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No author is granted such long quotes, or it is misleading to do so. This looks like a PR job (unintentional no doubt). I still think the Danforth quotes are far too extensive and even though some quotes are pertinent, his 'neutrality' has been seriously disputed. I do not suggest removing but clearly summarising. I suggest replacing it with extracts from the Nimitz summary. Politis 15:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Politis do you have a link to that? (regardless of Danforth summarization/removal/leaving-as-is). NikoSilver 15:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I only found it in Greek translation: at Eleftherotypia, 13/04/2005. See what you make of it. Does any have the original text? If any Slav Macedonian friends want the gist of it, let me know; or perhaps you have a Makedonski version? Politis 15:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

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The quote is totally out of place, especially for a featured article, for the following reasons:

1. Biased. Presents "the Balkans" as being exotic, wild, driven by ancient primal forces. Too much history: what does that even mean?
2. It is not uncontroversial. In 5 seconds I found a paper contesting the sentiment behind it.
3. Therefore, the reason for this polyonymy, heteronymy and confusion can be summarised in Winston Churchill's words: "The Balkan region has a tendency to produce more history than it can consume."'

What information does this convey? "The Balkans have a complicated history, and it's complicated due to the complicated history of the Balkans"? It is tautological and banal.

On the other hand, I cannot see any reason for it to be included, so I'm taking it out until someone makes an argument for the status quo, beyond accusing me of vandalism (aka editing).--Methodius 16:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

It had a questionmark at the end ;) --Laveol 16:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, implying :/--Methodius 16:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

As I your main reason is that the quote shows the Balkans in an "exotic, wild, driven by ancient primal forces". Well, I'm a Balkan native and I think the quote is spot on. Even the controversy you are trying to create is just another example of what this quote aims. I'm reverting--Laveol 18:20, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Well then I feel sorry for you I guess. Some of us realise that Balkan problems have concrete causes, nothing to do with "too much history" or other banal meaningless concepts. I am not trying to create controversy, but to have a neutral article. Anyway, it doesn't matter what you think, the article should not be presenting as a given something which is not uncontroversial and not relevant.--Methodius 19:04, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

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