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:::And the Danish version "Med lov skal land bygges" was the first words of the Code of Jutland written by King Valdemar the Victorious in 1241. In the Icelandic case, the words are probably from ''Frostatingslova'' which is one of the oldest laws in Norway. Some rules are believed to be from the 900's, but the law itself is probably from Magnus the Good (1035-1047). ] <sup>] / ]</sup> 23:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC) :::And the Danish version "Med lov skal land bygges" was the first words of the Code of Jutland written by King Valdemar the Victorious in 1241. In the Icelandic case, the words are probably from ''Frostatingslova'' which is one of the oldest laws in Norway. Some rules are believed to be from the 900's, but the law itself is probably from Magnus the Good (1035-1047). ] <sup>] / ]</sup> 23:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Why do we think that "Með lögum skal land byggja" is the motto of the Icelandic state. I don't think that it is true. ] 19:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)


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Population Census and estimates?

Why does the article Info box claim that censuses are still made in Iceland even though they and the estimates are long made obsolete as a result of the kennitölu system and the Þjóðskrá? If its a technical problem with the box it should be fixed nonetheless as its claiming absolote incorrectness. --130.208.189.147 00:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)


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Is it just me or are all the pictures in this article about its geography? Let's get more pictures of cities, people, etc.


C'mon

//This page is about the country Republic of Iceland. For the chain of supermarkets in the United Kingdom and Ireland, see Iceland (supermarket).//

Is this some kind of joke? 172.141.116.152 20:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Nope, it's legitimate. Killfest2—Daniel.Bryant 07:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Not a Good Article

I failed Iceland as a GA due to the fact that there are no references in the "culture" section, in addition to few references throughout the article. (Working on it) Also, there is a lengthy Miscellany section which in my opinion violates section 3B of the good article criteria. (To be cleaned up) Some P. Erson 14:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Italics by me. Daniel.Bryant 09:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Delete Miscellany section?

Let's move it here. The dishelved facts ruin the page. Agree?

lots of issues | leave me a message 04:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I find some of the facts interesting, and propose to let them be until they are included other places in the article. Mr. Carpenter 07:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
User:Biekko was kind enough to do it for us - thanks! Daniel.Bryant 11:49, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Religion

The statement: "Most Icelanders are either very liberal in their religious beliefs or uninterested in religious matters altogether, and predominantly do not attend church regularly or even at all." does not seem to be backed up by the reference cited. There is no "demographics" section at the supplied link.

Matt T. 198.203.192.166 19:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Climate

I'm curious about the climate of Iceland. Is it strange there's no mention of this? Renfield 16:41, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

I am curious myself about the climate. I've heard it is relatively moderate considering its proximaty to the Arctic. Why is their nary a mention of the climate ? Jcam 00:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Because neither of you has bothered to research it elseware and add it to the article. --Sindri 12:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Good point- and I probably will get around to that, as well as most of the US state articles and many other nations. But just an observation... why is it that so many articles on nations/states/areas don't bother to mention this ? Jcam 15:07, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Because interest in climate implies that you go outdoors, and wikipedia editors never leave their keyboards? - DavidWBrooks 18:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Climate section added. Various statistics from the Icelandic Meteorology Office are the source of this. --Bjarki 00:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Nice addition; not too long, not too vague. - DavidWBrooks 11:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

History

Could someone add a history section (I was looking for Iceland's role in WWII). This seems to be the only section missing in this article about a country.--72.75.113.204 01:39, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

It depends how long you want the history to go back for. As far as I could tell, I didn't think Iceland had any involvement in any proper war. Correct me if I am wrong there. Or you could mention the cod war... 85.12.80.128 11:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I have lived i Iceland for some two years now and I have heard the stories about some allay ships hiding from german in Iceladic fjords. Iceladers told me the story but I couldn´t find anything concrete about the subject. If Bjarky can find something out... marijica 12:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Europe of North America

In the article Age of Consent there is a map that shows Iceland with the same color as North America. Is there an issue with what continent Iceland belongs? --Gbleem 12:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

