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	== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 August 2023 ==
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	Please change the end of the "History" section to ''add'' the following section, taken ''verbatim'' from the extended-confirmed-protected Republic of Artsakh article:
	=== Blockade (2022–present) ===
	{{Main articles\|Blockade of the Republic of Artsakh (2022–present)}}

	In December 2022, Azerbaijanis claiming to be environmental activists blocked the Lachin corridor, the sole road connecting Nagorno-Karabakh to Armenia and the outside world.<ref name="BBC2">{{Cite news \|title=Азербайджанские "активисты" блокируют дорогу из Карабаха в Армению. Одновременно в Карабахе пропал газ \|language=ru \|trans-title=Azerbaijani "activists" are blocking the road from Karabakh to Armenia. At the same time, gas disappeared in Karabakh \|work=BBC News Русская Служба \|url=https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-63975080}}</ref> On 23 April 2023, Azerbaijani forces installed a checkpoint on the Lachin corridor.<ref name=":129">{{Cite web \|last=Loe \|first=Catherine \|date=2023-04-27 \|title=Azerbaijan sets up checkpoints on the Lachin corridor \|url=https://www.eiu.com/n/azerbaijan-sets-up-checkpoints-on-the-lachin-corridor/ \|access-date=2023-05-03 \|website=Economist Intelligence Unit \|language=en-GB \|quote=The move has increased the blockade of Nagorny Karabakh...A checkpoint on the border would give Azerbaijan the ability to stop any cars travelling between Armenia and Nagorny Karabakh.}}</ref> The blockade has led to a humanitarian crisis for the population in Artsakh; imports of essential goods have been blocked, as well as humanitarian convoys of the Red Cross and the Russian peacekeepers, trapping the 120,000 residents of the region.<ref>{{Cite web \|last=Hauer \|first=Neil \|date=2023-07-31 \|title=Karabakh blockade reaches critical point as food supplies run low \|url=https://www.intellinews.com/karabakh-blockade-reaches-critical-point-as-food-supplies-run-low-286173/ \|access-date=2023-08-01 \|website=www.intellinews.com \|language=en \|quote=Occasional ICRC and Russian traffic continued to pass until June 15, at which point Azerbaijan halted all humanitarian deliveries. No food, medicine or fuel has entered Nagorno-Karabakh since.}}</ref><ref name=":62">{{Cite web \|last=Gavin \|first=Gabriel \|date=Dec 19, 2022 \|title=Supplies begin to run low as Nagorno-Karabakh blockade continues \|url=https://eurasianet.org/supplies-begin-to-run-low-as-nagorno-karabakh-blockade-continues \|access-date=2022-12-22 \|website=eurasianet.org \|language=en}}</ref><ref name=":310">{{Cite web \|last=Kitachayev \|first=Bashir \|date=16 December 2022 \|title=Azerbaijani roadblock cuts tens of thousands off from food, fuel and medicine \|url=https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/odr/nagorno-karabakh-azerbaijan-armenia-roadblock/ \|access-date=21 December 2022 \|website=]}}</ref><ref name=":97">{{Cite web \|date=2023-05-22 \|title=New Troubles in Nagorno-Karabakh: Understanding the Lachin Corridor Crisis \|url=https://www.crisisgroup.org/europe-central-asia/caucasus/nagorno-karabakh-conflict/new-troubles-nagorno-karabakh-understanding-lachin-corridor-crisis \|access-date=2023-05-23 \|website=www.crisisgroup.org \|language=en \|quote=While travellers were already few due to the blockade, the ICRC reports that its ability to get people across has been curtailed , leaving only the Russian peacekeepers to facilitate trips to Armenia for medical care.}}</ref><ref name=":134">{{Cite web \|date=2023-05-31 \|title=June Alerts and May Trends 2023 \|url=https://www.crisisgroup.org/crisiswatch/june-alerts-and-may-trends-2023 \|access-date=2023-06-19 \|website=www.crisisgroup.org \|language=en \|quote=Checkpoint on Lachin corridor faced fierce opposition amid humanitarian crisis....Azerbaijani military consolidated blockade, however, leading to even fewer crossings and reduced transportation of goods.}}</ref> Limited traffic had been conducted by Russian peacekeepers and the ] to transport patients in need of medical care and provide humanitarian supplies.<ref name="BlackoutsRationing">{{cite news \|last=Shahverdyan \|first=Lilit \|date=12 January 2023 \|title=Blackouts and food rationing as Karabakh blockade enters second month \|language=en \|work=Eurasianet \|url=https://eurasianet.org/blackouts-and-food-rationing-as-karabakh-blockade-enters-second-month \|access-date=17 January 2023 \|quote=But the supplies are meager compared to the pre-blockade delivery of 12,000 tons of goods monthly, and barely meet the needs of the local population, which Armenian sources estimate at around 120,000.}}</ref><ref name=":22">{{cite news \|date=17 January 2023 \|title=Nagorno-Karabakh reports gas cut for second time since start of blockade \|work=OC Media \|url=https://oc-media.org/nagorno-karabakh-reports-gas-cut-for-second-time-since-start-of-blockade/ \|access-date=18 January 2023}}</ref> However, since 15 June 2023, Azerbaijan has intensified the blockade, blocking all passage of food, fuel, and medicine from the Red Cross and the Russian peacekeepers through the Lachin corridor.<ref name=":175">{{Cite web \|date=2023-06-20 \|title=Nagorno-Karabakh again faces shortages as Azerbaijan closes Lachin Corridor \|url=https://oc-media.org/nagorno-karabakh-again-faces-shortages-as-azerbaijan-closes-lachin-corridor/ \|access-date=2023-07-14 \|website=OC Media \|language=en-US}}</ref><ref name=":176">{{Cite web \|title=Food shortages and fear as peacekeepers refused entry to Nagorno-Karabakh \|url=https://oc-media.org/features/food-shortages-and-fear-as-peacekeepers-refused-entry-to-nagorno-karabakh/ \|access-date=2023-07-14 \|website=OC Media \|language=en-US}}</ref><ref name=":178">{{Cite web \|date=2023-07-31 \|title=Karabakh blockade reaches critical point as food supplies run low \|url=https://www.intellinews.com/karabakh-blockade-reaches-critical-point-as-food-supplies-run-low-286173/ \|access-date=2023-08-01 \|website=www.intellinews.com \|language=en}}</ref> ] (]) 16:33, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

