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Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/21 High Street Doha

Hi. There was no consensus to merge. The policy based responses were to delete. Please reconsider and revert your close. Onel5969 15:18, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm afraid I cannot. Two editors voted to "merge" its content to the respective target because they believed that it's not notable enough to warrant a standalone article and therefore is a valid WP:ATD. Therefore, I don't see a reason for me to revert my closure. ASTIG️🎉 _{(HAPPY 2023)} 16:00, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Deletion review for 21 High Street Doha

An editor has asked for a deletion review of 21 High Street Doha. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Onel5969 19:04, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Reconsidering the close for Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Badnaseeb (2nd nomination)

Hey, I think you made the wrong call in closing Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Badnaseeb (2nd nomination) given that keep !voters were never able to substantiate an actual case for how notability guidelines were met (as well as the prevalence of SPA IPs on the keep side). I'd ask you to reconsider your decision to NAC the discussion. _signed, Rosguill 15:49, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

I'm afraid I cannot. I know that the "keep" votes are weak, but they still have merit whatsoever. And I don't see enough consensus for it to be deleted or redirected either. Therefore, I don't see a reason for me to revert my closure. ASTIG️🎉 _{(HAPPY 2023)} 01:27, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Deletion review for Badnaseeb

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Badnaseeb. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. _signed, Rosguill 02:53, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy Fourteenth First Edit Day!

Thanks. ASTIG️🎉 _{(HAPPY 2023)} 13:06, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Hey, Superastig. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Misplaced Pages Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Chris Troutman (talk) 20:25, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Alex Belfield (4th nomination)

Hi, I've undone your close of this AfD. For the rationale, see the relist comment. The BLP1E argument came late in the discussion, but merits to be addressed. --Randykitty (talk) 15:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Superastig non-admin AfD closes. Thank you. To be clear, I have proposed to topic ban you from closing AfDs. Flatscan (talk) 05:22, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

AfD trouble

Tough luck bud. I'm kinda disappointed with the outcomes of those 2 DRVs. What you received was a double kill, make that triple kill because someone reported you to the AN. SBKSPP (talk) 23:35, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

So am I. Since the time I was scolded months ago in a previous discussion, I've been careful in picking which discussion to close and, believe me or not, those closures are really well-thought. Yet, a lot of editors seem to get triggered with some of my closures. Of almost 300 closures I've done for the past year, less than 10 of them were either overturned or relisted. I can't even believe an editor is making a big deal out of such. It's outright ridiculous. As for Badnaseeb, had anyone identified the sockpuppet IPs in the first place, then I wouldn't have touched the discussion at all. ASTIG😎🙃 18:09, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

As a closer, you are expected to disregard opinions and comments if they feel that there is strong evidence that they were not made in good faith. Such "bad faith" opinions include those being made by sock puppets, or accounts created solely for voting on the deletion discussion. That AfD had two IPs geolocating to the same place, making the same poorly-supported arguments with the same glaring English deficits, and had already been flagged as SPAs. It should not take someone else formally tagging them as socks for you to recognize they needed to be discounted (not to mention their arguments were strongly rebutted). You also closed three AfDs after participants had been blocked for socking, including one where a sock's !vote had already been struck. If you can't identify obvious bad-faith !voting you should not be closing dicussions. JoelleJay (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Regarding You also closed three AfDs after participants had been blocked for socking, including one where a sock's !vote had already been struck.:

I even discarded those "keep" votes in the deletion discussions of "list of songs...". I even know they violate WP:NOT. Sheesh. ASTIG😎🙃 13:09, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

So you've unilaterally decided that singular !votes for redirect should always override majority consensus for deletion, despite this not being policy-backed and such discussions being inherently inappropriate for NAC? JoelleJay (talk) 17:36, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

It's based on my experiences when I usually casted votes in various discussions before. Take example of these discussions:

• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Christmas Day in the_Morning (Tabernacle Choir album)
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ankhiyon Ke Jharokhon Se (Song)
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Another Sleepless Night (album)
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Dissection (album)
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/What Are We Waiting For
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Bridge over Troubled Dreams
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Tu Jaane Na
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/All the Rage (EP)
• Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Surface (Aero Chord song)

Of 1 or more "delete" votes in those discussions, I was the only one who voted for a "redirect". And all were closed as "redirect", with some of the closers mentioning WP:ATD. The closers of these respective discussions believe that it's never a mortal sin to use ATDs. Same case for this discussion, where only one voted for a "redirect". That said, those discussion indicated serve as my guide when it comes to closing various AfDs. ASTIG😎🙃 07:24, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