The map dividing countries by continents has it the same color as Europe. The top map colors countries by the legal age of consent, not geography. Geographically it could belong to either (the tectonic plate border goes right through it); historically it's European. - DavidWBrooks 12:12, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
It's worse than that. I was confusing Iceland and Greenland. I have shingles and I think it is affecting my brain. --Gbleem 12:23, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

pronunciation of Lyveldid Island

I've noticed that the pronunciation of Lýveldið Ísland doesn't match the orthography, because d is always a sound, never a sound, because it doesn't exist in Icelandic, so can somebody explain what's happening here?

RJL 17:47, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Corrected. I also removed the markers under the ð's which are not really needed. Stefán 19:52, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Volcanic island nation?

Hmmm.. In my mind, "Volcanic island nation" evaluates to (volcanic (island nation)), not ((volcanic island) nation), and thus, I believe that the attempt to compress that information into one sentence, though brave, has to be abandoned. This is a very minor issue, of course, and maybe that's why I didn't modify it. Jørgen 21:45, 27 November 2006 (UTC)


Proposed WikiProject

It strikes me that the only way articles relating to Iceland are ever going to get any real attention and improvement is if it has its own project, as none of the continent or multi-country projects will necessarily think of including Iceland to any great degree. On that basis, there is a new proposed project on the Proposed WikiProjects page dealing with Iceland. Any parties interested in joining should add their names to the list, so that we can see if there actually is enough interest in such a project to make it viable. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I can't find Iceland on the Proposed WikiProjects page. Has it been created or is it located at Portal:Iceland instead? Think outside the box 13:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Found it at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Iceland. Guess I didn't look properly the first time... Think outside the box 13:14, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Television

The Television page claims that television broadcast is suspended in Iceland on Thursdays and in July. If this is true, this is curious and probably unique and should certainly be mentioned here somewhere, in regards to culture I presume. --Zachbe 15:14, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

That's how it was before 1984 like it says in the television article. --Bjarki 19:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

External links needs trimming

This article seems to have collected a very large number of external links. It might be an idea if somebody went through them checking how many of them are actually needed. At the moment, the list is just too long.

For the time being, I've moved the latest addition here. They concern immigration to Iceland.


--Valentinian 00:32, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Any Icelandic user?

I just wanted to know if there is any Icelandi user who might want to chat with me. I am interested in the language and have some questions. If there is anyone, please leave me a message. --Dexter prog 14:57, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

i am icelandic so i can answer almost all questions a involving Iceland and the language as long as they are not plan stubbed - andri12

No offense, but I'm puzzled by those last two words: are they supposed to be "plain stupid"? (My Icelandic doesn't go beyond "tak", so I'm not criticizing anybody who's bilingual) - DavidWBrooks 22:05, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
Just thought I'd jump in here; I've been trying to learn some Icelandic reciently but its really hard. I changed the my preferences language box to IS so some of the regular wiki links converted to the language. I now know: talk, edit, recient changes and log out. Think outside the box 13:05, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Animal and vegetal life, please.

Hello! Could someone add this, please, also the foreing species, grasses and invertebrates. Perhaps for someone in Iceland is not intersting, but is very few know in Europe. In European Guides few times appear Iceland. Anselmocisneros 14:15, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I vote for this too. Think outside the box 13:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
I've added this under the imaginitively named section, Animal and Plant life Think outside the box 13:01, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Shorter Version?

It would be good if we could get a version a little more condensed - It takes too long to print. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.196.206.204 (talk) 22:28, 6 February 2007 (UTC).

