Talk:CM Punk: Difference between revisions

Browse history interactively ← Previous edit Next edit →Content deleted Content addedVisual WikitextInline

Revision as of 01:38, 2 September 2023 editKyleJoan (talk \| contribs)Extended confirmed users20,864 edits →Recent changes: +; copyedits← Previous edit		Revision as of 01:45, 2 September 2023 edit undoKyleJoan (talk \| contribs)Extended confirmed users20,864 edits →Recent changes: copyeditsNext edit →
Line 110:		Line 110:
	The photo is ''not'' Punk with the world title, so how is it appropriate for the championships section to include an image of the "real world title" when the discussion above lists compelling reasons to oppose including the "title" itself?		The photo is ''not'' Punk with the world title, so how is it appropriate for the championships section to include an image of the "real world title" when the discussion above lists compelling reasons to oppose including the "title" itself?

	You wrote that ~~when re-including a photo you uploaded~~ when another (better) image from the ~~same~~ event is already ~~in the article~~. I'm sure you're aware that wrestling-related images of Punk from 2014 to 2021 are sparse ''anywhere'' because his wrestling career was almost nonexistent then. The prose chronicling this period is also short, so this "balance" rationale would be more understandable if the photo you're proposing isn't from an already-represented year and the prose was much more extensive, especially since you're not proposing to expand the prose for "balance".		You wrote that when another (better) image from the event you're trying to illustrate is already present. I'm sure you're aware that wrestling-related images of Punk from 2014 to 2021 are sparse ''anywhere'' because his wrestling career was almost nonexistent then. The prose chronicling this period is also short, so this "balance" rationale would be more understandable if the photo you're proposing isn't from an already-represented year and the prose was much more extensive, especially since you're not proposing to expand the prose for "balance".

	On the , the cited report was published around the time of Punk's ''Collision'' appearance, so even the source is fully aware that Punk did not in fact leave AEW. ''Vulture'' is generally reliable per ] and not wrestling-centric, so a mainstream source's coverage of this claim makes it even more ]. Wins get superseded by losses. Should wins be excluded? Claims surrounding Punk's impending WWE departure in 2011 were superseded by the departure not happening, so shouldn't those claims be removed as well?		On the , the cited report was published around the time of Punk's ''Collision'' appearance, so even the source is fully aware that Punk did not in fact leave AEW. ''Vulture'' is generally reliable per ] and not wrestling-centric, so a mainstream source's coverage of this claim makes it even more ]. Wins get superseded by losses. Should wins be excluded? Claims surrounding Punk's impending WWE departure in 2011 were superseded by the departure not happening, so shouldn't those claims be removed as well?

Revision as of 01:45, 2 September 2023

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the CM Punk article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Misplaced Pages? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5Auto-archiving period: 3 months

CM Punk is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Misplaced Pages community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.

This article appeared on Misplaced Pages's Main Page as Today's featured article on June 27, 2021.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
September 12, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
September 20, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
September 30, 2006	Peer review	Reviewed
October 22, 2006	Featured article candidate	Not promoted
July 31, 2007	Featured article candidate	Promoted
April 11, 2020	Featured article review	Kept
Current status: Featured article

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This article has not yet been rated on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Biography: Sports and Games

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Misplaced Pages's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography
	Sports portal This article is supported by the sports and games work group (assessed as Low-importance).

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Professional wrestling High‑importance

	CM Punk is within the scope of WikiProject Professional wrestling, an attempt to improve and standardize articles related to professional wrestling. If you would like to participate, you can edit the article attached to this page, visit the project to-do page, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and contribute to discussions.Professional wrestlingWikipedia:WikiProject Professional wrestlingTemplate:WikiProject Professional wrestlingProfessional wrestling
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Mixed martial arts

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Mixed martial arts, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of mixed martial arts concepts, events, and biographies on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Mixed martial artsWikipedia:WikiProject Mixed martial artsTemplate:WikiProject Mixed martial artsmixed martial arts

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Chicago Low‑importance

	Chicago portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Chicago, which aims to improve all articles or pages related to Chicago or the Chicago metropolitan area.ChicagoWikipedia:WikiProject ChicagoTemplate:WikiProject ChicagoChicago
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Illinois Low‑importance

	Illinois portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Illinois, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Illinois on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IllinoisWikipedia:WikiProject IllinoisTemplate:WikiProject IllinoisWikiProject Illinois
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

United States Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.

United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article has been selected for use on the United States portal.

