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:::::@] ] has some relevant info. ] (] | ]) 15:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::@] ] has some relevant info. ] (] | ]) 15:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
:Reverted it, I don't think an IP address with a history of making ] twice on this talk page has any right to make sound judgement on this. ] 17:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
:Reverted it, I don't think an IP address with a history of making ] twice on this talk page has any right to make sound judgement on this. ] 17:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
::I don't think Turkophobes like Borgenland has right to talk about this attack either. ] (]) 18:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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If we're looking for a quick solution then this would be it, but I would venture to guess that further discussion would find that "2024 Turkish Aerospace Industries headquarters attack" is a more appropriate title than "2024 Ankara attack" given that the attack took place in Kahramankazan, not Ankara.Or maybe both articles should be merged into a new article with a whole different title, who knows. RachelTensions (talk) 17:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
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I don't see a source as of yet that says the terrorist group involved was Syrian. This edit was made twice and changed to SDF specifically, but I'm not sure this is being reported in the cited sources. Adding as a discussion since someone may just be seeing a more up to date version than me. Darbyshmr (talk) 15:30, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Possible Link to recent talks/negotiations with PKK
There was recently a speech by Bahceli regarding negotiations with the PKK's founder Ocalan to disband the group in Turkey. Could potentially be related to those talks, with attempts to derail the talks. Midgetman433 (talk) 19:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Turkey is already claiming that PKK did it, but it’s equally likely it was Russia or supporters of the opposition cleric who died in exile yesterday. CaptainAhab1841 (talk) 19:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Gülen movement does not have such uniforms, they (in their last attack, 15 July Mutiny) wore civilian clothes and military uniforms instead.
There is no record of Russia doing false flag attacks in Turkey in such way since the ASALA stopped operations in 1991.
The only active terror organisation with such tactics (wearing uniforms, using AK-style weapons, suicide bombing and targeting civilians) in Turkey are PKK, DHKPC and TAK as far as I know.
Since when it is standard policy to define an armed attack as "terrorist attack" without attributing it to a party labeling it as such? Isn't this a clear and cut POV violation? Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 21:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Depends, but in this case the sourcing doesn't seem strong enough for an unqualified label. I've updated the lead and infobox accordingly. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:35, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Killing civilians is not terrorism? Oh that's right, according to you Turkophobes, it's not terrorism when it happens to Turks. But it would be terrorism if this attack was carried out against Greeks, Armenians or Israelis. 188.119.21.26 (talk) 22:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
It's not about what we think is terrorism, but about what reliable sources state is terrorism. RS have reported that Turkey (and many of its allies) considers this terrorism, but generally are not clearly stating that it is terrorism. Our job is to take a neutral point of view here; this does not mean we think the attack was justified or acceptable. Elli (talk | contribs) 23:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
That's why I was looking for a guideline about this. To me "terrorism" is a judgement label, not a factual description of events, and it should *always* be attributed to a party as with every other specific judgement that we summarise. Even the Hamas attacks of last year don't seem to be labeled as "terrorism" without attribution. Cinemaandpolitics (talk) 11:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
Reverted it, I don't think an IP address with a history of making WP:NPA twice on this talk page has any right to make sound judgement on this. Borgenland17:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
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Y Merger complete. Andre Farfan (talk) 23:59, 23 October 2024 (UTC)