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    Discussions:

    • RM, 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests → 2019–20 Hong Kong protests, Moved, 1 January 2020, discussion
    • RM, 2019–20 Hong Kong protests → 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests, No consensus, 2 May 2020, discussion
    • RM, 2019–2021 Hong Kong protests → 2019–21 Hong Kong protests, Procedural close and moved back to 2019–20 Hong Kong protests, 31 December 2020, discussion
    • RM, 2019–20 Hong Kong protests → 2019–2021 Hong Kong protests, Moved to 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests, 4 April 2021, discussion
    • RM, 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests → ?, not moved, 2 July 2021, discussion
    • RM, 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests → Anti-Extradition Law Amendment Bill Movement, not moved, 10 August 2021, discussion
    Older discussions:
    • RM, 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests → 2019 Hong Kong protests, Not moved, 10 June 2019, discussion
    • RM, 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests → 2019 Hong Kong crisis, Not moved, 2 September 2019, discussion
    • RM, 2019 Hong Kong anti-extradition bill protests → 2019 Hong Kong protests, Moved, 4 September 2019, discussion
    Section sizes
    Section size for 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests (39 sections)
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    (Top) 21,843 21,843
    Names 4,482 4,482
    Background 72 11,250
    Direct cause 3,472 3,472
    Underlying causes 7,706 7,706
    Objectives 6,978 6,978
    History 30 87,960
    Early large-scale demonstrations 10,844 10,844
    Storming of the Legislative Council and escalation 20,954 20,954
    Intensification and sieges of the universities 19,283 19,283
    Electoral landslide and COVID-19 7,212 7,212
    Implementation of the national security law 13,102 13,102
    Subsequent clampdown and exodus 16,535 16,535
    Clashes between protesters and counter-protesters 22,862 22,862
    Tactics and methods 4,880 47,971
    Moderate group 20,612 20,612
    Radical group 22,479 22,479
    Online confrontations 10,278 10,278
    Police misconduct 3,205 52,299
    Alleged inappropriate use of force 24,452 24,452
    Questionable tactics and unprofessional behaviour 16,622 16,622
    Lack of accountability 8,020 8,020
    Local media coverage 16,900 16,900
    Impact 12 45,289
    Economy 11,516 11,516
    Governance 9,720 9,720
    Police's image and accountability 7,920 7,920
    Society 11,782 11,782
    Death Toll 4,339 4,339
    Reactions 72 70,958
    Hong Kong government 16,255 16,255
    Macau government 984 984
    Domestic reactions 13,337 13,337
    Mainland China reactions 20,218 20,218
    International reactions 20,092 20,092
    See also 622 622
    Notes 26 26
    References 30 30
    External links 2,421 2,421
    Total 402,169 402,169
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    NPOV

    The entire article is insanely POV towards the protesters/rioters. Genuinely, the fact that the article title is called "Hong Kong protests" instead of riots, or even civil unrest just goes to show how pov it is. Yes, it is technically correct under WP:NPOVTITLE, but we could at least add a redirect from "2019 hong kong civil unrest" or something like that. Furthermore, most of the body article is pov as well. The entire article is written as if it was the righteous protester/rioter against evil china and its minions. For example, under "subsequent clampdown and exodus", the quote "The police continued to use the law to target local activists and critics of Beijing, including business tycoon Jimmy Lai. In January 2021, the police arrested more than 50 individuals, all of whom were candidates in the primaries for 'subverting state power'. " prominently displays use of scare quotes in "'subverting state power'", and also "the police ... Jimmy Lai", implies that the law was made solely for the purpose of strengthening the police so that they could target people the government didn't like. IMHO, a possible rewriting could be "Local activists and critics of Beijing, including business tycoon Jimmy Lai were arrested under the national security law." This doesn't betray the original message (that local activists and critics were arrested), and is also NPOV.

    All in all, I think that we should consider adding an NPOV dispute for the entire article, at least until we can properly rewrite it. I've already done some editing of the especially egregious shooting incidents, which make it sound like the police shot them for no reason. SherlockHolmes23 (talk) 08:40, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

    I agree with the above.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:58, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
    Misplaced Pages reflects the bulk of reporting by WP:RS. The mainstream media calls the activites protests rather than riots. Therefore, Misplaced Pages is constrained to the do the same. Similar points apply to your other complaints; see, for example, the source cited which itself puts "subverting state power" in quotes. Rolf H Nelson (talk) 04:05, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

    Corresponding article about aftermath, sentencing, and government restrictions?

    @Citobun, Jax 0677, Matthew hk, Newfraferz87, OceanHok, and Ohconfucius:
    Hello, is there a related article that discusses the aftermath of the protests, including legal consequences faced by notable individuals who had participated?

    For example, this recent CNN article: Hong Kong finds 90-year-old cardinal guilty over pro-democracy protest fund

    It discusses Cardinal Joseph Zen, Cantopop singer Denise Ho, barrister Margaret Ng, scholar Hui Po Keung, and politician Cyd Ho, who were all found guilty and fined for administering a legal defense fund during the protests. Where would information like this go? Does a related article exist that could facilitate such additions and updates? Thanks. 98.155.8.5 (talk) 09:53, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

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