This professional wrestling article is a frequent target for editors to add a week-by-week synopsis of storyline events, unconfirmed information, rumors, and other content inappropriate to an encyclopedic article. Please make sure to familiarize yourself with what Misplaced Pages is not, and consider whether your additions to this article will serve to make the article larger and harder to edit for style, clarity, and grammar.

This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report. The week in which this happened:

December 7 to 13, 2014 (15th)

Tip: Anchors are case-sensitive in most browsers.

This article links to one or more target anchors that no longer exist.

] Anchor List of WWE tournaments#WWE Intercontinental Championship links to a specific web page: WWE Intercontinental Championship.

Please help fix the broken anchors. You can remove this template after fixing the problems. | Reporting errors

Edit request on 19 June 2012

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Adding his appearance on Jimmy Fallon (18th June 2012) and how it is his first appearance on any kind of talk show.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.

"Relationship" Rumors / Unsubstantiated / Possibly Fabricated /Pointless Crap / Non-Facts

While it appears that they have some kind of friendship, neither has ever claimed that it was more than that. Also Matt Hardy's comment was that they were not in a relationship not that they had been but it is now over. Whoever wrote this article is greatly stretching the source to say something it doesn't. Also the sun is by no means a reliable source. It's a gossip site. TMZ is more reliable. I work for the AP. We view the sun as a punch line.

Shannon and Tracy are unsubstantiated rumors and should be removed from the article. Beth has claimed that Punk was joking with the interviewer. She claims that she and Punk never dated and she was already with Edge at the time of the alleged relationship. It has already been removed from her Misplaced Pages page.

Glad to see the Beth part removed, but I think you might have stopped halfway. Neither Punk nor Lita have ever confirmed to be more than friends. Same can be said for Matt Hardy.

Also, Punk has always denied dating women he has worked with. More editing is required. This is an article for verifiable information only.

Not sure why these changes have not been made yet. Even if all of these supposed relationships, other than AJ of course, were real, they do not merit a mention in the article as they are insignificant.

Interim Champion

Says interim champion will be crowned at Forbidden Door but should say that Jon Moxley won the interim championship at Forbidden Door 2600:2B00:8238:F800:A464:B8F5:BFFE:2D79 (talk) 03:46, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Fixed Thanks — Czello 10:41, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Punk's "Legacy"

Should there be anything added to legacy about the negative aspect of his effect in pro wrestling? There is a growing sentiment that his grudge holding and inability to mend fences with people he doesn't like or who he views have wronged him, along with the child-like response to a lot of situations that don't go his way are not tainting, but definitely colouring his legacy as a pro wrestler. Vince193 (talk) 17:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Are there any sources that have widely reported this sentiment? — Czello 17:24, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Real World Title?

Should the “Real World Championship” be added to his title list? It’s basically the same concept as the FTW Championship and that gets listed for everyone in their championships section BadGirlRyleigh (talk) 04:50, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

No, for two reasons. First, unlike the FTW title, AEW don't list it on their site - it has even less recognition than the FTW title. Secondly, it wouldn't count as a separate title reign - Punk is claiming it's a continuation of his 2nd title run. — Czello 17:04, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Recent changes

McPhail, will you please discuss future reversions rather than keep reverting and providing insufficient explanations?

The photo referenced here is not Punk with the world title, so how is it appropriate for the championships section to include an image of the "real world title" when the discussion above lists compelling reasons to oppose including the "title" itself?

You wrote that the article needs "images of Punk post-2014" for "balance" when another (better) image from the event you're trying to illustrate is already present. I'm sure you're aware that wrestling-related images of Punk from 2014 to 2021 are sparse anywhere because his wrestling career was almost nonexistent then. The prose chronicling this period is also short, so this "balance" rationale would be more understandable if the photo you're proposing isn't from an already-represented year and the prose was much more extensive, especially since you're not proposing to expand the prose for "balance".

On the removal of a "speculative assertion", the cited report was published around the time of Punk's Collision appearance, so even the source is fully aware that Punk did not in fact leave AEW. Vulture is generally reliable per WP:RSP and not wrestling-centric, so a mainstream source's coverage of this claim makes it even more due. Wins get superseded by losses. Should wins be excluded? Claims surrounding Punk's impending WWE departure in 2011 were superseded by the departure not happening, so shouldn't those claims be removed as well?

I look forward to discussing further should you choose to revert. Thanks. KyleJoan 01:38, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

Categories: