Misplaced Pages

Revision as of 13:40, 16 May 2023

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Pristina article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic. New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help. Assume good faith Be polite and avoid personal attacks Be welcoming to newcomers Seek dispute resolution if needed Article policies Neutral point of view No original research Verifiability

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3Auto-archiving period: 28 days

Template:Vital article

This article has not yet been rated on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Kosovo Top‑importance Pristina is part of WikiProject Kosovo, an attempt to co-ordinate articles relating to Kosovo on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. If you are new to editing Misplaced Pages visit the welcome page so as to become familiar with the guidelines. If you would like to participate, please join the project and help with our open tasks.KosovoWikipedia:WikiProject KosovoTemplate:WikiProject KosovoKosovo Top This article has been rated as Top-importance on the project's importance scale. Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Illyria Low‑importance This article is within the scope of WikiProject Illyria, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Illyria and Illyrians on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IllyriaWikipedia:WikiProject IllyriaTemplate:WikiProject IllyriaIllyria Low This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale. Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details. Cities: National capitals This article is within the scope of WikiProject Cities, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of cities, towns and various other settlements on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.CitiesWikipedia:WikiProject CitiesTemplate:WikiProject CitiesWikiProject Cities This article is supported by the project's national capital taskforce.

To-do list for Pristina: edit · history · watch · refresh · Updated 2010-03-25 Here are some tasks awaiting attention: Copyedit : some needed Expand : add sections on education, places of interest, transport, governance, etc NPOV : it is difficult to tell whether some statements are objective or POV - more use needed of references to reliable sources and reference to/presentation of opposing viewpoints Verify : needs more inline citations to progress up the quality scale, particularly given the recent history Other : remove irrelevant material, eg, ref to Ulpiana (it's not even close and it's covered elsewhere!)

The contentious topics procedure applies to this page. This page is related to the Balkans or Eastern Europe, which has been designated as a contentious topic. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

For past discussions on the most common English language spelling of the city's name, see Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (Kosovo-related articles)/Prishtina-Pristina-Priština.

Conflict about edits

Evening @HoneymoonAve27, I wanted to discuss the issue about our recent edits.

I've already explained why I removed the quotes:

- obsolete, low quality and not reliable sources.

You do not have to answer to this if you want me to revert your edits without further discussing. AlexBachmann (talk) 19:37, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

The Serbian Literary Cooperative is certainly not an unreliable source. — HoneymoonAve27 (talk) 11:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I removed the 1913 source per WP:AGEMATTERS. It's an old and unreliable source. The relevant Ottoman defters which were published in the 1970s show that before the Ottoman era, Prishtina was just a small village and remained so for quite some time. The 1913 contradicts the main body of the article which explicitly argues that all contemporary sources describe it as a village before Ottoman urbanization.

Vinča culture is a Middle Neolithic culture, not a Paleolithic one.--Maleschreiber (talk) 19:48, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

I will remove the parts that we've been conflicting on on grounds of age matters and lack of reliablity. AlexBachmann (talk) 13:21, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

We can also use the second source and write "according to Serbian sources" because it does not fall under age matters. AlexBachmann (talk) 01:59, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

I have had an extensive read and I can only find sources describing Pristina as a royal court for Stefan Dušan. I found no sources describing it as a royal court for Stefan Milutin, Stefan Uroš III, Stefan Uroš V nor Vuk Branković. Given that John VI Kantakouzenos met Stefan Dušan in Pristina in 1342, it demonstrates that a court was there. If you have conflicting sources, please list them. ElderZamzam (talk) 03:06, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@ElderZamzam: Stefan Dušan had no "royal court" or even a capital, his "court" was wherever he was at the time of the meeting. There is no court palace or any other structure in Pristina which would suggest even a small "court". Guylas (2021): Under Dušan’s reign Kosovo became the central part of the Serbian state. When investigating the political sphere, it can be stated, that the political centre was moved from Raš to Priština, then to Prizren, eventually to Skopje. --Maleschreiber (talk) 11:17, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Note

@AlexBachmann: Greeting. A note when mentioning Kosovo as a country is always added to the infobox and the article itself (which you already know, but okay). This has already been discussed before when determining the use of this note. This applies whether it is a city, a lake, a mountain or anything related to Kosovo/Kosovo and Metohija (1, 2). Once again, I would like to take the opportunity to ask you to turn more towards neutrality. — Ruach Chayim (talk) 12:24, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Dejure / defacto

Greeting. I came up with the idea of standardizing the text of the articles on Kosovo (and Metohija) with that of the articles on Northern Cyprus, Transnistria and other "states" that are not members of the UN. So, as in the article of North Nicosia, I think that Kosovo should be added to the infobox as a de facto state and Serbia as de jure. This could also remove the note that explains the political situation in which Kosovo (and Metohija) are. — Ruach Chayim (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

That is a impertinent proposal. You're just using Northern Cyprus to justify your POV (Your intention is clear when you use "Kosovo (and Metohija)"). There has also been no discussion with the whole thing dejure/defacto in Northern Cyprus. Therefore it is not comparable. AlexBachmann (talk) 17:35, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 May 2023

It is requested that an edit be made to the semi-protected article at Pristina. (edit · history · last · links · protection log) This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y". The edit may be made by any autoconfirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{ESp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

On the pictures to the right when you enter the page the Sahat kulla is mistaken from Mother Theresa Cathedral. (the picture shows Sahatkulla but what you wrote says Cathedral of Saint Mother Theresa) Jonitooo (talk) 13:40, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

• All unassessed articles
• C-Class Kosovo articles
• Top-importance Kosovo articles
• WikiProject Kosovo articles
• C-Class Illyria articles
• Low-importance Illyria articles
• All WikiProject Illyria pages
• C-Class WikiProject Cities articles
• C-Class WikiProject Cities national capital articles
• WikiProject Cities national capital articles
• All WikiProject Cities pages
• Misplaced Pages pages with to-do lists
• Misplaced Pages semi-protected edit requests