@Superastig I do agree with you. I believe most of your closures are right. It's just that some noms would rather send their booboos to the DRV than accept the results. But reporting you to the AN just because of the 7 challenged closures that are overturned/relisted takes their booboos to the next level. It's like an Asian parent getting mad at his kid for getting a 90-something in an exam instead of 100. LOL. SBKSPP (talk) 22:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

I can't do anything about it if they decided to take any of my closures to the DelRev. It's part of freedom. I found it a bit bothering at first, but I've been used to that for months. ASTIG😎🙃 22:27, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm kinda disappointed that the consensus came out that way. I'm sure my fellow opposers are too. Consider yourself lucky that you still have the right to vote in AfDs. SBKSPP (talk) 01:23, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, it sucks. Big time. I find it too much. I'm sure they're celebrating their victory about me being banned from closing deletion discussions. I can still cast votes on any of them, but because of that, I've lost my appetite to do such. This makes me want to take a break from AfDs. So much for a bad Valentine's day present. Sheesh. ASTIG😎🙃 06:03, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

I know you feel bad the way I felt bad when a lot of my articles were thrown into the trash. Glad I was able to reinvent my use by participating in AfDs. But I still feel dissatisfied with just that. With the recent BS happening against you, I suggest you take a break for at least a few days or a week. SBKSPP (talk) 08:54, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, but no thanks. I only take a long break whenever I'd be out for a long trip or holiday, but not whenever I get into these kinds of trouble. Life goes on.

I've created tons of articles for various scopes. An article about a radio station was sent to AfD a few years ago, which caused me to be involved in deletion discussions. Now that I decided to stay away from AfDs (for a while), aside from creating articles, I'll focus on mopping the floor. ASTIG😎🙃 16:03, 27 February 2023 (UTC)

Glad you have other uses in Misplaced Pages at least. As for me, I'll stick to voting on AfDs. Unless it's the right time for me to create another article. I don't wanna close AfDs coz I might have the same fate as a bold closer like you. Hehe. SBKSPP (talk) 08:31, 4 March 2023 (UTC)

And speaking of the Fatih Mehmet Gul DRV, I'm disappointed that it was overturned to delete. A lot of editors would rather take the shortcut than start a fresh AfD. SBKSPP (talk) 08:55, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, they should've renominated it in the 1st place rather than waste their time sending it to the DelRev. You're right that it's pointless since it's been a month since I closed it. Renomination makes more sense in a way to get rid of sockpuppetry in the first discussion. ASTIG😎🙃 10:03, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

Question

Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Superastig_non-admin_AfD_closes

Hi.

I have a question for you.

Why have you not engaged in the Administrators' noticeboard discussion concerning your AfD closures?

I now have this talk page on my watchlist.

I look forward to your response. - jc37 06:00, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

What is there for me to argue about? I've been reading their comments from time to time, but I don't think I'm required to participate in that discussion like I barely participated in the DelRevs of any of my closures. Unless I have anything worth saying there, I'll remain speechless about their comments about me. ASTIG😎🙃 16:21, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

It doesn't appear that way to other editors. They'll think you don't care about their concerns and are purposefully ignoring them, which is why they're supporting a topic ban and aren't exactly agreeing with my proposal for a warning. You need to appear there to show that you aren't ignoring their concerns. That's just my recommendation. — Nythar (💬-❄️) 07:14, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

If you say so, I'll try to think of something worthy for me to say in the discussion. I may include what I said here.

Just to let you know that some of the editors involved in the discussion are subscribed to a part of my talk page. ASTIG😎🙃 10:48, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, a consensus has been made before I had the chance to break my silence. Anyway. I'm thinking of making an appeal someday, but not for this time being. Possible in a few months. ASTIG😎🙃 13:06, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Your weakness is your reticence to explain yourself. When closing discussions, it is not good enough to be right, you have to be comprehensible by the uninitiated newcomer, and if challenged, or merely asked a question, you have to treat them seriously, humour them them if you must. SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:39, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Editing restriction

