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	== "Relationship" Rumors / Unsubstantiated / Possibly Fabricated /Pointless Crap / Non-Facts ==		== "Relationship" Rumors / Unsubstantiated / Possibly Fabricated /Pointless Crap / Non-Facts ==

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Adding his appearance on Jimmy Fallon (18th June 2012) and how it is his first appearance on any kind of talk show.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Bold textcmpunk around in the usa not iceland year up yet braunstrouman humm as this autaa be great,,,585deadlift third place fithplace body bpose radyladivide did want thae dick pose spiedo here boy trianglr before chest i after did it five platetse oyther dick did four side wester racket leg push dwaye does six i ordered at anytime fitness wrong black leg sleg first choise others couldnt fing

"Relationship" Rumors / Unsubstantiated / Possibly Fabricated /Pointless Crap / Non-Facts

While it appears that they have some kind of friendship, neither has ever claimed that it was more than that. Also Matt Hardy's comment was that they were not in a relationship not that they had been but it is now over. Whoever wrote this article is greatly stretching the source to say something it doesn't. Also the sun is by no means a reliable source. It's a gossip site. TMZ is more reliable. I work for the AP. We view the sun as a punch line.

Shannon and Tracy are unsubstantiated rumors and should be removed from the article. Beth has claimed that Punk was joking with the interviewer. She claims that she and Punk never dated and she was already with Edge at the time of the alleged relationship. It has already been removed from her Misplaced Pages page.

Glad to see the Beth part removed, but I think you might have stopped halfway. Neither Punk nor Lita have ever confirmed to be more than friends. Same can be said for Matt Hardy.

Also, Punk has always denied dating women he has worked with. More editing is required. This is an article for verifiable information only.

Not sure why these changes have not been made yet. Even if all of these supposed relationships, other than AJ of course, were real, they do not merit a mention in the article as they are insignificant.

Interim Champion

Says interim champion will be crowned at Forbidden Door but should say that Jon Moxley won the interim championship at Forbidden Door 2600:2B00:8238:F800:A464:B8F5:BFFE:2D79 (talk) 03:46, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Fixed Thanks — Czello 10:41, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Punk's "Legacy"

Should there be anything added to legacy about the negative aspect of his effect in pro wrestling? There is a growing sentiment that his grudge holding and inability to mend fences with people he doesn't like or who he views have wronged him, along with the child-like response to a lot of situations that don't go his way are not tainting, but definitely colouring his legacy as a pro wrestler. Vince193 (talk) 17:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Are there any sources that have widely reported this sentiment? — Czello 17:24, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Real World Title?

Should the “Real World Championship” be added to his title list? It’s basically the same concept as the FTW Championship and that gets listed for everyone in their championships section BadGirlRyleigh (talk) 04:50, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

No, for two reasons. First, unlike the FTW title, AEW don't list it on their site - it has even less recognition than the FTW title. Secondly, it wouldn't count as a separate title reign - Punk is claiming it's a continuation of his 2nd title run. — Czello 17:04, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Recent changes

McPhail, will you please discuss future reversions rather than keep reverting and providing insufficient explanations?

The photo referenced here is not of Punk with the world title, so it is inappropriate for the championships section to include an image of the "real world title" when the discussion above lists compelling reasons to oppose including the "title" itself.

The rationale that more "images of Punk post-2014" are needed for "balance" would have been more convincing had the proposed photo helped illustrate the 2015–2022 sections. While it's understandable to want to include a file you uploaded, an additional image from an August 2023 event undermines any "balance" rationale because the article would have too many photos from August 2023.

On "speculative assertion", the cited report was published around the time of Punk's Collision debut, so even the source is fully aware that he did not in fact leave AEW. Verifiability via Vulture (mainstream, reliable per WP:RSP, and not wrestling-centric) makes the claim even more due. Title wins get superseded by losses. Claims surrounding Punk's impending WWE departure in 2011 were superseded by the departure not happening. Should the wins and departure be removed? KyleJoan 03:07, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

@KyleJoan: - please refer to WP:OWNERSHIP. To prevent an edit war, I will ask for views from WP:PW on the points you are contesting. McPhail (talk) 11:07, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
You know what's more effective than throwing out policies without explaining how they're relevant? Explaining how they're relevant. If not, I could say the same thing to you. Please refer to WP:OWNERSHIP. Now what? KyleJoan 12:15, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

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