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Etymology 13,425 13,425
History 3,401 11,761
Early 21st century 8,360 8,360
Social and political theory 5,422 27,539
Criticism of capitalism 6,981 6,981
Marxism 4,443 4,443
Role of the state 3,731 3,731
Utopian versus scientific 2,354 2,354
Reform versus revolution 4,608 4,608
Culture 7,093 7,093
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Planned economy 4,834 4,834
Self-managed economy 9,318 9,318
State-directed economy 2,526 2,526
Market socialism 8,552 8,552
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Democratic socialism and social democracy 13,254 13,254
Ethical and liberal socialism 3,556 3,556
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Large swaths of the 20th century section are about Communism, not Socialism

They're related enough to be worth mentioning, but devoting multiple entire paragraphs to Communism, with no sources that mention socialism at all, is WP:SYNTH. It also seems as though much of this was copy-pasted from Communism (where it belongs!) --Aquillion (talk) 23:06, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Yep, this copy-pasting across the two articles took place in June and July 2023. –Vipz (talk) 22:30, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Clear usage of slanted argumentation in supposed factual description

Under the section on planned economy it is written "State socialism is unfeasible in this view because information cannot be aggregated by a central body and effectively used to formulate a plan for an entire economy, because doing so would result in distorted or absent price signals" This is a clearly a subjective opinion of the writer which if anything should be in criticisms of socialism. Nowhere is it mentioned either that 21th century computing, AI and statistics can be used to potentially predict with a high degree of probability the consumption of a population and required production. Midflyer (talk) 17:18, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Also Socialism is more of an economical theory than a political ideology. The modern invention of categorising socialism under the political umbrella terms such as "left-wing" ideologies is a modern invention produced by mostly non academic slanted sources and as a product of modern right-leaning propaganda. The definition of Socialism is simply: 'workers controlling the means of production' which is a purely economical definition and not a political ideological one. whilst socialism obviously branches off and can have progressive social elements social similar to left-leaning ideologies, it is important to make the distinction as the economical mode of function should be the focus point of socialism. Midflyer (talk) 18:37, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Difference between Socialism and Communism

Reading the communist manifesto, their IS a distinction, and the terms weren't use interchangeably as the the page suggests.

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"Thus, Socialism was, in 1847, a middle-class movement, Communism a working class movement. Socialism was, on the Continent at least, "respectable"; Communism was the very opposite. And as our notion, from the very beginning, was that "the emancipation of the working class must be the act of the working class itself," there could be no doubt as to which of the two names we must take. Moreover, we have, ever since, been far from repudiating it."

Page 8 preface https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf Frederick Engels January 30, 1888, London 16:35, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

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 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 13:37, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

Too many links

MOS:SEAOFBLUE and MOS:OVERLINK toobigtokale (talk) 20:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC) 

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