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Here are some reasons why I believe "till" should be used in the page name: Here are some reasons why I believe "till" should be used in the page name:
* Google: ~12,000 hits for the former phrase and ~30,000 for the latter * Google: ~12,000 hits for the phrase with "'til" and ~30,000 for the phrase with "till" (~11,000 hits with "until" )
* Grammar: According to "The Columbia Guide to Standard American English" (1993), " 'Til is a variant spelling used by those who think (incorrectly) that till is a clipped form. At best it looks old-fashioned and self-conscious. Use till instead." * Grammar: According to "The Columbia Guide to Standard American English" (1993), " 'Til is a variant spelling used by those who think (incorrectly) that till is a clipped form. At best it looks old-fashioned and self-conscious. Use till instead."
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Origination

This term was indeed coined by sportscaster Dan Cook. {{helpme}} I wish to insert part of an internet article with additional information on the subject, but your information on additions state that is not permissible.

I was sure I had seen that "saying" in "Catcher in the Rye" when I read it in the early fifties.

Found substantiation of its use by Salinger on a page entitled "Mr. Gross' Home Page" at a site named Webdreamer

I hope I am not violating a rule by clicking 'Save page' I am entirely new to participating. 

 Thank you

Franmorris 05:34, 10 December 2006 (UTC)=franmorris

It's copyright if you just save copy and paste. If you can reword it, so this not a generic copy, then its allowed. Have a read of WP:Copyright Brian | (Talk) 06:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure it the article is factually correct; at least, this page: claims Cook didn't actually invent the phrase.

Requested move

This template must be substituted. Replace {{Requested move ...}} with {{subst:Requested move ...}}. Here are some reasons why I believe "till" should be used in the page name:

  • Google: ~12,000 hits for the phrase with "'til" and ~30,000 for the phrase with "till" (~11,000 hits with "until" )
  • Grammar: According to "The Columbia Guide to Standard American English" (1993), " 'Til is a variant spelling used by those who think (incorrectly) that till is a clipped form. At best it looks old-fashioned and self-conscious. Use till instead."

Ulmanor 18:31, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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