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"also referred to as Artsakh by Armenians"

I removed this. It was added in early 2023. It's not even an English usage. Beshogur (talk) 16:45, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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this article needs editing for grammar. Some of the sentences are far too long, with so many diversions and side tracks that they are unreadable. 142.163.195.205 (talk) 02:39, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

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Change the misspelling of “betweeen” to “between” in the first paragraph 2601:19C:4380:52B0:48FF:8D02:6906:976A (talk) 22:59, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Done ARandomName123 (talk) 02:22, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

whoops, that seems like my bad.

Sorry! Remsense (talk) 03:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Disputed status of Nagorno-Karabakh

I want to raise a question on the status of the territory. Why is Nagorno-Karabakh still considered a disputed territory?

1. The UN recognizes it as a sovereign part of Azerbaijan
2. Armenia officially recognizes it as a sovereign part of Azerbaijan
3. The separatist government of the Republic of Artsakh dissolved itself by the official decree
4. There is no de-facto presence of the separatist government in the region and the central government of Azerbaijan controls the entire territory since the end of September 2023.

Isn't it the right time to adjust the wording of the article accordingly? KHE'O (talk) 20:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

The government of the RoA has not technically dissolved itself yet, it declared that it would dissolve by Jan 1 2024. It's not known yet exactly how many Armenians are left in NK (last credible report stated 50-1,000 but that's probably different now). It may be time to update the status though, I agree. Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 21:03, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Point of order but do we know that Armenia recognizes it as part of Azerbaijan? They have no formal relations, so absent an affirmative statement, we can't assume they recognize anything about Azerbaijan. --Golbez (talk) 21:24, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

This is also true. They've never formally recognized the Artsakh government, but de facto they have for a long time (given how much military aid they've provided, the blurring of lines between governments via politicians holding office in both governments, etc). I think we need to wait for more verified information before definitively changing the status to avoid WP:OR. Sawyer-mcdonell (talk) 21:28, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, not recognizing Artsakh over the area is not the same as recognizing Azerbaijan over the area. --Golbez (talk) 22:21, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Reliable sources still describe it as disputed. TagaworShah (talk) 21:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Reliable sources can be out of date, and we don't have to parrot them when that can be demonstrated. --Golbez (talk) 22:22, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

In fact, the prime minister of Armenia officially recognized Azerbaijan's sovereignty over 86,600 sq km of territory which includes Nagorno-Karabakh in the Prague summit in October 2022 and the Brussels summit in May 2023. He even later at his speech at the Armenian parliament explicitly stated that the recognized territory of Azerbaijan includes Nagorno-Karabakh. KHE'O (talk) 20:35, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

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