At what cost to the value of content? Think outside the box 12:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Location maps available for infoboxes of European countries

On the WikiProject Countries talk page, the section Location Maps for European countries had shown new maps created by David Liuzzo, that are available for the countries of the European continent, and for countries of the European Union exist in two versions. From November 16, 2006 till January 31, 2007, a poll had tried to find a consensus for usage of 'old' or of which and where 'new' version maps. Please note that since January 1, 2007 all new maps became updated by David Liuzzo (including a world locator, enlarged cut-out for small countries) and as of February 4, 2007 the restricted licence that had jeopardized their availability on Wikimedia Commons, became more free. At its closing, 25 people had spoken in favor of either of the two presented usages of new versions but neither version had reached a consensus (12 and 13), and 18 had preferred old maps.
As this outcome cannot justify reverting of new maps that had become used for some countries, seconds before February 5, 2007 a survey started that will be closed soon at February 20, 2007 23:59:59. It should establish two things: Please read the discussion (also in other sections α, β, γ, δ, ε, ζ, η, θ) and in particular the arguments offered by the forementioned poll, while realizing some comments to have been made prior to updating the maps, and all prior to modifying the licences, before carefully reading the presentation of the currently open survey. You are invited to only then finally make up your mind and vote for only one option.
There mustnot be 'oppose' votes; if none of the options would be appreciated, you could vote for the option you might with some effort find least difficult to live with - rather like elections only allowing to vote for one of several candidates. Obviously, you are most welcome to leave a brief argumentation with your vote. Kind regards. — SomeHuman 19 Feb2007 00:25 (UTC)

Translation of the motto

What does the motto "Með lögum skal land byggja" mean in English? It would be nice to add this to the infobox. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.127.219.216 (talk) 15:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC).

"Með lögum skal land byggja" means in direct translation "With laws the land shall be built". It is as far as I know the motto of the Icelandic Police, not the government or nation and has been added to the infobox as vandalism. I'll remove it right after I submit this comment. --Sindri 16:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I can't help but notice that the motto now reads "In Cod We Trust." --Stormy 23:09, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

No longer! (how embarrassing, if mildly humorous) - DavidWBrooks 23:45, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
"Með lögum skal land byggja" is also the adopted motto of the Shetlands. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 90.241.157.246 (talk) 23:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC).
And the Danish version "Med lov skal land bygges" was the first words of the Code of Jutland written by King Valdemar the Victorious in 1241. In the Icelandic case, the words are probably from Frostatingslova which is one of the oldest laws in Norway. Some rules are believed to be from the 900's, but the law itself is probably from Magnus the Good (1035-1047). Valentinian 23:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Why do we think that "Með lögum skal land byggja" is the motto of the Icelandic state. I don't think that it is true. Stefán 19:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Icelandic only de facto ?

The sidebar says Icelandic is the de facto official language, implying that that is not legally true, but the article on Icelandic states it is coded into law. Which is it?

Icelandic is not explicitly declared an official language in the constitution, I don't think anyone considers it necessary since Icelandic is quite obviously the official language of Iceland by custom. Icelandic is however mentioned through Icelandic law, several statutes seem to assume the language's official status and others have the explicit goal of "enhancing and supporting the Icelandic language". I think it is correct to say that Icelandic is de facto the official language but it is not wrong either to say it is simply the official language, a de facto official language is still an official language and no less so than a de jure official language. --Bjarki 17:59, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't see any reason why we should accept the unofficial demand that an official language must be specified in a constitution. In Denmark, it is required by law that all members of a jury must be able to speak Danish fluently, and the Danish language is also explicitly mentioned in the law about schools. Legislation also specifies that one can only expect to receive official communication with the state in Danish. This makes it "official" enough for me. Given the common history of our two countries, it would be my guess that Iceland had similar traditions. Valentinian 00:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Valentinian, I couldn't agree more wit you. It is absurd to say if is not in the constitution, it is not official. If we accept this way of thinking most European countries woouldn't have an official language, which is not true. This demand, to write the official language in the constitution, comes from the English-only movement in the US, which wants to ban education and services for immigrants in any other language than English. --Michkalas 13:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
That sounds like a likely explanation. In any case, the U.S.-centric insistence on viewing this issue through U.S. glasses and U.S. legal tradition ignoring all other legal traditions is POV and not suitable for Misplaced Pages. (Continental) European legal traditions have as much right to be accepted as the English based "common law". Valentinian 15:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
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