typical women in their 20s highly attractive. In contrast, ephebophiles and even more so hebephiles – as my understanding goes – find most women in their 20s completely uninteresting and too mature, even far too mature. I find this quite plausible. It's also difficult to imagine that most heterosexual men just settle with fully adult women because teenagers are not available to them, and in reality are practically not sexually interested in these women at all. (After all, prostitutes sought out by heterosexual men are typically in their 20s and not teenagers, even if they're legal age. If most heterosexual men were ephebophiles, let alone hebephiles, prostitutes at 18 and 19 would be in even more intense demand and prostitutes in their 20s would find it considerably harder to find clients. The same is true for other sex work, and for porn, which isn't overwhelmingly teenie porn. And even
''if'' many/most men ''do'' seek out teenage-themed content more than anything else online, that might be because it is more exciting and harder to get elsewhere, not necessarily because they are practically only attracted to teenagers.) Rather, a true ephebophile would presumably find it difficult to even ''settle'' for an older woman, and would prefer to stay single. --] (]) 15:46, 23 October 2021 (UTC) ''if'' many/most men ''do'' seek out teenage-themed content more than anything else online, that might be because it is more exciting and harder to get elsewhere, not necessarily because they are practically only attracted to teenagers.) Rather, a true ephebophile would presumably find it difficult to even ''settle'' for an older woman, and would prefer to stay single. Is my reasoning here correct? --] (]) 15:46, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

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The difference between hebephiles or ephebophiles and typical heterosexual men?

As has frequently been mentioned before here in old talk page discussions, typical heterosexual men appear to have an intense sexual attraction to (and also sexual interest in) teenagers – possibly even more intense than to fully adult women at age 20 and older. See also Bruchman and Newman 2018, which points in the same direction. One could extrapolate the curve and conclude that the peak age of attraction might actually be even younger – 13/14 has been suggested. Wouldn't this make most heterosexual men ephebophiles or even hebephiles?

It seems to me that this is not necessarily the case, probably not the case at all, and there could still be a distinctive difference: interest in older women wanes quickly for ephebophiles and especially hebephiles, and they are rather put off by signs of maturity such as thick thighs (as mentioned in the discussion before), while the decline – as seemingly indicated by the moderate steepness of the curve in Fig. 2 (see top left) in the linked study – is much less pronounced in typical heterosexual men, who still find typical women in their 20s highly attractive. In contrast, ephebophiles and even more so hebephiles – as my understanding goes – find most women in their 20s completely uninteresting and too mature, even far too mature. I find this quite plausible. It's also difficult to imagine that most heterosexual men just settle with fully adult women because teenagers are not available to them, and in reality are practically not sexually interested in these women at all. (After all, prostitutes sought out by heterosexual men are typically in their 20s and not teenagers, even if they're legal age. If most heterosexual men were ephebophiles, let alone hebephiles, prostitutes at 18 and 19 would be in even more intense demand and prostitutes in their 20s would find it considerably harder to find clients. The same is true for other sex work, and for porn, which isn't overwhelmingly teenie porn. And even if many/most men do seek out teenage-themed content more than anything else online, that might be because it is more exciting and harder to get elsewhere, not necessarily because they are practically only attracted to teenagers.) Rather, a true ephebophile would presumably find it difficult to even settle for an older woman, and would prefer to stay single. Is my reasoning here correct? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 15:46, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

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