Following my closure of this discussion at WP:AN, I am informing you that you are now subject to an topic ban, restricting you from closing AfD discussions. You may still take part in those discussions as a regular contributor, but you may no longer close them. The restriction is indefinite, but may be appealed at AN no sooner than six months from today. This restriction is recorded at WP:EDRC. Thank you. Girth Summit _(blether) 12:31, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Any guide on how I can appeal that topic ban? I'm planning to do so in the near future within 6 months. Thanks in advance. ASTIG😎🙃 13:09, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

You go to WP:AN, and start a new thread entitled something like 'Appeal of my topic ban'. Link to the original discussion that led to the ban (you can simply copy the permalink that I posted in my message above), and explain why you feel that the ban should be rescinded (ideally by describing how you would act differently in future). I'd advise you to do your best to demonstrate plenty of competence in the area between now and any appeal, so that people will be well-disposed towards lifting the ban. Best Girth Summit _(blether) 13:29, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

• Just a suggestion from me... In your forthcoming appeal, simply agree to change your response when a close is challenged. Instead of arguing that you're right (which you might well be) and making the challenger go to DRV, just revert it. If a close is challenged, that means it wasn't completely uncontroversial and maybe shouldn't have been a NAC, so just undo it and leave it to an admin? It would only apply to a small number of closes, and would leave you free to continue with all the good ones. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:55, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

  You made me realize that I've taken freedom too far. Whenever anyone takes any of my closures to the DelRev, I thought that it's their problem and not mine. I didn't expect that this kind of mindset would create a negative impact on my contributions. ASTIG😎🙃 16:30, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

  I did not respond earlier, because others have well enough. But I thought I would offer a few policy links, which you may find helpful.

  First, the context that you link to freedom, is concerning. You may wish to check out WP:NOTFREESPEECH. We're all merely Wikipedians here at the service of building an encyclopedia. Nothing more.

  Second, if you are going to do "Non-admin closures", you fall under all the restrictions laid out at WP:ADMIN. Which includes WP:ADMINACCT. If you are going to close any discussion, then please understand that responding to good-faithed "requests for clarification" is a way of life. At any time, if you do not think you are comfortable responding to such a request, don't close the discussion in the first place. Yes, if you read the top of my talk page, you'll see some comments from (imnsho) some of the best closers we've ever had on Misplaced Pages. So yes, it is not uncommon that someone coming to ask you about a close is merely trying to "re-litigate" the close. But for you as a closer, the challenge is to be able to read past whatever enthusiasm, emotion, or even vitriol, and see if there is a valid point there to re-assess your close. User:Boing! said Zebedee makes good points above, but in a sense, that could also be seen as just dodging things by saying "well, I'm not an admin, so I'll revert" - which, in and of itself, could also be concerning.

  And finally, please take a moment and read User:Jc37/RfA/Criteria. The last few sentences may also help clarify.

  Anyway, I say all of this in hopes to help. That it could perhaps help you develop into being a better closer.

  (Yes, I took a lengthy tour of your edit history and closes. But no, I'm not going to comment on that experience at this time - I think we should just move forward from the past.)

  And I too am just another Wikipedian here. But if it helps, I've been involved with discussions, closures, and community consensus, off-n-on for well nigh 16 years, and have closed or help closed some of the most contentious discussions on Misplaced Pages (User:Jc37/Awards notes a few). I only mention this, so you don't think I'm merely "piling on" to the recent discussion. And yes, you not commenting there, did not do you any favours.

  Anyway, like I said, this is merely intended to help. Perhaps later, once the sting of recent events has faded a bit, this may help. (Or not, whatever the case may be : )

  In any case, I wish you well. - jc37 17:39, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks. I'll take note of what you said, including the others above. I'll make sure I keep those in mind, especially whenever I'm ready to make an appeal. ASTIG😎🙃 06:06, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

Deletion review for Fatih Mehmet Gul

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Fatih Mehmet Gul. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. _signed, Rosguill 18:28, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

February 2023

Hello @Superastig. I want to apologize for reverting your edits, I have read the MOS already, however, some things are still not yet clear to me. Is there a explicit statement in the MOS regarding the sub-section headers? If there is none, what is the reason why shouldn't put headers like "People related..."? Again, my apologies. Thank you! - jampol 08:34, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

It's based on my experience as a contributor on Philippine TV series. A few years ago, I tried applying the sub-header format in an article of a defunct TV series (I can't remember what series was that), but it was reverted by a veteran editor who told me that this kind of format for cast list is much neater and smaller per size. As for the term "People related to" and the likes, they're considered WP:FANCRUFT and not necessarily needed per WP:CASTLIST. ASTIG😎🙃 12:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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March 2023

Hello, I just want to ask is you know the new radio station in Baguio 106.5 MHz? I just observed this station two months ago and I cannot determine the stations name and format until now. As of today, the station has no bumpers. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 14:47, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Can it be heard within the entire city and nearby areas including La Trinidad? ASTIG😎🙃 13:03, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

It can be heard within the city (Baguio). In La Trinidad, I don't know. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 13:50, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Hmmm. Keep on observing the station from time to time and if you still can't spot any SID, then it may be considered a pirate. ASTIG😎🙃 07:48, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Marist School (Marikina) deletion

Hello! I was surprised to see this article got redirected to its deletion. Last time I checked, it's the only Marist school article that got deleted. Is it because it's a school in the Philippines? I digress. Anyway, I was active in editing this article in my other account years ago (now in hiatus). Though a year late already, I disagree with the decision so I might make a draft of it in my Sandbox. I can't disagree though if I can't see the argument against the deletion though. I can access books and news articles supporting its notability like I did in the other school articles I edited. Hard to find articles on the school since it gets buried along with the other "Marist". Anyway, let me know if I can still help recover the article, make a draft on a sandbox to bring it back, or just let it stay redirected to its non-existence. Peace! — Brother Allen (talk) 13:51, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, it doesn't make sense when you said that the article got redirected to its deletion. There are other types of consensus aside from "delete". I closed it as "redirect" not because it's from the Philippines (that's an invalid argument per WP:ATA), but because it fails WP:NSCHOOL based on the consensus in the deletion discussion. We follow policy-based arguments when it comes to such deletion discussion.

Since the page is currently a redirect, its history is preserved. It means anyone like you is free to scan for previous versions of the article. I suggest you read WP:NSCHOOL and WP:GNG before editing the article. If you believe that the school meets either of those said criteria, then look for secondary sources about the school. I hope this answers your concern. ASTIG😎🙃 15:42, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

It answers my concern. I'll try to do what I can do from now on. Thanks! — Brother Allen (talk) 23:50, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

AfD Issues

Hi. There are a few stations and TV channels that are up for deletion here. I know you're not in the mood to participate in AfD because of what happened a few months ago, but I hope you could spare some time to save any of them from deletion. SBKSPP (talk) 05:41, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

This is blatant canvassing. JoelleJay (talk) 16:32, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

How can that be canvassing if I distance myself from deletion discussions for a few months? Common sense, men. If I were still active in voting on deletion discussions, then he wouldn't have left me a DM in the first place. I don't think it's a mortal sin for them to pull me from "retirement" for this meantime. Even if we argue about this all day long, I don't think this is canvassing at all. ASTIG😎🙃 00:30, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Asking someone to save articles at AfD is a bright-line violation of canvassing. JoelleJay (talk) 01:47, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

In other words, you're telling me that it's a mortal sin for me to participate in deletion discussions after getting pulled out from my "break". I've stayed away from deletion discussions for a few months and never cared about a single article listed for deletion until @SBKSPP pinged me. I only picked a handful that I believe are worth being kept. It shouldn't be a big deal at all. It is never a mortal sin to be concerned about the articles listed for deletion, for God's sake.

You can hate, whine, cry, complain, throw hissy fits, say this, say that. But, my votes in the recent deletion discussions have (will have and still have) merit no matter what. ASTIG😎🙃 02:47, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

I heard a radio station article is up for deletion. Just give me some time. I'll just pick a couple more aside from that, then that's it. ASTIG😎🙃 00:27, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

May 2023

Hi, Superastig!

I'm so sorry for that because I wanted to trying added or edited the pages or articles for some Brigada News FM stations in General Santos, Olongapo and Zamboanga that are licensed to Baycomms Broadcasting Corporation without any permission, which already mentioned in that infobox for it's stations.

I hope that I decided to stay longer as a wikipedia user that I created a new one, but next time I will try my best to edit, added or fix information in each articles.

Thank you so much! 😊 Jemz2023 (talk) 09:31, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of DXNG-FM for deletion

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/DXNG-FM until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Onel5969 09:54, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of DXNG-FM for deletion

The article will be discussed at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/DXNG-FM (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Onel5969 09:55, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Onel5969, you nominated the article twice at the same time. I suggest you procedural close either of them and focus on the other. ASTIG😎🙃